Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-14 Thread Barry Levine
Barry Levine *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 8:40 AM *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org *Subject:* Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions Does anyone have a spare 1" male threaded part for the Potter VSR-ST union? I have access to the rest of the switch, but the part needed

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-14 Thread Mike Henke
vine Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:40 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions Does anyone have a spare 1" male threaded part for the Potter VSR-ST union? I have access to the rest of the switch, but the part needed to screw into my

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-14 Thread Barry Levine
Does anyone have a spare 1" male threaded part for the Potter VSR-ST union? I have access to the rest of the switch, but the part needed to screw into my pipe is missing. I'm sure someone has run across a non-operational Potter VSR-ST and is willing to sell me the union piece I am missing,

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-13 Thread Barry Levine
Does anyone have a spare 1" male threaded part for the VSR-ST union? I have access to the rest of the switch, but the part needed to screw into my pipe is missing. On 10/12/2016 10:57 AM, rongreenman . wrote: You'd need a hydro pump to overpressure your system but although your switch is

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Barry Levine
As long as I'm paying for monitoring, I might as well have the switch. I guess I'll just get the delay switch. On 10/12/2016 10:57 AM, rongreenman . wrote: You'd need a hydro pump to overpressure your system but although your switch is doing what it should as mentioned, that switch does not

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread rongreenman .
You'd need a hydro pump to overpressure your system but although your switch is doing what it should as mentioned, that switch does not have a built in time delay according to earlier reply. Changing it to one with a time delay would solve the problem. But why not just disconnect it. The is no

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Barry Levine
I assume attaching a water hose to my test valve wouldn't help, as the pressure from inside and outside would be the same. How do you suggest I add pressure to my system? On 10/12/2016 9:52 AM, Steele, Andrew wrote: I've heard of contractors pumping up sprinkler systems a few lbs over

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Steele, Andrew
I've heard of contractors pumping up sprinkler systems a few lbs over domestic supply, rather than leaving the sprinkler at supply pressure, so there is no subsequent flow alarm after running an Inspectors test. For example, our City water pressure trends up in the very late hours, then down

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Barry Levine
How do you suggest rebuilding this check valve? On 10/12/2016 9:47 AM, Steele, Andrew wrote: My guess is the flow switch is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. Replacing it would give the same result as the working flow switch already there. The check valve would, if working, allow

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Steele, Andrew
My guess is the flow switch is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. Replacing it would give the same result as the working flow switch already there. The check valve would, if working, allow water at a higher pressure into the sprinkler system leg only once and then it would check shut.

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Barry Levine
sday, October 12, 2016 9:26 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org <javascript:;> Subject: Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions I'm not on municipal water. I'm on a well, but when my 2HP pressure pump kicks in, it does build pressure rapidly. I had to repl

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread rongreenman .
um [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf > Of Barry Levine > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:26 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org <javascript:;> > Subject: Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions >

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Mike Henke
- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Barry Levine Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:26 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions I'm not on municipal water. I'm on a well, but when my

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Ed Vining
Mike is right. However the problem relates to the draining and refill, so something has changed. It may be as simple as a check valve that was holding previously, but is not now. A possible solution would be to put a time delay relay between the VS-SP and the bell. Just a few seconds delay

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Barry Levine
I'm not on municipal water. I'm on a well, but when my 2HP pressure pump kicks in, it does build pressure rapidly. I had to replace all the sprinklers early on, due to a recall, so that probably eliminated any air pockets... until this latest total drain. I'm beginning to believe the only

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Mike Henke
Barry, The unwanted waterflow alarms are caused by the fact that the VS-SP does not have a retard and you are getting water surges because you are connected to a municipal water supply and have some air pockets in the sprinkler system. They are called unwanted alarms, not false alarms. The

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Phillips
Open the system drain which is hopefully at the far end of the system while you fill to get air out Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On Oct 12, 2016 8:38 AM, "Steele, Andrew" wrote: Check valve failure, so that the sprinkler leg is no longer isolated?

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Barry Levine
The check valve prevents water from coming back down and entering the home system, not the other way around, but I'm open to exploring any options. Any suggestions on how to check and repair this? I'm not sure if the picture was attached, as I can't see it here, so I'll give a link to

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-12 Thread Steele, Andrew
Check valve failure, so that the sprinkler leg is no longer isolated? -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Barry Levine Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:01 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org