Re: FW: vfo

Um, google and apple already do this and windows phone is about to die. So that idea would be kinda pointless. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, richard kurlander via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > I had a feeling when gwmicro and aisquared merged that something would > happen. hope

vfo

I had a feeling when gwmicro and aisquared merged that something would happen. hope that the new company could find a way to use touch screen phones with some sourt of interface to use touch scren phones. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this

Re: My thoughts on the buyout

I have a feeling that possibly in the not-to-distant future, we will find the screen reader will become an outdated concept On 6/14/2016 11:59 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: Hello all, I've read all of the E-mails on the subject of the buyout of AI Squared, and that's what I think this

Re: Screen readers and monopolies.

To stay semi on topic, this merger has the potential to break the whole blindness at industry, esp. When you talking about braille. Still say monopoly. Just wait and see when products start getting axed. This really messes stuff up for screen magnifier users. There isn't a advanced nvda type

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hi Guys. Speaking of getting JAWS being promoted over Window-Eyes, I spoke to an organisation about Window-Eyes last year, and one of the guys at the organisation told me that he have had a huge moral problem with cost and licenceing model of JAWS. -Original Message- From: Talk

My thoughts on the buyout

Hello all, I've read all of the E-mails on the subject of the buyout of AI Squared, and that's what I think this is, with interst and some anger. Anger because, as many have stated, we likely will lose Window-Eyes, something I'm not a huge fan of. I know how to use this screen reader better

My thoughts on AI Squqred Acquisition by VFO

Hello All: I’ve read through all of the discussion on this list about AI Squared being acquired by VFO. Let me share some thoughts, both as a Window-Eyes user for around 20 years who also uses JAWS extensively, and as a former Adaptive Technology Specialist who worked in the field with all

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

To those infavor of government intervention, Have you forgotten that the Shark was highly promoted by governmental involvement? Do you think that getting the government involved will probably?possibly? and/or impossibly! help the cause of WindowEyes? I have my sincere doubts! -Original

Screen readers and monopolies.

Hi. I'll be watching what happens with this new merger with interest. I have two main things to mention. First, congrats to all who kept this quiet. Apple needs to learn from this news. Second, and my main topic, is the thought that this new company is a monopoly. It's not. It doesn't

Re: My Take On things.

Karyn, Don't bank on my stupidity for your retort. I have an iPhone. No one puts "Sent from my iPhone" on the bottom of their messages so people will know they dictated. Apple puts it there by default as an advertisement. Users have to figure out how to change or remove it. Most don't.

RE: What keyboard should I get?

Hi Paulette, Here's a link to a page on the Apple Vista site where you can listen to a demo of the Apple Magic keyboard, the newest from Apple: http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/apple-magic-keyboard-unboxing-descr iption-and-connection Good luck, Rod -Original Message- From:

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Great idea. Not!!! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:21 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Darrell, I would

Re: My Take On things.

Don't worry, Nick. There's still a stack of folks having a coronary over Windows 10. But this is how soap operas work: one tragedy trumps the previous one, and on and on it goes. Tom On 6/14/2016 8:56 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Remember the good 'ole days when Windows 10 was all we

Re: What keyboard should I get?

For what it's worth, I really like my Amazon Basics keyboard for the rare times I need to use one with my phone. Decently built, nice key travel, and for around $20 you can't beat the price. Steve > On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk > wrote: > >

Re: What keyboard should I get?

Paulette, Personally, I'm picky about keyboards. And I don't know what you're looking for in a keyboard. Some want the ultimate portability while others want more ease of use, and so on. So the only thing I can suggest given the amount of keyboards out there is to go to an Apple, Verizon, or

RE: What keyboard should I get?

This is not on topic for this list. There are several I phone lists for the blind. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:05 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Darrell, I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called deal. Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and

RE: betrayal

And les choices is what willhappen. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre

Re: My Take On things.

Remember the good 'ole days when Windows 10 was all we worried about? Oh to go back to a simpler time. On 6/14/2016 5:07 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Can't you even slow down enough to check the nonsensical results of your furious dictation? On 6/14/2016 4:23 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk

RE: betrayal

Darrell, I would agree with you. I know of someone who is DeafBlind who had problems with Freedom Scientific so I have grave concerns with regard to that and this community. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and

What keyboard should I get?

Hi all, I sent this question to another list and got no response. So I thought I would ask all of you. I have an iPhone which is a 5 S. What type of apple keyboard should I get to go with it or a 6. I am considering upgrading. I looked at Apple keyboards on Amazon and saw a great many to

Re: betrayal

why do you think freedom is doing this? when the free version of window eyes for office came out freedom lost a lot of its customers. there just takeing out revenge against aisquared. -Original Message- From: Jim Noseworthy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:51 AM To: 'Sky

Re: To Doug and the others at GW Micro

Amen! Thanks for your best, Window-Eyes and A1Squared! And thanks for the smile, Dave, Trish -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:42 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: To Doug and the others at GW Micro Hello Doug, I am not thrilled about the

Re: AI Squared has a new parent company

Agreed Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Kevin Barry via Talk > wrote: > > I am quite sure, that the new owners will quickly decide that they do not > need to keep supporting two screen readers. > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Charles Short via

Re: AI Squared has a new parent company

I am quite sure, that the new owners will quickly decide that they do not need to keep supporting two screen readers. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Charles Short via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Oh no, does this mean that Window-Eyes won't be available anymore? > > > Charlie Short

RE: AI Squared has a new parent company

Oh no, does this mean that Window-Eyes won't be available anymore? Charlie Short -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:53 AM To: mattc...@verizon.net; 'Window-Eyes

Re: My Take On things.

I believe that you can spread out payments now. On 6/14/2016 1:22 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Absolutely not. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Evan Reese via Talk wrote: One thing I can say for GW Micro was that when I needed a new

Re: betrayal

Unfortunately the Cakewalk program will not work in Windows 10 nor in any versions of Jaws after version 16. On 6/14/2016 1:15 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: Hi Guys. I know that some of you guys are upset about this but here is my thoughts on this. As we all know, Window-Eyes has been

Re: My Take On things.

hahahaha, if that was aimed at me, I didn't dictate it. lol! Just atempting to offer a bit of perspective and calm people down. Sorry if it struck a nerve. I never meant to. On 6/14/2016 5:07 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Can't you even slow down enough to check the nonsensical

Re: My Take On things.

Can't you even slow down enough to check the nonsensical results of your furious dictation? On 6/14/2016 4:23 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I would be more than willing to give them a chance, if they were not in bed with the double of the system technology. Sent from my iPhone On Jun

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hi Doug and list. I need to thank you Doug for the positive perspective and the sincerity of what you have said. I just hope that internally, there is product design collaboration, and if that is so, user concern, (including mine) will of course disipate. You are one of those great software

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Say what you want, but when a leveraged buyout firm purchases a bunch of businesses in an industry, the customers are in real trouble. The absolute last thing they have in mind is benefiting the customer. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Darrell Bowles via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: >

Re: betrayal

NVDA is not a Free Screen Reader. You can use it for Free, but those guys do appreciate a little feed back in the form of Cash for their efforts and to show how much you like their work. Without Cash, even the NVDA screen Reader that you think is Free will go away too. -- Dave

RE: betrayal

And add that hideous copy protection system. The old GW Micro always behaved ethically in my opinion, and although I have always been forthright regarding some aspects of how customer sales and service is delivered to those of us outside the U.S., Window-eyes has always been a good

Re: betrayal

Contacting the Federal Trade Commission?And you are doing this for what reason? Geez! Some of you make me laugh! involving the Government is rarely a good idea. The reason for this is because the Federal Government tends to make worse just about everything it touches. So do you

RE: betrayal

Yes: and I suggest that people go and check out AI Squared presentation from CSUN - url not readily available to me. Lots of optimism, and plenty of talk about Fusion, and the rewriting of braille support. Good things: now possibly trashed. Against my better judgement, I renewed my SMA. I

To Doug and the others at GW Micro

Hello Doug, I am not thrilled about the blending of A I Squared and Freedom Scientific. but, it looks like it will be happening, and so I can only hope for the best. I have no idea what Trials you and Dan suffered through, all these years of attempting to provide a very good Screen Reading

RE: My Take On things.

Hi Chris: It was my fault mentioning trade regulations - didn't think about the possibility they were in financial trouble - should have since I have thought that for several years now but panic seems to temporarily block rational thinking sometimes. I said it would likely do no good contacting

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

As long as freedom scientific lets them. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:32 PM, RJ Sandefur via Talk > wrote: > > I just got a message from AIsquared, and they said they're going to continue > support for all products. RJ > > >> On 6/14/2016 4:29 PM,

RE: My Take On things.

Thanks for that, Chris. Two thoughts that I'd like to throw out there for consideration are these: 1. we now have the top talent in the AT industry working under one umbrella. Thus, instead of competing, we have the opportunity to cooperate with each other. Yes; this means the Window-Eyes and

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

I just got a message from AIsquared, and they said they're going to continue support for all products. RJ On 6/14/2016 4:29 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: It won't work -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

I'm going to do it anyway. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk > wrote: > > Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government will do > any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell. > I hope the

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government will do any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell. I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new list addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go away. Also, if the office /

Re: My Take On things.

I would be more than willing to give them a chance, if they were not in bed with the double of the system technology. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Chris Skarstad via Talk > wrote: > > I can't believe how crazy some of you are getting over

RE: My Take On things.

I agree. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:19 PM To: Chris Grabowski; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: My Take On things. I can't believe how crazy

Re: My Take On things.

I can't believe how crazy some of you are getting over thisthis deal just went down, and all of a sudden Window-eyes is already just assumed to be gone. It's not. No announcements on the future of any products has been made. Please do not jump to conclusions, call your congressmen or

RE: My Take On things.

One can still create set files, that functionality wasn't removed, just could be enhanced with scripts/apps. Ai Squared Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Although I am not a Apple user I understand their voice over works pretty well. Maybe our hope should be that Microsoft adds a voice over to Windows and I am not talking about Narrator. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Hi: So would you contact the Justice Department or the FTC to file a complaint? There are allot of scriptors out here who have put allot of time and effort into work that wont be used under jaws and the folks who have purchassed the office product to get hthe low-cost version of WindowEyes will be

Re: My Take On things.

I think due to uia, and osm issues, set files are less useful than they used to be, not anyones fault, just the way things are being displayed with no osm makes a lot of what is in a set file much less valuable than it used to be. Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi, >

Re: what choice?

One thing for sure is that jfw and window-eyes will become a homogeneous product, with features of both incorporated into the other, kind of like milk, you know. :) And, the price will be? which? pay more for the screen reader than a new computer, has always been the case except at the very

Re: betrayal

Bye Bye Window-Eyes. Bye Bye Zoomtex -Original Message- From: Ray Campbell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:56 AM To: Reeva Webb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: betrayal Darrell: I'm thinking many of those same thoughts on initially reading about this. Kind of

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Its a strange thing when change happens and maybe, a bit daunting. That said, all we can do is move on and simply remember in other events out there where life is on the line makes this news small play. I somehow doubt many in-or around Orlando could give a damn so which is more important?

RE: My Take On things.

Hi, I'm not certain precisely what you mean when you say that the creation of set files was taken away. Set files are still used and can be created in Window-Eyes to the present day. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: My Take On things.

Hi, Evan, Someone on this list told about contacting FS for the same arrangement, and he was told to contact his rehab counselor-all very well and good if you're going through rehab. Otherwise it's utterly inane. Evelyn - Original Message - From: Evan Reese via Talk

Re: what choice?

If you actually think we will continue to exist much longer now that it's under the same roof as the shark. I have a bridge i wanna sell you. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > You don't know that. No one knows what products will stay or go.

RE: win 10 w.e 9.4 folder details alt v how?

Hi, Specifically, press Alt-V, then L, whereupon you will be in a list box and you can up or down arrow to the display preference you wish. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of tt8 via Talk Sent: Tuesday,

Re: vfo

Chris, Will windows eyes for office be done away with under VFO group? On 6/14/2016 3:00 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote: The correct address is t...@lists.window-eyes.comm this is why it failed. Ai Squared Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802)

what choice?

if you don't like free speech delete it. i have used window eyes over jaws for 25 years. it was then and is now much easier to use and configure myself which i couldn't do with jaws. now this choice will be gone and jaws will be the only choice i have. -Original Message- From: RJ

RE: vfo

The correct address is t...@lists.window-eyes.comm this is why it failed. Ai Squared Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: what choice?

You don't know that. No one knows what products will stay or go. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:51 PM To: RJ Sandefur; via Talk Subject: what choice? if you

RE: betrayal

On the otherhand: they could simply iraticate Window-Eyes and Magic from the market place and put all of their efforts in to JAWS and Zoomtext. Whatever the case, you can bet it will be a business decision. Cheers. -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Well said Tom. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+armando.maldonado0767=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 AM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared We

Re: win 10 w.e 9.4 folder details alt v how?

With the ribbon and windows 10, after hitting all TV, you will need to press the tab key to find the setting that you wish to change, and then press enter. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:44 PM, tt8 via Talk wrote: > > > > > Forwarded

Fwd: win 10 w.e 9.4 folder details alt v how?

Forwarded Message Subject:win 10 w.e 9.4 folder details alt v how? Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:42:25 -0400 From: tt8 To: Ai Squared Support I am trying to change folder details using windoww 10 64 with w.e 9.4

FW: vfo

-Original Message- From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:mailer-dae...@op0iron01.schools.nyc.gov] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:33 PM To: Kurlander Richard (75) Subject: Undeliverable: vfo The following message to was undeliverable. The reason for the

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

We heard you the first 72 times! When are you going to take a break to call the Federal Trade Commission, the president, the United Nations, and NATO? Filing law suits, negotiations, legislative actions, and nuclear war all take time. On 6/14/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Will you please stop wining like children! On 6/14/2016 1:53 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Of course I do. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Does anyone know the word "Monopoly???" -Bob Ringwald

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

I have confidence in people, I do not haveconfidence in corporate giants. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Bill Tillery via Talk > wrote: > > Thank you Doug, > > As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable > changing in

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

I agree. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bill Tillery via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:27 PM To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Thank you Doug,

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Thank you Doug, As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable changing in the field of accessibility. I, for one, am certainly willing to give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your

Re: My Take On things.

Absolutely not. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Evan Reese via Talk > wrote: > > One thing I can say for GW Micro was that when I needed a new screen reader > back in 2007, GW Micro let me pay for Window Eyes on installments. I could > never

RE: betrayal

Hi Guys. I know that some of you guys are upset about this but here is my thoughts on this. As we all know, Window-Eyes has been denied its opertunity in mainstreme blind related computer programs, meaning that in the days of GWMicro, no agency would fund Window-Eyes even though it had a price

Re: My Take On things.

One thing I can say for GW Micro was that when I needed a new screen reader back in 2007, GW Micro let me pay for Window Eyes on installments. I could never have afforded it otherwise. As far as I know, Freedom Scientific does not, and never has given people that option. Evan -Original

Re: betrayal

As long as there are other screen readers available, especially free ones, it's difficult to imagine one has a case. On 6/14/2016 1:39 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Rest of shored, I will be contacting the Federal Trade Commission. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:36 PM,

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Complaining is not the same as taking action. On 6/14/2016 1:49 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I am tired of waiting to see what happens. I am going to take action. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: Let's just wait

Re: betrayal

You will not support NVDA, because you do not get a profit from it. Never mind if the product works or not. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > wrote: > > First you or noone else knows what will happen this might be good.

RE: betrayal

First you or noone else knows what will happen this might be good. Second I won't ever support nvda. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of multi 85 via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:18 PM To: RJ Sandefur;

My Take On things.

First of all I am not sure where the idea of SMA for Window Eyes is cheaper than the SMA for JAWS. I had a choice of either paying fifty dollars for the newest Window Eyes of buying an SMA for two hundred dollars and getting the last update free. Window Eyes SMA is good for two versions. JAWS

Re: betrayal

FS also prevented manufacturers from supporting JAWS with their older displays, effectively rendering perfectly serviceable displays obsolete for JAWS users, even though they still worked with other screen readers' latest versions. Presumably this was designed to encourage people non too

Re: betrayal

Are you sure Darrell? Even though I'm not exactly happy about this, I wouldn't say it is a monopoly. We must just make sure that colleges, universities and governments know there are alternatives such as SA, Baum Cobra, Dolphin screenreader and NVDA. The problem will be if the company or

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Of course I do. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk > wrote: > > Does anyone know the word "Monopoly???" > > -Bob Ringwald > > > -Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

I am tired of waiting to see what happens. I am going to take action. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis Long via Talk > wrote: > > Let's just wait and see what happens. We don't know the inner workings of > the agreement. > > -Original

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Let's just wait and see what happens. We don't know the inner workings of the agreement. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

It's been a while since I've had to have any knowledge of this, as this was not my area of legal expertise. However, I think Anti-trust suits are usually brought by the Justice Department, and as this really affects only a very small smidgeon of the overall computer market, I wouldn't look for

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Amen, and amen. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:30 PM, multi 85 via Talk > wrote: > > Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also > bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader > is good for some

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader is good for some situations or works with one program and then you use another for a different situation? Less screenreaders = could be problematic. On

Re: betrayal

I think Tom's got it 100% correct. Sure, people are pissed about this and I can respect that. But sending hundreds of emails isn't going to change anything. It's not as if the parties involved are gonna go well gosh, so and so on the email lists think this is a really bad idea. Lets not

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

wishful thinking. look for another job. when aisquared murges with freedom most aisquared employees will be fired. this happened with both my parents when humble oil bought out signal oil. they promised all the signal oil employees would be retained. that lasted for 6 months then all signal

Re: betrayal

I actually like Jaws. You are finding more and more third party support for Jaws. I have been a Window-Eyes user since the days of Windows 95. When Freedom Scientific began the HUP with my former employer, I bought a Jaws license and now I use both. With free or low-cost screen readers,

Re: betrayal

Any of you also remember the 64-bit braille display driver controversy as well, where FS forced braille companies to pay to secure their drivers? GW stood against that, now what? Maybe braille companies will get in the act again like Papenmeier did with early Windows if FS try impose other things

Re: betrayal

Yeah, NVDA will be all that stands between us and total domination and stagnation and lack of innovation for us. At least we have the whole rest of world's brainpower, so we all work together and it will be a totally universal screenreader if we help keep it going, because it will be the little

Re: betrayal

Darrell, With all due respect, what is sitting there all day bombarding this list with rants going to accomplish? Go out into the woods, scream, and uproot a redwood to burn off your fury. There's nothing we can do about this decision. It's a done deal. And speculating is a waste of time

Re: betrayal

The lads on the NVDA list must be giddy with celebration. One less screenreader, they can channel the goodwill and skills of loads more free developers round the world. On 6/14/16, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: > Who knows, Hims-inc might be next. RJ > > > On 6/14/2016

Re: betrayal

I'm seeing a large donartion to N.V.D.a. in my future. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:11:10 -0400 RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: > Who knows, Hims-inc might be next. RJ > > > On 6/14/2016

Re: betrayal

Who knows, Hims-inc might be next. RJ On 6/14/2016 1:03 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Do not even mention those things. They are an abomination. Darrell Bowles Assistive Technology Trainer Pelissippi State Community College 8656613917 -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: betrayal

This whole thing is a lose lose situation for screen reader and screen magnification users. I need and use both. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Darrell Bowles via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Do not even mention those things. They are an abomination. > > Darrell Bowles > Assistive

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

So we should be encouraging this type of behavior? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk > wrote: > > Doug, I believe as many on this list, you had no choice, so it is more > proffitable to go along than resist, so hey since you,

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Doug, I believe as many on this list, you had no choice, so it is more proffitable to go along than resist, so hey since you, cannot beat em, you join em, simple as that. Company man! go for it and leave the ideals of those who have spent over 30 years now supporting your, company. Now it is a

RE: betrayal

Do not even mention those things. They are an abomination. Darrell Bowles Assistive Technology Trainer Pelissippi State Community College 8656613917 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of multi 85 via Talk Sent: Tuesday,

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