Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

Sent from my iPad > On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > > I was also thinking that landuse=retail makes more sense than either mall or > shopping_centre. If you have a big building enclosing lots of shops, you can > tag it building=mall. > > johnw, I understand the distin

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

Pre up: I have worked with him on the soft_lane proposal - results pending. I think his intentions are good and that he just takes the "be bold" part of the wiki too seriously, or the changes he makes are too large. That said, I believe that talking to others is an important part of a Community Pro

Re: [Tagging] RFC Tagging for complex junctions

Yes, I’m aware of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=junction However, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=junction focuses on the tagging style of intersecting roads and proposes to not connect them anymore and so avoid turn restrictions. But h

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-21 18:52 GMT+02:00 fly : > it is a problem > if wrong/undiscussed changes are spread. > while I agree, I'd like to point out that this is not an isolated problem with a single user, it is systematically happening all the time. I believe that the overwhelming majority (if not all) of the

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - (brickkiln)"

On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 02:21 -0700, Megha Shrestha wrote: > We collected the data from field survey. By field survey what do you mean? You can obviously collect data from what you can see, from signs. But my concern is much of this information could be seen as commercially sensitive, where does

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

+10 It is frustrating and I only rarely change the wiki. I always try to be polite and get into contact but only once. If there is no real reaction and only more pages are changed or directly changed after the revert, I would revert them all immediately as it is a problem if wrong/undiscussed cha

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

Well... here's my experience with user Ulamm. He sure has taken away part of the fun it was contributing to this project. I've noticed he made some changes to the use_sidepath wiki. I asked him in a private mail for the reason of the

Re: [Tagging] RFC Tagging for complex junctions

Am 18.10.2014 08:45, schrieb Lukas Sommer: > Hello. > > The combined proposal for complex junctions and complex traffic signal > systems had less support than I hoped (5 of 9 votes). > > Initially, I was thinking it was a good idea to treat these two features > together. However, this was obvious

Re: [Tagging] Truckage company

As Dudley said, "Haulage contractor" is standard British-English for firms (and individuals) who own and operate Heavy Goods Vehicles (over 3.5 t IIRC) to transport a whole range of loads. As others have said logistics is about the whole chain of processes rather than specifically individual mov

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

On 21/10/2014 12:06, Brad Neuhauser wrote: I agree with Matthjis--I don't see much of a clearly defined and widely agreed on difference between the two. Given that, and the small usage of shopping_centre, I agree with should deprecate shopping_centre. Just chipping in to say that 'mall' is s

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

2014-10-21 15:39 GMT+02:00 Jerry Clough - OSM : > >- Use of the shop tag is inherently problematic. These are not shops >but retail areas. At the moment whenever I do any kind of retail analytical >query I have to do AND NOT IN (shop='mall'). I would prefer to use >landuse=retail w

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

> To me analyzing the given examples it seems as if a mall was necessarily a > closed place while a shopping center would/could have outdoor connectivity. > They appear to be similar as they both have several independent shops and > collective facilities like toilets and parking. Maybe a mall has t

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

I was also thinking that landuse=retail makes more sense than either mall or shopping_centre. If you have a big building enclosing lots of shops, you can tag it building=mall. johnw, I understand the distinction you're making (I would call your "shopping_centre" a "strip mall", I think). But do yo

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

A few points: * OSM standard is British English. Shopping Centre is standard British English for an enclosed pedestrian space with lots of shops. Historically these have been covered, but this is changing to a simulated street environment (in UK Liverpool One the Arc at Bury St Edmunds

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Your description of a mall as an enclosed place makes sense to me, but where > I live they seem to call anything a “mall”. > > Here is the "Watchung Square Mall”: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838 > and the “Valley Mall”: http:/

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

Your description of a mall as an enclosed place makes sense to me, but where I live they seem to call anything a “mall”. Here is the "Watchung Square Mall”: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838 and the “Valley Mall”: http://www.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > To me analyzing the given examples it seems as if a mall was necessarily a > cl

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=stationery, shop=office_supplies

On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 22:37 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > I haven't noticed one for several years, but there used to be stores > that specialized in selling greeting cards and small ornamental gifts. > Hallmark greeting cards had a retail chain. > There are lots of these around, I have not noti

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=stationery, shop=office_supplies

On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 23:24 -0500, Toby Murray wrote: > I know I have used office_supply for Staples. When I looked it up in > the wiki, the stationery page did not include the examples of the > office superstores and my impression was that it was intended for > smaller shops, including the Hallmar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - cycleway=soft_lane

Hallo, I would like to extend the voting period on my proposal, since it only has 9 votes at the moment. How much more time should I give it. 1 Week? 2 Weeks? Also, please leave your vote and/or comment on the discussion page if you like. Best regards Hubert From: Hubert [mailto:sg.fo

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

To me analyzing the given examples it seems as if a mall was necessarily a closed place while a shopping center would/could have outdoor connectivity. They appear to be similar as they both have several independent shops and collective facilities like toilets and parking. Maybe a mall has to have r

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

I agree with Matthjis--I don't see much of a clearly defined and widely agreed on difference between the two. Given that, and the small usage of shopping_centre, I agree with should deprecate shopping_centre. Cheers, Brad On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > The third is funct

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

The third is functionally an esplanade (far, far more people walk it than drive it), and it's official name is the Portland Mall. Originally it only had bus lanes on it, but Portland being too cheap to install bus traps and not exactly having the most rigorous enforcement decided to add a third la

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - (brickkiln)"

We collected the data from field survey. On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-10-21 10:27 GMT+02:00 Megha Shrestha : > >> We are not about to import any dataset instead we will manually upload >> the data to osm. >> > > > how did you collect the data, e.g. about l

Re: [Tagging] cleanup of the key natural

2014-10-20 19:13 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > > Most known caves are dry. I know because I have been in thousands of them. > being dry doesn't mean they are not water-related. beaches also often are dry. > > please don't take wikipedia as > your one and only reference. I don't, but i

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - (brickkiln)"

2014-10-21 10:27 GMT+02:00 Megha Shrestha : > We are not about to import any dataset instead we will manually upload the > data to osm. > how did you collect the data, e.g. about landownership, the numbers of male and female workers, etc.? Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - (brickkiln)"

We are not about to import any dataset instead we will manually upload the data to osm. Cheers, Megha On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-10-19 7:10 GMT+02:00 Megha Shrestha : > >> Thank you for the suggestion. These are the details that are already >> available

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=stationery, shop=office_supplies

On 21/10/2014 05:24, Toby Murray wrote: ... I considered Staples to be different enough to deserve a different tag. I am not convinced that I am right... just stating at how I arrived at my tagging decision. ... that was pretty much my thought process with shop=office_supplies too. I'd be

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=stationery, shop=office_supplies

2014-10-21 2:12 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > I don't think there's much difference in reality as both sell paper, pens, > ink and etc. However, the newer office supply places like Staples and > Office Max are superstores that sell desks, computers, and other office > furniture as well. When I thin

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-21 2:04 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > +1 for leisure=scuba_diving_attraction or better yet, leisure=divespot and > define the attraction or divespot further with subkeys > I prefer leisure=divespot or dive_spot (?) or leisure=dive_site This could still be coupled with tourism=attraction

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

The second is in no way, shape or form, a "mall", in the modern usage of "Mall' to define a shopping plaza destination. The word mall can also define a pedestrian walkway with shops, But the singular noun of "Mall" - meaning a large pedestrian centric shopping plaza - is very different than 5 s

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

Isn't shopping centre a collection of disparate stores grouped together for connivence (same parking lot), whereas a mall is a singular large (or several large) buildings full of little shops, primarily accessed by a pedestrian Thoroughfare in the center? To me the defining characteristic is p

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

Paul, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall your first two examples are malls, the third one would not be a mall. Volker On 21 October 2014 07:57, Paul Johnson wrote: > I'm thinking this is a shopping mall >