Hello Leif Gregory & everyone else,
CC'ing to TBOT...
on 26-Okt-2006 at 15:08 you (Leif Gregory) wrote:
> but if it meets absolutely no other spam criteria, the points it
> received on the DNSbl listing alone *should not* be enough to classify
> it as spam.
That may be true if you're talking ab
Hello Leif,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 1:49:20 PM, you wrote:
LG> Hello MikeD,
LG> Thursday, October 26, 2006, 10:48:56 AM, you wrote:
>> I don't disagree with anything that you said ... in theory.
>> Unfortunately in practice it seems that more and more folks are
>> using things in the most si
On 10/26/06, Perry Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Joe,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 11:40:06 AM, you wrote:
J> But you've made me change direction, that's for sure. There's no way
J> I want to go through all that.
Well, that wasn't my intention in all that verbiage. What I described
On 10/26/06, Benedict Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Howdy Joe,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 4:45:10 PM, Joe wrotened:
> But I'm taking the cowards way out this time.
Well if you can live with the problem i guess thats ok then.
Again, I don't really know yet what the extent of the proble
Hello Peter,
M>> Some 5 years or so. It is a Dell PowerEdge 500SC with an 800 MHz Celeron
M>> processor and 128 MB RAM.
>
> Not bad at all. My email sw is running on a Pentium I / 64MB /
> MHz, works just fine ;)
>
Sure it works. My previous 'server' was an older and slow Acer laptop
with only 6
Hello MikeD,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 10:48:56 AM, you wrote:
> I don't disagree with anything that you said ... in theory.
> Unfortunately in practice it seems that more and more folks are
> using things in the most simplistic, least responsible way because
> it is easier than doing it right
Hello Leif,
I don't disagree with anything that you said ... in theory.
Unfortunately in practice it seems that more and more folks are using
things in the most simplistic, least responsible way because it is
easier than doing it right
We are devo :-/
--
Best regards,
MikeD
Hi Joe,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 11:40:06 AM, you wrote:
J> But you've made me change direction, that's for sure. There's no way
J> I want to go through all that.
Well, that wasn't my intention in all that verbiage. What I described
is the "normal" process of problem solving in a tech cen
Howdy Benedict,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 5:09:14 PM, Benedict wrotened:
> Howdy Joe,
> Thursday, October 26, 2006, 4:45:10 PM, Joe wrotened:
>> But I'm taking the cowards way out this time.
> Well if you can live with the problem i guess thats ok then.
In fact it sometimes works, ignore th
Howdy Joe,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 4:45:10 PM, Joe wrotened:
> But I'm taking the cowards way out this time.
Well if you can live with the problem i guess thats ok then.
--
Have Fun,
Ben Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
crashing The Bat! v3.86.03 ALPHA (beta)
falling out of mid air with Window
Hello Joe & everyone else,
on 26-Okt-2006 at 17:40 you (Joe) wrote:
> So I'm going to opt for Plan C ("C" for chicken) - i.e., I'm going
> wait and see what happens next.
Which may very well work. The hostname sounds like Bellsouth has
multiple SMTP servers on which the load is divided. Chances
On 10/25/06, Benedict Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
Speaking from an ISP that currently has one of its IP ranges being
affected by a similar issue, and depending on whether Bellsouth
maintain their own servers, or outsource them, this problem could take
a while to resolve. B
On 10/25/06, Perry Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
The first words out of my mouth to them would be "have any other
customers reported their mail being rejected because the SMTP servers
at BellSouth were blacklisted for spamming?" Follow that with Miguel's
(MAU) advice and expla
Hello Mark,
M>> I use an old PC as the physical server, not much power is needed for a
M>> few thousand daily e-mail. And for MTA I use Mercury/32, a great piece
M>> of software, the best I found at the time and it is free:
>
M>> http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercury.htm
>
> Thanks! (BTW: w
Hello MAU,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 2:30:00 PM, you wrote:
M> I use an old PC as the physical server, not much power is needed for a
M> few thousand daily e-mail. And for MTA I use Mercury/32, a great piece
M> of software, the best I found at the time and it is free:
M> http://www.pmail.com/
Hello MikeD,
Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 2:01:58 PM, you wrote:
> When you miss that important email because it was sent from someone
> that was blacklisted incorrectly, I will remind you of those 600
> other messages and ask you which was more important, the one or the
> 600
And that'd be poor
Hello Mark,
M>> I also hate my ISP (or anyone) deciding for me. That is why I have my
M>> different domains and add my own SMTP/POP server sitting a couple of
M>> meter away from me.
>
> Using (hard & software)? (A short answer will do!)
I use an old PC as the physical server, not much power is n
Hello MAU,
Thursday, October 26, 2006, 12:42:57 AM, you wrote:
M> I also hate my ISP (or anyone) deciding for me. That is why I have my
M> different domains and add my own SMTP/POP server sitting a couple of
M> meter away from me.
Using (hard & software)? (A short answer will do!)
--
Best Wis
J>> Any prediction as to what they'll say?
PN> As a former technical support Product Specialist for BellSouth's
--- 8< --- snip, snip --- [edited for brevity]
To second that, I was 3rd tier tech support for AT&T's NOC and THAT
didn't help me when MY domain was AT&T blacklisted. It STILL took
Howdy,
Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 11:44:51 PM, Perry wrotened:
> As a former technical support Product Specialist for BellSouth's
> FastAccess service, I can guess what they'll say, unless things have
> changed since I retired.
Sounds like a typical support service to me, so I'd
Hi Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 3:54:21 PM, you wrote:
J> This is the full IP: 205.152.59.66. But I'm confused. Are you saying
J> that someone has classified *me* as a spammer???
Because of the merry-go-round you are likely to get on by calling
BellSouth, I think my first course of action
Hi Joe,
Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 12:13:42 PM, you wrote:
J> Any prediction as to what they'll say?
As a former technical support Product Specialist for BellSouth's
FastAccess service, I can guess what they'll say, unless things have
changed since I retired.
The front line tech suppo
Hello MikeD,
M>> Not really. I use some blacklists (mainly Spamhaus, www.spamhaus.org) at
M>> my server and, thanks to them, I stop/reject over 600 (yes, 600) email
M>> per day before they even get into the server.
>
> When you miss that important email because it was sent from someone
> that was
Hello MAU,
Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 1:19:50 PM, you wrote:
M> Hello MikeD,
LG>>> Yep, they are classifying the IP listed in the error you received as a
LG>>> spammer "friendly" IP address. If you're not running your own SMTP,
LG>>> then this is most likely the IP address for your ISP SMTP se
Hello Joe,
Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 10:13:42 AM, you wrote:
>> It's most likely not even remotely your fault, but it impacts you
>> heavily because it's an IP that you need to use to send mail. I'd
>> talk to your ISP.
> Any prediction as to what they'll say?
... Heck no. But I'd definitely
Hello MikeD,
LG>> Yep, they are classifying the IP listed in the error you received as a
LG>> spammer "friendly" IP address. If you're not running your own SMTP,
LG>> then this is most likely the IP address for your ISP SMTP server.
>
> And this is exactly why the 'black list' sites are a "cure" t
Hello Joe,
>>
>> Hello Joe,
>>
>> > Frankly, I'm not sure. I just assumed that it was mine (isn't every
>> > computer assigned an IP number?) because it's the one mentioned in the
>> error
>> > message. I'll have to do some research and get back to you on that one.
>>
>> No, it is not your IP ad
Dear MikeD,
-->> Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006, 12:52:43:
> Perhaps, but it isn't always a 'good' reason. I help support a
> mailing list that uses Lyris and several places like SORBS end up
> blacklisting anyone that would dare to use a list server
Just to ad my 2c. I've send several times f
Hello Leif,
Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 9:50:43 AM, you wrote:
>> Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:29:36 PM, you wrote:
>> I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does
>> that mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I
>> guess) as a spammer? And that the
On 10/25/06, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carnak...er...Chris, to further challenge your psychic powers, how do you
think BellSouth will respond? Tell me to take a hike? Offer to issue me a
new IP, with no guarantee that it'll be any better? Tell me to contact
SORBS, et. al? What? :)
It
Remember, the above is simplified and speculative. My psychic powers
have been working recently, but they could have stopped. :-)
Carnak...er...Chris, to further challenge your psychic powers, how do you
think BellSouth will respond? Tell me to take a hike? Offer to issue me a
new IP, with n
Dear MikeD,
-->> Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006, 12:52:43:
> Perhaps, but it isn't always a 'good' reason. I help support a
> mailing list that uses Lyris and several places like SORBS end up
> blacklisting anyone that would dare to use a list server
Just to ad my 2c. I've send several times f
On 10/25/06, MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Joe,
> Frankly, I'm not sure. I just assumed that it was mine (isn't every
> computer assigned an IP number?) because it's the one mentioned in the
error
> message. I'll have to do some research and get back to you on that one.
No, it is not
On 10/25/06, Leif Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:29:36 PM, you wrote:
> I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does
> that mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I
> guess) as a spammer? And that the busi
Hello Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:29:36 PM, you wrote:
> I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does
> that mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I
> guess) as a spammer? And that the business that's all-of-a-sudden
> started to bounce my e-mai
Hello Alexander,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 4:15:45 PM, you wrote:
ASK> Yes, I am sure. Enter the IP address in the DNSRBL test client. It'll
ASK> reveal that the IP is blacklisted on the SORBS and BLARS DNS blacklists.
ASK> BLARS is a very aggressive list (it lists entire netblocks), but SORBS
A
Hello Joe,
> Frankly, I'm not sure. I just assumed that it was mine (isn't every
> computer assigned an IP number?) because it's the one mentioned in the error
> message. I'll have to do some research and get back to you on that one.
No, it is not your IP address. Even if it was, you said you a
Joe @ 2006-10-24 5:24:33 PM
"Why is The Bat's mail being rejected?"
>> Erm... we have to clarify this as it is very important. Is this
>> *your* IP adress, or the IP address of a Bellsouth mail server?
> Frankly, I'm not sure. I just assumed that it was mine
On 10/24/06, Alexander S. Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Joe & everyone else,
on 24-Okt-2006 at 22:29 you (Joe) wrote:
> I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does
that
> mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I guess) as
a
> spammer?
Er
Hello Joe & everyone else,
on 24-Okt-2006 at 22:29 you (Joe) wrote:
> I got 4 (I think), but one was purported to be out of business. Does that
> mean that those lists are classifying *me* (actually, my IP, I guess) as a
> spammer?
Erm... we have to clarify this as it is very important. Is this
On 10/24/06, Leif Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:00:04 PM, you wrote:
> "SMTP server" from a sausage pizza.
Easy.. Sausage pizza: Yummy and edible.. SMTP Server: Not edible, but
the SPAM might be!
Boo! Hiss! :)
--
Joe
___
On 10/24/06, Leif Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:54:21 PM, you wrote:
> This is the full IP: 205.152.59.66. But I'm confused. Are you saying
> that someone has classified *me* as a spammer??? How can that be?
Yep.. Try putting your IP address in at:
Hello Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 2:00:04 PM, you wrote:
> "SMTP server" from a sausage pizza.
Easy.. Sausage pizza: Yummy and edible.. SMTP Server: Not edible, but
the SPAM might be!
--
TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202
__
Hello Joe & everyone else,
on 24-Okt-2006 at 21:54 you (Joe) wrote:
>> Since this is a purely IP based refusal it would be interesting to know
>> the complete IP address. :-}
> This is the full IP: 205.152.59.66. But I'm confused. Are you saying that
> someone has classified *me* as a spammer?
Hello Joe,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:54:21 PM, you wrote:
> This is the full IP: 205.152.59.66. But I'm confused. Are you saying
> that someone has classified *me* as a spammer??? How can that be?
Yep.. Try putting your IP address in at:
http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr
It
On 10/24/06, Leif Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Alexander,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:29:01 PM, you wrote:
> Since this is a purely IP based refusal it would be interesting to know
> the complete IP address. :-}
Agreed, and just for clarification to the OP, it has nothing to do
wi
On 10/24/06, Alexander S. Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Joe & everyone else,
on 24-Okt-2006 at 20:47 you (Joe) wrote:
> **A business with which I've successfully corresponded with several
> times in the past has started to reject by e-mails. I always get the
> same error message. Anyon
Hello Alexander,
Tuesday, October 24, 2006, 1:29:01 PM, you wrote:
> Since this is a purely IP based refusal it would be interesting to know
> the complete IP address. :-}
Agreed, and just for clarification to the OP, it has nothing to do
with The Bat! based on the error message. It's all about y
Hello Joe & everyone else,
on 24-Okt-2006 at 20:47 you (Joe) wrote:
> **A business with which I've successfully corresponded with several
> times in the past has started to reject by e-mails. I always get the
> same error message. Anyone have any ideas as to why my e-mail is
> supposedly (and sud
**A business with which I've successfully corresponded with several times in
the past has started to reject by e-mails. I always get the same error
message. Anyone have any ideas as to why my e-mail is supposedly (and
suddenly) being interpreted as a "spam site"?
Thanks!
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