From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually, it makes perfect sense to reinvent these things since one of
the whole points of consoles is to keep costs down so that you can make
money on the hardware.
I'm not sure... you have to remember that reinventing stuff costs a lot of
RD dollars. I'm
You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound
card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings?
What the heck is reducing sound card accleration?
Hmmm. I remember a slide bar somewhere about the sound card... maybe it was
some completely different thing.
Does any of the following ring a bell: Neverwinter Nights, Soldier of
Fortune, Deux Ex, Jagged Alliance 2, Descent 3, Heavy Metal FAKK 2, Kohan,
Rune, Railroad Tycoon 2, Sin, Shogo, Tribes 2, etcetc?
How many of these are less then a year and a half plus old?
Consoles never crash? What's
Does any of the following ring a bell: Neverwinter Nights, Soldier of
Fortune, Deux Ex, Jagged Alliance 2, Descent 3, Heavy Metal FAKK 2,
Kohan,
Rune, Railroad Tycoon 2, Sin, Shogo, Tribes 2, etcetc?
How many of these are less then a year and a half plus old?
Well, these are portings of
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound
card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings?
What the heck is reducing sound card accleration?
Hmmm. I remember a slide bar somewhere about the sound card... maybe it was
Jim Leonard wrote:
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound
card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings?
What the heck is reducing sound card accleration?
Hmmm. I remember a slide bar somewhere about the sound
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
At no point did I promote the X-Box as a good console. Come up with
*ANY* other report of a console crashing (NOT x-box).
No, you never promoted xbox, but you said consoles whip all computer
platforms anyway since they never crash (hey, it's right there 11 lines
From: Pedro Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It wasnt' the CD Drive failing. The demo cd's that they sent out were
bad
burns. I have a friend who manages an EB and he said that a whole batch
of
the CD's were bad, causing the problem to be huge. Not a software glitch
(as far as coding).
Wrong.
Karl Kuras wrote:
Well, hate to break it to you, but you chose the worse source in the world
for this one. Gaming Age articles are mostly written by amateurs who get
their rumors off newsgroups. I spoke to the manager of an EB who happens to
be a computer science mager (aka Programmer)
From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Agreed, but even then I have to stress again that the X-Box is the first
console that doesn't fit the traditional mold of console (custom
hardware, bus, and OS; built from the ground up to be a gaming console).
True it doesn't, but I like to think of it as
Karl Kuras wrote:
vs. Capcom 2). Also, lets face it, console games were starting to get
really held down by the lack of things such as harddrives and network cards,
and there is no reason (or financial sense) in reinventing the wheel when
these things already exist.
Actually, it makes
Jim Leonard wrote:
Chris Newman wrote:
What's the story? Is MS abusing its relationship with NBC? Where'd you
hear the
rumors?
Yes, I'm very interested in that. Gates is part snake oil salesman, part
gangster,
and all
opportunist.
Rumor has it that Microsoft offered to 1. ignore existing
I'm not thrilled with everything about Windows; however, as a gamer...I
don't see how you can't think Windows 95 and later made life MUCH better.
Once Win 95 was adopted by game developers, and games were written (well)
under it, gaming became so much easier. I still remember the bad old days
of
EA, MacDonalds, and now Windows... you're scaring me, Hugh! ;)
I'm not thrilled with everything about Windows; however, as a gamer...I
don't see how you can't think Windows 95 and later made life MUCH better.
No, it hasn't. As a gamer, I'd rather have one of the old OSes that
wouldn't crash.
QEMM was better at optimizing memory usage than DOS 6.22. There were several games
that needed
QEMM to run on my machine, because DOS' MemMaker wouldn't cut it.
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
EA, MacDonalds, and now Windows... you're scaring me, Hugh! ;)
I'm not thrilled with everything about
From: Pedro Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Memmaker was not optimal. I could get better results by configuring
config.sys autoexec.bat myself, usually involving, IIRC,
shadowing/unshadowing memory and other interesting tricks.
I remember I used to get more than 600k base memory even with sound
If your game crashes...you have a complaint with the game, not the
operating
system (usually).
Not really. So many games work on machine A,B C, but not in D, but others
only seem to work on C D but not on A B...
Poorly written/tested games will crash (or at least not
work properly) under
Well but that's the point of this string... you had to configure the crap
yourself! I've never had to do any such thing under windows!
You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound
card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings?
In DOS I only had to
It's up to the game developer to test it on different hardware
configurations. The same problem exists with Linux. The problem is that
there is less that 5% the number of systems running Linux (for example) that
Windows. Apple of course doesn't have the problem with proprietary
hardware.
If
Who knows where we would be if Windows never existed? We could be using for
example AmigaOS, which handled multitasking better than most other OSes. Or
MacOS which is even easier to use than Windows. Or Linux, BeOS, BSD, VAX
(god forbid! ;) )
Anyway, Windows has serious issues, and we're now
Pedro Quaresma boldly stated:
I have
never had to reset any of my system configurations (with the exception of
16
bit or 32 bit color... hate when a game won't accept 32bit color... anyone
know what the problem is with that from a coding stand point?)
No idea, but there are programs out there
It's pretty much a given that if Windows never existed we'd all have Apples
right now. MS basically backstabbed Apple and released Windows...otherwise
they would have been on the Apple bandwagon. Commodore and Atari would
never have been able to compete with a solidly entrenched Apple/Microsoft
2) I RARELY crash. I'm using Windows Me.
Worst OS ever :)
Going through normal use
(Outlook, Word, Excel, FrontPage, various shareware utilities, and a bunch
of games) I might have a crash once every couple of weeks. This is
acceptable to me.
This may sound strange for regular Windows
I know I have downloaded one because Pirates! Gold for Windows only works
with 256 colors too... wait, lemme check...
OK, here it is: http://www.berend.com/qres.html
It's calleed QRes and lets you choose a resolution for a specific program
you run. Not sure on which Windows versions it works
From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apple would be #1, DOS would be where Apple is today (Maybe with GEM or
Geoworks as the shell), and Atari/Commodore (sadly) would be where they
are
today.
I don't know if Commodore would be where it is now had it not been for
Windows... granted they were
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
I'm not entirely sure I'd call Gates a gangster or snake-oil salesman --
that's Balmer's job and always has been. :-)
Even before he became CEO? What did he do before?
Biz guy. It's always been his job to wheel and deal.
My only real lament with the rise of
Hugh Falk wrote:
I'm not thrilled with everything about Windows; however, as a gamer...I
don't see how you can't think Windows 95 and later made life MUCH better.
Once Win 95 was adopted by game developers, and games were written (well)
under it, gaming became so much easier. I still
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Memmaker was not optimal. I could get better results by configuring
config.sys autoexec.bat myself, usually involving, IIRC,
shadowing/unshadowing memory and other interesting tricks.
I remember I used to get more than 600k base memory even with sound card
and CD-ROM
Karl Kuras wrote:
never had to reset any of my system configurations (with the exception of 16
bit or 32 bit color... hate when a game won't accept 32bit color... anyone
know what the problem is with that from a coding stand point?) for a windows
program... it just runs.
Laziness or
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
But this wasn't not a DOS vs Windows issue. If Windows had never existed we
would be much better with other stable OSes out there. And we'd still have
games.
Be careful in your advocacy -- Linux has only recently earned the
stable moniker. SVGAlib used to bring your
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
You never had to configure anything in Windows? Reduce a bit your sound
card acceleration? Tweak around with your gfx card settings?
What the heck is reducing sound card accleration?
I only tweak GFX if I'm trying to overclock and get better performance
:)
But to
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Who knows where we would be if Windows never existed? We could be using for
example AmigaOS, which handled multitasking better than most other OSes. Or
At the time, it was the only mainstream multitasking OS so I'm not sure
what you're comparing it with. Hopefully not
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
2) I RARELY crash. I'm using Windows Me.
Worst OS ever :)
Going through normal use
(Outlook, Word, Excel, FrontPage, various shareware utilities, and a bunch
of games) I might have a crash once every couple of weeks. This is
acceptable to me.
This may sound
But the Mac wouldn't have been a failing system with Microsoft as an ally
(instead of competition). The Apple was on its way to being HUGE when it
was undercut by Microsoft. Maybe OS/2 would have had a chance without
Windows though.
Don't get me wrong...I was one of the BIGGEST Commodore and
No...a patch for our PS2 games was never discussed as an option. If
something disastrous were to happen, we would have to recall I'm sure...it
would have been horrible. Our QA effort was tremendous, and it is certainly
possible to create bug free (or acceptable bug-only) games even with today's
From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the late 80's hard drives were common on STs and Amigas (I had two).
They may have been common here in the states, but over in Europe (where the
bulk of Amiga users and games were) barely anyone had them. Most of the
kids I went to high school with had
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
- Dot-matrix printer drivers would simulate higher resolution by
overprinting (printing once, then half a pixel over, then half a pixel
down, then half a pixel down and over) -- could simulate ~300 DPI on a
9-pin dot matrix printer
Sounds very slow. Was it?
--
Lee
Hugh Falk wrote:
By the late 80's hard drives were common on STs and Amigas (I had two). The
problem with games is that the copy protection often kept you from
installing them on a hard drive (on all platforms). That's why code wheels,
page numbers, etc. became so popular. I hated them,
Lee K. Seitz wrote:
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
- Dot-matrix printer drivers would simulate higher resolution by
overprinting (printing once, then half a pixel over, then half a pixel
down, then half a pixel down and over) -- could simulate ~300 DPI on a
9-pin dot matrix printer
Sounds
Chris Newman wrote:
What's the story? Is MS abusing its relationship with NBC? Where'd you hear the
rumors?
Yes, I'm very interested in that. Gates is part snake oil salesman, part gangster,
and all
opportunist.
Rumor has it that Microsoft offered to 1. ignore existing NBC Microsoft
Have you ever seen the great PBS documentary Triumph of the Nerds? Part two of the
three part series deals with the evolution of DOS and the Microsoft/IBM split. It's
probably not news to the participants of this mailing list, but it was neat to see all
the faces of the famous years. Tim
Chris Newman wrote:
Voice on TV: [Person on talk show in sitcom] Sure, Windows XP will make your
computing experience easier
Me Jesus Christ, Bill Gates [Lucifer himself] is on a TV sitcom. And of course
he's plugging Microsoft.
While nobody wants to talk about it, this was the result
What's the story? Is MS abusing its relationship with NBC? Where'd you hear the
rumors?
Yes, I'm very interested in that. Gates is part snake oil salesman, part gangster,
and all
opportunist.
Jim Leonard wrote:
Chris Newman wrote:
Voice on TV: [Person on talk show in sitcom] Sure, Windows
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