DaveH says:"LanceI think you've done a
reasonable job of assessing my position." I'm going to restate that which I deem
central and, ask for as direct a response if you feel comfortable giving one
publicly. Should you wish to contact me privately, I'd honour that privacy. IFF
Joseph
Dave Hansen wrote:
I suppose there is a zoo-like atmosphere here. And as an
outsider, it is certainly interesting to view the home life of real
Christians, so to speak. One thing I've realized is that if
I were
ever to leave Mormonism, TT Christianity is the last place I'd seek
Amen to Terry's recent comment regrding the zoo.
On another subject: the following is the Preamble to the Constitution of Massachusetts ... the home of the first public and free school in America. If that document were written today - I think it safe to assume that it would be worded quite
This is exactly what is going on with the kids today.
Just 2 weeks ago a average looking 13 year old told us all her friends are gay she sees nothing wrong with it.a 13 year old should not know about such stuff. Of course she knew nothing biblical. BUT she knew thatthe Bible was False and
And the picture Deegan presents may be typical for his area. But it is not so out here. I have a friend who teaches high school -- a math major. Well, he was given a semester assignment in teaching science. He decided to take a deep breath and make a statement about evolution and Christianity.He
I contend for THE Faith as I have been commanded.
It is in the BOOK, (Jude)
READ IT
and
HEED IT!
Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Why do you feel so insecure that you need to contend for your faith, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote:
It is called earnestly "Contending for the faith ONCE
Right.
Everything is just fine don't you worry.
Kids killing other kids
Children getting pregnant
Sodomites doing it in the streets
Go see for yourself.
Go to the arena and just watch the kids as they arrive.
Go to the schoolyard and talk to the kids.
Go to the public festivals.
go to the super
It has nothing to do with 'insecurity' DaveH; Kevin is being obedient to
the Word of God to our generation.
In Jude we are told to contend for the faith "once" delivered to the
saints. Note that it was not "half delivered"
with the other half coming later by way of JS. jt
Dave Hansen [EMAIL
Exactly right Kevin.
Our daughter teaches 2nd soon to be 3rd grade and another family member
works with kindergarten
Innocence is a thing of the past. Latch-key kids watch Jerry Springer when
they get home from school and
she has heard them call their mother a ho. When there are problems
the
Dave Hansen wrote: I suppose there is a
zoo-like atmosphere here. And as an outsider, it is certainly
interesting to view the home life of real Christians, so to
speak. One thing I've realized is that if I were ever to leave Mormonism,
TT Christianity is the last place I'd seek refuge. In
This has to do with my question for Blaine as to why the LDS are so insecure that they need to call people "ANTIS"
Of course there was no reasonable answer.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has nothing to do with 'insecurity' DaveH; Kevin is being obedient to the Word of God to our
One of these days I am going to fold up my TENT and GO HOME!
PTL!!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote: I suppose there is a zoo-like atmosphere here. And as an outsider, it is certainly interesting to view the home life of real Christians, so to speak.
I think that most of you would be shocked to see what is going on.
I have been doing this for over 20 years.
In the last year things have accelerated to the point that even I am amazed at the vile, lewd and lock step nature of the public.
Just this past week we preached at an "family" Arts
Not sure what you are objecting to in my post. No one saidall "is just fine." The post was pretty specific.Look up the words "contending" and "contentious." Might be of interest to you. It was to me.
JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo:
http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/bodypiercing.htm
"Another generation grew up, who knew neither the Lord nor what He had done . . . they followed and worshipped various gods . . . They provoked the Lord to anger." Judges 2:10-12
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly right Kevin.
Our
Not exactly right. Here is a list of those contributing to the blatant contentiousness found on this forum: Me, Deegan, Judy and Linda Shields. Miller contributes in a negative way but his contribution is not as much a contrast as in those who are mentioned above. Terry, Lance, Marlin, Blaine,
One instance in a clasroom does not make for a trend.
The trend is back to the BIBLE or Back to the Jungle!
Welcome to JUNGLE USA.
Dog eat Dog
Survival of the fitest.
Look up the word disagree[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not sure what you are objecting to in my post. No one saidall "is just
Funny -- I was adding the phrase "Terry, Lance, Marlin, Blaine, DAvid H and whoever are herein found to be reasonbly guiltless" and before I could get the guiltless parttyped in -- the computer sent the post --- Divine implications ?
JD
-Original
Youre always repenting but you never really change except by words!
You talk and do not do.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not exactly right. Here is a list of those contributing to the blatant contentiousness found on this forum: Me, Deegan, Judy and Linda Shields. Miller contributes in a negative
Kevin,
The key word here is "sacred" . . . which alludes to being
associated with passages of sacred writ--such is the DC.
In a message dated 6/16/2005 1:43:01 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Oliver Granger?" I am not sure (emphasis on "not sure")
that
Funny -- I was adding the phrase "Terry, Lance, Marlin, Blaine, DAvid H and whoever are herein found to be reasonbly guiltless" and before I could get the guiltless parttyped in -- the computer sent the post --- Divine implications ?
Anywho -- correctionshave been
By the way did you know that Paul was VERY CONTENTIOUS?
I did not say Contending but CONTENTIOUS.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not exactly right. Here is a list of those contributing to the blatant contentiousness found on this forum: Me, Deegan, Judy and Linda Shields. Miller contributes in a
Judy Taylor wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
I suppose there is a zoo-like atmosphere here. And as an
outsider, it is certainly interesting to view the home life of real
Christians, so to speak. One thing I've realized is that if
I were ever to leave Mormonism, TT Christianity is
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
IFGod is speaking to you see thou to it.
Act 4:19 Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.
Technically, it is called confessing. And we are told that if we keep on confessing, He is faithful and just to have forgiven us our sins ( I Jo 1:9). James says very much the same thing when he admonishes us via the first saints to keep on confessing our sins one to another so that we might be
If you use the word to mean simply "disagree," certainly I am aware of it. If you use the word to mean an emotionally based objecting that insults and disgraces those who listen, no I am not. I believe Paulwas an emotional man. He could go over the line. But when it came down to where the rubber
DAVEH: As I explained to Judy this morning, I was using home life in
rather loose terms Terry. I somewhat regret speaking critically of my
TT friends, but I do have a unique perspective of TT that I thought was
being sought. My intention wasn't to kick either you or anybody
else. It's just my
Maybe I'm too idealistic, but I would like to think Christians can feel at home when in the presence of each other. Where the saints are, there also will be found the spirit of the Lord. At least that's what I believe. Do you feel similar?
That is the problem you are a "Latter Day Saint" not a
Can you produce scripture showing, when he supposedly went over the line?
Can you produce scripture of God's displeasure with such?
I use the WORD CONTENTIOUS. Did you know paul was Contentious not just disagreeable?
You say( I Cor 1).
It is in there somewhere ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance Muir wrote:
DaveH says:"LanceI think you've
done a reasonable job of assessing my position." I'm going to restate
that which I deem central and, ask for as direct a response if you feel
comfortable giving one publicly. Should you wish to contact me
privately, I'd honour
Do you feel the presence of the Lord in TT?
What is this the Church of TT or something? I think you look in the wrong place.
If I were to give you a FULL ALL EXPENSE paid trip to the Holy Land to see where Jesus walked, most would jump on that.
Yet that is whereHe WAS.
Open the pages of the Bible
DAVEH: LOLI noted that you also forgot to include our
moderator on any of your lists, John. Was that also by divine
inspiration? :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Funny -- I was adding the phrase "Terry, Lance, Marlin,
Blaine, DAvid H and whoever are herein found to be
As an emotional type -- he could go over the line.When he wishes that the Judaizers mutilate themselves, I think that is over the top. Keep in mind -- when you use that _expression_, you think someone is going to hell. I just think they went over the top.
Couldn't find anything in I
I am curious -- if you (Dave H) extract all that which is unique to Mormonism -- emphais on "unique" -- What would remain that might find your thinking in common with us "Protestants"?
JD-Original Message-From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 17
My honest opinion is that you would make a fine neighbor. Most of
the Mormons here are very nice people.
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: If I were to move to Florida Terry, would you welcome me? :-)
Terry Clifton wrote:
Don't believe everything you hear. We have an abundant
HolyMoly !!! .. "that is where He WAS" !?? I have felt the presence of the Lord here on TT in the distant past -- about the time my eyes opened to the fuller gospel of grace. A number of specific posts have been written, one by Debbie, another by Terry, Judy once or
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Do you feel the presence of the Lord in TT?
What is this the Church of TT or something? I think you look in
the wrong place.
DAVEH: Can't argue with that, Kevin. Doesn't seem like the spirit of
the Lord is here.
If I were to give you a FULL ALL EXPENSE paid
Oh -- by the way -- Jonathan Hughs has rung my bell on several occasions !!!
JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:13:40 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] To the Mormons: public/participating private/watching on TT
HolyMoly
DAVEH: Ohh.I was wondering what that clanging noise
was :-D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh -- by the way -- Jonathan Hughs has rung my bell on
several occasions !!!
JD
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri,
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Maybe I'm too idealistic, but I would like to think
Christians can feel at home when in the presence of each
other. Where the saints are, there also will be found the spirit of
the Lord. At least that's what I believe. Do you feel similar?
That is the problem you
Amazing. Also thanks to JD for the Mass.
Constitution. Hasnt Ted Kennedy brought it a long way? (DOWN) Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:08
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
That clangingsound helps to explain my crossed eye condition.
JD-Original Message-From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:22:45 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] To the Mormons: public/participating private/watching on TT
DAVEH:
Homos make great neighbors, too. (Keep
the yard and house looking great, etc.) Doesnt mean Id like to be
one. J Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:10
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
I scoff at your insult. Ha! Izzy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not exactly
right. Here is a list of those contributing to the blatant
contentiousness found
on this forum: Me, Deegan,
Judy and Linda Shields.
DAVEH: OI just thought it was a result of you trying
to keep your eyes on both Judy and Kevin at the same time! ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That clangingsound helps to explain my crossed eye condition.
JD
-Original Message-
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL
DAVEH: From my LDS perspective, you answer is peculiar, Terry. Do you
not equate what you describe as urgings of the HS to feelings?
If you base your beliefs on hard evidence, does that not become
risky? Does your faith in Jesus require hard evidence?
Terry Clifton wrote:
Dave Hansen
A Izzy.and Terry was just making me feel so good about
myself, I was thinking about moving down his way! Now I'll have to
reconsider 8-)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Homos make
great neighbors, too. (Keep
the yard and house looking great, etc.) Doesnt mean Id
Funny but, on the whole, 'fundies' don't (you being
an exception, of course!).
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 17, 2005 14:48
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NYTimes.com:
Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths, This Time
DAVEH: That our Lord and Savior has made it possible for us to return
to heaven someday.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious -- if you (Dave H) extract all that which is
unique to Mormonism -- emphais on "unique" -- What would remain
that might find your thinking in common with us
Blaine: Yes, Mr Moderator, it was over the top. You and Kevin
live there, it sometimes seems.
In a message dated 6/14/2005 10:58:41 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mr.
Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary.L- Original
Message - From: "Charles
Ohh, Judy, your biases are so showing! In post after
post, you presume to knowso muchabout the Mormon religion. I am
betting you actually know very little. If I am wrong, please supply
me with a little real argument/evidence to show me you are truly in the
know. The last time I called
In a message dated 6/14/2005 4:33:33 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, good
grief! What is this, Political Correctness 101? I could throw up.Hey
Blaine are you beliefs "profaned" by the pitter patter of littlefeeties???
Or should our little feeties pitter
No -- but you have hit on the reason swhy I have lost all my hair !! Bald and cross-eyed, missing two fingers on one hand, walk with a limp (that is the first stage after one learns to walk upright) -- and some wonder why I haven't post my picture !!! Yikes !!
How does that go? Oh yeah!! "Truth hurts." But no insult intended. Please notice that I included my self in the gang of four. Would any on this forum disagree with my analysis other those in the gang?
JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
Blaine: So, give us a url.
In a message dated 6/15/2005 1:16:21 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The
Anthon manuscript exists and is in the hands of the"Reorganized"LDS or
Comm of ChristToday if we look at it, available online, we can easily
see it is afraud!
Blaine: Did I write the below stuff to Perry only? I should
have included you, Kevin, in the greeting. :) Just
substitute your name for Perry's, then re-read the comments.
In a message dated 6/15/2005 2:51:55 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do not doubt you one
Responding to your questions posted below, Dave.
Answer to point one: The urgings I have had from the Holy Spirit were
imperatives. I was driven to share the Gospel with an individual here
and there. I was driven to start a home church. I was driven to teach
the truth concerning divorce, even
For me it would be a big waste of time Blaine.
Both Perry and Kevin have gone the extra mile so far as Mormonism is concerned
and it seems to make not one bit of difference - probably because religious
spirits are behind all cult activity and it is impossible to reason them away, especially
If you are not familar with this publication, you may find it worthwhile to subscribe.
Jd
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You may be Terrys neighbor any
time, DaveH! (Mine, too.) Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:57
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
NYTimes.com: Revisiting '64 Civil Rights Deaths,
I do agree with the part where you said that YOU are contentious.
:-) Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 2:58 PMTo:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
How does that go? Oh
Why would Blaine want Judy to dis-prove Mormonism?
Because he cant prove it! Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 4:03
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
DAVEH: Yeahbut will I be invited for Thanksgiving and Christmas
dinner??? :-)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
You may be
Terrys neighbor any
time, DaveH! (Mine, too.) Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Friday,
DAVEH: I don't think proud describes the way I perceive my tenacious
association with LDS theology, Judy. My faith is less than a mustard
seed, but a significant part of my life nonetheless. And, as I've
mentioned before, I am very comfortable with my LDS biased beliefs.
Culturally, Mormonism
DAVEH: Yes Terry, I understood your comments and appreciate you
sharing them with me. Thanx.
Terry Clifton wrote:
Responding to your questions posted below, Dave.
Answer to point one: The urgings I have had from the Holy Spirit were
imperatives. I was driven to share the Gospel with an
When was the last time you, Judy Taylor or Kevin Deegan acknowledged the moderator and corrected his/her writing style with "understood" or "you're the boss, I will do it differently in the future" or something similar? I have. David Miller has even responded in a positive way on occasion of
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