below them for the same reason (the are under 4' wide).
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George
Medina Jr
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:13 PM
Brad,
Are you a lawyer?
Paul
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org on behalf of Brad
Sent: Fri 2/5/2010 1:02 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Accidental Fusing
Do any contractors have experience with heads fusing 'accidentally'?
Per section 1509.2 of the 2006 IBC, a penthouse or rooftop enclosure can
be up to 1/3 of the area of the roof. Over that and it is a floor.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun
Bill,
What section prohibits the placement of risers on exterior walls?
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bill
Brooks
Sent: Friday, October 09
Virginia adopts the IBC with some amendments, but there is no zero sq.
ft. policy.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent
Any single-hydrant test is questionable to begin with, but if two tests
are done they should yield identical graphs. Pitot pressures of less
than 10 psi are generally unacceptable.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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From: sprinklerforum-boun
We often hire a local architect to assist in code evaluations to ensure
local-code compliance. I do have the fire code of Taiwan if anyone
speaks Mandarin.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
Insulation on a pipe with non-flowing water is pointless (except for
temporary exposures to low temperatures). Insulation can only slow the
transmission of heat from the pipe, it does nothing to produce heat.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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From
What you have described is a room, and just like every other room in a
sprinkered building it must also be sprinklered. That fact that it is
cold in there is irrelevant.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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It depends upon the distance between buildings and the percent of open
wall space under the roof.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Karen
area for the system.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Karen
Purvis
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:05 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
One last thing to keep in mind is that some water companies demand
separate services if they are considered separate buildings; that
supersedes the requirements of NFPA 13.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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From: sprinklerforum-boun
On F-Troop, FIRE WATER was a beverage. :)
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:54 PM
was littered with
statements-of-the-obvious that have nothing to do with deficiencies in
your design like: comply with NFPA 13, follow the obstruction rules,
take an umbrella if its raining... and all of the other fluff and filler
they use to make their reviews appear extensive.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life
I would suggest mechanical-joint cement-lined ductile iron, but I do not
know how you are going to drain it short of putting in a pit.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun
I agree that it would be a waste to simply dispose of perfectly good
sprinklers, and I personally would have no problem with someone reusing
them for such an application.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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Yes, I have heard it many times here in Virginia, and always find it amusing.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
bill.bro...@brooksfpe.com
engineer or the plumbing engineer showing their
detailed designs. I would like to see equal treatment; the HVAC
engineers should show a hatch pattern on the floor plan with a note that
says deign ductwork to provide a comfortable environment..
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
Very well said John. This is exactly the approach that we take; we look
at the building or project holistically and our fire protection
engineers direct the architect, mechanical, electrical, structural,
telecom, etc. to ensure coordination and compliance.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety
We have 5 registered FPEs (not turd-herders pretending to be FPEs) and 5
EITs who will get registered as they become eligible. Most of our
design work is done by our designers (two Level IV, and one Level II).
Our engineers are responsible for the ENGINEERING activities.
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life
There is your problem! You have electrical doing fire alarm and
mechanical doing sprinkler!!! You just defined the need for a qualified
FPE to perform those functions (and many more).
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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engineering (his previous responsibility was
designing industrial valves).
Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, January 06
It appears that all jurisdictions that adopt NFPA 101 have, either
intentionally or inadvertently, adopted the requirement for sprinkler
protection in all one- and two-family homes. The only state that comes to mind
as having adopted NFPA 101 is West Virginia; and I do not know if they are
That is really funny! I read it the same way. If you provide party
walls between the townhouses they become single family homes and require
sprinkler protection, but if you don't they are garden apartments and do
not require sprinklers. I would be very interested to know the logic
behind this
Keeping it brief Bill?
Paul Pinigis
Hankins and Anderson
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Subject: Shelf Storage
I don't think that you will find a solenoid valve that is listed as
preaction valve, but the engineer of record should be able to point you
to one if it exists and was the basis of his design. Preaction valves
do have solenoid valves in them, but the solenoid is not usually listed
for the purpose
Rick,
I agree with you, you no longer have a noncombustible concealed space
above the ceiling. When we see architects attempt this at the design
stage we usually steer them away from the cloud ceiling; when we cannot,
we sprinkler above and below the ceiling (obstruction).
Paul J. Pinigis,
Most carpeting meets the definition of non-combustible, but I would
suggest checking the manufacturers cut sheet to verify.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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I would suggest redoing the flow test and using a playpipe for better
accuracy. If the first test was done with an open hydrant butt and a
factor or 0.9, you may find that the estimate was too conservative.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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From:
I just re-read your original question. If I read it correctly, you
indicate that your demand point is below the curve, but the flow
measured during the test was less than the demand flow of your system.
As long as you are below the curve you are fine. The amount of flow at
the time of the
Please direct your questions about this installation to the engineer of record,
Eric Shelton, P.E.
Thank you,
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
Hankins and Anderson
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Sent: Thu 7/24/2008 10:51 AM
To:
Nope, if you have a building that is not sprinklered in accordance with
NFPA 13 (and you don't because there are unsprinklered areas beyond
those that are allowed to be unsprinklered by NFPA 13) you have an
unsprinklered building.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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How about putting some indelible orange ink in the line so that the next
moron who opens the sprinkler becomes an oompa loompa?
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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But, ductile iron IS ferrous pipe!
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Wisneski
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:21 AM
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Subject: RE: Backflow device
As the story was told to me, this dates back to the first iron-framed
buildings with brick exterior walls. The buildings were generally
walk-ups (pre-elevator days) so they were up to four stories tall. The
problem was that the iron would expand in a fire and push outward on the
walls until the
If the closure of those valves will impair the operation of the system
(which I believe they will) they need to be monitored.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Bismarck
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Look at the cut sheet on the BFP. Some BFPs require a significant
amount of pressure to open at very low flows. For example, an 12 Ames
2000SS requires almost 6 psi to operate at very low flow so it can sit
there all day with an upstream pressure nearly 6 psi higher than the
system side
was flown.
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Subject: RE: Change in static pressure
Look at the cut sheet on the BFP. Some BFPs require a significant
Class III, ordinary combustibles. See chapter 14 of the 2007 NFPA 13
for design density curves.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Why?
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Fuel Tank Rooms
NFPA 13 - 2007
I would try
I would agree with OH2 (or even OH1). It is a combustible liquid in a
closed system.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Elevation still affects the pressure in a closed system. If the water
is static in a pressurized system the pressure is the same throughout
the system only at a constant elevation.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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8.5.5.3.2 Sprinklers shall not be required under obstructions that are
not fixed in place such as conference tables.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Don't you just love it when the letter of the code works in your favor.
I really don't think that this is what the NFPA 13 committee had in mind
when they developed that section.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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1. No, that is the responsibility of the engineer and the project design
team.
2. Yep, that is a clear change order.
3. Check your contract for this one. He most likely has to pay for work
done and materials fabricated.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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We have found that a diesel pump alone is more cost effective than an
electric with a gen set.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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important person?
So why is it that we're always wondering why we have so many idiot
clients ... ?? Oh, never mind. :o)
Steve Leyton
Protection Design Consulting
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It looks that way. But WHY?
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:06 AM
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Subject: RE: MIC Testing
There is a forensic metallurgist in Northern Virginia that I have used a
few times. I am looking
There is a forensic metallurgist in Northern Virginia that I have used a
few times. I am looking for his card, but no luck yet.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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I have done this several times. It is analogous to single pump house
feeding a campus, but you happen to have the pump in one of the
protected buildings instead. Just as with a pump house, you assume a
single fire condition.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Maybe we can get the Union and the class-action lawyer listed on the
State Department's list of terrorist organizations. It sounds like
their tactics are awfully similar to those of other extremists.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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If the doors are open at the time of your visit, I think it is safe to
assume that they will be propped open at other times as well (unless of
course they were temporarily propped open to move equipment in or out).
Merry Christmas everyone!
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
I am not sure if I understand your question completely, but here is my attempt
at an answer. The remote area is the actual physical area and not the
hydraulic area. For example, consider a 22'x22' room with four sprinklers on
14' centers, the actual physical area is 484 sq. feet, but the
That is going to be in the building code. If you are using the IBC, the
height of the building dictates the necessity of standpipes.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Yes, you must correct for elevation.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Williams - FPDC
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:52 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Flow test
Yes, I got a copy of his report from the 1970s. The current cost, with
inflation, is actually $1.71 per square foot, but he took credit for
reducing the amount of fireproofing on the structure as a reduction in
the cost of his system. He provided no details to show a difference
between his
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Pinigis
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:57 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Dick Patton
Yes, I got a copy of his report from the 1970s. The current cost, with
inflation, is actually $1.71 per square foot, but he took credit for
reducing
I reviewed some of his writings, and he has an obvious bias against just
about everything.except heat detectors. I wonder if he is one of
those guys who sells the wind-up heat detectors?
Most of his statistics appear to be unfounded, and unsubstantiated. He
is also part of an organization
I just got a return email from Mr. Patton. He is going to send me a copy of
his report on the 35 cent design. I will disseminate what I learn from it to
the forum in a couple of weeks. I am imagining thousands of water balloons
tied to the ceiling, but I think the labor for that might exceed
I assume that these systems are not CPVC since CPVC is incompatible with
most antifreeze.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Charles
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Pressure is pressure, but do you really want to test the integrity of
plastic fittings with a compressible gas? A failure could produce a
most interesting rocket from a piece of pipe. If you must use a gas,
why nitrogen, why not compressed air (not suggesting that either is a
good idea)?
Paul
According to this approach, my office is an H occupancy. There is not
separation of my office from the rest of the spaces on this floor and we
have hundreds of chairs and several couches. I do believe that we have
more than 250 pounds of polyurethane foam in the fire area. Now I am
scared, I
That depends upon the source of that information that he has
interpreted. His property and casualty insurer (FM, IRI, etc.) may have
emphasized the property protection aspects of an NFPA 13 system since
they do not insure human life.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
We have an AHJ here who has been elevated to deity status by every
spineless architect, engineer, and owner that bends to his every whim
and wish. He is generally very knowledgeable, but not always correct,
and does not appreciate having his knowledge questioned. He refused to
even look at a
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Pinigis
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:21 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Interpretation of nfpa 13, 8.1.1(1)
If there is nothing
The client paid for the design, but not the cost of producing multiple
sets of drawings to be sent out to bidders. The small fee that is
charged is not for the design, but for the paper output.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Subject: RE: Corps of Engineers Grv'd Cplg Spec
The client paid for the design, but not the cost of producing multiple
sets of drawings to be sent out
Why?
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Subject: 10psi Saftey Factor
IDOD is just a high-quality galvanized pipe that has a nice alloy layer
of zinc and steel on the surface because the pipe is heated to the same
temperature as the zinc bath before it is dipped. There is no flaking
of the zinc coating that you get when you roll grove lower quality
pipe (e.g. stuff
IDOD is the product name for a galvanized pipe product. The IDOD came
from Inside Diameter, Outside Diameter since both surfaces are
galvanized.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Dan,
Is this a dry pipe or pre-action system?
Did the pipe happen to be made in China?
Was there any testing for the presence of the microbes associated with
MIC?
What type of sprinklers were these?
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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From: [EMAIL
, 2007 10:44 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Sprinkler Success Story
This is a standard wet type system.
Dan Arbel
Tel: 972-4-8243337
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Yes, unless you put a drain valve on the end of each branch line to
facilitate drainage of each line individually. Could be expensive.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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What would be your justification for not protecting that room? I can
not find anything that would permit omission of sprinklers.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Purvis
Sent:
-246-0164
fax 865-246-1084
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Pinigis
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 2:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Steam Room
What would be your justification for not protecting that room? I can
Biodiesel is vegetable oil, and likely a Class IIIB combustible liquid. You
should question the classification considering that the flash point of
vegetable oil is very high. The following is from an FM document: The closed
cup flash point of the tested vegetable oil was 450°F (232°C)
Even
Ding.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Schmid
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:08 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Test
Ray Schmid, P.E.
Principal
Koffel
In my 1983 edition the requirement is listed and there is a bar next to
the section indicating that it was either new or changed. But, there
are other references to the check valve that don't indicate changes, so
the requirement definitely predates 1983.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety
(1) the presence of the gypsum board does not change the construction to
non-combustible.
(2) good question, that one is not clear to me. My initial response
would be yes, but the requirement is vague.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Are you referring to the Viking Firecycle system? If so, they seem to
be most useful on projects with nervous electrical engineers. I have
proposed them on data center projects just to get electrical engineers
to stop hyperventilating at the thought of having a sprinkler system
discharge in
It is an expanded plastic, but you would need to know what materials are
used to be any more specific.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Steven D. (CSFD)
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007
Check your math, but first convert 14 to 1.167'.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:40 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Pockets or just
Thurston
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:57 AM
To: Paul Pinigis
Subject: Re[2]: Pockets or just plain Obstructions
Hello Paul,
Got my coffee and construction calculator working now and it looks
like 113.5556 cubic feet
Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 8:44:52 AM, you wrote:
Check your math, but first
a round of golf below 85 on Saturday. Methinks
Shakespeare is
taken out of context too often; I wouldn't be here otherwise.
glc
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I would suggest storing the margarine with huge amounts of popping corn.
It may not control the fire, but it would be mighty tasty.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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This is America, you can be sued by anyone for anything as long as there
are scum-bag lawyers salivating at the prospect of making a dollar. We
should have followed Shakespeare's advice and killed all of the lawyers.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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If there is city water available, include it too.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Martinez
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:23 AM
To: SprinklerFORUM
Subject: Manual wet standpipes
I should have studied! I failed!
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis
Mack
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:03 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Roof Deck
Ok..this may be
I would suggest that you ask the AHJ for the section that you are
violating. Are you violating Table 8.3.2.5(a)?
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Minkel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007
I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but if you use a
sprinkler with a k-factor of 8.0 then the optimum area per sprinkler (to
minimize pressure demand) is 106 square feet. Maybe a 10 x 10.5 foot
spacing.
The approach that you take will differ depending upon the ALL of the
factors
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Pinigis
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:46 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Selecting Heads For a New System
I don't know if this is what you
If your required density is 0.20 gpm/sq. ft., a 5.6 k-factor will
require 21.55 psi minimum for 130 sq. ft. With the flow data that you
described this may be a waste of precious pressure (say that three times
fast!).
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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pressure)?
Regards,
Brian Harris
First Defense Fire Protection
Design Engineer
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704.948.3506 phone
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Pinigis
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:31 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Selecting Heads For a New System
If you have an ECOH with a k-factor of 14 it could be done. I like that
approach.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety
I would simply consider these to be a plastic commodity to start with.
The fire is going to be initially fuelled by the totes without regard to
what is inside them. The fire is only going to see plastic as the
fire begins to grow.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Don't fool yourself into believing that you can escape liability. His
lawyers will claiming that you are the expert and you knew about their
future plans and still put in an inappropriate system. Everything
changes after a loss.
Paul Pinigis
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of breaking the law, albeit inadvertently.
I feel better now, their family is now safe.
glc
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Pinigis
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:12 PM
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Subject: RE: owners
(Volume of the pipe) / (pumper truck pump rate in GPM) = time in
minutes.
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Duross
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:17 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Fill times
Does anyone know where I
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