Re: Trying to download expressive voice from VFO

I did not have that problem when I downloaded those voices. Rick On 7/29/2017 1:47 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: > I am trying to download the Expressive Voices for JAWS. It says it will take > 3 hours and 45 minutes. Has anyone else experienced such slow downloads at > VFO. I have fast Inte

RE: Trying to download expressive voice from VFO

from VFO I am trying to download the Expressive Voices for JAWS. It says it will take 3 hours and 45 minutes. Has anyone else experienced such slow downloads at VFO. I have fast Internet. I have been trying JAWS and so far I HATE it, after using Window Eyes for so many years, it seems so clunky

Trying to download expressive voice from VFO

I am trying to download the Expressive Voices for JAWS. It says it will take 3 hours and 45 minutes. Has anyone else experienced such slow downloads at VFO. I have fast Internet. I have been trying JAWS and so far I HATE it, after using Window Eyes for so many years, it seems so clunky

Re: Fw: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

9:02 PM > To: blindt...@groups.io > Subject: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? > > Dear all, > ‘Will VFO Acquire NVDA?’ has been a highly debated topic in the > blindness community in recent times. Find out the answer to this > inquiry with all the cogent

Re: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On May 29, 2017 8:37 PM, "Tom Kingston via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > This is the first I've heard of the "highly debated" topic of VFO > acquiring NVDA. To me it sounds more like a blogger tryin

Re: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

rote: > This is the first I've heard of the "highly debated" topic of VFO > acquiring NVDA. To me it sounds more like a blogger trying to get more hits > on his site. > > NVDA has long had funding from government, corporate, and charitable > foundations. But the more users

Re: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

This is the first I've heard of the "highly debated" topic of VFO acquiring NVDA. To me it sounds more like a blogger trying to get more hits on his site. NVDA has long had funding from government, corporate, and charitable foundations. But the more users donate the more progress wi

RE: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? Thanks, Russ. Chris G.'s point is an excellent one, though, i.e., NVDA needs bucks. Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: May 29, 2017 9:45 AM To: talk

RE: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

Subject: Fw: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? I thought some of you would be interested in this? -Original Message- From: Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:02 PM To: blindt...@groups.io Subject: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? Dear all

Re: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

In window eyes, you don't have to hear that letter b, either. Pam. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 11:50 AM To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO

Re: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

Kiehne via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:45 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Fw: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? I thought some of you would be interested in this? -Original Message- From: Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:02 PM To: blindt

RE: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

[mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:37 AM To: 'Chris G' <jedikent@mysticaccess.email>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acqui

RE: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:34 AM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? One thing to keep in mind, if users and agencies don't donate to NVDA and can go away

Re: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

essage- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:45 AM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Subject: Fw: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? > > I

RE: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? All I can say to that is Long live NVDA. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:45 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Fw: [BlindTech] New

RE: [Blindest] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

All I can say to that is Long live NVDA. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:45 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Fw: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO

Fw: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access?

I thought some of you would be interested in this? -Original Message- From: Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:02 PM To: blindt...@groups.io Subject: [BlindTech] New Blog Post: Will VFO Acquire NV Access? Dear all, ‘Will VFO Acquire NVDA?’ has been a highly debated topic

Re: contacting VFO?

here FOLKS! Got it and got it installed! Thanks for all your help! de . On 18-May-17 17:09, Tony C via Talk wrote: That is the number. lol -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:53 PM To: Jim via Talk Subject: Re: contacting VFO? I think

Re: contacting VFO?

. On 18-May-17 17:09, Tony C via Talk wrote: That is the number. lol -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:53 PM To: Jim via Talk Subject: Re: contacting VFO? I think the number is: 800 444-4443.--Matthew Chao On 5/18/2017 1:42 PM, Jim via Talk wrote

Re: contacting VFO?

Hi There FOLKS! Got it and got it installed! Thanks for all your help! de . On 18-May-17 17:09, Tony C via Talk wrote: That is the number. lol -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:53 PM To: Jim via Talk Subject: Re: contacting VFO? I

Re: contacting VFO?

That is the number. lol -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:53 PM To: Jim via Talk Subject: Re: contacting VFO? I think the number is: 800 444-4443.--Matthew Chao On 5/18/2017 1:42 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: Hi there FOLKS! Talked

Re: contacting VFO?

Hi: I just got through to VFO Technical Support at (727) 803-8600 Kevin Huber On 5/18/17, Jim via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Hi there FOLKS! > > Talked to a lady at VFO several days ago and she was going to send me a > download link for JAWS. She took my info

RE: contacting VFO?

ubject: Re: contacting VFO? I think the number is: 800 444-4443.--Matthew Chao On 5/18/2017 1:42 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: > Hi there FOLKS! > > Talked to a lady at VFO several days ago and she was going to send me a > download link for JAWS. She took my information and I have yet t

Re: contacting VFO?

I think the number is: 800 444-4443.--Matthew Chao On 5/18/2017 1:42 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: Hi there FOLKS! Talked to a lady at VFO several days ago and she was going to send me a download link for JAWS. She took my information and I have yet to here anything at all..? Maybe I just

contacting VFO?

Hi there FOLKS! Talked to a lady at VFO several days ago and she was going to send me a download link for JAWS. She took my information and I have yet to here anything at all..? Maybe I just haven't waited long enough, or should I try to call them again? If the latter, I need their number

RE: Experience With VFO

: Experience With VFO Hi, I had some less than good experiences with FS. But II' called VFO to take adavantage of the switch over offer, and had a plesant experience. I called again this morning because I got an e-mail from VFO of the order confermation, and was wondering when I would get

RE: Experience With VFO

I agree. VFO was very prompt. The bittersweet for me is I was literally in the financial position to finish upgrading Window-Eyes and I no longer can. I would still purchase the remaining upgrades because I want to own a current standalone License of Window-Eyes. VFO still hasn't applied

Re: Experience With VFO

Hi, I had some less than good experiences with FS. But II' called VFO to take adavantage of the switch over offer, and had a plesant experience. I called again this morning because I got an e-mail from VFO of the order confermation, and was wondering when I would get the Auth key to get Jaws

Experience With VFO

I’ve always been a Window-Eyes user and heard bad things about JAWS and Freedom Scientific. I had a problem and called VFO. The tech spent two hours with me on the phone trying to solve it. This tells me that perhaps VFO is going to have better support than, I understand FS was. I

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

:25 PM To: 'Stephen Clark' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. This is getting really old and quite boring. All that is happening here is rampant speculation and scare mongering by a few people who either work for JAWS or have so little to do

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

com> Subject: Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. Not only that, but go to the AI Squared web site and follow the links. That should also tell you something. Here's a little the majority of them link to the Freedom Scientific site. On 5/9/2017 8:59 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: >

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. If you're trying to get people to stop using Window-eyes, you're probably in for a pretty good fight there. and there has been no official announcement that Window-eyes is indeed dead. people will still use

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

, May 10, 2017 10:07 AM To: Chris Skarstad <rascal0...@verizon.net>; talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. I did see the following on another list: From: Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> I saw the WE thing over the weekend on a quick pos

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

Window Eyes may bnot be dead, just no future development! -Original Message- From: Ivan Cribb via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 10:21 PM To: 'Sky Mundell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. Dear Sky, Talk about W E being dead

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

h if I remember, is going to end in 2020. Bummer for WindowEyes folks who have invested the time to learn the application and money, but you know it was going to happen as soon as VFO acquired it. Doom and gloom aside, You're still talking nearly three years out which for technology is a lifetime. S

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:35 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. They may not legally be able to at this point. There may be legal

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

Discussion List' Subject: RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. Hi Chris. Its Sky here. I will tell you guys that, even before the office version of Window-Eyes came out, their were even lies told by venders about it. For example, some of the venders would say Window-Eyes was going bust

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

readers. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 8:35 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. They may not legally

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

They may not legally be able to at this point. There may be legal things that might prevent them from making announcements before the date that has been decided. One of the VFO staff isn't going to come on here and go s guys, we're killing Window-eyes but don't tell anyone

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

No, it's not smart business. Besides, I thought there would be an announcement in June. On 5/9/2017 9:47 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: > Wouldn't you think with all this WE is dead talk that someone from VFO > would step in and say it ain't so? > > On 5/9/2017 8

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

So maybe listers should consider sending a copy of their messages on this list to the VFO customer service or tech support or Doug or anyone else in the organization and see if they react or respond? On 5/9/2017 9:47 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: Wouldn't you think with all this WE is dead talk

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

Wouldn't you think with all this WE is dead talk that someone from VFO would step in and say it ain't so? On 5/9/2017 8:28 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Hmm, sounds like fake news Peter. I deal in accuracy, so if VFO discontinues WE as of July 1st 2017 (for example), then it is not dead

Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

Hmm, sounds like fake news Peter. I deal in accuracy, so if VFO discontinues WE as of July 1st 2017 (for example), then it is not dead until that date. I'm sorry if you don't care for reading the truth. On 5/9/2017 8:59 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: > Well, you are welcome to your perso

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 6:38 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. If you're trying to get people to stop using Window-eyes, you're probably in for a pretty good fight there. and there has been no official announcement

RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

I'm much happier with this subject line - smile! Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

wrote: Well, Window-Eyes is unfortunately definitely dead. It is irrational to presuppose that VFO will support two competing screen readers, with one a lot cheeper than the other. Sad to say, JAWS won and WE lost the screen-reader wars. Those of us with technical skills ought to help NVDA

Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

n List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more VFO is going to be kissing my rear soon. I'm already making plans to make the switch to MAC. The Apple/Mac OS is just more stable, and the built in voice over works with so muc

Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

C via Talk > Sent: 01 April 2017 20:16 > To: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and > more > > VFO is going to be kissing my rear soon

RE: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

Talk Sent: 01 April 2017 20:16 To: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more VFO is going to be kissing my rear soon. I'm already making plans to make the s

Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more VFO is going to be kissing my rear soon. I'm already making plans to make the switch to MAC. The Apple/Mac OS is just more stable, and the built in voice over works with so much more stuff than any of the Windows screen readers. Places like VFO

VFO and nfb and washington?

ok I am missing something. what is happening with the nfb in washington? is washington getting tired of the nfb? one good thing the nfb is doing is or was helping to fund development of the low cost orbit braille display. so if you want to fill me in on what the nfb is doing or not doing in

Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

lso > notice what is said about the soon to be windows 10 creators update. > Part 1 - What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more > http://traffic.libsyn.com/atupdate/ATU032417.mp3?dest-id=68811 > Part 2 - What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zo

Re: What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

VFO is going to be kissing my rear soon. I'm already making plans to make the switch to MAC. The Apple/Mac OS is just more stable, and the built in voice over works with so much more stuff than any of the Windows screen readers. Places like VFO keep trying to "rape" the blind

What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more

Notice in this two part podcast, nothing is said about window-eyes. Also notice what is said about the soon to be windows 10 creators update. Part 1 - What's new with VFO - Eric Damery, JAWS, Zoomtext, Fusion and more http://traffic.libsyn.com/atupdate/ATU032417.mp3?dest-id=68811 Part 2 - What's

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

t; Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:11 AM >> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Reeva Webb ; Dennis Long >> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account >> >> I understand that. And that is great, for you. I just can't deal with >> touch

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

Of Singing Sparrow via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:50 PM To: Steve Nutt; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Reeva Webb' Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account I like windows but I am leaning more towards a mac because of the things that people have to go through for windows. I mean, come

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Some of these other Screen Readers are just not in the same level of Quality and Features as JAWS and Window Eyes. Unless the other Screen Reader Companies have something JAWS might want, they are probably Safe from a Hostile Take Over. -- Dave

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

There is another screen reader called System Access by Serotek. I wonder if they will be the next one to be aquired by VFO? -Original Message- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:36 PM To: 'Loy' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

I like windows but I am leaning more towards a mac because of the things that people have to go through for windows. I mean, come on; I mean with the way that window eyes and jaws are competing with each other even though that VFO has them both under their banner it is very sad that things

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account The only other screen reader I know of is Dolphin and who knows it may be next on VFO's list of Acquisitions . - Original Message - From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: 16 March 2017 06:54 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account You know, this gets me thinking esp. With the conversations I've had in the past week. W

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

via Talk Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:46 PM To: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Butch Bussen <but...@shellworld.net> Cc: Reeva Webb <jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account With

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:23 PM To: Terri Pannett; Marcie Chaney; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account The APH Orbit Reader 20 will allow you to add a braille display to a smart phone

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Don't be surprised if the VFO group tries to acquire Sarotec? -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 1:14 PM To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account Pam: VFO is very close to a monopoly

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Many blind people can't afford the high price for braille displays and notetakers. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 10:33 AM To: Terri Pannett ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account Remember, most

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I understand that using braille on an Apple device would be a challenge. This is because everything is translated into grade 2 instantly so if you don't

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

The APH Orbit Reader 20 will allow you to add a braille display to a smart phone, tablet or ipod touch. -Original Message- From: Terri Pannett via Talk Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:22 AM To: Marcie Chaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account I

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

that should also give you uncontracted braille instead of contracted braille input and output. On 3/17/2017 5:42 PM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote: You can set braille input and output on the iPhone, contracted, 6 dot, or 8 dot in both cases. ___ Any

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

You can set braille input and output on the iPhone, contracted, 6 dot, or 8 dot in both cases. -- Reg On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:38:15 -0700 Terri Pannett via Talk wrote: > From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Kiehne via Talk wrote: Think about this? You can get a iphone and APH — Orbit Reader 20 for a lot less money than a Notetaker? -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:44 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Pam: VFO is very close to a monopoly. Not quite, as there are other players but certainly close. The point is that it may have become so dominant that it prevents other players from growing their market share or even entering the market. The opinion that someone has offered whereby

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Not completely correct: you are accurate in that by default, contracted braille is the default translation, but you can set things so as to input and output in uncontracted Braille. Or - as I do - input in uncontracted and see output in contracted. Braille on an Apple device for me is

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

I've been doing a lot of reading up on this, it appears the future of Windows is a universal platform that can run any app written in any programming language. So, in theory, it won't matter what device or platform you're using. With slight modifications, the same universal app could run on

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Webb Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account Without veering too much off topic, is there some preliminary advice you can give for trying to learn how to navagate a touch screen? Full disclosure, I'm a button man. On 3/17/2017 9:34 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: I was one of lthose who

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

; Dennis Long > Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account > > I understand that. And that is great, for you. I just can't deal with > touch screens. Give me buttons to push. As I said in an earlier note, > the same solution isn't for everyone. You guys and your i whatevers >

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Remember, most blind persons don't use Braille. On 3/17/2017 12:41 PM, Terri Pannett via Talk wrote: > Again, braille is not supported the way it should be. 20 cells is just > not enough, especially if you want to use braille exclusively and turn > off speech. I would never buy an Orbit for

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

I once said, don't force me to buy a computer. On 3/17/2017 12:38 PM, Terri Pannett via Talk wrote: > From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I > understand that using braille on an Apple device would be a challenge. > This is because everything is translated into grade 2

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

eded to look for one of > those, but I'm not optimistic we'll be able to find one when we need it > with buttons or knobs you can feel. > Evan > > -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 11:07 AM > To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion Li

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

From what people have posted on various lists that I belong to, I understand that using braille on an Apple device would be a challenge. This is because everything is translated into grade 2 instantly so if you don't write fast enough, your text will be garbled. People who prefer braille will

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Discussion List Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account Yes Rick, I reluctantly agree with you that too many things have become Political. And I for one, do not know how to reverse this politicizing of every sort of Service the Government or Privet Sector might offer. Let's face it, the Blind

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Again, braille is not supported the way it should be. 20 cells is just not enough, especially if you want to use braille exclusively and turn off speech. I would never buy an Orbit for that reason. Terri Amateur radio call sign KF6CA ___ Any views

RE: Failure to hold VFO to account

Reg Web, President Trump going blind? You've been wiretapping the green White House! Oh, and from England? Yikes! You're in trouble, you've been spying for the UK5 for a long, long time! Now watch out, we're coming after you!! Sarcasm apart, it would probably be hidden from the public the

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

I don't think you said anything about braille. Braille has always been important to me, and I wonder if the mainstream phones and computers would support it if the braille notetakers/displays were no longer around. Only blind people who read and write braille exclusively can understand this.

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

Yes Rick, I reluctantly agree with you that too many things have become Political. And I for one, do not know how to reverse this politicizing of every sort of Service the Government or Privet Sector might offer. Let's face it, the Blind are a very small group when looking at the entire

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

017 10:51:21 -0400 Pamela Dominguez via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > I remember when this all went down, I referred to VFO as a monopoly, and was > smartly chastized for it. I don't know why. To me, it seems like it has > taken over everything. Isn't

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

: Failure to hold VFO to account I remember when this all went down, I referred to VFO as a monopoly, and was smartly chastized for it. I don't know why. To me, it seems like it has taken over everything. Isn't that a monopoly? Pam. -Original Message- From: Olusegun

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

. -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:45 PM To: 'ukekearu...@valtdnet.com' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account I feel that the key point as this relates to Window-eyes is missed: if you don't pay - you can

Re: Failure to hold VFO to account

I remember when this all went down, I referred to VFO as a monopoly, and was smartly chastized for it. I don't know why. To me, it seems like it has taken over everything. Isn't that a monopoly? Pam. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent

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Microsoft could developed Narrator to work as good as any screen reader and the cost could be spread out across million and millions of copies of Windows, where a company like VFO or AISquared has to spread out the cost to a few thousand copies of the screen readers sold. Apple did it so why

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to hold VFO to account I feel that the key point as this relates to Window-eyes is missed: if you don't pay - you can presume to not get. The Window-Eyes for Office deal has meant that there is no cash to fix long standing problems or to develop new features. People who make a business choice

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Think about this? You can get a iphone and APH — Orbit Reader 20 for a lot less money than a Notetaker? -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:44 PM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account I'm

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Discussion List Cc: Reeva Webb ; Dennis Long Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account I understand that. And that is great, for you. I just can't deal with touch screens. Give me buttons to push. As I said in an earlier note, the same solution isn't for everyone. You guys and your i whatevers

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' Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account I feel that the key point as this relates to Window-eyes is missed: if you don't pay - you can presume to not get. The Window-Eyes for Office deal has meant that there is no cash to fix long standing problems or to develop new features. People who make

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tch...@mediacombb.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account I happen to think, on a humanitarian rather than on a political level, that some goods and services, defined as essential, should be shielded from market forces. I w

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Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:46 PM To: 'ukekearu...@valtdnet.com' <ukekearu...@valtdnet.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account I feel that the key point as this relates to Window-ey

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Well said sir. That's more like it. -- Reg On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:34:25 -0600 "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk" wrote: > Tony, I could not agree more! It seems to me that blind folks are pretty > happy being ripped off.

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rants, and tax exempt status, and yet there products cost twice as much as > open market products. Tell me this, how many of the top 10 people at Freedom > scifi, or VFO are actually blind??? These top 10 are also the top wage, > bonus, expense, earners, and so on and so forth. > > --

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Discussion List Subject: Re: Failure to hold VFO to account And the free version for Office was subsidized by Microsoft. - Original Message - From: Sky Mundell via Talk To: 'Vaughan Dodd' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:53 PM Subject: RE

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Hello list. Speaking of holding VFO accountable, Where is any information of the update of Window Eyes for the new release of Windows 10 soon to be released? I have not seen this as of yet. I want to get a new computer in April but if I don't know for sure if Window Eyes works with it, I

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And the free version for Office was subsidized by Microsoft. - Original Message - From: Sky Mundell via Talk To: 'Vaughan Dodd' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:53 PM Subject: RE: Failure to hold VFO to account Hi Vaughn. When the office

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