Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, December 12, 2002, 12:57:40 AM, you wrote: RW PMFJI but I'm still having my flickering cursor/hourglass problem and RW I looked properly at Task Manager just now and I have *two* instances RW of The Bat.exe running. One is solid on 18,192K and the other RW changes every few seconds

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Gerard, On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 at 13:45:36[GMT +0100](which was 12:45 where I live) you wrote: G I have the same setup and I checked but I have only one instance at G 17+K. G If you have had this problem from the beginning may I suggest that G you download the latest version again, Well, I

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, December 12, 2002, 7:04:44 PM, you wrote: RW Well, I deleted the errant small file and have rebooted the PC twice RW since then and it hasn't come back. I can't think how it got in there RW but it must be a one off occurrence and TB! and the rest of the system RW (including ZA Pro)

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Gerard, On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 at 20:16:17[GMT +0100](which was 19:16 where I live) you wrote: G My problems started after about 9 months of problem free operation. I do G remember ZoneLabs telling me there was a new update. I had a look but G didn't change anything. My ZoneLabs did it on its

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Wakeford
Now why did that double post happen? I did my usual of clicking on the send button in the message for an immediate send. -- Best regards, Richard Blessed are they who have little to say -- and don't. Using The Bat! version 1.62 Beta/17 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gerard! On Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 8:16:17 PM you wrote: My problems started after about 9 months of problem free operation. Nine months seems to be the normal period before the sleepless nights, loud noises, strange smells etc. happen. Sorry, couldn't resist, and it was a long

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, December 12, 2002, 8:40:46 PM, you wrote: RW Now why did that double post happen? I did my usual of clicking on the RW send button in the message for an immediate send. Richard, No double send here, maybe a double receive? Try kill dupes -- Best regards, Gerard

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Gerard, On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 at 21:30:21[GMT +0100](which was 20:30 where I live) you wrote: G No double send here, maybe a double receive? Try kill dupes Hm?? Strange but I did kill the dupes. Just thought that it was sent twice too. -- Best regards, Richard

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-11 Thread Gerard
ON Monday, December 9, 2002, 12:39:23 PM, you wrote: VBG Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which VBG process overwhelmed my system how would I go about VBG preventing it from starting or stopping before or once it is VBG in action? Hi Victor, I had the problem this morning on my

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-11 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Gerard, VBG Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which VBG process overwhelmed my system how would I go about VBG preventing it from starting or stopping before or once it is VBG in action? G I had the problem this morning on my WIN2K system. G The way to find the process is to

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-11 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, December 11, 2002, 11:40:14 AM, you wrote: G I had the problem this morning on my WIN2K system. G The way to find the process is to switch to the task manager VBG I wish I can do that but it'll never launch :( and if it is VBG already running the system doesn't slow down instead it

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-11 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 at 14:14:32[GMT +0100](which was 13:14 where I live) you wrote: G What you can do is start the taskmanager and then start the application G (The Bat!) that is experiencing the freeze. You should still see the G offending program jump to the top of the list if

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-10 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Thomas, VBG It doesn't freeze unless I have the task manager open. What VBG happens is the system slows down to the point where if I were VBG to do a figure 8 with the mouse on the screen in one second the VBG system will still be doing that figure 8 for the next two VBG minutes. Yeah.

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Victor, On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 06:39:23 -0500 GMT (09/12/02, 18:39 +0700 GMT), Victor B. Gonzalez wrote: TF I think so too. Now the question is to find out which process that is. Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which process overwhelmed my system how would I go about

About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello List, I went the whole night happy as hell it didn't freeze up. Today again out of nowhere *BOOM* completely unexpected without an ounce of change TB *freezes* the entire system. I am trying to run TB 24/7 on a 1.6 GHz, P4, 512 DDR RAM, Cable connection (d 1.6MEG - u 800kb) with

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Victor, @8-Dec-2002, 15:33 -0500 (20:33 UK time) Victor B. Gonzalez [VBG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip VBG without an ounce of change TB *freezes* the entire system. ... snip VBG ... and Zone Alarm

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Marck, VBG without an ounce of change TB *freezes* the entire system. VBG ... and Zone Alarm Professional running. MDP Is this the culprit? I personally recommend Kerio PF over ZAP, which MDP has caused many people many problems. Especially TB users for some MDP reason. I paid good

Re[3]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Mogens Holst
Hello Victor, Sunday, December 8, 2002, 22:08, you wrote: VBG Hello Marck, VBG without an ounce of change TB *freezes* the entire system. VBG ... and Zone Alarm Professional running. MDP Is this the culprit? I personally recommend Kerio PF over ZAP, which MDP has caused many people many

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mogens Holst [MH] wrote:' MH Same experience here. ZAP was nothing but problems; changed to MH Kerio and never looked back Though I have my dislikes for ZAP, a freezing XP system is unlikely to be secondary to ZAP. It tends to just mess up your

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Victor, On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 at 15:33:30[GMT -0500](which was 20:33 where I live) you wrote: VBG I am trying to run TB 24/7 on a 1.6 GHz, P4, 512 DDR RAM, VBG Cable connection (d 1.6MEG - u 800kb) with Roxios GoBack 3 VBG Deluxe and Zone Alarm Professional running. I am also running ZA

Re[4]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Mogens, VBG without an ounce of change TB *freezes* the entire system. VBG ... and Zone Alarm Professional running. MDP Is this the culprit? I personally recommend Kerio PF over ZAP, which MDP has caused many people many problems. Especially TB users for some MDP reason. MH Same

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Wakeford [RW] wrote:' RW I'm not getting system halts so much as TB! uses almost all of RW my processor and the cursor continually flashes in alternation RW with the hour glass and there is continual but spasmodic RW internet connectivity

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Mogens Holst
Hello Allie, Sunday, December 8, 2002, 22:30, you wrote: ACM Mogens Holst [MH] wrote:' MH Same experience here. ZAP was nothing but problems; changed to MH Kerio and never looked back ACM Though I have my dislikes for ZAP, a freezing XP system is unlikely ACM to be secondary to ZAP. It tends

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Allie, On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 at 16:34:10[GMT -0500](which was 21:34 where I live) you wrote: ACM This happens all the time when TB! is running or does it happen as ACM soon as it starts checking for mail? Unfortunately all the time. TB! behaves for the first 5 seconds after starting and then

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mogens Holst [MH] wrote:' MH You are probably right and it could just be a coincidence. But I MH dismantled ZAP 2 months ago and my problems disappeared - and MH they did not come back when I installed Kerio 3 weeks ago . I doubt it was a coincidence

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Wakeford [RW] wrote:' RW OK, I'll try to uninstall it completely to see what happens RW although I can't understand why the two programmes worked RW perfectly in harmony before this. Interestingly this was my experience before things went

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Allie, ACM It takes something more fundamental to interfere with XP's ACM stability... I agree. XP is the most solid version of Windows I've ever played with and I've been playing with Windows since 95. ACM If XP is freezing, I don't think this has anything to do with TB!. I can

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Paul Wilson
Sunday, 12/8/2002, 2:00 PM Hi Allie, On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, at 16:50:04 [GMT -0500] (which was 1:50 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'About TB ON XP *freezing*' RW OK, I'll try to uninstall it completely to see what happens RW although I can't understand why the two programmes worked RW perfectly

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote:' ACM These problems have never been secondary to applications such ACM as TB!. I shouldn't say 'never' here. I meant 'very unlikely'. :) TB! and other innocent applications often just trigger the *real* problem and are

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Mogens Holst
Hello Allie, Sunday, December 8, 2002, 23:01, you wrote: ACM What problems were you having with your system. Was it blue ACM screening or locking up or were you having network problems that ACM would only go away for a while after a fresh reboot. The latter is ACM more typical of ZA. MH XP is

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Victor B. Gonzalez [VBG] wrote:' VBG I can prove it's The Bat! and not because it's the newest app VBG on my system but because right after boot-up the very first app VBG I go to launch is The Bat! The only thing I can say is that TB! triggers a

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mogens Holst [MH] wrote:' MH It was locking up and I had to reboot. I could not CAD out of MH it. And it was only the combination of ZAP and TB! ZAP worked MH fine with over network programs. Interesting. I've never heard ZAP and TB! creating such

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Allie, On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 at 16:50:04[GMT -0500](which was 21:50 where I live) you wrote: ACM Interestingly this was my experience before things went awry. Good ACM luck. Un installed, rebooted and no change. shucks :-( -- Best regards, Richard The early bird suffers from insomnia

Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
Hello Allie, ACM The only thing I can say is that TB! triggers a problem. Whether the ACM problem is in fact completely in TB!'s realm of responsibility is ACM yet to be proven. I naturally doubt this very much since my ACM experience with TB! is the opposite. I run it 24/7 on my XP system ACM

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Anthony Xin Chen
Hi All, On 8 Dec 2002 17:19:07 (my local time 14:19:07), Allie C Martin wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Time to get ZA out of the equation I'd say. The only way to do this would be through a complete uninstall of it. ZA is absolutely a pig to un-install. Refer to the

Re: About TB ON XP *freezing*

2002-12-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:19:07 -0500 GMT (09/12/02, 05:19 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: VBG It doesn't freeze unless I have the task manager open. What VBG happens is the system slows down to the point where if I were VBG to do a figure 8 with the mouse on the screen in one second