Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Julio Peña
Did someone mention Motovun?... MotoWikihahaha All the best, Julio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Birthe C
Inspired? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velociraptor I think Motovun Jack is more peaceful. tirsdag den 28. april 2020 kl. 23.36.19 UTC+2 skrev David Gifford: > > whois says that > > velocirapp.com is available > > Cool name. It's an app, it's speedy for notetaking, it's also a vicious >

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread David Gifford
whois says that velocirapp.com is available Cool name. It's an app, it's speedy for notetaking, it's also a vicious predator recreated from DNA found in a mosquito trapped in amber. The only thing that comes up in Google search is a food delivery service in Ecatepec, Morelos, Mexico (about

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Mat
Dave Parker wrote: > > How about "TheWiki" (the wiki formerly known as TiddlyWiki). > I thought that was a brilliant idea but it, unfortunately, is registered albeit not in use, see https://www.whois.net/ <:-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread David Gifford
What about the name "Notid"? 1) Ties into notetaking: Take a NOTE with a TID 2) Keeps verbal connection with Tiddlywiki 3) Short and easy to pronounce and spell: "noted with an I" or "n-o-t-i-d" 4) Google search doesn't turn up anything for "Notid" or "Notid app" 5) Tagline: "make sure your notes

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Dave Parker
How about "TheWiki" (the wiki formerly known as TiddlyWiki). People would say "have you tried TheWiki?" "what wiki?" "not just any wiki - THE Wiki! The wiki for the ages, the Only wiki. Get it at thewiki.com" <-- just checked, its available :D Also, if you wanted to be even more generic,

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Thomas Elmiger
@Mat :-D JunkieWiki sounds great. @Mohammand, thanks for asking :) If this was my product, I would keep the good and add the better: *Drop App* – a starter edition for writing thinkers, based on the *Xememex Wiki Engine* version 5.1.22, driven by @Jermolene and the phantastic *TW Community*.

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Mohammad
Hi Thomas, To this end it seems you have not problem with a new name! I read your discussion on Twitter! where it was stated Tiddlywiki is of a WebApp nature! It seems there is no or little consensus on wiki part! I also agree with TonyM where he calls TW a kind of digital platform!

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I doubt that "atoms" or "fragments" capture TW fully. Sure it builds from bits & its commit to build UP from them is pretty radical. Of course the atomistic "unit model" of existence is a major trope of computerisation in general so its not that unique. BUT in case of TW its architecturally

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Mat
Thomas Elmiger wrote: > > > The fundamental idea >> is that information is more useful and reusable if we cut it up into the >> smallest semantically meaningful *chunks *[...] >> > > So my goal would be to preserve this fundamental idea in the

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-28 Thread Thomas Elmiger
This is a hilarious thread with so many intelligent and witty participants – thank you all! There are already too many contributions for me to stay on top of everything. Sorry if I overlooked something. I would like to *spray in* a few thoughts of my own, starting with this snippet from Arlen:

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-27 Thread TonyM
Arlen > And nothing is harder, except MediaWiki allows you to transclude an open > tag without closing it and then close it later with a second template! In > tiddlywiki you have to put the whole thing in a macro and use a set widget > to get the header and footer then include them as

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-04-27 Thread Anjar
Hi, I couldn't see it being suggested, but a temporary solution may be to use a another shortform than TW(5); say "Tidwi" as in *Tid*dly*Wi*ki for example; when reaching out; it may be less charged (importnt for the first impression) and we can still link it to all existing ressources by

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Arlen, I really enjoyed reading your post! and I learned from it. Like CJ Veniot I do not know what we can call TW from technical point of view, but for me TW is like raw materials (html5+css+wikitext) and I can make many things (apps) with it. Sometimes I describe it like a small white

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread Mark Kerrigan
Thanks Arlen for your characterization, it's very helpful in conceptualizing "TiddlyWiki Philosophy". I think it's good there is a discussion about the name, even though it doesn't seem like there is any obvious immediate consensus. Changing the name might only have a small influence over the

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread Arlen Beiler
LOL, I didn't mean to make it sound like it was headed toward PHP! I meant it was headed toward being a stand-alone specification with an implementation in Javascript, but which could be re-implemented in a different language due to the wikitext characteristics. It still could be but NodeJS is

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Arlen This is one of the most interesting overviews I have ever read about TW! I redacted parts of it to foreground the main thrust. Many thanks! TT Arlen Beiler wrote: > > TiddlyWiki is not a multi-user platform. In fact, it is arguably not a > platform at all. It is actually a syntax.

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread CJ Veniot
Arg. My paralysis by analysis is acting up ... Just from a non-technical / user perspective, I see TiddlyWiki as a "*solutions platform*": Getting Things Done (GTD), blogging solution, task management, web site creation, personal note-taking/KM solution, PIM, inventory database (CD/Movie/etc.

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread Arlen Beiler
TiddlyWiki is not a multi-user platform. In fact, it is arguably not a platform at all. It is actually a syntax. It is a specification, not a library. It can be implemented in any language. Jeremy has implemented it in a Javascript library (wikitext parser) and single-user document framework (core

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread David Gifford
https://images.app.goo.gl/ocbyB1U2xTK5wVb98 On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 2:39:40 AM UTC-6, Ste Wilson wrote: > > David wins! Orangutan for the win! Chimp was so last comment! :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread Mohammad
LOL :-) :-) I did not note to the meaning -:) On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 12:09:40 PM UTC+3:30, Ste Wilson wrote: > > David wins! Orangutan for the win! Chimp was so last comment! :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-12 Thread Ste Wilson
David wins! Orangutan for the win! Chimp was so last comment! :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread TonyM
Thanks there for some support on the "platform" All this talk of components does make be think of snap together tools and lego bricks etc... In someways before closing this chapter we do need to stop and think what impresses us the most even if its only to publish content that places such

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread David Gifford
Or Outstanding Ruston App eNabling Great User Tagging And Notetaking Dave On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:04 PM Mohammad wrote: > I vote for this: Content Hypertext Info Management Platform or a suitable > abbreviation! > > Thank you all. > > On Wednesday,

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread CJ Veniot
Componentized Hypertext Information Management Platform ? Looking at Component content management system , I pulled out the following which I think apply to TiddlyWiki: - manages content at a granular level (component)

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread Mohammad
I vote for this: Content Hypertext Info Management Platform or a suitable abbreviation! Thank you all. On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 9:24:40 PM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 6:24:42 PM UTC+1, Julio Peña wrote: >> >> that's funny! >> Good one! >> >> CHIMP:

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 6:24:42 PM UTC+1, Julio Peña wrote: > > that's funny! > Good one! > > CHIMP: "Content Hypertext Info Mgmt Platform"hehehe. > Love that :) I think it should be written without abbreviations to make it even more impressive :) "Content Hypertext

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread Julio Peña
Much Obliged CJ! On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-4, CJ Veniot wrote: > > OMG, que bueno! > > I did not expect that. So frigging awesome (a gift that keeps on > giving)! I will be giggling like a little school girl the rest o' the day. > > Thanks, Julio ! > > > On Wednesday,

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread CJ Veniot
OMG, que bueno! I did not expect that. So frigging awesome (a gift that keeps on giving)! I will be giggling like a little school girl the rest o' the day. Thanks, Julio ! On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 2:24:42 PM UTC-3, Julio Peña wrote: > > that's funny! > Good one! > > CHIMP:

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread Julio Peña
that's funny! Good one! CHIMP: "Content Hypertext Info Mgmt Platform"hehehe. On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-4, CJ Veniot wrote: > > Total aside: I see "CMP" and I immediately think "CHIMP". Riddle me > that ... > -- You received this message because you are

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread CJ Veniot
Loads of potential for discussion, me thinks. Content Management? Knowledge Management? Information Management? Information Mapping? All of those (and then some) have certain meaning, which puts me into serious intertwingulitis. To me, "Platform" is kind of a nice catch all for any and

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread Julio Peña
Hi there all, On CJ's first point: yeah I'd also like the "TW Platform" name for the product as a short name. On CJ's second point: I'd like to see something along the lines of content management (maybe I'm using the wrong term, please forgive me if I am). As I see TiddlyWiki lends itself

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-11 Thread CJ Veniot
Whatever happens, as long as "TiddlyWiki" stays somehow part of the product name, and "Tiddler" stays as the word for a "node" of information (I am rather fond of the "Philosophy of Tiddlers"...), I can't see me having any reason to grumble ... I like TonyM's "TW Platform", if considered the

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-10 Thread CJ Veniot
Well, as an "intertwingulitis" sufferer, everything is connected to everything else by one whole degree of separation. I'm a foodie and have a warped sense of humour, so usually one degree of separation to food and/or wistful wonkiness. All of that just in case anybody thinks I'm just being

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
CJ Veniot wrote: > > Being from Canada I see "tidbit" and I immediately think "H. > Timbits. Must get to Timmy Ho's ..." > Lol! I agree getting something that works is difficult! TT > On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 3:27:07 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >> Ciao R² ... >>> >>> ...

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-10 Thread CJ Veniot
Being from Canada I see "tidbit" and I immediately think "H. Timbits. Must get to Timmy Ho's ..." On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 3:27:07 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao R² ... >> >> ... Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel (of food). 2. >> (computing, informal) A

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-10 Thread CJ Veniot
Although not a fan of renaming good products (and I can't help think it will be a huge pain for an awful lot of folk), I'll just play Devil's advocate ... Gots to be careful to not rebadge TiddlyWiki with something that makes people think of another product. For example, using the word

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-10 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao R² ... > > ... Tiddlers could become tidbits (1. A tasty morsel (of food). 2. > (computing, informal) A quarter of a byte (Half of a nybble; two bits). 3. > (archaic) A short mention of news or gossip.) > FYI I have a domain that went for "tidbits" as its less obscure than "tiddler".

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-10 Thread
Nice discussion! The role of a brand name to convey a powerful impression and is by no means secondary. Tiddlywiki being neither tiddly nor a wiki, the current name generates dissonance and makes it more difficult for newcomers to understand what TW actually is. David Gifford: > > Rustonotes.

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread Mohammad
Yes, while wiki may restrict the scope of work, but as Arlen said, wiki is a simple and quick way of publishing and authoring. It also bind to collaborative multi user system where Tiddlywiki IS not! So, in this respect Tiddlywiki is the opposite! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki --

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread TonyM
Arlen On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 7:37:12 AM UTC+11, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > Wiki is a category which refers to small, easy-to-setup, wall-of-text > content management systems, usually equipped with a simple default theme, > but infinitely customizable with enough time and patience. > >> >>

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread Arlen Beiler
Wiki is a category which refers to small, easy-to-setup, wall-of-text content management systems, usually equipped with a simple default theme, but infinitely customizable with enough tiem and patience. On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 4:17 PM TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Arlen, not a criticism, but what is

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Arlen, not a criticism, but what is the meaning here of "Wiki"? What does it add? My concern about it is its in a way empty of meaning. I think if you used a wiki it makes some sense. But if you haven't? Just gentle thoughts Josiah On Monday, 9 March 2020 21:07:52 UTC+1, Arlen Beiler wrote: >

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread Arlen Beiler
AtomicWiki That's another idea. I think it captures the essence of TiddlyWiki. Or the office suite :) NoteWiki SheetWiki SlideWiki TableWiki More ideas PageWiki Coral Platform (the idea of living building blocks) MinnoWiki seems to carry about as much appeal as TiddlyWiki (if you have no

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
> > My sense is that the real solution to TiddlyWiki gaining more traction in > the marketplace is about creating one or more compelling "killer apps" that > fill widely-perceived, but under-served demands for a particular set of > features rather than avoiding any general aversion to the

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
> Don't think the name is one the issue here? Right. Likely several inter-related issues that might include ... 1 - *Naming:* "Tiddly" & "Tiddler" (I agree with Mark S. they are overall negative), also likely "Wiki" (I'm not convinced it is a Good fit to TW). 2 - *Unclarity: *the problem

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread Mohammad
Mark, have you noted on the stars Tiddlywiki has got on GitHub? 4.6k A very small html app like Shower which creates slides on html5+js+css has got 4.4k If I compare Shower with Tiddlywiki, I give it 10 against 100?

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread TonyM
Eric, I largely agree with you, yet when communicating with others in business I do get strange looks, perhaps that I may be a little crazy. This is a real issue, even my closest friends and families wonder if I am obsessing over the three year olds game. But I believe we need to keep what we

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 8:11:51 PM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote: > > *REAL adults... evaluate the cost/benefit relationship to their > objectives, and adopt whatever tech makes sense to meet their goals.* > > No, they don't. Especially without an introducer. Life is short. People faced with

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 5:05:36 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > I think if we had stats, you'd find that basically there's about 350 > million people > If we had stats... then we would have a number... but without stats, saying "350 million" is just an imagined number. This reminds of an

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I was hoping to find the stats we had about 3 years ago. Apparently they were based on the usage of TiddlyFox. I think if we had stats, you'd find that basically there's about 350 million people who will automatically discount a product that has a childish, non-serious, and embarrassing name

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread CJ Veniot
The first reason I think of to not rename a product, as I threw out there earlier: difficulty finding the wealth of historical TiddlyWiki resources via searches with new product name. Which got me thinking of the pain the caboose in renaming everything associated with TiddlyWiki.

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Amazing! I had the exact same thought today. Well, actually yours is better, the way the W is shared. On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 8:50:48 AM UTC-8, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > What about calling it > > MinnoWiki > > since Minnow is a "little fish" in North America. > > A google search for

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No, it's in a completely different league. "Minnow" may be silly, but "Tiddly" is *childish*. On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 2:55:55 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: > > Arlen, > > Minno is still "diminutive" which was the main argument for a rename, but > if the main reason is to escape tiddly fair

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread TonyM
Arlen, Minno is still "diminutive" which was the main argument for a rename, but if the main reason is to escape tiddly fair enough. Your image is not displaying in the last two replies. Regards Tony On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 3:50:48 AM UTC+11, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > What about calling it

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-07 Thread CJ Veniot
I'd like to +1 that. +AwholeBunch? On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 1:34:24 AM UTC-4, Mal wrote: > > As far as I know, Tiddlywiki has no other meaning in any language, which > gives it a big advantage for web searching. > > Run a web search (duckduckgo - not that other one!) for Tiddlywiki and >

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-06 Thread Mal
As far as I know, Tiddlywiki has no other meaning in any language, which gives it a big advantage for web searching. Run a web search (duckduckgo - not that other one!) for Tiddlywiki and pretty much all the results are directly related to our Tiddlywiki. It would be a shame to lose this

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-06 Thread HC Haase
To chime on how and when to rename TW I made a comment in another thread, where TW mobile aspects is discussed https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/MXXCiHvv-U4/fPIzhv9fAgAJ tldr: make the name change together with a "version jump" to a "version" optimized for mobile touch interfaces. TW

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-05 Thread TonyM
David, On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 4:24:00 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: > > TiddlyWiki is about facilitating an agile mind that can see unexpected > connections between data points, or about sharing those connections with > others. > Ahh, very fashionable the "Agile Ideas" and has AI as

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-05 Thread Julio Peña
Hello all, On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 12:24:00 PM UTC-5, David Gifford wrote: > > TiddlyWiki is about making connections between the ideas we capture... > Which would bring us to a nice marketing slogan*TIDDLYWIKIConnections Through Ideas*. :) Good discussion so far. Best

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-05 Thread David Gifford
Sell people on the person they can become by using the product, not its features. "A million songs in your pocket", not the technical specifications or process of an ipod. TiddlyWiki is about making connections between the ideas we capture. All the features of TiddlyWiki are about new ways to see

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
... WHETHER is is better to focus on the things users DO to make a wiki, their work practice, OR, maybe some outcome (cards, stickles, bits etc.). IS the flag line for TW better reflecting MAKING PROCESS or OUTCOME LOOK? Something like that. Best wishes TT On Thursday, 5 March 2020 18:04:18

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mat wrote > > Actually, it's probably wiser to *not* do this unless Jeremy actually > requests suggestions which he, AFAIK, hasn't. It is very tempting to spin > away about new names (I'm a sinner myself) but in the end this is not a > consensus issue, just like you are the sole baptizer of

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-04 Thread A Gloom
Has no problem with Tiddlywiki, but I can see why some have reserevations, but if you look at the Urban Dictionary-- no word is safe from corruption If the name has to change, call it TW5 (wiki/app/platform/etc) which keeps a link to the old name and refrerences-- and damn the naysayers and

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-03 Thread Luis Gonzalez
To avoid losing all the effort they already got many companies choose a "commercial name" but they continue naming in the same way. I think this is a "marketing" problem. We can choose a "brand" with a strong name but continue calling us Tiddlywiki. This way we don't loose all previous

Re: [tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread CJ Veniot
Having chewed on it a little big more ... Just like I'll never call my Seagull Merlin a Seagull M4, I can't see myself using a re-badged version of TiddlyWiki for my personal use. I am much too fond of "Tiddly", "Wiki", "Tiddler", and everything else TiddlyWiki. Now if anybody has some

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread TonyM
David, *The TiddlyWiki Platform* was emphasised because until you, there was no response positive or negative to my suggestion. Looks like you proved the font size helped.:) I am happy to agree to disagree, but I pride myself on being able to place myself in the position of a naive observer,

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread Suzanne McHale
For myself, I am fine with the TiddlyWiki name - never saw any problem with it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread David Gifford
> > Maybe it might make more sense to have TiddlyWiki as-is, but maybe keep > TiddlyWiki as a "community edition", and have an exact copy of it re-badged > for marketing purposes (a "professional edition")? With a name that > doesn't have either "Tiddly" or "Wiki" in it? I suppose "Tiddler"

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread David Gifford
Hi Tony, Font-size is not a legitimate argument. And I doubt the platform idea is sufficient for some here. Putting 'platform' after, say, Tinky Winky, does not make it sound less ridiculous. And I think there are some here who would say the same about TiddlyWiki. Some of us like myself

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread CJ Veniot
I'm of the mindset that renaming a product causes all kinds of headaches. There is such a wonderful wealth of information about TiddlyWiki on the web. Change the name of a product, and searching the web for resources starts to break down. Similar story: I'm a big fan of the Seagull M4

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread TonyM
As stated before I think we could start with calling it The TiddlyWiki Platform because this removes its "Diminutive nature" while keeping its unique word and making it seem greater than a single idea, it is after all a platform on which you can build almost anything. No rename needed (yet)

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread David Gifford
No, wait, ZettelRuston. On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 5:33:47 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote: > > Rustonotes. End of discussion. > > On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:08:23 AM UTC-6, bimlas wrote: >> >> Continuation of the >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/MKVwkEmCimQ thread. >> >>

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread David Gifford
Rustonotes. End of discussion. On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 7:08:23 AM UTC-6, bimlas wrote: > > Continuation of the > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/MKVwkEmCimQ thread. > > In a nutshell: TiddlyWiki is gaining popularity because it appears in more > articles and podcasts, but

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread Handoko Suwono
Hi Julio, A good summary of what TW can do. I think we all should wait renaming until another revision is going to uphold. It's like TW classic being updated to TW5 which was then a major revision (but no series of nicknames as the Apple iOS does). Ever since I believe many people are still

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread @magasine
Folks, I have followed this topic. As described in TiddlyWiki: "(...) The fundamental idea is that information is more useful and reusable if we cut it up into the smallest semantically meaningful chunks (...)" This describes the value of modularity, which is intrinsic in its construction,

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread Julio Peña
Hey there Mat, Oh n, you are 1000% correct! I would never suggest to go over anyone's head. Heavens forbid. I was just stating for the eventuality of such. It's why I stated at the beginning that I was trying to phrase my thoughts the best I could. Many blessings, Julio On Monday, March

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread Mat
Julio Peña wrote: > > All we have to do is keep those creative juices > flowing until we hit on something everyone agrees upon:) > Actually, it's probably wiser to *not* do this unless Jeremy actually requests suggestions which he, AFAIK, hasn't. It is very tempting to spin away about new

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread Julio Peña
Hello all, I'll try my best to phrase my thoughts. I've already seen some name samples thrown out there in the other thread. All we have to do is keep those creative juices flowing until we hit on something everyone agrees upon:) In order to pick out a name one would have to ponder the

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread Mohammad
Absolutely yes! In previous thread some people stated that Tiddlywiki has some other barriers like saving and we need to focus on them and changing the name has no priority or has no effect on such issues While I respect those opinions and I believe to work on those area, but keeping the

[tw5] Re: Consider renaming TiddlyWiki

2020-03-02 Thread David
Yeah, I've just started using it to track some projects at work. Saying the name to most co-workers does give me a twinge of embarrassment. On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 8:08:23 AM UTC-5, bimlas wrote: > > Continuation of the > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/MKVwkEmCimQ