RE: Remind Me Where app
Hi David, Sorry, I can't help you with respect to this app. However, the email address I have for Chip is list...@comcast.net. Why not ask him directly? Smile. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: May 31, 2019 12:37 AM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Remind Me Where app For a good while, I have been enjoying the Remind Me Where app, developed by Chip. It really has helped me in getting to know my surroundings. Don't know, if any of the users still on this list, has any experience with this app. Today, I again needed some travelling directions. The app keeps throwing an error on me. Rquest denied, is all I can get from it. I did have some recent trouble with my WinEyes installation. Just wondering if it is my computer, The app, or Google that has got a headache. If anyone else on the list is using this app, could you please let me know if it works on your computer? Or, perhaps this is yet another plug that has been pulled. Would be too sad, though. Thanks to all, -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C766a3b1562ba4ece694b08d6e581a884%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636948742366942673&sdata=vOiWe3ZmQ%2BP5J9GyfWZaMTVUUyKVkFmdIqG8UaF%2Fadg%3D&reserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C766a3b1562ba4ece694b08d6e581a884%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636948742366942673&sdata=4pzuZ9r%2FyUpI7JuNOOEwLjygtYn8goKo7fwCo%2F9allM%3D&reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C766a3b1562ba4ece694b08d6e581a884%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636948742366942673&sdata=G1i%2FnmTLclLqCBprdKCQ7XkNxHLJmqCwCjsuUI36eQQ%3D&reserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Remind Me Where app
For a good while, I have been enjoying the Remind Me Where app, developed by Chip. It really has helped me in getting to know my surroundings. Don't know, if any of the users still on this list, has any experience with this app. Today, I again needed some travelling directions. The app keeps throwing an error on me. Rquest denied, is all I can get from it. I did have some recent trouble with my WinEyes installation. Just wondering if it is my computer, The app, or Google that has got a headache. If anyone else on the list is using this app, could you please let me know if it works on your computer? Or, perhaps this is yet another plug that has been pulled. Would be too sad, though. Thanks to all, -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where can I find the program indicator for jaws?
open the default settings center. its in the users menu. but so far i haven't had it report anything either. -Original Message- From: Richard Jarvis via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 5:10 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: where can I find it? Hello I am learning jaws after being a window eyes user since the beginning. I was wondering where I might go to get the progress indicator to work when I am downloading or installing a program? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Rick ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where can I find it?
Hello I am learning jaws after being a window eyes user since the beginning. I was wondering where I might go to get the progress indicator to work when I am downloading or installing a program? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Rick ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hello Olusegun, At no point in my statement did I attack freedom of expression, only if the signature was appropriate for this list. I, too, fully believe that freedom of expression is a human right which should not be denied to anyone. In the UK it is apparent from our own news channels, the various US news media that we have access to and Americans I know very well that there is still a level of controversy about the current US head of state. In light of that the signature I have questioned is an overtly political statement which not all US citizens would agree with. That was my sole reason for questioning the validity of the signature. I suggest that the subject should be dropped from this list. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. [mailto:ukekearu...@valtdnet.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 1:32 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Hello Mr. Farley: Freedom of Expression, Speech, Assembly, Religion and a trillion other freedoms exist. That's the case at least in a Western plural democracy to which many of us subscribe either by doctrine, or through whatever informed decisions we elect to make. The only freedom humans do not have is FREEDOM FROM DEATH! If they do, the most powerful and well-situated ones amongst us would have purchased it all for themselves and their heirs alive and yet unborn! So, sire, let whatever FREEDOM there is ring from the hilltops, through the prairies, mountains, cliffs, lakes, rivers, oceans near and far, below and above the sky, and everywhere humans dare to set their feet. It is true that my freedom begins where the first person's stops; however, NOT very many humans recognise this for a fact and the cacophonous rumblings continue. Let FREEDOM ring; let each person elect to hear the pealing sounds of its bell, or else ignore. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
To be fair the first amendment only applies to any infringement by the state (I'm sure you know this already). Regarding this matter, it can allow or sensor what it deems to be inappropriate speech. So far, it has not so... On 6/4/2017 8:32 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: > Hello Mr. Farley: > > Freedom of Expression, Speech, Assembly, Religion and a trillion other > freedoms exist. That's the case at least in a Western plural democracy to > which many of us subscribe either by doctrine, or through whatever informed > decisions we elect to make. > > The only freedom humans do not have is FREEDOM FROM DEATH! If they do, the > most powerful and well-situated ones amongst us would have purchased it all > for themselves and their heirs alive and yet unborn! So, sire, let whatever > FREEDOM there is ring from the hilltops, through the prairies, mountains, > cliffs, lakes, rivers, oceans near and far, below and above the sky, and > everywhere humans dare to set their feet. > > It is true that my freedom begins where the first person's stops; however, > NOT very many humans recognise this for a fact and the cacophonous rumblings > continue. Let FREEDOM ring; let each person elect to hear the pealing > sounds of its bell, or else ignore. > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hello Mr. Farley: Freedom of Expression, Speech, Assembly, Religion and a trillion other freedoms exist. That's the case at least in a Western plural democracy to which many of us subscribe either by doctrine, or through whatever informed decisions we elect to make. The only freedom humans do not have is FREEDOM FROM DEATH! If they do, the most powerful and well-situated ones amongst us would have purchased it all for themselves and their heirs alive and yet unborn! So, sire, let whatever FREEDOM there is ring from the hilltops, through the prairies, mountains, cliffs, lakes, rivers, oceans near and far, below and above the sky, and everywhere humans dare to set their feet. It is true that my freedom begins where the first person's stops; however, NOT very many humans recognise this for a fact and the cacophonous rumblings continue. Let FREEDOM ring; let each person elect to hear the pealing sounds of its bell, or else ignore. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
It really has no place here, but lots of things have no place here. On 6/4/2017 1:28 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > Seems like a suitable sign off to me. On Sat, 3 Jun 2017, Dennis Long > via Talk wrote: > >> Oh come on quit griping create a gripers list they will be happy to hear >> your complaints >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk >> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:57 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts >> >> Hello list, >> >> While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of >> this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following >> sign-off >> really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for >> visually impaired people all trying to help each other. >> I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members >> political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such >> statements. >> >> >> Now follows the sign-off: >> >> >> From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America >> First. >> President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 >> >> btinternet.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 >> >> gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. Seems like a suitable sign off to me. On Sat, 3 Jun 2017, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: Oh come on quit griping create a gripers list they will be happy to hear your complaints -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Hello list, While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following sign-off really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for visually impaired people all trying to help each other. I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such statements. Now follows the sign-off: From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Oh come on quit griping create a gripers list they will be happy to hear your complaints -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of John Farley via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Hello list, While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following sign-off really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for visually impaired people all trying to help each other. I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such statements. Now follows the sign-off: >From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Political Statement on list, was) RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hello list, While I, as a UK resident, realise that there are a great many members of this list that are patriotic citizens of the USA is the following sign-off really a suitable statement for what is, after all, a global list for visually impaired people all trying to help each other. I certainly do not think so and would rather not see other list members political opinions on this list. There are other lists for such statements. Now follows the sign-off: >From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hi Dave, Try Insert-Tab along with Insert-Numpad-PageDown. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: June 2, 2017 11:12 PM To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Where to find JFW Scripts Hi David, As I have been exploring JAWS, I have been pleased with some things, and Under whelmed with other things. In fact, I have been Spoiled by Window Eyes. Its organization and the way it gave access to adjusting many of its features is so much better. Jaws on the other hand, takes some getting used to, little by little, section by section.Jaws seems to be more Functional rather than Intuitive or logical. Jaws does what it does, and it actually does it well. I have found Jaws to run more Stable than the latest edition of Window Eyes, and it reads some Web Sites I enjoy going to better than Window Eyes. Some Web Pages caused Jaws to mis-read, or not read at all, but Jaws has yet to fail, crash, or Freeze. The latest edition of Window Eyes unfortunately goes silent, or even Freezes from time to time. For the past week and a half, I've been using Jaws where I volunteer, and really hammering it at times. I have yet to have the odd problem when switching back and forth in Jarte from one document to another, Lots of Cutting n pasting, saving files over and over as they are up dated. Window Eyes could get into a Loop where it would repeat the same line over and over anytime any key was pressed. Even when pressing the CTRL key would not quiet Window Eyes , but would repeat the same line again. So far, Jaws has not failed even once. -- And for what it is worth, before VFO gave the offer I couldn't refuse, I was starting to use NVDA, and it too never acted up while doing the same tasks. One thing that I have not yet figured how to make Jaws do is to read a list of items, say a list of files in a folder. Window Eyes would read the file name, along with the other info about that file, and it would tell you the file was the 7th of a list of 20 files. I liked knowing the place in the list. And Jaws does not give you this information. And Jaws does not repeat the name of the file when the top most file or bottom most file has been reached. I could be at the top file in a list of 10 files, and if I press the Up Arrow to go up Jaws remains silent. Jaws does not repeat the name of the top most file. Now Jaws may do this, I just have yet to stumble on the area where these settings can be set. jaws does what its Fans say it will do, and it does it reliably well. Too bad finding almost anything in Jaws can be a bit of a challenge. Maybe some day, Jaws with get the Re-do of its Interface it needs. But, I won't be holding my breath. If Jaws doesn't have a Central Location of most Jaws Scripts, then I doubt if they are going to put a lot of effort into better organizing all the many settings to be found in Jaws. The folks at Jaws are Happy with Functional, and if you can't figure it out, or find it, then that is your problem, not theirs. I did speak with Jaws Tech Support, and the guy was plesant, and Helpful. Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hi David, As I have been exploring JAWS, I have been pleased with some things, and Under whelmed with other things. In fact, I have been Spoiled by Window Eyes. Its organization and the way it gave access to adjusting many of its features is so much better. Jaws on the other hand, takes some getting used to, little by little, section by section.Jaws seems to be more Functional rather than Intuitive or logical. Jaws does what it does, and it actually does it well. I have found Jaws to run more Stable than the latest edition of Window Eyes, and it reads some Web Sites I enjoy going to better than Window Eyes. Some Web Pages caused Jaws to mis-read, or not read at all, but Jaws has yet to fail, crash, or Freeze. The latest edition of Window Eyes unfortunately goes silent, or even Freezes from time to time. For the past week and a half, I've been using Jaws where I volunteer, and really hammering it at times. I have yet to have the odd problem when switching back and forth in Jarte from one document to another, Lots of Cutting n pasting, saving files over and over as they are up dated. Window Eyes could get into a Loop where it would repeat the same line over and over anytime any key was pressed. Even when pressing the CTRL key would not quiet Window Eyes , but would repeat the same line again. So far, Jaws has not failed even once. -- And for what it is worth, before VFO gave the offer I couldn't refuse, I was starting to use NVDA, and it too never acted up while doing the same tasks. One thing that I have not yet figured how to make Jaws do is to read a list of items, say a list of files in a folder. Window Eyes would read the file name, along with the other info about that file, and it would tell you the file was the 7th of a list of 20 files. I liked knowing the place in the list. And Jaws does not give you this information. And Jaws does not repeat the name of the file when the top most file or bottom most file has been reached. I could be at the top file in a list of 10 files, and if I press the Up Arrow to go up Jaws remains silent. Jaws does not repeat the name of the top most file. Now Jaws may do this, I just have yet to stumble on the area where these settings can be set. jaws does what its Fans say it will do, and it does it reliably well. Too bad finding almost anything in Jaws can be a bit of a challenge. Maybe some day, Jaws with get the Re-do of its Interface it needs. But, I won't be holding my breath. If Jaws doesn't have a Central Location of most Jaws Scripts, then I doubt if they are going to put a lot of effort into better organizing all the many settings to be found in Jaws. The folks at Jaws are Happy with Functional, and if you can't figure it out, or find it, then that is your problem, not theirs. I did speak with Jaws Tech Support, and the guy was plesant, and Helpful. Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where to find JFW Scripts
Too bad, they don't have a one-stop store for the scripts. That really will be a great miss from the WE App Central. Eventhough certain apps for WE also have been distributed outside the App Central, it still was one big resource for getting a hold of what is available. Last night, I did a search on the net, for Jaws Scripts. Sure enough, a ton of websites showed up. Here is a couple of reflections, based on my findings; hoping that any of it would prepare other users what to expect. First of all, one idea might be for you to do a more specified search. Like: Jaws scripts Thunderbird Jaws scripts Itunes Jaws scripts MSOffice . This way, you would get more directly to scripts that would cover your real needs. That is, if you have special needs in a given application. Of course, this way you will loose out on any scripts for general usage, or applications you would not even be aware of. Secondly, I find that many developers seem to spread their scripts a bit here and there. They might have changed service provider, and not bothered cleaning up their old stuff. For instance, when searching for: Jaws Scripts Thunderbird, I found a handful or two of webpages offering such scripts. When checking them out, at least a few of them, I found that they would hold different versions of what seemed to be pretty much the same script. One was dated from 2009, the next from 2010, and you get the idea. smiles. This way, it could be really hard for the end-user to know, and ensure, that he is running the most up-to-date version of the scripts. And what's more, should the user experience any issue with the script, it might be hard to get the most recent assistance from others, since you don't know if their experience is anything more recent. it occurs to me, that this really is not much in the interest of the developer either, since he would have much better success in bringing users to town, did he ensure the people would know where to get the script, and how to obtain the latest. Thirdly, I do see a few developers who seemingly have created a handful of scripts. In such cases, you might want to browse their individual homepage, to see what they can offer you. Depending on how well the homepage is designed, and exactly how well it is being maintained, you will be more or less lucky with your hunt and seek. Even, should you find a script, all current and up-to-date, you download and install it - but does Jaws have any feature the developer can set, to have the script auto-update? Or, will you be left to do another chasing on the net, next week, to see if you are all current? And what if you have ten scripts, you might have to spend a whole morning in tracing any new updates? Or, would any experienced Jaws user please chime in here, and inform us all of their general experience on the matter. The little I have seen of Jaws as of yet - still not been offered the transmission locally - it seems to me, Jaws is on a state where WE was close to ten years ago. Much could have been said, and was expressed, about the needs for further improvement on the WE interface and functionality. But even more could be said about the Jaws menus, features and definitely script availability, far as I have experienced from the demo running. Guess we all have a learning curve, but to a degree, I'd say much of that curve is to climb down from the high level of Win-Eyes, and reset to what our screen reader was like a handful of years ago. Again, I know it was not much encouraging news, but at least it might give some of you a clue what to expect when comes to scripts for Jaws. And for anyone who has the skills and resources, a genious idea would have been to open a web-service offering Jaws scripts. Wonder if people even would have been willing to pay a dollar or two annual fee, for having such a service running. At least, if it would be acknowledged and honored by the developers. As it stands, seemingly a lot of scripters out there, are doing a kind of "let me develop something for my own good, and see if anyone else happen to find it, or even bother using it." For some developers that might be perfect, but for many of us who have been scripting under WinEyes, the idea of having a product that actually makes the day for a number of users, really have been much of the spurring driver behind the whole project. It's like cooking for yourself, as compared to cooking a real rare roast for your whole family party. David On 6/2/2017 7:17 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > It's a good example of where customers rate at FS. Window-Eyes and > NVDA both offer script repositories while JAWS users have always had > to search around the little ol' internet to find them. > And ironically JAWS is much more dependent on scripts than Window-Eyes > and NVDA. > > > On 6/1/2017 4:30 PM, Samuel
RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Oh will you get off it already we get your not happy -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:49 AM To: 'Tom Kingston'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where to find JFW Scripts Absolutely! It has always been dependent on scripts. Venders for the blind has always supported JAWS over Window-Eyes, like I said, it's because of more money, more funding from education, and employment. That's the whole truth and always will be the whole truth. It's the sad truth. It's called a monopoly in the paid market and there was never supposed to be any monopolies at all in the paid market. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:18 PM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Where to find JFW Scripts It's a good example of where customers rate at FS. Window-Eyes and NVDA both offer script repositories while JAWS users have always had to search around the little ol' internet to find them. And ironically JAWS is much more dependent on scripts than Window-Eyes and NVDA. On 6/1/2017 4:30 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: > I would think that would be a really good thing for them to have, a > central repository for all scripts. It would certainly be good for > people who aren't very teck savi. > > > On 01/06/2017 14:54, Dave via Talk wrote: >> I needed to call the Jaws Tech Support yesterday, about a Synthesizer >> problem, and during that call, I asked if there was a Central location >> for Jaws Scripts.The guy said No, but there were some of the Jaws >> Web Site, and others were scattered around, some being Free and others >> were sold for a price. But no main Collection of Jaws Scripts exist. >> >> He also mentioned that some Jaws Scripts may be out of Date and may >> not work well or at all with Jaws 18, so be sure to note whether or >> not the script is a new one, or one made for some previous edition of Jaws. >> >> Grumpy Dave >> >> > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Where to find JFW Scripts
Absolutely! It has always been dependent on scripts. Venders for the blind has always supported JAWS over Window-Eyes, like I said, it's because of more money, more funding from education, and employment. That's the whole truth and always will be the whole truth. It's the sad truth. It's called a monopoly in the paid market and there was never supposed to be any monopolies at all in the paid market. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:18 PM To: Samuel Wilkins; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Where to find JFW Scripts It's a good example of where customers rate at FS. Window-Eyes and NVDA both offer script repositories while JAWS users have always had to search around the little ol' internet to find them. And ironically JAWS is much more dependent on scripts than Window-Eyes and NVDA. On 6/1/2017 4:30 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: > I would think that would be a really good thing for them to have, a > central repository for all scripts. It would certainly be good for > people who aren't very teck savi. > > > On 01/06/2017 14:54, Dave via Talk wrote: >> I needed to call the Jaws Tech Support yesterday, about a Synthesizer >> problem, and during that call, I asked if there was a Central location >> for Jaws Scripts.The guy said No, but there were some of the Jaws >> Web Site, and others were scattered around, some being Free and others >> were sold for a price. But no main Collection of Jaws Scripts exist. >> >> He also mentioned that some Jaws Scripts may be out of Date and may >> not work well or at all with Jaws 18, so be sure to note whether or >> not the script is a new one, or one made for some previous edition of Jaws. >> >> Grumpy Dave >> >> > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where to find JFW Scripts
It's a good example of where customers rate at FS. Window-Eyes and NVDA both offer script repositories while JAWS users have always had to search around the little ol' internet to find them. And ironically JAWS is much more dependent on scripts than Window-Eyes and NVDA. On 6/1/2017 4:30 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote: I would think that would be a really good thing for them to have, a central repository for all scripts. It would certainly be good for people who aren't very teck savi. On 01/06/2017 14:54, Dave via Talk wrote: I needed to call the Jaws Tech Support yesterday, about a Synthesizer problem, and during that call, I asked if there was a Central location for Jaws Scripts.The guy said No, but there were some of the Jaws Web Site, and others were scattered around, some being Free and others were sold for a price. But no main Collection of Jaws Scripts exist. He also mentioned that some Jaws Scripts may be out of Date and may not work well or at all with Jaws 18, so be sure to note whether or not the script is a new one, or one made for some previous edition of Jaws. Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where to find JFW Scripts
I would think that would be a really good thing for them to have, a central repository for all scripts. It would certainly be good for people who aren't very teck savi. On 01/06/2017 14:54, Dave via Talk wrote: I needed to call the Jaws Tech Support yesterday, about a Synthesizer problem, and during that call, I asked if there was a Central location for Jaws Scripts.The guy said No, but there were some of the Jaws Web Site, and others were scattered around, some being Free and others were sold for a price. But no main Collection of Jaws Scripts exist. He also mentioned that some Jaws Scripts may be out of Date and may not work well or at all with Jaws 18, so be sure to note whether or not the script is a new one, or one made for some previous edition of Jaws. Grumpy Dave -- Regards, Samuel Wilkins ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where to find JFW Scripts
I needed to call the Jaws Tech Support yesterday, about a Synthesizer problem, and during that call, I asked if there was a Central location for Jaws Scripts.The guy said No, but there were some of the Jaws Web Site, and others were scattered around, some being Free and others were sold for a price. But no main Collection of Jaws Scripts exist. He also mentioned that some Jaws Scripts may be out of Date and may not work well or at all with Jaws 18, so be sure to note whether or not the script is a new one, or one made for some previous edition of Jaws. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where to find JFW Scripts
Hi Mike: The last time I checked, which was several years ago now, there was no such central repository such as the folks at the then GW Micro had set up for Window-eyes, although If I am wrong, and I hope I am wrong, would someone on this list please enlighten us further. I imagine that scripts from a reacent version of JAWS should work with JAWS 18. Kevin Huber On 6/1/17, Mike Pietruk via Talk wrote: > I realize that over the years probably thousands of scripts have been > written for JFW. > VFO, however, maintains no central repository where these scripts can be > uploaded. > How does one discover what is available for free or for cost? Does > someone maintain some sort of central catalogue; and will scripts written > for a previous version of jJFW work with ver 18? > > Thanks! > > > From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. > President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Where to find JFW Scripts
I realize that over the years probably thousands of scripts have been written for JFW. VFO, however, maintains no central repository where these scripts can be uploaded. How does one discover what is available for free or for cost? Does someone maintain some sort of central catalogue; and will scripts written for a previous version of jJFW work with ver 18? Thanks! >From this day forward, it's going to be only America First, America First. President Donald Trump, Inaugural Address, 1/20/17 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where did I get it
Hi Don: Looks like you came across the Window-Eyes end-of-life message. It comes up after the latest "update" to the WE Diag app. It will come up every time you restart Window-Eyes unless you check the box that says, "don't show again" or something like that. On 5/26/17, Don Smith via Talk wrote: > Morning all: > > Ok, I must have had a dream > > > > I started my computer this morning and up came a great bunch of links with > podcasts about jaws and we migration. > > All kinds of linksand I think it must have been a web page created by jaws > for us we users. > > Was it from an we info file or from jaws, don't know. > > In trying to find out what it came from it desapperaed. > > Maybe it was an app from I squared square, in any case it would help us we > users greatley, but, alas, how did I get it and where did it come from > > > > I know I was not dreaming. > > Don > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where did I get it
Morning all: Ok, I must have had a dream I started my computer this morning and up came a great bunch of links with podcasts about jaws and we migration. All kinds of linksand I think it must have been a web page created by jaws for us we users. Was it from an we info file or from jaws, don't know. In trying to find out what it came from it desapperaed. Maybe it was an app from I squared square, in any case it would help us we users greatley, but, alas, how did I get it and where did it come from I know I was not dreaming. Don ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Hi, Jaws does not have a start up sound. I'm not sure what folder in the WE program where the sounds are located. The transition over to jaws has been pretty easy for me.Re: window eyes shut down and
-Original Message- From: Sue J. Ward via Talk Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:50 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those. Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws. I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window eyes users so we can get used to jaws. Why Your City Doctors No Longer Prescribe Metformin Vibrant Health Network http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/591f225de13e7225d0f3bst04duc ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: where do I go?
That tab tab business annoyed me, too. Here's how to get rid of those pesky announcements. First, press insert-6 (on the number row) to bring up settings center. Then, press ctrl-shift-d (to bring up the default settings). You'll be in an edit box where you can search. Type l a b into the box and then press tab. You'll be on a list item that says "key labels". Press space on that, and you'll get a list of most of the keys that JAWS knows about. You can use first-letter navigation, so, type t and the first thing you'll hear is "tab, tab, speak". Press space on that, and it will change to mute. You can use up and down arrows to find any keys you want their labels changed. When you've made all the changes you want, tab to the OK button and press space on it. Next, tab over to the Apply button. Then, you can press alt-f4 to exit settings center. There's a demonstration of doing this on FSCast. The link is a little messed up on the FSCast page, but, I figured out what the problem was. Here's a direct link to the podcast. Listen for the JAWS byte on Key Labels. http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3 Hope this helps, and, sorry for taking so long to get back. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: where do I go? Hi there PEOPLE! Just got JAWs downloaded and installed. Question, Where do I go to turn off the tab announce, the up/down announce and the space announce? Also, is there mouse keys that I can read the screen with? How do I go about reading the screen using JAWs? And finally, how do I set it to say the words after typing them instead of speaking each letter? Thanks Much de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where do I go?
Maybe many of you will not be aware of this, but Jaws and NVDA actually have some quick-keys for setting key echo. If memory serves me right, try hitting Insert-2, the 2 on your main keyboard, and the key echo should change to "word", which will be the answer to one of the initial queries. Just thought to let you all know. And, first you are at it, it doesn't hurt to test what other features will be attached to the Inser-key, along with the number row on your keyboard. One good news, which you all will love to be reminded, is that Jaws is similar to WinEyes, in that Inser-1, will open the keyboard help mode. Once activated, go ahead and press any key-combination your brain could ever come up with. It won't change anything in your screen reader, but sure will give you a good feeling of some of the most daily used features. Anyone called for some hands-on tutoring? Can't be anything more hands-on, and it will be totally free of charge. Smiles. A good place to start out. Still, if anyone please could inform if there is a quick set of mouse-moving keystrokes, I am sure people here would love to learn. David On 5/18/2017 11:18 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Jaws key and J the enter on options, there you will find options to > set up typeing echo, ie: letters, words, etc, speech rate and such. up > and down arrow to read the screen, jaws key down arrow to reade whole > page. Quite a few of the navigation commands are the same as with WE. > There are a few differences. Then tutorials are very good, short and > to the point. HTH > > -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: where do I go? > > Hi there PEOPLE! > > Just got JAWs downloaded and installed. Question, Where do I go to turn > off the tab announce, the up/down announce and the space announce? Also, > is there mouse keys that I can read the screen with? How do I go about > reading the screen using JAWs? And finally, how do I set it to say the > words after typing them instead of speaking each letter? Thanks Much de > > . > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where do I go?
Jaws key and J the enter on options, there you will find options to set up typeing echo, ie: letters, words, etc, speech rate and such. up and down arrow to read the screen, jaws key down arrow to reade whole page. Quite a few of the navigation commands are the same as with WE. There are a few differences. Then tutorials are very good, short and to the point. HTH -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: where do I go? Hi there PEOPLE! Just got JAWs downloaded and installed. Question, Where do I go to turn off the tab announce, the up/down announce and the space announce? Also, is there mouse keys that I can read the screen with? How do I go about reading the screen using JAWs? And finally, how do I set it to say the words after typing them instead of speaking each letter? Thanks Much de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where do I go?
open the utility menu and then settings. find keyboard then keyboard label manager. then go to each key and press the space bar on them to mute them. you have to do this with all the keys you want muted. -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: where do I go? Hi there PEOPLE! Just got JAWs downloaded and installed. Question, Where do I go to turn off the tab announce, the up/down announce and the space announce? Also, is there mouse keys that I can read the screen with? How do I go about reading the screen using JAWs? And finally, how do I set it to say the words after typing them instead of speaking each letter? Thanks Much de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where do I go?
Hi Jim: OK. To answer your question about the mouse keys, you have to go into JAWS Cursor mode. If you have a keyboard with a numberpad, press the numpad minus key. Yoou can read the document by pressing JAWSKey+ down arrow. The JAWSKey is either the numpad insert key, if you have a numberpad, or the capslock key. I forget whre you set it, so I'm not much help there. I cannot answer your other questions. Kevin Huber On 5/18/17, Jim via Talk wrote: > Hi there PEOPLE! > > Just got JAWs downloaded and installed. Question, Where do I go to turn > off the tab announce, the up/down announce and the space announce? Also, > is there mouse keys that I can read the screen with? How do I go about > reading the screen using JAWs? And finally, how do I set it to say the > words after typing them instead of speaking each letter? Thanks Much de > > . > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where do I go?
Hi there PEOPLE! Just got JAWs downloaded and installed. Question, Where do I go to turn off the tab announce, the up/down announce and the space announce? Also, is there mouse keys that I can read the screen with? How do I go about reading the screen using JAWs? And finally, how do I set it to say the words after typing them instead of speaking each letter? Thanks Much de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Choosing From Where Speech Comes
Georges You'll need to be using a different sound device for your speech. Then you can direct it to that device, with headphones coming out of it, via the synthesizer setting dialogue. Select the speech synth, and tab to the combo box which lists the available sound devices. -- Reg On Wed, 10 May 2017 07:08:08 -0400 Georges Zeinoun via Talk wrote: > Is there a way in Window-Eyes to redirect speech to come through the > headphone jack instead from the pc-speaker like in NVDA and JAWS? If yes how > to do it? > > -- Georges Zeinoun > Timmerv?gen6A, 541 63 Sk?vdeSWEDEN > TEL: +46500482929 > E-Mail: g.zayn...@telia.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/regwebb%40btinternet.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Choosing From Where Speech Comes
Is there a way in Window-Eyes to redirect speech to come through the headphone jack instead from the pc-speaker like in NVDA and JAWS? If yes how to do it? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv?gen6A, 541 63 Sk?vdeSWEDEN TEL: +46500482929 E-Mail: g.zayn...@telia.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where are window-eyes sounds stored by default?
you have to use the sounds in control panel. looke for wineyes sounds. but you have to search for the wave files. c:\program files x86\gwmicro\wineyes. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:40 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: where are window-eyes sounds stored by default? I want to change my sound scheme, but my other scheme doesn't have the window-eyes start / stop, and other 4 sounds in it. Where are they stored when WE is installed? - Curtis Delzer, HS. WB6HEF San Bernardino, CA --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where are window-eyes sounds stored by default?
I want to change my sound scheme, but my other scheme doesn't have the window-eyes start / stop, and other 4 sounds in it. Where are they stored when WE is installed? - Curtis Delzer, HS. WB6HEF San Bernardino, CA --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: where to change voice prompt in skype
On the Skype forums, people are complaining that Microsoft removed custom greetings. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of tt8 via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:33 PM Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: where to change voice prompt in skype lost my voice answering skype call, trying to find where to change voice prompt in skype where did it go? f ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where to change voice prompt in skype
lost my voice answering skype call, trying to find where to change voice prompt in skype where did it go? f ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
I don't usually engage in political views here, but I'm sure whoever said Trump was a sociopath is being extremely unfair. Are you sure it's only socio? Kim Lingo ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
I listened to and there is indeed no menschen about Window-Eyes and its future. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:25 AM To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? I listened, there's no mention of we or it's future. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 24, 2017 8:16 AM, "Russ Kiehne via Talk" wrote: > I did run across the following podcast. I haven't listened to it as of > yet. I hope someone asks the VFO group about the future of window-eyes at > CSUN next week? > > In news from VFO, FSCast Episode #137 features news about Freedom > Scientific's presence at next week's CSUN conference and lots of talk about > promised future developments: > https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast > > > -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:07 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not > VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed commentators?
It _is_ as bad as you think, and they _are_ out to get you. Kim Lingo -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:25 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? I listened, there's no mention of we or it's future. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 24, 2017 8:16 AM, "Russ Kiehne via Talk" wrote: I did run across the following podcast. I haven't listened to it as of yet. I hope someone asks the VFO group about the future of window-eyes at CSUN next week? In news from VFO, FSCast Episode #137 features news about Freedom Scientific's presence at next week's CSUN conference and lots of talk about promised future developments: https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:07 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Where are the informed comentators? Hi all. List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - hit delete "now." But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this access technology market place. I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access technology. Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/banjopapa03%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
well, one session with fusion and a couple of zoomtext 11 ones but nothing at all about window-eyes itself On 02/24/2017 9:16 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: I did run across the following podcast. I haven't listened to it as of yet. I hope someone asks the VFO group about the future of window-eyes at CSUN next week? In news from VFO, FSCast Episode #137 features news about Freedom Scientific's presence at next week's CSUN conference and lots of talk about promised future developments: https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:07 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Where are the informed comentators? Hi all. List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - hit delete "now." But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this access technology market place. I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access technology. Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/admin%40screenreview.org. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
I listened, there's no mention of we or it's future. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 24, 2017 8:16 AM, "Russ Kiehne via Talk" wrote: > I did run across the following podcast. I haven't listened to it as of > yet. I hope someone asks the VFO group about the future of window-eyes at > CSUN next week? > > In news from VFO, FSCast Episode #137 features news about Freedom > Scientific's presence at next week's CSUN conference and lots of talk about > promised future developments: > https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast > > > -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:07 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not > VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
I did run across the following podcast. I haven't listened to it as of yet. I hope someone asks the VFO group about the future of window-eyes at CSUN next week? In news from VFO, FSCast Episode #137 features news about Freedom Scientific's presence at next week's CSUN conference and lots of talk about promised future developments: https://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:07 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Where are the informed comentators? Hi all. List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - hit delete "now." But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this access technology market place. I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access technology. Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
Hi: A lot of folks swear by JAWS simply because they'vee always used it and it has done what they need. I bought WE because it did what I wanted, was cheaper, and I liked the licensing model, e.g. they did not use copy protection, meaning they trusted me, as a user, not to give copies away to someone else. I have respected that trust. I have used JAWS at my previous job, and, apart from learning the differences between the products, had no serious issues with either one. There are things one product does better than the other, but, over all, I can work with either one. I do like Window-Eyes' approach to screen review better than JAWS', because, in JAWS, you have to switch from PC cursor to JAWS cursor to do any kind of screen review. Window-Eyes, on the other hand, expects you to use the separate arrow keys to do actual movement, but, the numeric pad to do any reviewing of the screen. If you are in JAWS, and are using the JAWS cursor and try to use the separate set of arrow keys to move around a document or Web page, things do not work as expected, because you haven't gone back to PC Cursor. The JAWS method of things seems to harken back to the days of the old PC keyboard without the separate arrow keys, where the arrow keys were in conjunction with the numpad. But, if it's all you're used to, you know it anyway and work with it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:12 PM To: Andre ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Sky Mundell' Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Something I've always wondered, anecdotal, but I know Jaws users who swear by Jaws. Why? Are they all ignorant? I don't have any plans to replace my WE with Jaws, but I bet if I had joined a Jaws list, I'd encounter blind consumers who have little positive to say about WE. So I'm asking, WE users to state why Jaws is terrible. I'm not interested in hearing about bad customer service or a lower price (I purchased WE because it was cheaper). I would like someone to address only the two products. On 2/23/2017 4:48 PM, Andre via Talk wrote: > I haven't said too much, but as someone who's been a customer of GW > Micro since 1990, my college days, I feel I should also be able to weigh in. > Simply I don't believe VFO cares about us Window-Eyes users whatsoever. > Therefore, unless the deal they might invent better work for me. > Otherwise they won't get my business as it shold be for all of us. We > vote with our wallets as do oher consumers. Obviously they could care less what we think. > Terrible PR is begotten by a lack of compassion or concern. You don't > get rid of 99% of the staff who helped make the product great and > expect to continue that great product line. That's the height of > errogance or stupidity, and that's how you destroy your competition. > You create a situation such that there is no competition. Gw Micro > merged with AISquared who then really sold out to be gobbled up by > VFO. It makes me sad. No doubt Doug knows exactly what's going on and > what the plan is for Window-Eyes, but unfortunately he isn't an > independent business owner any more. He now works for VFO and must > abide by VFO policies. I don't fault Doug though for making what he > felt was his best business decision. There are great reasons most of > us on this list stuck with Window-Eyes rather than to migrate to JAWS. > But why list them when they would fall on deaf ears - ears that don't care to listen. > > In this case, we can't vote at the polls since we have no vote that > would count at that table. We must vote with our wallets. Vote with > our voices on blogs. Vote simply by not supporting (if possible) any > future products produced by VFO. That may not be as possible as I > would like since they have eliminated much of the competition thereby > destroying much of the consumer's choice. This country through its > laws was supposed to support especially minority groups being > oppressed (and oppressed isn't even as strong a word than the one I > wanted to use). But anyway does any one really feel supported by > AISquared which really know doesn't exist now? It's all VFO. A real > merger would allow for the existence of AISquared, but it seems to be > apparent to me that this was nothing other than a complete buyout. > Hopefully there will be true alternatives to JAWS. I know NVDA is out > there, Narrator and Voiceover for the Mac. But Narrator and NVDA would > really have to come up a lot to even get anywhere close to where > Window-Eyes was. We'll have to lend some support to the NVDA > developers via
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
What made you think they ever expected to continue the window-eyes product. I don't believe that was ever in the cards. Why on earth would they sell two screen readers. Of course they'll sell you current version of window-eyes, and they'll likely sell you a s m a. If you're willing to give them money, why not. Freedom's customer support has been terrible over the years, so no jaws for me. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andre via Talk wrote: I haven't said too much, but as someone who's been a customer of GW Micro since 1990, my college days, I feel I should also be able to weigh in. Simply I don't believe VFO cares about us Window-Eyes users whatsoever. Therefore, unless the deal they might invent better work for me. Otherwise they won't get my business as it shold be for all of us. We vote with our wallets as do oher consumers. Obviously they could care less what we think. Terrible PR is begotten by a lack of compassion or concern. You don't get rid of 99% of the staff who helped make the product great and expect to continue that great product line. That's the height of errogance or stupidity, and that's how you destroy your competition. You create a situation such that there is no competition. Gw Micro merged with AISquared who then really sold out to be gobbled up by VFO. It makes me sad. No doubt Doug knows exactly what's going on and what the plan is for Window-Eyes, but unfortunately he isn't an independent business owner any more. He now works for VFO and must abide by VFO policies. I don't fault Doug though for making what he felt was his best business decision. There are great reasons most of us on this list stuck with Window-Eyes rather than to migrate to JAWS. But why list them when they would fall on deaf ears - ears that don't care to listen. In this case, we can't vote at the polls since we have no vote that would count at that table. We must vote with our wallets. Vote with our voices on blogs. Vote simply by not supporting (if possible) any future products produced by VFO. That may not be as possible as I would like since they have eliminated much of the competition thereby destroying much of the consumer's choice. This country through its laws was supposed to support especially minority groups being oppressed (and oppressed isn't even as strong a word than the one I wanted to use). But anyway does any one really feel supported by AISquared which really know doesn't exist now? It's all VFO. A real merger would allow for the existence of AISquared, but it seems to be apparent to me that this was nothing other than a complete buyout. Hopefully there will be true alternatives to JAWS. I know NVDA is out there, Narrator and Voiceover for the Mac. But Narrator and NVDA would really have to come up a lot to even get anywhere close to where Window-Eyes was. We'll have to lend some support to the NVDA developers via donations. We all have to make our own business decisions and what works best for each of us. There isn't another company like GW Micro was. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:04 PM To: 'Dave Bahr'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? Did you ever use Window-Eyes in high school, elementary school, middle school? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:50 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age 10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader day in and day out warranted some sort of response. First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said, point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with me and we figured it out." The support person's response was, "those guys aren't here anymore, so ..." So, it sounds like they have laid off the programmers and devs of window-eyes, holding onto the most basic personelle to answer the most basic of questions. Mine was a big curve ball, at least that's the way it felt. So, we'll see, I intend to hold on until the last because I cannot afford JFW, my Voc
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Yes, all three of them. By middle school I was teaching others how to use it and got a 96 on the certification exam a few years back, have been helping in the beta cycle since, version 5 at least. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Sky Mundell" wrote: Did you ever use Window-Eyes in high school, elementary school, middle school? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:50 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age 10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader day in and day out warranted some sort of response. First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said, point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with me and we figured it out." The support person's response was, "those guys aren't here anymore, so ..." So, it sounds like they have laid off the programmers and devs of window-eyes, holding onto the most basic personelle to answer the most basic of questions. Mine was a big curve ball, at least that's the way it felt. So, we'll see, I intend to hold on until the last because I cannot afford JFW, my Voc Rehab case is closed, and not sure about learning a new screen reader. Or then there's NVDA, free, but confusing for me. Maybe it's easier than I think it is to learn the structure. All for now, just my quick thoughts. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Loy Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade. The zt we combo works so well for me. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" wrote: > I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows > what they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the > current version of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next > release will be powered by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it > works great with JAWS but no mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 > would work with WE as well as ZT 10.1, the support person said > management had not told them. Then later I got an email that said it should. > - Original Message - > From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - > not VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. &g
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Enterprise compliance? Hmm, silly play on words! It's all good; after all, a secretary, unless such a one works for government, is an Administrative Assistant. Got to love that! When GW Micro was alive and well, the company always went overboard to help me make Window-Eyes work with whatever app I needed for work purposes. This is one huge reason why I prefer Window-Eyes over Jaws! Another reason: I don't have to deal with a DONGLE and I could install Window-Eyes on more than two or three computers. The SMA were generous and, back in its hay days, an LTO was in place. There also wasn't any price differential between a standard and a pro license. In that regard, I did not feel cheated! But, this is reality: Whatever CSUN or CMoon may say in March--whatever ATIA may conjure--whatever the various Conventions may whisper in my ears--I remain ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN beyond allthings else that Window-Eyes is no longer dying, it is dead and I am just skinning it to smitherings for purposes of scientific experiment. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
I think that both jaws and window-eyes are really great screen readers. The thing you need to take in to consideration is what things does jaws do that window-eyes can't do. And the same thing when it comes to window-eyes. I have used the window-eyes for office version and while I noticed some differences with window-eyes and jaws, I noticed that when I used jaws and when I used the mail app for windows10 I noticed that the inbox would focus with jaws. But when using the mail app for windows 10 with Window-eyes the mailbox would not focus. While I asked about this on the list when it came to window-eyes and the mail app, I still haven't emailed aisquared support on this issue, which I will do after this message. Kenny Peyatt jr. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:12 PM To: Andre; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Sky Mundell' Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Something I've always wondered, anecdotal, but I know Jaws users who swear by Jaws. Why? Are they all ignorant? I don't have any plans to replace my WE with Jaws, but I bet if I had joined a Jaws list, I'd encounter blind consumers who have little positive to say about WE. So I'm asking, WE users to state why Jaws is terrible. I'm not interested in hearing about bad customer service or a lower price (I purchased WE because it was cheaper). I would like someone to address only the two products. On 2/23/2017 4:48 PM, Andre via Talk wrote: > I haven't said too much, but as someone who's been a customer of GW Micro > since 1990, my college days, I feel I should also be able to weigh in. > Simply I don't believe VFO cares about us Window-Eyes users whatsoever. > Therefore, unless the deal they might invent better work for me. Otherwise > they won't get my business as it shold be for all of us. We vote with our > wallets as do oher consumers. Obviously they could care less what we think. > Terrible PR is begotten by a lack of compassion or concern. You don't get > rid of 99% of the staff who helped make the product great and expect to > continue that great product line. That's the height of errogance or > stupidity, and that's how you destroy your competition. You create a > situation such that there is no competition. Gw Micro merged with AISquared > who then really sold out to be gobbled up by VFO. It makes me sad. No doubt > Doug knows exactly what's going on and what the plan is for Window-Eyes, but > unfortunately he isn't an independent business owner any more. He now works > for VFO and must abide by VFO policies. I don't fault Doug though for making > what he felt was his best business decision. There are great reasons most of > us on this list stuck with Window-Eyes rather than to migrate to JAWS. But > why list them when they would fall on deaf ears - ears that don't care to > listen. > > In this case, we can't vote at the polls since we have no vote that would > count at that table. We must vote with our wallets. Vote with our voices on > blogs. Vote simply by not supporting (if possible) any future products > produced by VFO. That may not be as possible as I would like since they have > eliminated much of the competition thereby destroying much of the consumer's > choice. This country through its laws was supposed to support especially > minority groups being oppressed (and oppressed isn't even as strong a word > than the one I wanted to use). But anyway does any one really feel supported > by AISquared which really know doesn't exist now? It's all VFO. A real > merger would allow for the existence of AISquared, but it seems to be > apparent to me that this was nothing other than a complete buyout. Hopefully > there will be true alternatives to JAWS. I know NVDA is out there, Narrator > and Voiceover for the Mac. But Narrator and NVDA would really have to come > up a lot to even get anywhere close to where Window-Eyes was. We'll have to > lend some support to the NVDA developers via donations. We all have to make > our own business decisions and what works best for each of us. There isn't > another company like GW Micro was. > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:04 PM > To: 'Dave Bahr'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? > > Did you ever use Window-Eyes in high school, elementary school, middle > school? > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@l
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
Something I've always wondered, anecdotal, but I know Jaws users who swear by Jaws. Why? Are they all ignorant? I don't have any plans to replace my WE with Jaws, but I bet if I had joined a Jaws list, I'd encounter blind consumers who have little positive to say about WE. So I'm asking, WE users to state why Jaws is terrible. I'm not interested in hearing about bad customer service or a lower price (I purchased WE because it was cheaper). I would like someone to address only the two products. On 2/23/2017 4:48 PM, Andre via Talk wrote: > I haven't said too much, but as someone who's been a customer of GW Micro > since 1990, my college days, I feel I should also be able to weigh in. > Simply I don't believe VFO cares about us Window-Eyes users whatsoever. > Therefore, unless the deal they might invent better work for me. Otherwise > they won't get my business as it shold be for all of us. We vote with our > wallets as do oher consumers. Obviously they could care less what we think. > Terrible PR is begotten by a lack of compassion or concern. You don't get > rid of 99% of the staff who helped make the product great and expect to > continue that great product line. That's the height of errogance or > stupidity, and that's how you destroy your competition. You create a > situation such that there is no competition. Gw Micro merged with AISquared > who then really sold out to be gobbled up by VFO. It makes me sad. No doubt > Doug knows exactly what's going on and what the plan is for Window-Eyes, but > unfortunately he isn't an independent business owner any more. He now works > for VFO and must abide by VFO policies. I don't fault Doug though for making > what he felt was his best business decision. There are great reasons most of > us on this list stuck with Window-Eyes rather than to migrate to JAWS. But > why list them when they would fall on deaf ears - ears that don't care to > listen. > > In this case, we can't vote at the polls since we have no vote that would > count at that table. We must vote with our wallets. Vote with our voices on > blogs. Vote simply by not supporting (if possible) any future products > produced by VFO. That may not be as possible as I would like since they have > eliminated much of the competition thereby destroying much of the consumer's > choice. This country through its laws was supposed to support especially > minority groups being oppressed (and oppressed isn't even as strong a word > than the one I wanted to use). But anyway does any one really feel supported > by AISquared which really know doesn't exist now? It's all VFO. A real > merger would allow for the existence of AISquared, but it seems to be > apparent to me that this was nothing other than a complete buyout. Hopefully > there will be true alternatives to JAWS. I know NVDA is out there, Narrator > and Voiceover for the Mac. But Narrator and NVDA would really have to come > up a lot to even get anywhere close to where Window-Eyes was. We'll have to > lend some support to the NVDA developers via donations. We all have to make > our own business decisions and what works best for each of us. There isn't > another company like GW Micro was. > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:04 PM > To: 'Dave Bahr'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? > > Did you ever use Window-Eyes in high school, elementary school, middle > school? > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Bahr via Talk > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:50 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? > > I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has > literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age > 10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader > day in and day out warranted some sort of response. > > First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest > build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that > they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard > drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the > driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said, > point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with > me and we figured it out." The sup
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
Hello List, I was starting to feel status quo and then the topic came up again. The depressing thing is that it presents a sad reality. According to linkedin Aaron Smith works for VFO in a role called "enterprise Compliance." Not really sure what that is, but here is an interesting definition... deloitte.wsj.com/riskandcompliance/files/2013/07/EnterpriseCompliance.pdf f Result details Enterprise compliance is a coordinated approach to compliance spanning multiple businesses, organizational units, and geographies, enabled by people, processes, and technology. You can surf for even more interesting/scary definitions, but the thing I'm taking away is that VFO is looking out for their interests and definitely doesn't care about us. And I doubt they even care if we don't purchase Window-Eyes or jowls. The thing that annoys me is that VFO probably won't develop one more major upgrade for W-e which would give me an install disk for 9.5.4 and beyond. Since this recent fix was not a major upgrade they will send a disk for $20 probably or a link to the upgrade assuming you have an alternate screen reader or sighted assistance to install it. I guess you have to have an older disk, install it, then if it is earlier than the certificate issue install 9.5.4 that you have save to a (non-install) disk. fortunately I have W-E disks back to 7.5+-. When I spoke with the VFO ?support? person she said she gets lots of calls from W-e users. I'm guessing VFO is trying to figure out the best way to deal with a large group of displaced users. I suspect that in the narrow noncompetitive market they can do whatever they want and are just trying to assess the risks. I'm hoping that at C-sun people will be asking questions and that answers will appear on various lists or maybe even an announcement from VFO (not holding my breath). I'm hoping NVDA continues to improve for my win7 machine. Perhaps for win10 narrator will be like voiceover is to the mac. And since GW used to work with Microsoft, I wonder if the MS accessibility folks will try to include W-e features - one can hope. Brenda Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Loy Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade. The zt we combo works so well for me. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" wrote: I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows what they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the current version of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next release will be powered by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it works great with JAWS but no mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 would work with WE as well as ZT 10.1, the support person said management had not told them. Then later I got an email that said it should. - Original Message - From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM Subject: Where are the informed comentators? Hi all. List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - hit delete "now." But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this access technology market place. I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access technology. Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represen
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
I haven't said too much, but as someone who's been a customer of GW Micro since 1990, my college days, I feel I should also be able to weigh in. Simply I don't believe VFO cares about us Window-Eyes users whatsoever. Therefore, unless the deal they might invent better work for me. Otherwise they won't get my business as it shold be for all of us. We vote with our wallets as do oher consumers. Obviously they could care less what we think. Terrible PR is begotten by a lack of compassion or concern. You don't get rid of 99% of the staff who helped make the product great and expect to continue that great product line. That's the height of errogance or stupidity, and that's how you destroy your competition. You create a situation such that there is no competition. Gw Micro merged with AISquared who then really sold out to be gobbled up by VFO. It makes me sad. No doubt Doug knows exactly what's going on and what the plan is for Window-Eyes, but unfortunately he isn't an independent business owner any more. He now works for VFO and must abide by VFO policies. I don't fault Doug though for making what he felt was his best business decision. There are great reasons most of us on this list stuck with Window-Eyes rather than to migrate to JAWS. But why list them when they would fall on deaf ears - ears that don't care to listen. In this case, we can't vote at the polls since we have no vote that would count at that table. We must vote with our wallets. Vote with our voices on blogs. Vote simply by not supporting (if possible) any future products produced by VFO. That may not be as possible as I would like since they have eliminated much of the competition thereby destroying much of the consumer's choice. This country through its laws was supposed to support especially minority groups being oppressed (and oppressed isn't even as strong a word than the one I wanted to use). But anyway does any one really feel supported by AISquared which really know doesn't exist now? It's all VFO. A real merger would allow for the existence of AISquared, but it seems to be apparent to me that this was nothing other than a complete buyout. Hopefully there will be true alternatives to JAWS. I know NVDA is out there, Narrator and Voiceover for the Mac. But Narrator and NVDA would really have to come up a lot to even get anywhere close to where Window-Eyes was. We'll have to lend some support to the NVDA developers via donations. We all have to make our own business decisions and what works best for each of us. There isn't another company like GW Micro was. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:04 PM To: 'Dave Bahr'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? Did you ever use Window-Eyes in high school, elementary school, middle school? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:50 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age 10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader day in and day out warranted some sort of response. First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said, point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with me and we figured it out." The support person's response was, "those guys aren't here anymore, so ..." So, it sounds like they have laid off the programmers and devs of window-eyes, holding onto the most basic personelle to answer the most basic of questions. Mine was a big curve ball, at least that's the way it felt. So, we'll see, I intend to hold on until the last because I cannot afford JFW, my Voc Rehab case is closed, and not sure about learning a new screen reader. Or then there's NVDA, free, but confusing for me. Maybe it's easier than I think it is to learn the structure. All for now, just my quick thoughts. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Loy Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Plan
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
Did you ever use Window-Eyes in high school, elementary school, middle school? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:50 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Where are the informed comentators? I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age 10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader day in and day out warranted some sort of response. First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said, point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with me and we figured it out." The support person's response was, "those guys aren't here anymore, so ..." So, it sounds like they have laid off the programmers and devs of window-eyes, holding onto the most basic personelle to answer the most basic of questions. Mine was a big curve ball, at least that's the way it felt. So, we'll see, I intend to hold on until the last because I cannot afford JFW, my Voc Rehab case is closed, and not sure about learning a new screen reader. Or then there's NVDA, free, but confusing for me. Maybe it's easier than I think it is to learn the structure. All for now, just my quick thoughts. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Loy Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade. The zt we combo works so well for me. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" wrote: > I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows > what they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the > current version of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next > release will be powered by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it > works great with JAWS but no mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 > would work with WE as well as ZT 10.1, the support person said > management had not told them. Then later I got an email that said it should. > - Original Message - > From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - > not VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://l
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age 10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader day in and day out warranted some sort of response. First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said, point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with me and we figured it out." The support person's response was, "those guys aren't here anymore, so ..." So, it sounds like they have laid off the programmers and devs of window-eyes, holding onto the most basic personelle to answer the most basic of questions. Mine was a big curve ball, at least that's the way it felt. So, we'll see, I intend to hold on until the last because I cannot afford JFW, my Voc Rehab case is closed, and not sure about learning a new screen reader. Or then there's NVDA, free, but confusing for me. Maybe it's easier than I think it is to learn the structure. All for now, just my quick thoughts. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Loy Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade. The zt we combo works so well for me. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" wrote: > I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows > what they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the > current version of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next > release will be powered by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it > works great with JAWS but no mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 > would work with WE as well as ZT 10.1, the support person said > management had not told them. Then later I got an email that said it should. > - Original Message - > From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - > not VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views
RE: Where are the informed comentators?
That's great how the ZT/WE fusion product works well for you. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:08 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Loy Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators? Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade. The zt we combo works so well for me. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" wrote: > I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows what > they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the current version > of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next release will be powered > by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it works great with JAWS but no > mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 would work with WE as well as ZT > 10.1, the support person said management had not told them. Then later I > got an email that said it should. > - Original Message - > From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not > VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade. The zt we combo works so well for me. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" wrote: > I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows what > they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the current version > of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next release will be powered > by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it works great with JAWS but no > mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 would work with WE as well as ZT > 10.1, the support person said management had not told them. Then later I > got an email that said it should. > - Original Message - > From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM > Subject: Where are the informed comentators? > > > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed > adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with > leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is > happening in this access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with > the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of > rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other > software" option that people have referred to when talking about > telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a > payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to > have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not > VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/ > private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows what they are going to do with Window Eyes. I was told that the current version of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next release will be powered by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it works great with JAWS but no mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 would work with WE as well as ZT 10.1, the support person said management had not told them. Then later I got an email that said it should. - Original Message - From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM Subject: Where are the informed comentators? Hi all. List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - hit delete "now." But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this access technology market place. I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access technology. Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where are the informed comentators?
Some of this might come during csun. Zt fusion's future is a little clearer, I'm sure window-eyes future will be spoken soon. It's not looking like a good one but a answer has gotta come soon. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Feb 23, 2017 1:07 PM, "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" wrote: > Hi all. > > List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question > as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - > hit delete "now." > > But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of > critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive > technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and > knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this > access technology market place. > > I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the > executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's > behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and > development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access > technology. > > Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and > the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating > Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option > that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say > "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me > know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS > Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. > > Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. > > Vaughan. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o > ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l > istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p > rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Where are the informed comentators?
Hi all. List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question as to the future of Window-Eyes. For those who do not like this thred - hit delete "now." But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of critical, informed insider comment. We are in need of an informed adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is happening in this access technology market place. I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with the executives of VFO. Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access technology. Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of rejuvenating Window-eyes. If the intentions were different, the"other software" option that people have referred to when talking about telephone support would say "Window-Eyes. VFO has not contacted me as a payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to have me spend more money. FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - not VFO. Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where is the search box
The Windows key should place you in the Cortana search box. If it doesn't then something is wrong. From that search box all I have to do is Shift-Tab once to Start, and arrow down to open the list of programs. Then I can press a single letter to go to that group of programs. But with that having had been said, I went through a lot of house cleaning on the start menu in Windows 10. For the most part it was in settings, Personalization, Start. I pretty much turned everything off. The privacy settings are also in the settings window. Open the settings window with Windows-I. If you're running the Windows 10 anniversary update you'll come in on a search box. Shift-Tab once to move up to the list view and then arrow right/left through the main categories. Hth, Tom On 11/24/2016 8:02 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote: Hi: Previousley, in windows 10 and win eyes latelst, I could find the edit box to do a search. Now, I can't find it or anything close I thought pressing the windows key would bring it up I can find the start button in the task bar but can't open it I would like to find the privacy settings with searching but cannot find anywhere to search. This confusion seems to be with the last two updates. Also, previousley, somewhere you could find a key or keystrokes and find a list of your programmes in a list Hope I have not confused the issue, but, windows 10 has gone screwy for me. Don ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where is the search box
Hi: Previousley, in windows 10 and win eyes latelst, I could find the edit box to do a search. Now, I can't find it or anything close I thought pressing the windows key would bring it up I can find the start button in the task bar but can't open it I would like to find the privacy settings with searching but cannot find anywhere to search. This confusion seems to be with the last two updates. Also, previousley, somewhere you could find a key or keystrokes and find a list of your programmes in a list Hope I have not confused the issue, but, windows 10 has gone screwy for me. Don ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: where did they go?
Hi Jim, I can't speak to the Chess game, but if you look in the start menu, look under the M group for Microsoft Solitaire Collection. Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:00 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: where did they go? Hi there FOLKS! I received the windows 10 update and it appears to be working very well for the most part. Question, after getting this update, two games that I play rather frequently are now gone not only from the desktop, but they seem to have completely disappeared from my system. They are the default solitaire game and one other called ches titans. Since the only real change to my system was the update would anyone happen to know where they might have went? Yes, I checked the recycle ben and no they weren't there. I even went as far as to check for their particular folders and again couldn't find them. Any ideas on what I might try next..? THANKS MUCH! de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where did they go?
Hi there FOLKS! I received the windows 10 update and it appears to be working very well for the most part. Question, after getting this update, two games that I play rather frequently are now gone not only from the desktop, but they seem to have completely disappeared from my system. They are the default solitaire game and one other called ches titans. Since the only real change to my system was the update would anyone happen to know where they might have went? Yes, I checked the recycle ben and no they weren't there. I even went as far as to check for their particular folders and again couldn't find them. Any ideas on what I might try next..? THANKS MUCH! de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Where?
Hi there FOLKS! Sorry about the limitted subject, but I just received the Win10 upgrade yesterday and for the most part love it! Question, I had a solitaire game as well as a chess game on my desktop before the upgrade. Since then those two games have been missing from my desktop and I am totally unable to find them anywhere else on my system..? Just wondered if anyone might have any ideas on where they may have gone? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! THANKS much! de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10
Hi Robin, Press these keystrokes, one at a time: Alt, v, y, o This opens the multi-tab Folder Options dialog you'll remember from Windows 7. The View tab has the Apply to all folders button you need. Smile Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:22 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10 I've figured this out in the past, but cannot find it in Windows 10. I've opened Windows Explorer, gotten the layout the way I want, but cannot find where to tell it to have all folders mirror the one I just did. A hint please? Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance 720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10
I've figured this out in the past, but cannot find it in Windows 10. I've opened Windows Explorer, gotten the layout the way I want, but cannot find where to tell it to have all folders mirror the one I just did. A hint please? Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance 720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member NYSE/FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to dnereque...@key.com <mailto:dnereque...@key.com>with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Where did my jump list go?
Wacha hear is just wacha get. There is no longer anything called a jump list. On 8/20/2016 9:04 PM, Martha via Talk wrote: Hi, folks. After the update of Windows 10 to the Anniversary version, when I hit the windows key, then arrow down to my most used list, I hear the programs that I expect to hear. However, I am no longer hearing "has jump list". Has anyone else experienced this? Martha I thought ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Where did my jump list go?
Hi, folks. After the update of Windows 10 to the Anniversary version, when I hit the windows key, then arrow down to my most used list, I hear the programs that I expect to hear. However, I am no longer hearing "has jump list". Has anyone else experienced this? Martha I thought ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
a little off-topic, but not sure where else to write
I have a really old computer game made by a probably now defunct company called BSC Games called Hunter. I have been able to set it up on my new computer, but I am not able to register it. I’m also noticing that the left and right arrow keys work in reverse. Without registering it, I can’t get beyond the first four levels, and it’s only good for fifteen days. When I attempt to go to their web site, I don’t think there’s anything there now. Am I out of luck re registration, or is there a different place to do this? No really big deal. I certainly have enough other stuff to do. It is, however, kind of fun to play it once in a while, and I’d like to try it on my newest machine. Any ideas? Kim Lingo ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: where the we951upgrade-normal.exe is located.
Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:16 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: where the we951upgrade-normal.exe is located. for those that would like to know: when you use the check for upgrades from the w e control panel/help pull down download the w e upgrades they are downloaded on to your computer in the temp folder. c:\users\your account name\appdata\local\temp folder. the file this time is called we951upgrade-normal.exe if you want to search for it. so when w e starts the upgrade the file has already been downloaded to the above location. you could stop the installation so you can install it later if you want. before i run the upgrade i copy the file to a new location so i will have it incase i have to re install it. i am sure this is the same file you will get if you go directly to the web page and download it from there. but in this case you have to log in before the file can be downloaded. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: where the we951upgrade-normal.exe is located.
You can go directly to the temp folder by opening the Run dialog with Windows-R, type %Temp%, and press Enter. Note the percent signs enclosing the word temp. Hth, Tom On 7/27/2016 2:16 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: for those that would like to know: when you use the check for upgrades from the w e control panel/help pull down download the w e upgrades they are downloaded on to your computer in the temp folder. c:\users\your account name\appdata\local\temp folder. the file this time is called we951upgrade-normal.exe if you want to search for it. so when w e starts the upgrade the file has already been downloaded to the above location. you could stop the installation so you can install it later if you want. before i run the upgrade i copy the file to a new location so i will have it incase i have to re install it. i am sure this is the same file you will get if you go directly to the web page and download it from there. but in this case you have to log in before the file can be downloaded. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
where the we951upgrade-normal.exe is located.
for those that would like to know: when you use the check for upgrades from the w e control panel/help pull down download the w e upgrades they are downloaded on to your computer in the temp folder. c:\users\your account name\appdata\local\temp folder. the file this time is called we951upgrade-normal.exe if you want to search for it. so when w e starts the upgrade the file has already been downloaded to the above location. you could stop the installation so you can install it later if you want. before i run the upgrade i copy the file to a new location so i will have it incase i have to re install it. i am sure this is the same file you will get if you go directly to the web page and download it from there. but in this case you have to log in before the file can be downloaded. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I think that the calls being discussed here are the calls purporting to come from Microsoft, not Talks. These so-called Microsoft Technical Department calls have been happening for a number of years now. If, indeed, you are now getting calls purporting to be from Talks then that is a new scam. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of george basioli via Talk Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 4:27 PM To: 'Kevin Huber'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Dave' Subject: RE: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Wel here is my thought, I got a few of these calls and I just figured it out the other day. The caller said he was calling from talks tech support and my computer called them. Well I think since the merge of g I squared and f v o there has been a breech of information in theprocess and this seems the only list people aretalking about these phone calls. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 07:46 To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hi Dave: These calls have nothing to do with your system. They pick random phonenumbers and they call them. I used to get quite a few calls from them, but not any more. I am not sure why, but it may have something to do with the last caller. He had been calling our number for days and we would just hang up. Finally, on one call, I asked what company he worked for. When he said "microsoft" I just told him he was lying and hung up. Kevin Huber On 6/27/16, Dave via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling > me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have > all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. > > I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > them calling me. > > Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not > so. > > I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still > these folks keep calling. > > Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? > > I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need > entertainment. > > But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when > they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at > times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. > > Anyone have good advice? > > Grumpy Dave > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gbmagoo%40gmai l.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Wel here is my thought, I got a few of these calls and I just figured it out the other day. The caller said he was calling from talks tech support and my computer called them. Well I think since the merge of g I squared and f v o there has been a breech of information in theprocess and this seems the only list people aretalking about these phone calls. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 07:46 To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hi Dave: These calls have nothing to do with your system. They pick random phonenumbers and they call them. I used to get quite a few calls from them, but not any more. I am not sure why, but it may have something to do with the last caller. He had been calling our number for days and we would just hang up. Finally, on one call, I asked what company he worked for. When he said "microsoft" I just told him he was lying and hung up. Kevin Huber On 6/27/16, Dave via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling > me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have > all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. > > I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > them calling me. > > Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not > so. > > I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still > these folks keep calling. > > Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? > > I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need > entertainment. > > But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when > they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at > times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. > > Anyone have good advice? > > Grumpy Dave > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gbmagoo%40gmai l.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Hi Dave: These calls have nothing to do with your system. They pick random phonenumbers and they call them. I used to get quite a few calls from them, but not any more. I am not sure why, but it may have something to do with the last caller. He had been calling our number for days and we would just hang up. Finally, on one call, I asked what company he worked for. When he said "microsoft" I just told him he was lying and hung up. Kevin Huber On 6/27/16, Dave via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me > they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all > been > from people with thick accents from some far away place. > > I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > them calling me. > > Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not > so. > > I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these > folks keep calling. > > Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? > > I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need > entertainment. > > But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when > they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at > times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. > > Anyone have good advice? > > Grumpy Dave > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
over seas callers usually use d s l lines so they are vertually untraceable by most consumers. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:51 PM To: Peter Russillo ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever The phone numbers that show up usually don't mean anything - Original Message - From: Peter Russillo via Talk To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hi. My advice: call the Federal Trade Commision and REPORT IT, REPORT IT, REPORT IT! If your caller ID gives a phone number, note it down and tell the Trade Commission that in their complaint system, NEVER, EVER, EVER!! play along with those birds; they're scammers out to get any poor schmoe who plays along with their calls. They must be stopped; that's my 2 cents worth; thanks. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:36 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Dave, When you played along with them, you probably got upgraded to their "Call more often" list. If you just start hanging up on them, they will probably downgrade you to a "Call now and then" list and eventually they will stop. I think it is unlikely that they are calling because they get notified when you start your system, it is probably just coincidence, but it can't hurt to do a full virus and malware scan if you feel strongly that they are somehow being notified. They are going to try to call when they think they are most likely going to get a human being answering. In general, I don't play along with any scammers or spammers, even when it is tempting. At the very least, you may indicate to them that you are worth contacting again, and you could give information to them without meaning to. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:23 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/plrussillo%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Yes, I can remember them claiming they were from Microsoft. Pam. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:59 PM To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever When I first got these calls they said they were from Microsoft but with later calls they did not make that claim. If you let them have a remote connection they will install bad things on your computer then charge you to remove them. On 6/27/2016 6:49 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I got a call from t those guys and they said my computer had viruses. *laughs8 Darrell Bowles Assistive Technology Trainer Pelissippi State Community College 8656613917 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of kitty hevener via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:48 PM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever I think my best one is I said how can my computer need servicing when I don't even own one lol! -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:26 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, Looks like most here have had to deal with these guys as well. Some of your responses were quite good!A couple of them had me laughing. Had me wishing they would call me back again so I could pull the same stunts. I did respond one time where I completely had the guy speechless. Idiot Caller: Hello this is Windows Technical Support. We have detected a problem with your computer. Grumpy Dave: Sorry, but I use an Apple System. Apples do not run MS Windows. The guy didn't know what to say to that one. Actually, I think Apple systems can run MS Windows, but if you have an Apple, why put MS Windows on it? Well, I can see needing to run some software that is only made for Windows. But even then, I think I would just buy a cheap MS Windows System, rather than having a Dual-Boot Mac. But thanks for the feed back for the question. I am not as concerned about these calls now. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/khevener%40ear thlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12505 - Release Date: 06/27/16 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
In the u.S. we have the Consumer Protection Agency or whatever it's called. I just inform them that i know they are a fraud and to cease with the robo calls and that I am going to report them. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Or get really, really rude, then hang up. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadise777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I seriously doubt that it means anything, but my calls have come from a New York area code. On 6/27/2016 8:15 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: Hi THERE! I also keep my PC running 24/7 and have never received any types of calls from any place calling themselves technical Support. Wonder where these calls might be originating from? Just curious..? Catch Ya All Later! de Jim Wohlgamuth>. On 27-Jun-16 18:38, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: No it has absolutely nothing to do with you starting, or restarting your pc. Nowadays, I keep mine on 24/7 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. On 6/27/2016 4:37 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: I get these as well, I just hang up on them. I don't think it has anything to do with you starting up your computer. - Original Message - From: Dave via Talk To: A I Squared Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
you need to handle a capcha for that. - Curtis Delzer, HS. K6VFO San Bernardino, CA On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 16:25:59 -0500 Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: > I haven't actually tried this yet, but I'm thinking about it. Paste the url > below into your web browser and check it out. I'm not sure it works on cell > phones yet or with wireless companies but definitely on land lines. > > https://www.nomorobo.com/ > > -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:22 PM > To: A I Squared Support > Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever > > Hello, > > On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me > they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been > from people with thick accents from some far away place. > > I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > them calling me. > > Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not > so. > > I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these > folks keep calling. > > Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? > > I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need > entertainment. > > But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when > they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at > times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. > > Anyone have good advice? > > Grumpy Dave > > > -- Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
it is, simply bull sh*t, pure and simple. - Curtis Delzer, HS. K6VFO San Bernardino, CA On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 13:22:42 -0700 Dave via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me > they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been > from people with thick accents from some far away place. > > I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > them calling me. > > Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not > so. > > I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these > folks keep calling. > > Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? > > I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need > entertainment. > > But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when > they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at > times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. > > Anyone have good advice? > > Grumpy Dave > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I just tell them I have an apple product and hang up. -- David Hoff Jr ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
The phone numbers that show up usually don't mean anything - Original Message - From: Peter Russillo via Talk To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hi. My advice: call the Federal Trade Commision and REPORT IT, REPORT IT, REPORT IT! If your caller ID gives a phone number, note it down and tell the Trade Commission that in their complaint system, NEVER, EVER, EVER!! play along with those birds; they're scammers out to get any poor schmoe who plays along with their calls. They must be stopped; that's my 2 cents worth; thanks. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:36 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Dave, When you played along with them, you probably got upgraded to their "Call more often" list. If you just start hanging up on them, they will probably downgrade you to a "Call now and then" list and eventually they will stop. I think it is unlikely that they are calling because they get notified when you start your system, it is probably just coincidence, but it can't hurt to do a full virus and malware scan if you feel strongly that they are somehow being notified. They are going to try to call when they think they are most likely going to get a human being answering. In general, I don't play along with any scammers or spammers, even when it is tempting. At the very least, you may indicate to them that you are worth contacting again, and you could give information to them without meaning to. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:23 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/plrussillo%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Hi. My advice: call the Federal Trade Commision and REPORT IT, REPORT IT, REPORT IT! If your caller ID gives a phone number, note it down and tell the Trade Commission that in their complaint system, NEVER, EVER, EVER!! play along with those birds; they're scammers out to get any poor schmoe who plays along with their calls. They must be stopped; that's my 2 cents worth; thanks. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:36 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Dave, When you played along with them, you probably got upgraded to their "Call more often" list. If you just start hanging up on them, they will probably downgrade you to a "Call now and then" list and eventually they will stop. I think it is unlikely that they are calling because they get notified when you start your system, it is probably just coincidence, but it can't hurt to do a full virus and malware scan if you feel strongly that they are somehow being notified. They are going to try to call when they think they are most likely going to get a human being answering. In general, I don't play along with any scammers or spammers, even when it is tempting. At the very least, you may indicate to them that you are worth contacting again, and you could give information to them without meaning to. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:23 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/plrussillo%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Hi THERE! I also keep my PC running 24/7 and have never received any types of calls from any place calling themselves technical Support. Wonder where these calls might be originating from? Just curious..? Catch Ya All Later! de Jim Wohlgamuth>. On 27-Jun-16 18:38, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: No it has absolutely nothing to do with you starting, or restarting your pc. Nowadays, I keep mine on 24/7 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. On 6/27/2016 4:37 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: I get these as well, I just hang up on them. I don't think it has anything to do with you starting up your computer. - Original Message - From: Dave via Talk To: A I Squared Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
When I first got these calls they said they were from Microsoft but with later calls they did not make that claim. If you let them have a remote connection they will install bad things on your computer then charge you to remove them. On 6/27/2016 6:49 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I got a call from t those guys and they said my computer had viruses. *laughs8 Darrell Bowles Assistive Technology Trainer Pelissippi State Community College 8656613917 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of kitty hevener via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:48 PM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever I think my best one is I said how can my computer need servicing when I don't even own one lol! -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:26 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, Looks like most here have had to deal with these guys as well. Some of your responses were quite good!A couple of them had me laughing. Had me wishing they would call me back again so I could pull the same stunts. I did respond one time where I completely had the guy speechless. Idiot Caller: Hello this is Windows Technical Support. We have detected a problem with your computer. Grumpy Dave: Sorry, but I use an Apple System. Apples do not run MS Windows. The guy didn't know what to say to that one. Actually, I think Apple systems can run MS Windows, but if you have an Apple, why put MS Windows on it? Well, I can see needing to run some software that is only made for Windows. But even then, I think I would just buy a cheap MS Windows System, rather than having a Dual-Boot Mac. But thanks for the feed back for the question. I am not as concerned about these calls now. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/khevener%40ear thlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I got a call from t those guys and they said my computer had viruses. *laughs8 Darrell Bowles Assistive Technology Trainer Pelissippi State Community College 8656613917 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of kitty hevener via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:48 PM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever I think my best one is I said how can my computer need servicing when I don't even own one lol! -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:26 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, Looks like most here have had to deal with these guys as well. Some of your responses were quite good!A couple of them had me laughing. Had me wishing they would call me back again so I could pull the same stunts. I did respond one time where I completely had the guy speechless. Idiot Caller: Hello this is Windows Technical Support. We have detected a problem with your computer. Grumpy Dave: Sorry, but I use an Apple System. Apples do not run MS Windows. The guy didn't know what to say to that one. Actually, I think Apple systems can run MS Windows, but if you have an Apple, why put MS Windows on it? Well, I can see needing to run some software that is only made for Windows. But even then, I think I would just buy a cheap MS Windows System, rather than having a Dual-Boot Mac. But thanks for the feed back for the question. I am not as concerned about these calls now. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/khevener%40ear thlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I think my best one is I said how can my computer need servicing when I don't even own one lol! -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 7:26 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, Looks like most here have had to deal with these guys as well. Some of your responses were quite good!A couple of them had me laughing. Had me wishing they would call me back again so I could pull the same stunts. I did respond one time where I completely had the guy speechless. Idiot Caller: Hello this is Windows Technical Support. We have detected a problem with your computer. Grumpy Dave: Sorry, but I use an Apple System. Apples do not run MS Windows. The guy didn't know what to say to that one. Actually, I think Apple systems can run MS Windows, but if you have an Apple, why put MS Windows on it? Well, I can see needing to run some software that is only made for Windows. But even then, I think I would just buy a cheap MS Windows System, rather than having a Dual-Boot Mac. But thanks for the feed back for the question. I am not as concerned about these calls now. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/khevener%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I had a friend who got one of these calls and he doesn't even have a computer. They know nothing except that they will manage to find a few suckers in every so many that they call. That can reap them a lot of money even if it's only one in a thousand. If I have the time, I like to waste their time. Otherwise, I tell them that I have no computer so it's obviously a scam. It generally leaves them dumbfounded. Then I hang up. TTFN, Marilyn H. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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its rair, but if they have a root kit that hides itself from the antivirus it could be sending them notice that the computer has been turned on then they would know when to call. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:38 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever No it has absolutely nothing to do with you starting, or restarting your pc. Nowadays, I keep mine on 24/7 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Hello, Looks like most here have had to deal with these guys as well. Some of your responses were quite good!A couple of them had me laughing. Had me wishing they would call me back again so I could pull the same stunts. I did respond one time where I completely had the guy speechless. Idiot Caller: Hello this is Windows Technical Support. We have detected a problem with your computer. Grumpy Dave: Sorry, but I use an Apple System. Apples do not run MS Windows. The guy didn't know what to say to that one. Actually, I think Apple systems can run MS Windows, but if you have an Apple, why put MS Windows on it? Well, I can see needing to run some software that is only made for Windows. But even then, I think I would just buy a cheap MS Windows System, rather than having a Dual-Boot Mac. But thanks for the feed back for the question. I am not as concerned about these calls now. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Our company's IT administrator even gets these calls on his cell phone while driving. It is all just a scam, nothing to do with your real computer -- unless you make a mistake and let them remotely connect. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:37 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Dave, When you played along with them, you probably got upgraded to their "Call more often" list. If you just start hanging up on them, they will probably downgrade you to a "Call now and then" list and eventually they will stop. I think it is unlikely that they are calling because they get notified when you start your system, it is probably just coincidence, but it can't hurt to do a full virus and malware scan if you feel strongly that they are somehow being notified. They are going to try to call when they think they are most likely going to get a human being answering. In general, I don't play along with any scammers or spammers, even when it is tempting. At the very least, you may indicate to them that you are worth contacting again, and you could give information to them without meaning to. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:23 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin.van.lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with Ke
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
It's funny that this thread should arise at this time, because I just got off the phone with a friend who has gotten a couple of these calls. the thing is, he doesn't even have a computer, and when he told them of this, the guy actually had the effrontery to ask him in an incredulous voice, "then what do you do with your time?" Needless to say, that is when my friend just hung up the phone. On 6/27/2016 4:35 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: I tell them that's a pretty good trick, considering I don't even have a computer connected to the internet, grin. They usually hang up and only call back occasionally. My sister played along with them one time and kept them on the phone for 20 minutes. After one step, he asked her what was on her computer screen. She told them nothing. The man was puzzled for a minute. She replied that she didn't have a computer and that she just had a desire to annoy him the same way he had annoyed her. He never called back. I hope this gives at least one person a smile. Carol On 6/27/2016 4:37 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: I get these as well, I just hang up on them. I don't think it has anything to do with you starting up your computer. - Original Message - From: Dave via Talk To: A I Squared Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
No it has absolutely nothing to do with you starting, or restarting your pc. Nowadays, I keep mine on 24/7 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. On 6/27/2016 4:37 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: I get these as well, I just hang up on them. I don't think it has anything to do with you starting up your computer. - Original Message - From: Dave via Talk To: A I Squared Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Heh, maybe keep your computer on 24/7 like I do? Seriously, just ignore them, and do not do anything they say under any circumstances whatsoever! this is a scam and I don't want a nice person taken advantage of. On 6/27/2016 5:25 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: I haven't actually tried this yet, but I'm thinking about it. Paste the url below into your web browser and check it out. I'm not sure it works on cell phones yet or with wireless companies but definitely on land lines. https://www.nomorobo.com/ -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:22 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I was getting these calls when I didn't even have a computer. Peace. Linette On 6/27/2016 4:50 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: And it happens when you turn on your computer? I don't like that. That sounds like somebody has gotten into your computer, somehow. Most of those calls come randomly, not like yours. The people don't know if your computer is on or not, usually. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
That's what I do they go away real quick -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:54 PM To: Dave; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever I know about these calls. The guys have white-bread names like Peter or Jim, but their accents indicate India. I haven't received calls like this for some time now. Maybe that's because before they can say much, I say quickly, "My computer is fine, thank you.," and then hang up. I'me had the urge, however, to say in my best East Indian accent, "Hello, Peter. My name is Priya." But if I tried, I'd probably start laughing. Peace. Linette On 6/27/2016 3:22 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > Hello, > > On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling > me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have > all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. > > I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > them calling me. > > Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not > so. > > I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still > these folks keep calling. > > Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? > > I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need > entertainment. > > But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when > they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at > times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. > > Anyone have good advice? > > Grumpy Dave > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
We got so many robo and scam calls, that we silenced the ringer on our land line and gave our friends and business callers our cell numbers. we only use our land line for calling out and check the answer machine once a day. Have to keep the land line, because of our bundle with ?Comcast. Works well. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 16:15:26 -0500 Don H via Talk wrote: > If you google this subject you will see this a wide spread scam. I have > gotten the same call numerous times. > > On 6/27/2016 4:11 PM, David via Talk wrote: > > May not have anything to do with your system restart. Once they've got > > your phone number, they can go on for ages. One idea could be to get a > > caller-ID unit, and when you hear the number spoken out to you, > > determine whether you will pick up the phone or not. OK, likely they may > > be prepared, and have made their number not show up on caller-IDs, but > > in such cases, you will hear the unit saying something like "number not > > available", whenever they call. You then would refrain from answering > > the call. Do they get enough unanswered calls, they may eventually give > > up. This kind of prank-calls, are much like spam-mails. > > > > Should you get hold of the phone number they are using, you could of > > course contact Microsoft customer service, and let them be aware of the > > thing. Not sure if they would follow up on it too much, but definitely > > worth a try. > > > > In case you really can confirm it has to do with your system startup, > > there could be a couple of suggestions to consider. One thing is that > > you may want to run another virus/spyware/malware scanner. No scanner is > > perfect, and sometimes using an extra scanner has proven helpful in > > getting rid of things. You may also want to have two eyes assist you, in > > running a Bootup-scan, from either of your your anti-scanners. This > > would get deeper into the OS, and may grasp hold of something before it > > gets started. > > > > Does this only happen if you awake your system from sleep or hibernation > > mode? In such cases it could be worth to check what software is actually > > running at the moment. > > > > Do you use any cloud services, that automatically starts up with your > > system? Try turning them off and determine if the calls still keep > > coming in. Someone may have hacked your online-services. Changing your > > login information on the service in question, may be one way to prevent > > them from seeing when you are online. > > > > If possible, perhaps try starting your system, disconnected from the > > internet. Let it run for an hour, and see if they call you. Reconnect > > the internet, and see what happens. You may of course have to repeat > > such testing over a few days. > > > > And finally, someone may have managed to hack your internet connection, > > or your ISP account. If possible, change the password on your internet > > connection. Is your router running in OPEN mode, try to apply some > > security settings from within the router itself. If you are on a > > wireless connection, make sure you are behind proper protection, and > > even try change the very network name, to something you only would know > > to recognize. > > > > As you can see, not an easy task. And like I introduced, them first > > having your phone number, it is hard to get rid of them. Should you be > > able to catch their number, try contacting your phone company, and ask > > if they provide number blocking services, that you can have them block > > the actual number from calling you in the future. > > > > Hope any of this proves helpful to you, and others who experience this > > kind of prank. Of course, if nothing else works, never give ear to them > > - not even to play fun. That only encourages them. It's like if you > > reply on a spam-mail. Once you hear their introduction, and know it is > > prank, simply just disconnect. Even if it so happened that Microsoft > > ever would call you as a private individual, my guess is that they will > > never offer you something you cannot do without. Microsoft, like most > > other big companies today, have far more efficient ways of reaching > > their customers. Unless you have specifically made an apointment with > > them to call you back, you should consider any such calls pure prank. > > > > > > > > David > > > > On 6/27/2016 10:22 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my > >> computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me > >> they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. > >> So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have > >> all been > >> from people with thick accents from some far away place. > >> > >> I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of > >> them calling me. > >> > >> Thought
RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I have also suffered from these calls. They simply kept on coming back even though it was clear I wasn't interested. I found a technique which worked in the end, see the conversation below. Me "Please give me your name and the company you work for" Them "Why" Me "Because I am going to call the police on my other phone while you are on my line" That did it. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:37 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Dave, When you played along with them, you probably got upgraded to their "Call more often" list. If you just start hanging up on them, they will probably downgrade you to a "Call now and then" list and eventually they will stop. I think it is unlikely that they are calling because they get notified when you start your system, it is probably just coincidence, but it can't hurt to do a full virus and malware scan if you feel strongly that they are somehow being notified. They are going to try to call when they think they are most likely going to get a human being answering. In general, I don't play along with any scammers or spammers, even when it is tempting. At the very least, you may indicate to them that you are worth contacting again, and you could give information to them without meaning to. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:23 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/john_farley%40 btinternet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
And it happens when you turn on your computer? I don't like that. That sounds like somebody has gotten into your computer, somehow. Most of those calls come randomly, not like yours. The people don't know if your computer is on or not, usually. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12504 - Release Date: 06/27/16 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
Dave, When you played along with them, you probably got upgraded to their "Call more often" list. If you just start hanging up on them, they will probably downgrade you to a "Call now and then" list and eventually they will stop. I think it is unlikely that they are calling because they get notified when you start your system, it is probably just coincidence, but it can't hurt to do a full virus and malware scan if you feel strongly that they are somehow being notified. They are going to try to call when they think they are most likely going to get a human being answering. In general, I don't play along with any scammers or spammers, even when it is tempting. At the very least, you may indicate to them that you are worth contacting again, and you could give information to them without meaning to. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:23 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever
I tell them that's a pretty good trick, considering I don't even have a computer connected to the internet, grin. They usually hang up and only call back occasionally. My sister played along with them one time and kept them on the phone for 20 minutes. After one step, he asked her what was on her computer screen. She told them nothing. The man was puzzled for a minute. She replied that she didn't have a computer and that she just had a desire to annoy him the same way he had annoyed her. He never called back. I hope this gives at least one person a smile. Carol On 6/27/2016 4:37 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: I get these as well, I just hang up on them. I don't think it has anything to do with you starting up your computer. - Original Message - From: Dave via Talk To: A I Squared Support Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: OT: Annoying Window Technical Service Calls from India or where ever Hello, On my last system, a Win 7 system, it seemed when ever I started up my computer, shortly after, I would receive a call from a person telling me they were from the Windows Technical Service, or something like that. So far,every call, which are probably two or three dozen by now, have all been from people with thick accents from some far away place. I knew these guys were up to no good, but I would like to get rid of them calling me. Thought when I change systems, I would sease getting these calls. Not so. I have Software to rid my system of viruses and Malware, but still these folks keep calling. Anyone here find a solution to stop these people from calling? I have started to play along to see what they will do. Even I need entertainment. But, I am getting bored and they amazingly seem to really get upset when they find out I've been playing them along.totally halairious at times, but now I really just need to stop the calls. Anyone have good advice? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
