[TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin IS A MISNOMER

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:15:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cross, presenting that sacrifice delivered once and for all time, gives the addicted believer all the time in this world to get the job done because he is ALREADY reconciled to God in Christ. I thought it

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Seminarians addicted to pornography and homosexuality should be right in their element in the "streets of the city" ... Sure doesn't say much for the theology they were taught at that seminary does it? But then look at the rcc homosexual/pedophile scandal - pornography is just another aspect

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
essfully. I perceive each to be superior to me so.. From: Judy Taylor Can you describe what you call "being teachable" looks like for us Lance? On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:33:12 -0500 "

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
one on TT is teachable! 2. 'personal brand of humility'? NO! From: Judy Taylor I like what Iz says also Lance; but I am curious about your definition since you are constantly making public note of the fact that noone who differs from you on TT is "teachable&

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
A couple of questionsLance; 1. Is John Wilson preterist like you and is "preterism" his gospel? 2. What is "personhood" and where would one get the idea that Jesus had come to redeem it? John wrote: She said she never felt the church was interested in who she was as a person. I told her

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
ussed at great length. As I recall, you found the observations concerning it ('personhood') both ridiculous and humorous. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Se

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
able?" On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:26:29 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No Judy, I'm quite sure. Bill, David and John went on at some length concerning 'personhood'. No matter Judy, as your responses then were just like now. From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Why not? You seem to expect answers to your frequent questions Lance Do you have a reason - or just being contrary?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't BE answering you on this, Judy. From: Judy Taylor You still haven't

[TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff andfinally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-09 Thread Judy Taylor
andfinally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth"

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance you talk like they are holding a "doctrinal seminar" out there. Their message is "Repent or Perish" which are the only options in my Bible. What do you think they should be saying "God has a wonderful plan for your life .. his son was incarnated into the womb of his mother so that you

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Badmouthing GWB is at best ignorance. Our youngest girl's flatmate was a missionary to the Ukraine for 5yrs andhas just gotten back from a trip to Germany by way of the Ukraine to visit her friends there. She speaksRussian and when the plane couldn't land because of fog was able to

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Can you describe what you call "being teachable" looks like for us Lance? On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:33:12 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a rather large distinction between agreeing with you Kevin, and being teachable. - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
ce Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How could one ask for more than to be present on a 'chat room' where ppl illustrate the absence of a democratic frame of mind? From: Judy Taylor Badmouthing GWB is at best ignorance. Our youngest girl's flatmate was a missi

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:28:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How could one ask for more than to be present on a 'chat room' where ppl illustrate the absence of a democratic frame of mind? From: Judy Taylor Badmouthing GWB is at

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
p thou misseth the point, Judy? From: Judy Taylor The United States of America is not a Democracy Lance; it is a Democratic Republic - which is good training because God's Kingdom is not a "Democracy" either. You should be relieved that the will of

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Judy Taylor The lines may be blurred in countries like the US, Canada, Australia, and the UK (to all but the SP's :) However, they are quite apparent to anyone who has lived in a third world country recently. I was commenting on the article in the curren

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
but, surprised when I find it in others. (you) From: Judy Taylor What is your comment supposed to mean Lance? What does GWB have to do with what I have been discussing? As I have noted before - you are forever locked into the personal On Wed, 8 Mar

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Can you do this Lance? Are you saying that Dean is called to be a teacher to the body of Christ? Rather than proof-texting (the exceptions having been Bill, David and John), are you able to open say the gospel of John or the book of Ephesians and, thereafter explain it in it's entirety

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
PROTECTED] writes: Nothing of the kind, Judy. I only wish for it to be legitimate in a democratic society. Apparently, you do not. I actually understand this kind of thinking. From: Judy Taylor What's this "stream of consciousness" business... don't you th

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
1. If they are not illegitimate why do you badmouth him as much as you do? 2. One of us is a liar - and since IYO noone can know truth anyway - which one is it? On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:18:04 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. No. 2. I do. From: J

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
2006 21:33:27 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: indeed, it suggests you are incapable of thinking an original thought On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:16:22 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No evidence suggests that I am not in the habit of proof texting

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
variation if 'the motor is to run smoothly.' How then shall we expect that broadmindedness shall rule in the realm of Christianity and morals? He that forsakes the truth of God, forsakes the God of truth. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TRUTH IS Jesus Christ. He

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
society?Kevin, Judy and, Dean are simply at their respective best(s). From: Judy Taylor He gottcha Lance - of course "discerning between good and evil is in the Bible and Kevin knows this.. as for your plethora of words... No telling where they are from

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
the realm of Christianity and morals? He that forsakes the truth of God, forsakes the God of truth. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TRUTH IS Jesus Christ. He is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:34:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
TED] writes: Gary is the one artist on TT. From: Judy Taylor I thank the Lord for that if what you have been proferring are "original thoughts" Remember GO - There is nothing new under the sun, it has all been thought, said, and done before. Your so calle

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
John Lennon and three year olds On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 06:39:56 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Imagination anyone? From: Judy Taylor Hey Kevin, this is excellent - one question - is thereroom for "original thoughts?" On Mon, 6 Mar

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
as if you, Kevin and, Dean should be followed/heeded as the only interpreters of Scripture. Sorry but, that just won't cut it. From: Judy Taylor Sorry, wouldn't work because responsibility before God remains with the individual However, if it were possible a

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
is your writing. Is that sufficient to know you well? No. Is it sufficient to get a sense of you? Yup! From: Judy Taylor I'm kind of fascinated at how "person" oriented you are Lance - it's all about your judgment of people isn't it? Some you show more deference than ot

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
ite and, I read you. Thus, an answer to 'where'. From: Judy Taylor Then where do all the opinions and appraisals from your email address originate? You are critical of DM and defer to DZ On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 06:45:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PR

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
at their respective best(s). From: Judy Taylor He gottcha Lance - of course "discerning between good and evil is in the Bible and Kevin knows this.. as for your plethora of words... No telling where they are from

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
and arts found in Israel? Can you show me chapter and verse please? On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:04:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Artists abound in Scripture. Did you lose your 'strong's'? From: Judy Taylor Yes, well are you saying that Godneeds some

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
And as Lance is wont to say - I refuse and demand that you take the lead and send us photos and a case study On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:29:29 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You first as Judy is wont to say. From: Judy Taylor Have you ever apologized an

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
:03:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW (with this crowd that's about zip) the imagination plays a key role in all of life/thought. From: Judy Taylor John Lennon and three year olds On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 06:39:56 -0500 "Lance Muir&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
preters of Scripture. Sorry but, that just won't cut it. From: Judy Taylor Sorry, wouldn't work because responsibility before God remains with the individual However, if it were possible at least

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
al Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 07, 2006 06:53 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel. You still don't get

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
t; [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Imagination anyone? From: Judy Taylor Hey Kevin, this is excellent - one question - is thereroom for "original thoughts?" On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:24:1

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Worthless, why would anyone want to quote jibberish? God's Word is to do - rather than explore and use forexperimentation On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:56:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (an original thought for jt to quote:) On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:44:26 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Gary jt has not trimmed one jot or tittle from the holy writ 1 Cor 13:12 is of course, comparitively speaking, in light of the "Risen Christ". However, I also believe 1 Cor 13:13 "And NOW abideth faith - faith in what? Your incoherrent musings, Dylans, those of John Lennon?Lance's opinions?

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
may i respectfully disagree ... depends on what hair is being split; I find continual social commentary about how bad things are, how evil mankind is, and how dangerous GBW is to the rest of the worldcounter productive and worse than a waste of time about on parwith agonizing over doctrines

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
He gottcha Lance - of course "discerning between good and evil is in the Bible and Kevin knows this.. as for your plethora of words... No telling where they are from On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:31:28 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither are a plethora of other words!

[TruthTalk] WOOHOO Lance - Here is someone saying the same thing as me..!!

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
The Seven Great Lies of Organized Religion ~~~ Lie #3: 'You are not smart enough or good enough to think for yourself. We will do your thinking for you.' ~~~ Judy, Do you know what the most important invention in the history of the world was? It wasn't the computer. And it

[TruthTalk] The Good Will of Allah

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Did you all get this?? (AP) Mohammed Reza Taheriazar TOP STORYUNC Grad in Court on Alleged Hit and Run A University of North Carolina graduate from Iran, accused of running down nine people on campus to avenge the treatment of Muslims, said at

Re: [TruthTalk] An Offensive Gospel.

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
around the Sun, gravity dictates the ebb flow of Earth's oceanic tides, 'truth came through Jesus Christ') On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:38:14 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth

2006-03-06 Thread Judy Taylor
practice for you as in this case w/ 1 Cor 13:12-- evidence suggests its meaning never has registered w/ you On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:10:47 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt has not trimmed one jot or tittle from the holy writ

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] emailing: sinnersinhand

2006-03-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy gets what is important and so does Dean What you don't get in all of your mental gyrations and rationalizing is that the scriptures are "spiritually discerned" period. Your head is not up to the job On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 06:53:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -

Re: [TruthTalk] The 2 Spirits of truthtalk?

2006-03-05 Thread Judy Taylor
No problem with spelling - We read him loud and clear - You go KD!!! On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:09:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Intelligentsia (INTELIGENSIA - SP) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-05 Thread Judy Taylor
V.27 NEITHER GIVE PLACE TO THE DEVIL On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 10:13:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eph 4:26 - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 05, 2006 10:09 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit'

Re: [TruthTalk] Fear and cowardice

2006-03-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Why? What is wrong with this _expression_ when used appropriately? judyt On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:05:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll pass on this as I see daddy lurking nearby with a verbal baseball bat. (Just a suggestion Christine, lose the _expression_ 'I am

Re: [TruthTalk]

2006-03-04 Thread Judy Taylor
How sad that you and he seem to be so alone in your dp perceptions Yet you are continually talking about community and relationship; neither happens apart from communication. judyt On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:09:04 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do believe that the G-man is

[TruthTalk] Welcome to Lances Film Fantasy Talk List

2006-03-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Good to see you back Izzy, judyt On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:26:19 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First Dean, that was not the point of my reference. What does it say of you that your mind would go to that part of the film? I showed someone the trailer yesterday so as to

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-03 Thread Judy Taylor
I suspect he just might be a ROMAN CATholic himself Kevin; Izzy would say that judyt On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 03:44:36 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then why do you blame "Christians" for Rwandan genocide when it was ROMAN CATholics? Get your facts

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-03-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi David, Luther was singing in Church before Calvin and his Geneva experiment. In fact there was a big controversy over whether or not he brough bar room tunes into the church putting different tunes to them. I don't personally know any song introduced by Calvin but Ilove "A Mighty

Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-03-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Sorry ... I meant different words ... it's early On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:47:34 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi David, Luther was singing in Church before Calvin and his Geneva experiment. In fact there was a big controversy over whether or not he brough bar

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance, you have a different definition of "believer" or Christian than that of Christ Apparently you don't really believe that "YOU WILL KNOW them by their fruit" (Matt 12:33) or that murderers along with certain others "DO NOT inherit the Kingdom" (1 Cor 6:9) Whose gospel DO you believe???

Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........

2006-03-02 Thread Judy Taylor
That's easy Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self contol. On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 06:02:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-02 Thread Judy Taylor
IL PROTECTED] writes: SOMEONE needs a history lesson! It'd appear that outright pagans understand the behaviour of 'believers/christians' better than 'believers/christians' do. From: Kevin Deegan And he needs a history lesson!Judy Taylor [EMAIL P

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-03-01 Thread Judy Taylor
Imagine there was no fall ... Pure fantasy ... whereas truth is reality Fantasy breeds need On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:46:10 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:21:01 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] An excellent Article on Islam Today

2006-03-01 Thread Judy Taylor
Thanks for this Kevin; Interesting testimony and I'm glad you are still around. judyt On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:17:16 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ask someone who has been there. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=21364 Christine Miller [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Not Going to Criticize This?

2006-02-28 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 06:38:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christine:The following is an edited response to an edit of your post: Noone appreciates criticism and, I do mean noone! When that which you revere is criticised, it matters more. It (Islam), historically,

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-02-28 Thread Judy Taylor
No Lance, we preach Christ and Him crucified who in and of Himself is an affront and a rock of offense to all you have named below. On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:15:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mock a Mormon - Amen! Irritate Islam - Praise the Lord! Confront Christianity by

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
-0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly! From: Judy Taylor I was in too much of a hurry; I meant to say I do disagree Lance because as I see it some choose to walk in darkness; while others embrace the light and as scripture says

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Has Canada had a tsnuami? Is this a new Lance or what? On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:17:38 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.in

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
me meaning, Judy. This is, after all, what TT is about, is it not? My 'exactly' is, of course, God's 'exactly'. Once that is understood we can move on. From: Judy Taylor Has Canada had a tsnuami? Is this a new Lance or what? On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:17:38 -0500 &

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
something more than that. That's not OK. - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 08:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men F

[TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
FWIW in the Religion section of The Daily Break, Virginia Pilot yesterday there was a photo taken by Delores Johnson, staff photographer of young parishoners at St. Luke Catholic Church in VaBch on their knees paying "homage to the host" during prayer and "adoration" Do you know what the

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
ement, not his. 5. I hold scripture in the highest regard. I just don't hold in high regard is misuse. Who would? I have no idea Lance, I only know that where ones treasure is their heart is also and that "out of the abundance that fills the heart, the mouth speaks. Fr

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Exactly who is helping them Lance? Surely you do not believe Jesus is the wafer in the glass center of this RC Monstrance? On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:04:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is, IMO, helping them. Lord help you, Judy! From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
e from 'Cool Hand Luke', 'what we have here is a failure to communicate'. From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:46:10 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. The 'way you see it' Judy, is false. Says who and upon what

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
the blind. jt On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:04:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is, IMO, helping them. Lord help you, Judy! From: Judy Taylor FWIW in the Religion section of The Daily Break, Virginia Pilot yesterday there was a photo taken by Delor

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Hi David: I'm not ready to pronounce either sainthood or damnation on any soulliving or dead since that authority has been given but not to me. BTW the Psalms are worship songs - and thesewere a reality long before Calvin. From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lance wrote: Insofar as one

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
ubbornly cannot hear the other side. Or it happens when God closes the eyes, ears, and heart as he has done with the Jews and others who reject His Truth. David Miller - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
you wished it. From: Judy Taylor On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:06:42 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy, while it is helpful to look at differences, communication also requires looking at areas of agreement. Surely there is som

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance Are Dean and I to believe Lance that you perceive these two men to be "conformed to the image of Christ" in their generation? I had never heard of the "oversize bird cages" do you know about this Lance? On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:03 -0500

[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
'bad person' here) is a conclusion. I don't feel the need to identify that conclusion.These conclusions are attempt circumventing genuine dialogue.In some/many cases there exists no wish to 'dialogue' whatsoever'. From: Judy Taylor Are Dean and I to believe Lance that y

[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance Thank you Dean, I see this also and can not for the life of me understand why some hold these men in such reverence. Luther once complained about the "pagan wretch" Aristotle whose words ppl were paying more attention to thanthe Words of

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
does.Would you be so kind as to answer, giving your own opinions, concerning the aforementioned persons? From: Judy Taylor Well Lance, you have taken up an offence for the so called "church fathers" where IMO the Church has just one Father and only one

[TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
You speak as though there were no "objective Truth" Lance and to me it appears as though this is where you live. Not so for me and others. We may bethe minority but then just because your opinion a majority or ecumenical one; this ishardly a recommendation - is it?? On Sun, 26 Feb 2006

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
and he either opens or closes the understanding nothing by chance... On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:58:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see EVER BELIEVER AS HOLDING PART TRUTH AND PART ERROR. From: Judy Taylor Thank you Dean, I see this al

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
ED] writes: THERE IS OBJECTIVE TRUTH!! You, Judy, see some of it. Everybody on the planet sees some of it. Nobody, including you, has all of it. Do you disagree? From: Judy Taylor You speak as though there were no "objective Truth" Lance and to me it appears as

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-26 Thread Judy Taylor
This is, IMO, being made unnecessarily complex. From: Judy Taylor No Lance I don't because the condemnation is that some prefer darkness to light and refuse to come. I believe somewalk in complete and total darkness and there is little or no fear of God in

[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Hopefully the same kind of insular world as Caleb and Joshua in Numbers 14:36-42who took the Word of the Lord more seriously than the rest and whose lives had a totally different outcome than the rest of their generation because of it. From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Dean. with an

Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Judy Taylor
Correction!! Study helps do not give "understanding" Lance. Only the Holy Spirit can give "understanding" Historical background is not "understanding" per se. One can knowall ABOUT something and be completely void of "understanding" or spiritually ignorant just like the scribes and

[TruthTalk] Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Judy Taylor
You've worded this in such a way as to suggest that God wouldn't 'use' those things I mentioned. He does. You appear to have missed the main thrust of my point to Dean. That's OK. From: Judy Taylor Correction!! Study helps do not give "understanding"

[TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-24 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentanceJudy wrote: Both Luther and Calvin were Priests of the RCC Actually, Luther was a priest, but Calvin was not. Calvin was a lawyer. If memory serves me correctly, Calvin was never even a member of the RCC.

Re: [TruthTalk] Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

2006-02-24 Thread Judy Taylor
something mean more than it can. From: Judy Taylor Lance it amazes me that so many think they know exactly what God would and would not do - Yet their ideas are diametrically opposed to His Ways. What was the main thrust of your point to Dean that I missed?

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance

2006-02-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Penance has nothing to do with anything Lance, nor does quote "our modern psychological equivalent" They are both a moot point because they aredifferent from repentance. Your friend is too far out there. On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:54:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -

[TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-22 Thread Judy Taylor
Limbaugh's father is or was a believer; he does not profess to be one and neither does Cheney other than possibly the nominal kind. Where do you get your information from Lance? Nominal ppl who say they are Christians are "natural men" From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]David said:

[TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-22 Thread Judy Taylor
This appears to be a 'one way street' at this point Tell me Lance - are you open to correction? By whom will you be shown? Most definitely not by David Miller - this is quite obvious. From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] No SHOUTING!! from my end, David. I see you as someone who, for

Re: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-22 Thread Judy Taylor
The rest is with God. From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 22, 2006 09:45 Subject: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin Limbaugh's father is or was a believer; he does not profess to be one and neither does Cheney

Re: [TruthTalk] Let 'Haliburton' = Sin

2006-02-22 Thread Judy Taylor
ones' on TT over just such as this. I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE that both of the aforementioned can be both believers and 'guilty as charged'. Don't you? From: Judy Taylor Proof of the pudding is in the eating Lance - and out of the abundance that fills the heart the m

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: repentance sin and everything

2006-02-21 Thread Judy Taylor
I have to leave the house so can't give this a thorough going over but what strikes me off the top is the quote below along with reference to CSL and TFT; So whatiscorporate about personal responsibility even though a moral ppl will in turn make a moral nation? The apostle Peter addresses

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-20 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance the following may be ofhelp you because this is basically the issue you and David are dealing with. He believes it is possible. You do not judyt The Barna Update: February 20, 2006“Be holy because I am holy” are God’s words to His people. Buthow many Christians believe that God has

[TruthTalk] Holiness

2006-02-20 Thread Judy Taylor
nversation. thanks for your input, Lance - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 20, 2006 11:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative Lance the following may be

Re: [TruthTalk] Holiness

2006-02-20 Thread Judy Taylor
t meanings. Please know that I don't have any difficulty in Scripture's admonition to 'be holy'. What I do have difficulty in understanding from DM, JT and CD has to do with the presence of the absence of holiness. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Holiness

2006-02-20 Thread Judy Taylor
han those spoken is: Do you, DMand CD do anything on a given day that is 'unholy'? - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 20, 2006 12:55 Sub

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm glad for you Lance because if you did the only sign it would be isa sign of your ignorance. Thisshould read as follows: "BEHOLD DAVID MILLER, REDEEMED FROM THE CURSE, ONE WHO IS BOUGHT WITH A PRICE AND WHO IS PRESENTLYTHE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST RESIDES AT THIS HOME". Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Not true Lance; EVERYONE is not the righteousness of God in Christ On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:01:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EVERYONE IS, JUDY. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:

Re: [TruthTalk] the fall and the fig leaf

2006-02-18 Thread Judy Taylor
You sound like a follower of Bill Taylor JD; positioning in eis?? - Lands sakes!! what next?? Christ is not a NEW LAW. In fact there is NO NEW LAW. There is nothing new under the sun and God has never ever changed His character or His standards; they are the same now as they were back then.

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-15 Thread Judy Taylor
roup-right or wrong. From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/14/2006 7:50:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding BSF/Groupthink? Hmm From: Judy

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