[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Consulate Consular representation of a foreign country in a host country as defined by the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

I have updated both the proposal page and the discussion page (with e-mailed comments) of Proposed features/Consulate https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Consulate Please do continue to comment and to offer suggestions, and to pose questions.  I am incorporating suggestions

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

ere: https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/285262.pdf for a taste of what a small U.S. embassy does.  The larger U.S. embassies do much more.  I cannot speak for the embassies of other nations. On 10/24/2018 8:52 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:19 PM Allan Mustar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Please continue to comment on this proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Consulate I have posted comments received via the tagging mailing list to the discussion page of this proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Consulate Please

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Colin Smale wrote: > > The location of an embassy in the capital is surely not prescribed by law, but by expedience isn't it? The ambassador wants/needs to be near the action in order to carry out their primary role - interfacing with the host country government. Answer: Yes. The location of an

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

I like Graeme's idea.  Round peg in round hole.  How would people feel about modifying the current Consulate proposal to encompass this?  Or should I leave the proposal for amenity=consulate as it is? On 10/25/2018 3:13 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just had a thought :-) > > Would this work

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

They end in gov.tm, and UK government domains end in gov.uk. UK embassy employees abroad have addresses ending in fco.gov.uk Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > >> On 26. Oct 2018, at

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

s diplomatic=consulate, consulate=consulate general.   An example from New Delhi, where I was stationed for three years: * The State of Virginia (U.S.) Office would be tagged diplomatic=other, other=subnational. Sorry for the long-winded reply but I thought your question deserved a comprehensive r

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

atic=other since its head is called "resident coordinator" and the UN Mission is covered by the UN Charter, not the VCDR.  Would the lay person know all this?  Not until reading the wiki articles we will need to compose if a primary diplomatic=* tag is adopted.  Sometimes it is not completely

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

It would not get the diplomatic=* tag so still would not show up in an overpass turbo search based on that tag plus the name.  Same goes for an hotel tagged name=Embassy Suites. On 10/30/2018 3:57 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Thanks - that makes sense now! > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 08:42,

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables Proposal RFC

That’s true even in parts of the developed world. It would be useful! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > I agree that it would be useful and reasonable to have frequency (headway’s) > and the days a route is served. > > Here in Indonesia, most

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Dear Colleagues, Eleven days into the RFC, we have three competing lines of thought regarding even a primary tag for diplomatic missions, and similarly little consensus on additional (secondary and tertiary) tags that would preserve and expand information. The three lines of thought are: *

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

How about amenity=embassy, amenity=consulate, plus amenity=representation to capture those facilities that are neither pudding nor frozen, er, sorry, neither embassies nor consulates?  Any heartburn there?  Then we use diplomatic=* as an additional tag (i.e., continue current practice) to specify

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Daniel, many thanks for this tip.  I had not seen this before!  It will be useful. Responses to the e-mail have been posted (with some consolidation to avoid unnecessary duplication) to the discussion page .  

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

mbassy, consulate, etc.] would meet OSM guidelines? We're only five days into the RFC so lots of time left to comment! cheers, Allan Mustard apm-wa On 10/26/2018 1:28 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2018-10-26 03:26, Allan Mustard wrote: >> Under the legal doctrine of extraterritoriali

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Not really dropping.  More like reorganizing.  As someone who has spent hours puzzling over Maperitive's rendering rules, deciding how to build them so that particular categories of POIs will be rendered in specific ways, I am quite sensitive to the need for consistency and a finite number of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

tags by more experienced mappers. It will make rendering easier snd the database more accurate. That is my objective here. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 31/10/18 12:33, Allan Mustard wrote: >>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

On 10/31/2018 3:11 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > If the consensus is that "other" sucks as an option I'm certainly > open to other suggestions, but we need something for diplomatic > missions headed by neither an ambassador/charge d'affaires (i.e., > subject to the VCDR) nor a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Some responses to Warin: On 10/31/2018 3:45 AM, Warin wrote: > Errr. > > By combining Embassy with High Commission there is a decrease in > information. > No information is lost.  "High Commission" is an embassy by another name, between Commonwealth members.  The term "high commission" would be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Regarding the question of using office=* as the primary key or diplomatic=* I note that the Key:diplomatic wiki article admonishes: Note Do not use diplomatic=* without amenity=embassy since it is not independently recognised by renderers. How do we get around that (probably a naive

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

separate. > >> Le 25. 10. 18 à 03:25, Allan Mustard a écrit : >> I like Graeme's idea. Round peg in round hole. How would people feel >> about modifying the current Consulate proposal to encompass this? Or >> should I leave the proposal for amenity=consulate as it is? >&

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

If we want to split hairs, we can point out that "embassy" is technically an incorrect term for any building since an "embassy" consists solely of people assigned to conduct diplomatic relations with a foreign government, both resident and non-resident.  The "chancery"

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

ing does not reflect U.S. government policy in any way, shape, or form. On 10/27/2018 2:57 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 12:52 PM Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: > > If my sense of growing consensus is correct, I suggest that > di

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

to read.  :-) And Paul, you can find the switchboard telephone number of my embassy in OSM <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/340379440#map=19/37.94136/58.38829>.  apm-wa On 10/27/2018 6:22 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:52 AM Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

I agree.  Keep it to three: [embassy, consulate, other].  If the mapper doesn't know, he can check the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website.  The information will typically be there. apm-wa On 10/27/2018 9:20 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 27.10.2018 11:57, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >>

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Hmmm.  Reaching back to my bachelor's degree in political science, Parliament is also a government body, the legislative branch of the government, so even a member of the opposition is part of "government" in its broadest sense.  I would tag it office=government, government=parliamentarian or

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

Definitely not an embassy, and not a consulate, either!  More like a specialized travel agency that focuses only on visa applications. On 11/3/2018 6:22 AM, Warin wrote: > Hi, > > Node: Visalink Germany (4362535595) is tagged as an embassy. > > It is a commercial firm that arranges applications

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Top-level tag IMHO would be office=government, then additional tag would be government=legislature. The three branches of government are the executive, the legislative, and the judicial branches. On 11/4/2018 5:08 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 07:05, Warin

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

legislatures.  "Politician" would be more appropriate for the campaign office of candidate who has not yet been elected, but they are temporary and thus not mappable under OSM guidelines. On 11/4/2018 6:33 AM, Warin wrote: > On 04/11/18 11:17, Allan Mustard wrote: >> >> Top-level

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Where do you draw the line? >> If a 'government company' has 50% of its income from a government >> allocation and the rest from elsewhere (e.g. contracts with private >> companies/individuals) is it 'government' or not? >> >>  On 04/11/18 20:19, Allan Mustard wrote: &g

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

y a member of the legislative branch, and his office budget is so appropriated.  Cheers, apm-wa On 11/4/2018 2:04 AM, Warin wrote: > On 04/11/18 01:41, Paul Allen wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:29 AM Allan Mustard > <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: >> &

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

; >> On 4. Nov 2018, at 05:54, Allan Mustard wrote: >> >> Paul, as Deep Throat told Bob Woodward, "Follow the money." Who pays the >> rent on the office and who pays the salary of the occupant? If the filthy >> lucre comes out of the government budget,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

:09 PM, egil wrote: > On 2018-11-01 20:12, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:14 AM Allan Mustard > <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: >> >> * shift to office=diplomatic and use the existing diplomatic=* >> additional (secondary) ta

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

a wholly different purpose and is not visible in most map products. Please don't go to the Turkmenistan map and delete all my hand-entered tags on the highways! Allan Mustard On 11/2/2018 5:04 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Putting aside the discussion about type for a moment, this topic > r

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

ation would probably be a bridge too far. On 11/1/2018 10:16 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > >> On 1. Nov 2018, at 17:57, Allan Mustard wrote: >> >> How about amenity=embassy, amenity=consulate, plus amenity=representation to >> capture tho

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

esident one. > So I would use a different term, office=diplomatic for example. > >> On 26/10/18 12:26, Allan Mustard wrote: >> Embassies and consulates are definitely government facilities/offices. >> Under the legal doctrine of extraterritoriality, the embassy or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

gt; -- > Andrew > ---- > *From:* Allan Mustard > *Sent:* 25 October 2018 02:25:07 > *To:* tagging@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate) >   > > I like Graeme's idea.  Round peg in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Embassies and consulates are definitely government facilities/offices.  Under the legal doctrine of extraterritoriality, the embassy or consulate is considered to be located in the sending country for purposes of legal jurisdiction.  Extraterritoriality is virtually unlimited in the case of an

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

One of the commenters has suggested an additional tag indicating what services a consulate or embassy provides, and that is one option.  Not all consulates or consular sections of embassies offer all visa types, for example.  The existent service=* tag could possibly be used.  For example, one

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Nuncios are specifically named in the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, as are envoys, ministers, and chargés d’affaires: *Article 14* 1.Heads of mission are divided into three classes, namely: (a) That of ambassadors or nuncios accredited to Heads of State, and other heads of mission of

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Embassies and consulates are not open to the public, either. You have to make appointments for visa interviews, notarials, passport applications, business counseling, pretty much any service. The lone exception in Ashgabat is the OSM mapper who drops by to share something with the ambassador

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

Old news.  I've been accused of that for years.  But numerous Turkmen government officials have MAPS.ME on their smartphones, and the mayor of Ashgabat has a copy of the wall map we produce in his office. On 10/28/2018 7:24 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 20:00, Eugene

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

No response to date to my requests.  No approval, no response, just silence, and widespread utilization of MAPS.ME on smartphones. On 10/28/2018 10:07 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 15:02, Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

mal burden on the community. On 10/28/2018 1:18 AM, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:50 PM Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: > > From where I sit (literally!), as a bureaucrat who spends many > hours most days in an office, that tag fits diplomatic functi

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)

First of all, big thanks to all discussants who have pitched ideas and asked probing questions--I think we are moving toward a more elegant solution than what I originally proposed. As of 28 October 2018, one week into the RFC, here is where I think we are (stay tuned for further developments,

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Kind folks, Comments on the proposal tapered off after Eugene's November 4 post, so I plowed through the comments and have rewritten and moved the amenity=consulate proposal to office=diplomatic.  You may find the rewritten proposal here:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Office=visa_application would handle that. Or office=company, company=visa_application. Such offices are not diplomatic facilities, but rather are commercial (they are contractors). Thus they don’t fit under office=diplomatic anyway and don’t fall under the scope of this proposal. That said,

Re: [Tagging] Government Archives

Most of what government consists of services. On 11/10/2018 5:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > >> On 8. Nov 2018, at 02:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> An archive is a place that stores old information. >> Humm .. is giving me access to that information a

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

John and Warin are correct.  These are not government offices.  They are either contractors (private firms with a government contract) or lawyers/paralegals offering visa application assistance. When I was posted to Istanbul three decades ago, before computers took over, some enterprising fellows

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Sometimes, you can.  It depends on the type of liaison office.  AIT and TECRO both issue visas.  The State of Virginia office in New Delhi, obviously not. On 11/10/2018 9:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > You can not usually get a visa from a liaison office, or can you?

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

This is a contractor, so it is not a government office.  The U.S. government does this also in high-volume consular districts.  Application is made through a contractor, though the interview takes place in the consulate.  Office=visa_application would be more accurate, since visa adjudication

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

so it > might be okay to just adopt it as is.) > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 1:25 PM Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: > > Kind folks, > > Comments on the proposal tapered off after Eugene's November 4 > post, so > I plowed through the com

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Here, please take a look at the updated Tagging section of the proposal and see if that solves the issue.  I include a link to the Wikipedia article on ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 codes. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/office%3Ddiplomatic#Tagging *Current Proposal:* * establish

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Host might be a nicer word, but in diplo-speak it is possible to have a different host from the entity to which the mission is accredited (think of the various missions to the World Trade Organization in Geneva: target=WTO, host=CH. On 11/11/2018 11:49 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Sun,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Colin is correct.  I have added target=* to the proposal.  country=* is already there.  If there are multiple target countries (the U.S. Embassy in Colombo, for example, also covers the Maldives in addition to Sri Lanka) would it not be possible to tag as target=LK;MV ?  On 11/11/2018 3:52 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

l, consular_agency, > consular_office, honorary_consul] > * diplomatic:liaison > > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:liaison=edit=1>=* >  with > key values of [liaison_office, representative_office, subnational]; > > Cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Warin, may I please remind you that in your message of 31 October you were the mapper who expressed great concern about loss of data? On 11/13/2018 2:37 AM, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2018-11-12 22:00, Warin wrote: > >> On 13/11/18 01:07, Allan Mustard wrote: >>> Not contri

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Yes, absolutely.  For example, the Turkmen ambassador in Brussels is accredited to both Belgium and the European Union. It's not hypothetical at all, but rather very much real life. On 11/12/2018 1:51 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 21:42, Allan Mustard &

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Not contrived at all in these days of tight budgets. I see no reason the inverse would not work. I’ll add it. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > >> On 2018-11-11 21:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Just for the sake of asking a theoretical question

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Voting is not yet open.  Warin asked that the comment period be extended for another week, so I am acceding to his request.  apm-wa On 11/13/2018 7:41 PM, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > Thanks! > > ... but I don't see a voting section in >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

Yes, the UK embassies act on behalf of nationals of the British Commonwealth if they have no representation in country.  I'd not tag that, either.  They already know it :-) On 11/12/2018 2:36 PM, Warin wrote: > On 12/11/18 18:31, Colin Smale wrote: >> >> On 2018-11-11 21:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

Even for a government bureaucrat like me it seems a bit wordy. :-) On 11/12/2018 6:19 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote >> On 7. Nov 2018, at 02:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> Maybe change the title a little bit: "office of an elected official"? > maybe this goes too far? > > Cheers, Martin >

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

In Turkmenistan I have tagged such signs (though they are official, and for villages/towns) as tourism=information, information=board or information=name depending on how much info it contains.  If there is a better tag, I am all ears. On 11/16/2018 7:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15,

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

to continue to live in the country. >> >> It is the inverse of an embassy. >> >> Javbw >> >> On Nov 3, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Allan Mustard wrote: >> >>> Definitely not an embassy, and not a consulate, either! More like a >>> specializ

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

t, government=migration does not handle this. > Particularly when the office is a commercial firm, and I think has no > government funding. > > >> On 06/11/18 14:11, Allan Mustard wrote: >> The office=government, government=migration tags already handle this, >> no? >>

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

I like constituency_office. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2018, at 4:44 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think I have firmed up on > > office=government > > with either > > government=constituency_office > or > government=politicians_office > > I'll start a proposal

Re: [Tagging] Government Archives

An archive is a special government office. Not a library and not a museum. I’ve used the National Archives in Washington, D.C., and in College Park, Maryland. Government=archive is most accurate. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

ight be a bit more complicated than > that...) Providing free transport, well, I suppose anyone can make it > free if they want, but the money has to come from somewhere... > > > On 2018-11-04 15:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> >> >> sent from a phone >>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (office=diplomatic)

Semicolon!  Sorry, my eyes are going bad!  Will fix.  Thanks, Graeme! apm On 11/17/2018 8:51 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 12:46, Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: > > > Best regards to all, and please do not forget t

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

vices even if they >>> do not live there, so I would be comfortable tagging a settlement of 4000 >>> people as a town on an island with 200,000 people but no other settlements >>> over 1000 people in size. >>> >>> This is how I tag places

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

s this is similar in your country? > > But in a densely populated region, like Java (where there are 120,000 > million people on one island), even a settlement with 20,000 people might > just be a conglomeration of farming villages that hardly qualifies as a > town, and a town could grow to 200

[Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

Looking for some guidance here from the tagging experts. Please see the dispute section on the Turkmenistan wiki discussion page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Turkmenistan#Disputed:_Suggested_Place_Tags_for_Administrative_Subdivisions The nub is that I advocate classifying

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

Not according to the wiki. It seems nodes are the accepted way of identifying a settlement, municipal or otherwise. On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:11 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 2. Jan 2019, at 00:44, Allan Mustard wrote: > > > > W

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

be the distinguishing characteristic. > > Perhaps you have a particular example in mind? > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:30 PM Allan Mustard wrote: > >> By that definition, then, calling an autonomous village with its own >> council a "neighbourhood" would be e

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

To be clear, it is not my proposal and I cannot even ride a motorcycle. The mapper making the wholesale changes, ti-lo/Rtfm, should submit a proposal, period, since it appears the issue involves wholesale change of existing tags, not introduction of new tags. It may not be a "requirement" but

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

Motel = MOtor hoTEL The major difference between a 'hotel" and a "motel" originally was the configuration of the building with respect to parking. At a traditionally designed motel, the cars are parked outside the units, which typically open to the outdoors, not to a hallway, so that patrons of

Re: [Tagging] Building names, historical/original owner?

That’s good, too. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2018, at 11:44 AM, Jmapb wrote: > >> On 12/14/2018 11:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 11:36 PM Adam Franco wrote: >>> What are folks thoughts about these historical-owner building names when >>> they aren't

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (office=diplomatic)

Dear Colleagues, Votes are in.  18 aye, 1 nay, 1 abstention.  The proposal passed.  Many thanks to all who commented, suggested, and voted.  The final product is not what I proposed but it addresses all concerns raised and I think it is far better than the status quo ante. I tried to create a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (office=diplomatic)

cation banner says that the reason for the deprecation is > documented in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Deprecated_features > but I don't see anything about amenity=embassy in there... > > Cheers, > > Sergio > > > On 2018-12-02 23:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >&g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

Well, a central bank is a bank, after all, whether it is owned by the government or is a "private" parastatal organization.  I would tag it as amenity=bank since it is a bank.  Not all banks offer consumer services, so the fact that an individual cannot open an account in a central bank doesn't

Re: [Tagging] Tracks for moveable large objects

If it is moveable it is a gantry crane.  A gantry per se can be immobile, right? That aside, rails are rails.  Maybe not a rail line in the conventional sense, but I tagged an (unfortunately disused) children's train in Ashgabat https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429019713 as a railway even though

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

Sounds to me like the OSM wiki article in question was written by a non-expert in banking and finance and should be corrected/expanded. Cheers, apm-wa Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:45 AM Allan Mu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

hat do not accept the public. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dfinancial > Perhaps this OSMwiki office=financial definition could be expanded to > accept 'central banks'. > > > > On 24/11/18 18:24, Allan Mustard wrote: >> Sounds to me like the OSM

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

/Tag:amenity%3Dbank > > That OSMwiki page suggest using office=financial for other > 'banks' that do not accept the public. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dfinancial > Perhaps this OSMwiki office=financial definition could be > expanded to

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (office=diplomatic)

c missions.  It was not only valuable for me to get all the perspectives you offered (and to tap your experience as mappers), it was just plain fun, too!  Best regards to all, and please do not forget to vote! Allan Mustard apm-wa ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (office=diplomatic)

The proposal specifies English—mi scuzi—прошу прощение—Entschuldigen Sie bitte :-) Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2018, at 8:35 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:52 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick >> wrote: >> > >> Should EU:NATO be a colon or a semi-colon? > > According to

Re: [Tagging] Quick Building tracing question...

My understanding of the 3D aspect of building:part is that if you draw a portion of a building using building:part you have to do the rest of the building using building:part as well or the whole building will not render in 3D, since 3D software is programmed to ignore the base building footprint

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

’ worth. Cheers, Allan Mustard apm-wa Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > > the DWG has received a complaint about user ti-lo/Rtfm's introduction of > motorcycle tags. > > Until 03 April, the shop=motorc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (office=diplomatic)

Many thanks, Paul.  I'll pick up the cudgel tomorrow and continue with the grunt work (assuming the wiki software doesn't revert the change :-) apm-wa On 12/2/2018 10:57 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:48 PM Allan Mustard <mailto:al...@mustard.net>> wrote: >

[Tagging] incubator for the birth of chicks

Speaking as a former farmer and retired agricultural economist, this is a type of farmstead, called in OSM "farmyard". We don't differentiate between farms that produce seeds for planting versus grain for consumption. Nor should we differentiate between farms that produce chicks for growing