Re: [Ubuntu Karmic Beta] Java + SeaMonkey 2.x

[Hartmut Figge]

NoOp:
>On 10/12/2009 01:06 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> I'm using /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins instead of ~/.mozilla/plugins
>
>Are you running 32bit or 64bit?

32. In old days i had used ~/.mozilla/plugins and switched probably with
SM 1.5. Too long ago to remember the reason.

Hartmut
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Re: [Ubuntu Karmic Beta] Java + SeaMonkey 2.x

[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut Figge:
>NoOp:

>>Are you running 32bit or 64bit?
>
>32. In old days i had used ~/.mozilla/plugins and switched probably with
>SM 1.5. Too long ago to remember the reason.

Well, now i see that you are writing about a special distribution. I'm
good with failing to notice something. :)

On my old machine running an ancient Debian/Sid there is simply a
symlink. /home/hafi/.mozilla/plugins -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

[Alex Beauroy]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Alex Beauroy wrote:

Is this the Seamonkey that will allow Lightning for calendar???


Yes, but right now you need to use a nightly version of Lightning or 
wait for their upcoming beta.


Robert Kaiser

Wonderful!!!
I'll have a good day then
Best Regards
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Re: mailbox locations

[Martin Freitag]

Charlie Bauman schrieb:

Where does the SeaMonkey mail client store email messages / boxes?  MAC
OSX Mail creates subdirectories for each mail account (I have 5) then
the mailboxes; inbox.mbox, outbox.mbox etc. Is there some documentation
on this someplace, as well as importing OSX MAIL mbox files?

Thank you in advance whomever can assist



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Re: Does SeaMonkey cache on SSL/secured connections?

[Martin Freitag]

Ant schrieb:

On 10/12/2009 3:48 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed:


I noticed my SeaMonkeys v1.1.18 don't seem to cache when the
connection is secured (SSL)? Is this normal for security reasons?

Yes.



Ah thanks. Do all other Web broswers beside Mozilla's do this by design?


IE caches them by default. Can be disabled under
Internet Options->Advanced->Security->Do not save encrypted pages to
disk.
Dunno about Opera right now...


Is it possible to purge secured caches after logging off the secured Web
site? Or do I have to purge all of my caches?


You would need to empty the whole cache in all browsers I know.
I wouldn't recommend caching SSL-sites without having a good reason to 
do so, then this problem doesn't exist.

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Re: SM2.0 RC1 - Suddenly Downloads have an NTFS stream?? (like IE)

[Martin Freitag]

NoOp schrieb:

On 10/12/2009 04:14 PM, Martin Freitag wrote:

Jens Hatlak schrieb:




SeaMonkey 2.0 uses the same download backend as Firefox 3.5.


I'm afraid I don't get the point even after reading
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504804
Can someone summarize that in easy words? What are they planning to do
now concerning the zone-identifier? What kind of OS setting are going to
be "respected"? And will there be a GUI for configuration?
I don't get it and that thing is already resolved fixed.
Thanks

Martin


Nor do I.

@Gerry: what version of Windows? I have tested on both Win2KPro and
WinXPPro and cannot seem to replicate. Test file used:





This annoying feature with the zone identifier is not existing in Win2k 
afaik. The story began with WinXP and Win2k3 Server if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ron Hunter wrote:

I use google maps on two different computers, and there is never a 
problem with either the + or the -.  Maybe you need to look at your 
local settings.  Perhaps something is getting in the way of the 
application.


It must be a common setting, because lots of people are affected, 
including me.


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Re: Post URL Updated Lightning SM 2 & Thunderbird 2 and 3

[INFO WG]

RE:  Re: Post URL Updated Lightning SM 2 & Thunderbird 2 and 3

It might be useful to post the Nightly Downloads URL for obtaining the updated 
Lightning "Mozilla PIM" add-on...

So various users can test it with not only SM 2 RC and above, but also assist 
those of us that use Lightning in Thunderbird (for now!) can make sure that the 
updated Lightning still (hopefully) works with TBird 2 and 3 as well.

Joe

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>> 
 Wow, today I have no more lags and pauses. I didn't change anything 
 on my computer. Weird!!
>>>
>>> Do you have "browser.chrome.load_toolbar_icons" set to 2?
>> 
>> Currently it is zero (0). Don't know if it was 2 when I was having 
>> problems.
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Re: Does SeaMonkey cache on SSL/secured connections?

[Ant]

On 10/13/2009 2:57 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed:


Is it possible to purge secured caches after logging off the secured Web
site? Or do I have to purge all of my caches?


You would need to empty the whole cache in all browsers I know.
I wouldn't recommend caching SSL-sites without having a good reason to 
do so, then this problem doesn't exist.

regards


Thanks. I just find it slower without caching when I am using secured 
Web sites, but then I don't want to keep the cached datas, from secured 
sites, after I log out.

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Re: online banking app not working with RC1

[Bob Fleischer]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

The online banking application I use works in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 and in
Firefox 3.5, but doesn't work (at least not the "bill payer" page) in
2.0 RC1 (it didn't work in the betas either, but I thought I saw a
report from somebody else that sounded like the same thing, but
probably a different site, so I didn't report it).


Same here.



Somebody else trying the page might be tricky since one needs to have
an account and login to see these pages.

This site is probably used by more than just my credit union.


Actually, no. Much of it is custom built for "our" credit union.



The first page displayed by this app for me works and displays URL
https://www.dcu.org/onlineserv/HB/HomeBanking.cgi

If I choose the "bill Payer" button, which displays URL
https://www.dcu.org/onlineserv/HB/SingleSignon.cgi?tpvRef=TPV_CFBP&AUTO_LOAD=TRUE&primaryButton=BILL_PAYER
, I do not get the bill player page, but something else.


Billpayer is actually run from another server, so it probably is not
going to support newer browers.



If I open the link in a new tab or window, it displays the correct
page and is functional (so I can do my banking that way). That page
displays URL
https://cfbillpay41.digitalinsight.com/cw411/wps?rq=ov&sp=1703&osn=&oss=b24de1f52bccbbd9


Bob


The point is that this site works in both the latest Firefox (3.5.x) and 
the latest V1 Seamonkey (1.1.18), but doesn't work in RC1 (or the 
betas), and changing the User Agent string doesn't change things.


Bob
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Reordering mail accounts?

[Thomas Peters]

Hi,

is there any way to reorder mail accounts in SeaMonkey? I'd like to have 
the ones I use frequently displayed at the top.


Cheers
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Re: mailbox locations

[Charlie Bauman]

thank you

Martin Freitag wrote:

Charlie Bauman schrieb:

Where does the SeaMonkey mail client store email messages / boxes?  MAC
OSX Mail creates subdirectories for each mail account (I have 5) then
the mailboxes; inbox.mbox, outbox.mbox etc. Is there some documentation
on this someplace, as well as importing OSX MAIL mbox files?

Thank you in advance whomever can assist



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Re: Reordering mail accounts?

[Martin Freitag]

Thomas Peters schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> is there any way to reorder mail accounts in SeaMonkey? I'd like to have
> the ones I use frequently displayed at the top.
In the Mail&NewsgroupAccount-Preferences you can select an account and
tell SM to make that account the default one. The default one will be on
the top afaik. (that way it should be possible to re-order by repeating
this step by inverting your importance list while doing so)

Otherweise you will need to edit the file prefs.js in your
seamonkey-profile-directory at the following line I think
user_pref("mail.accountmanager.accounts",
"account1,account2,account3,account5");
Help to locate your pfile etc. can be found here:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
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Re: "Copy Complete" window - Random

[Bob Fleischer]

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I send E-Mail, sometimes I get a 'Copy Complete' window popping up
and sometimes not...

Every once in a while, the window has the active bar sweeping across
the
window and the window has to be canceled or it sits there sweeping away
forever - unless canceled.

Why does this happen?

What is different than the normal thing where I don't see it ?

DoctorBill


I guess this "problem (?)" is now a non-issue since I will soon be
loading
up SM 2.0

Think I will wait maybe a week or so to be sure all the "Bugs" are
removed.



I have the same problem  hanging pop-up when the mail has been
sent. Why
are you convinced that this bug is solved in SM 2.0 ?



It hasn't been, through the 2.0 RC1 that I downloaded. I've been
wondering if I
changed the settings NOT to save a copy for Sent messages, would that
problem go
away. I guess if this doesn't get fixed in the 2.0 final version I'll
get around to
testing it. ;)
bj




I saw this window (just once) in RC1 also.

Bob
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Re: Reordering mail accounts?

[Thomas Peters]

On 2009-10-13 17:49, Martin Freitag wrote:

user_pref("mail.accountmanager.accounts",
"account1,account2,account3,account5");


That's it. Thanks a lot!

Cheers
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Re: online banking app not working with RC1

[Robert Kaiser]

Bob Fleischer wrote:

The point is that this site works in both the latest Firefox (3.5.x) and
the latest V1 Seamonkey (1.1.18), but doesn't work in RC1 (or the
betas), and changing the User Agent string doesn't change things.


Which is _very_ strange as we ship exactly the same browser core (Gecko) 
as Firefox 3.5.4 - could you test with their candidate for that release?

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.5.4-candidates/build1/

Robert Kaiser
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Re: Unsubscribe me from Lists.mozilla.org!

[John Boyle]

Ray_Net wrote:
> gNeandr wrote:
>> Don't only trust in God .. or other's to solve your situation.
>>
>> Here you are in the fine position to help yourself:
>>
>> just open the account settings and delete the account for
>> 'news.mozilla.com' to delete all of it ...
>> or to un-subscribe a specific newsgroup, on the account listing use
>> the context menu for that group and just "un-subscribe" that single one.
>>
>> Hope it helps - The Lord bless thee and keep thee
>>
>>  [12.10.2009 02:59]»John Boyle« wrote:
>>> -- Old Sarge-John Boyle IN GOD WE TRUST!
>>
> 
> Are you sure about your suggestion, he will not unsubscibe something
> from 'news.mozilla.com' but from 'lists.mozilla.org'
> - This looks like he don't use a newsreader for reading the posts, but
> the posts goes into in mailreader.
This "unsubscribe" was in error, anyway! Sorry!
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Re: online banking app not working with RC1

[Bob Fleischer]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

The point is that this site works in both the latest Firefox (3.5.x) and
the latest V1 Seamonkey (1.1.18), but doesn't work in RC1 (or the
betas), and changing the User Agent string doesn't change things.


Which is _very_ strange as we ship exactly the same browser core (Gecko)
as Firefox 3.5.4 - could you test with their candidate for that release?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.5.4-candidates/build1/


Robert Kaiser


I'm not quite ready to say "nevermind", because I am still seeing this 
same behavior (and same difference from Firefox 3.5) on my production 
system, but on a "virgin" Windows 7 RTM installing the latest Seamonkey 
RC1 and the Firefox 3.5.4 link above -- both work fine from my banking 
site, no apparent problems or differences.


So there is something peculiar about my main, everyday system that 
breaks this app on RC1.  How would I go about investigating this.


Rick, did you say you saw the same problem?

Bob
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Re: online banking app not working with RC1

[Mark Hansen]

On 10/13/09 09:54, Bob Fleischer wrote:
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> Bob Fleischer wrote:
>>> The point is that this site works in both the latest Firefox (3.5.x) and
>>> the latest V1 Seamonkey (1.1.18), but doesn't work in RC1 (or the
>>> betas), and changing the User Agent string doesn't change things.
>>
>> Which is _very_ strange as we ship exactly the same browser core (Gecko)
>> as Firefox 3.5.4 - could you test with their candidate for that release?
>> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.5.4-candidates/build1/
>>
>>
>> Robert Kaiser
> 
> I'm not quite ready to say "nevermind", because I am still seeing this 
> same behavior (and same difference from Firefox 3.5) on my production 
> system, but on a "virgin" Windows 7 RTM installing the latest Seamonkey 
> RC1 and the Firefox 3.5.4 link above -- both work fine from my banking 
> site, no apparent problems or differences.
> 
> So there is something peculiar about my main, everyday system that 
> breaks this app on RC1.  How would I go about investigating this.

Did you already try with a freshly-created profile?

> 
> Rick, did you say you saw the same problem?
> 
> Bob
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Re: "Copy Complete" window - Random

[chicagofan]

Bob Fleischer wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I send E-Mail, sometimes I get a 'Copy Complete' window popping
 up and sometimes not...

Every once in a while, the window has the active bar sweeping across
the window and the window has to be canceled or it sits there
sweeping away forever - unless canceled.

Why does this happen?

What is different than the normal thing where I don't see it ?

DoctorBill


I guess this "problem (?)" is now a non-issue since I will soon be
loading up SM 2.0

Think I will wait maybe a week or so to be sure all the "Bugs" are
removed.



I have the same problem  hanging pop-up when the mail has been sent.
 Why are you convinced that this bug is solved in SM 2.0 ?



It hasn't been, through the 2.0 RC1 that I downloaded. I've been wondering
 if I changed the settings NOT to save a copy for Sent messages, would
that problem go away. I guess if this doesn't get fixed in the 2.0 final
version I'll get around to testing it. ;) bj




I saw this window (just once) in RC1 also.

Bob



It's happened several times with me, which is normal for previous versions.  It
seems to be a timing thing.  If the news server doesn't respond quickly, this
is where I see more of these hang ups,  and eventually have to cancel the
window.  Sometimes the message is sent, sometimes not, I suppose depending
on how soon I canceled out.

It's puzzling... maybe SM should disconnect sooner?  Is there a setting for
attempts to connect?
bj

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Re: SM2.0 RC1 - Suddenly Downloads have an NTFS stream?? (like IE)

[Jens Hatlak]

On 10/13/2009 1:14 AM Martin Freitag wrote:

Jens Hatlak schrieb:

On 10/12/2009 10:37 PM Gerry Hickman wrote:

If you've ever had the mis-fortune to use Microsoft IE on windows,
you'll notice every file you download is initially "blocked". It
places a second NTFS stream on the file. I'd been using SeaMonkey 2.0b
and everything was OK. Today I've installed RC1 and now my downloads
are blocked - just like in IE.




SeaMonkey 2.0 uses the same download backend as Firefox 3.5.


I'm afraid I don't get the point even after reading
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504804


Bug 504804 only landed on trunk (before mozilla1.9.2 branched, so it's 
fixed there, too). SM 2.0 uses the mozilla1.9.1 branch and that fix 
probably won't land there (read comments 24-26).


Hints:
- Version says Trunk
- Target Milestone says mozilla1.9.2a1
- Keywords does not contain fixed1.9.1

The URL I provided points to bug 499448 comment 3 which describes a 
workaround (adding/setting certain prefs). This is probably all you can 
do for the lifetime of FF 3.5 and SM 2.0.


HTH

Jens

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

[Bob Fleischer]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

A Williams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Oh! mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey appeared twice in the Newsgroups
distribution list.


Yes, apparently I failed to change the second one to a "Followup-to" as
I had intended :(

Robert Kaiser


Hmmm, could that not be considered a bug?


Not sure, but possibly. Can't harm to file it. :)

Robert Kaiser


Well, I found that the visible difference between my production profile 
and the virgin test profile is that I had "allow cookies for the 
originating website only" on the production system (the one that 
failed).  I confirmed that setting this on the virgin system caused that 
site to fail, also.  I confirmed that changing the setting to "allow all 
cookies" fixed my production seamonkey rc1 profile, too.  So, is the 
case closed?


However, just out of curiosity, I uninstalled Seamonkey 2 RC1 from the 
virgin test system and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and found that the 
banking web site works properly with either setting of "allow cookies..."!


Also, why does this setting make a difference between clicking a link to 
open in the same window vs. opening in a separate tab or window (which 
worked in SM 2 RC1 all along)?


So, I'm happy, but I do indeed wonder why this setting makes no 
difference in the website behavior in SM 1.1.18, but obviously does in 
SM 2 RC1.


(I could find no corresponding cookie setting in Firefox, so I couldn't 
try this change in Firefox.)


Bob
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Re: online banking app not working with RC1

[Bob Fleischer]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 10/13/09 09:54, Bob Fleischer wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

The point is that this site works in both the latest Firefox (3.5.x) and
the latest V1 Seamonkey (1.1.18), but doesn't work in RC1 (or the
betas), and changing the User Agent string doesn't change things.


Which is _very_ strange as we ship exactly the same browser core (Gecko)
as Firefox 3.5.4 - could you test with their candidate for that release?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.5.4-candidates/build1/


Robert Kaiser


I'm not quite ready to say "nevermind", because I am still seeing this
same behavior (and same difference from Firefox 3.5) on my production
system, but on a "virgin" Windows 7 RTM installing the latest Seamonkey
RC1 and the Firefox 3.5.4 link above -- both work fine from my banking
site, no apparent problems or differences.

So there is something peculiar about my main, everyday system that
breaks this app on RC1.  How would I go about investigating this.


Did you already try with a freshly-created profile?



Rick, did you say you saw the same problem?

Bob


[Sorry that I first posted this reply to the wrong message.]

Well, I found that the visible difference between my production profile 
and the virgin test profile is that I had "allow cookies for the 
originating website only" on the production system (the one that 
failed).  I confirmed that setting this on the virgin system caused that 
site to fail, also.  I confirmed that changing the setting to "allow all 
cookies" fixed my production seamonkey rc1 profile, too.  So, is the 
case closed?


However, just out of curiosity, I uninstalled Seamonkey 2 RC1 from the 
virgin test system and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and found that the 
banking web site works properly with either setting of "allow cookies..."!


Also, why does this setting make a difference between clicking a link to 
open in the same window vs. opening in a separate tab or window (which 
worked in SM 2 RC1 all along)?


So, I'm happy, but I do indeed wonder why this setting makes no 
difference in the website behavior in SM 1.1.18, but obviously does in 
SM 2 RC1.


(I could find no corresponding cookie setting in Firefox, so I couldn't 
try this change in Firefox.)


Bob
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Re: online banking app not working with RC1

[Bob Fleischer]

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 10/13/09 09:54, Bob Fleischer wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

The point is that this site works in both the latest Firefox
(3.5.x) and
the latest V1 Seamonkey (1.1.18), but doesn't work in RC1 (or the
betas), and changing the User Agent string doesn't change things.


Which is _very_ strange as we ship exactly the same browser core
(Gecko)
as Firefox 3.5.4 - could you test with their candidate for that
release?
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.5.4-candidates/build1/



Robert Kaiser


I'm not quite ready to say "nevermind", because I am still seeing this
same behavior (and same difference from Firefox 3.5) on my production
system, but on a "virgin" Windows 7 RTM installing the latest Seamonkey
RC1 and the Firefox 3.5.4 link above -- both work fine from my banking
site, no apparent problems or differences.

So there is something peculiar about my main, everyday system that
breaks this app on RC1. How would I go about investigating this.


Did you already try with a freshly-created profile?



Rick, did you say you saw the same problem?

Bob


[Sorry that I first posted this reply to the wrong message.]

Well, I found that the visible difference between my production profile
and the virgin test profile is that I had "allow cookies for the
originating website only" on the production system (the one that
failed). I confirmed that setting this on the virgin system caused that
site to fail, also. I confirmed that changing the setting to "allow all
cookies" fixed my production seamonkey rc1 profile, too. So, is the case
closed?

However, just out of curiosity, I uninstalled Seamonkey 2 RC1 from the
virgin test system and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and found that the
banking web site works properly with either setting of "allow cookies..."!

Also, why does this setting make a difference between clicking a link to
open in the same window vs. opening in a separate tab or window (which
worked in SM 2 RC1 all along)?

So, I'm happy, but I do indeed wonder why this setting makes no
difference in the website behavior in SM 1.1.18, but obviously does in
SM 2 RC1.

(I could find no corresponding cookie setting in Firefox, so I couldn't
try this change in Firefox.)

Bob


I finally figured out how to get Firefox to "allow cookies for the 
originating website only" (bizarre user interface!) and setting that 
setting for Firefox 3.5.4 causes the same problem with the banking web 
site -- but I can confirm this does NOT happen with Seamonkey 1.1.18. 
Has the definition of "allow cookies for the originating website only" 
changed since 1.1?


Bob
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Re: Reordering mail accounts?

[John Doue]

Martin Freitag wrote:

Thomas Peters schrieb:

Hi,

is there any way to reorder mail accounts in SeaMonkey? I'd like to have
the ones I use frequently displayed at the top.

In the Mail&NewsgroupAccount-Preferences you can select an account and
tell SM to make that account the default one. The default one will be on
the top afaik. (that way it should be possible to re-order by repeating
this step by inverting your importance list while doing so)

Otherweise you will need to edit the file prefs.js in your
seamonkey-profile-directory at the following line I think
user_pref("mail.accountmanager.accounts",
"account1,account2,account3,account5");
Help to locate your pfile etc. can be found here:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
regards

Martin


Yes, but much more simply by using the Folderpane addon:
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/

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Export Mailing List?

[Cecil Bankston]

Is there any practical way to export the contents of a SeaMonkey mailing 
list without including all the other addresses in the address book that 
are not in the mailing list?

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Re: SM2.0 RC1 Automatic Updates?

[Gerry Hickman]

Martin Freitag wrote:


It runs without a classic installer. It performs all file copy
operations etc. after a single click (or two). Afterwards you just have
to confirm the restart of SM afaik.


Thanks. I don't know how it happened, but somehow it updated itself from 
SM2.0 beta to SM2.0 RC1. I'd been working in another program, I noticed 
the little Seamonkey pop-up in the bottom right of the screen saying an 
update was available, but I don't remember clicking on any confirmation 
dialog... When I went to use SM the next day there was a progress bar, 
then it made me confirm SM is the default client, then it was suddenly 
on 2.0 RC1!


From your answers, I'm guessing fully automatic update is impossible 
with SM, so maybe I'd pressed a key which dismissed a confirmation dialog.


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Re: SM2.0 RC1 - Suddenly Downloads have an NTFS stream?? (like IE)

[Gerry Hickman]

NoOp wrote:


@Gerry: what version of Windows? I have tested on both Win2KPro and
WinXPPro and cannot seem to replicate. Test file used:




I'm on Vista SP2, but it's so much the o/s version. I think it all 
depends on your version of the IE browser. If you have version 7 or 8, 
you will probably notice the problem. After downloading a file, 
right-click the file, if you are affected, you'll see an "unblock" button.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

[Robert Kaiser]

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Well, I found that the visible difference between my production profile
and the virgin test profile is that I had "allow cookies for the
originating website only" on the production system (the one that
failed). I confirmed that setting this on the virgin system caused that
site to fail, also. I confirmed that changing the setting to "allow all
cookies" fixed my production seamonkey rc1 profile, too. So, is the case
closed?


Probably, though that site relying on what at least looks like 
third-party cookies seems bad, it's completely their issue if they do so.




However, just out of curiosity, I uninstalled Seamonkey 2 RC1 from the
virgin test system and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and found that the
banking web site works properly with either setting of "allow cookies..."!


Not sure, but we had a number of changes to the cookie subsystem, 
possibly also ones that make it more correct or whatever influences this.



Also, why does this setting make a difference between clicking a link to
open in the same window vs. opening in a separate tab or window (which
worked in SM 2 RC1 all along)?


No idea, you probably need to ask the website designers.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

[NoOp]

On 10/13/2009 01:08 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Bob Fleischer wrote:
>> Well, I found that the visible difference between my production profile
>> and the virgin test profile is that I had "allow cookies for the
>> originating website only" on the production system (the one that
>> failed). I confirmed that setting this on the virgin system caused that
>> site to fail, also. I confirmed that changing the setting to "allow all
>> cookies" fixed my production seamonkey rc1 profile, too. So, is the case
>> closed?
> 
> Probably, though that site relying on what at least looks like 
> third-party cookies seems bad, it's completely their issue if they do so.
> 
> 
>> However, just out of curiosity, I uninstalled Seamonkey 2 RC1 from the
>> virgin test system and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and found that the
>> banking web site works properly with either setting of "allow cookies..."!
> 
> Not sure, but we had a number of changes to the cookie subsystem, 
> possibly also ones that make it more correct or whatever influences this.
> 
>> Also, why does this setting make a difference between clicking a link to
>> open in the same window vs. opening in a separate tab or window (which
>> worked in SM 2 RC1 all along)?
> 
> No idea, you probably need to ask the website designers.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

I wonder if that was part of the 1.1.x cookies issue that Jens pointed
out in the "Disappointed in changes to cookie management SM 1.1.18 vs.
2.0RC1" thread? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349680#c13
where it was determined that the cookie settings weren't quite working
as advertised.

(crossposts removed)

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Re: SM2.0 RC1 - Suddenly Downloads have an NTFS stream?? (like IE)

[NoOp]

On 10/13/2009 12:55 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
> 
>> @Gerry: what version of Windows? I have tested on both Win2KPro and
>> WinXPPro and cannot seem to replicate. Test file used:
>>
>> 
> 
> I'm on Vista SP2, but it's so much the o/s version. I think it all 
> depends on your version of the IE browser. If you have version 7 or 8, 
> you will probably notice the problem. After downloading a file, 
> right-click the file, if you are affected, you'll see an "unblock" button.
> 

Ah. So it's the OS. I don't use IE except when absolutely need for
getting updates.

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Re: Reordering mail accounts?

[horst39]

On 13.10.2009 20:00,  John Doue wrote:

Martin Freitag wrote:

Thomas Peters schrieb:

Hi,

is there any way to reorder mail accounts in SeaMonkey? I'd like to have
the ones I use frequently displayed at the top.

In the Mail&NewsgroupAccount-Preferences you can select an account and
tell SM to make that account the default one. The default one will be on
the top afaik. (that way it should be possible to re-order by repeating
this step by inverting your importance list while doing so)

Otherweise you will need to edit the file prefs.js in your
seamonkey-profile-directory at the following line I think
user_pref("mail.accountmanager.accounts",
"account1,account2,account3,account5");
Help to locate your pfile etc. can be found here:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
regards

Martin


Yes, but much more simply by using the Folderpane addon:
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/


But it doesn't work with SM 1.1.18!
When installing I get the message "install script not found"

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Re: "Copy Complete" window - Random

[Ray_Net]

chicagofan wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I send E-Mail, sometimes I get a 'Copy Complete' window popping
 up and sometimes not...

Every once in a while, the window has the active bar sweeping across
the window and the window has to be canceled or it sits there
sweeping away forever - unless canceled.

Why does this happen?

What is different than the normal thing where I don't see it ?

DoctorBill


I guess this "problem (?)" is now a non-issue since I will soon be
loading up SM 2.0

Think I will wait maybe a week or so to be sure all the "Bugs" are
removed.



I have the same problem  hanging pop-up when the mail has been 
sent.

 Why are you convinced that this bug is solved in SM 2.0 ?



It hasn't been, through the 2.0 RC1 that I downloaded. I've been 
wondering

 if I changed the settings NOT to save a copy for Sent messages, would
that problem go away. I guess if this doesn't get fixed in the 2.0 final
version I'll get around to testing it. ;) bj




I saw this window (just once) in RC1 also.

Bob



It's happened several times with me, which is normal for previous 
versions.  It
seems to be a timing thing.  If the news server doesn't respond quickly, 
this

is where I see more of these hang ups,  and eventually have to cancel the
window.  Sometimes the message is sent, sometimes not, I suppose depending
on how soon I canceled out.

It's puzzling... maybe SM should disconnect sooner?  Is there a setting for
attempts to connect?
bj



You have a good approach ... it's certainly a "timing window" problem.
This kind of problem is not easy to cure, because it's not easy to 
reproduce. And will never corrected in SM due to the politic way of 
managing bugs ... :-) We can close this thread :-)

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Re: Reordering mail accounts?

[Philip Chee]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:31:24 +0200, horst39 wrote:
> On 13.10.2009 20:00,  John Doue wrote:

>> Yes, but much more simply by using the Folderpane addon:
>> http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/
>> 
> But it doesn't work with SM 1.1.18!
> When installing I get the message "install script not found"

Use this version instead:


Phil

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Re: way to permanently increase text size?

[Jim]

Thanks for all the helpful replies--

Jim
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Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

[Russell]

I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In previous SM
releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature as I
prefer to use another email client. 

With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email
component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's asking me to
setup my Seamonkey email service. 

How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I prefer?
I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well.

Thanks

Russell
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Re: Reordering mail accounts?

[John Doue]

Philip Chee wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:31:24 +0200, horst39 wrote:

On 13.10.2009 20:00,  John Doue wrote:



Yes, but much more simply by using the Folderpane addon:
http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/


But it doesn't work with SM 1.1.18!
When installing I get the message "install script not found"


Use this version instead:


Phil



Thanks for giving the link to the OP, I had lost track of the one I used 
to install my own version.


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

[Daniel]

Russell wrote:

I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In previous SM
releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature as I
prefer to use another email client. 


With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email
component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's asking me to
setup my Seamonkey email service. 


How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I prefer?
I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well.

Thanks

Russell


Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a 
mail&news agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's 
inbuilt mail agent.


If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting 
it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how 
you achieved that!!


Daniel
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