DAVEH: HmmI'm a bit
confused about this, Kevin. Are you using a different definition
for Baptists than is normally recognized? Or, do you belong to an
off-shoot branch of the Baptist tree? The reason I ask this is that
my WORLD BOOK Encyclopedia says this about Baptists:
"Baptists
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH,
Okay, now I get it. You are here to learn what Protestants believe.
DAVEH: Thank you, Perry. Though I must admit...I am slightly tempted
to keep believing you really don't
DaveH wrote:
Haven't you ever wondered why Jesus was chosen before
the foundation of the world to be our Savior IF God
was expecting AE wouldn't partake of the FF? I bet
that isn't something that is discussed much in Protestant
circles.
You are misunderstanding something here, Dave.
Perry wrote:
Furthermore, saying that you are not on TT to learn
the truth has born itself out many times. Kevin has
posted many statements published in LDS literature
by your own leaders, historians, and other respected LDS
men that directly contradict the BoM, the DC, JS,
themselves,
David,
I was intentionally introducing cognitive dissonance in my
statements...saying I beleived one thing, while showing you that I believed
another. Confusing, huh?
You see, this is the same confusion I first felt when you said one thing,
but your actions indicated another. Cognitive
DavidM,
Speaking only for myself, I have imagined nothing of the sort that you
described below. I do not see any evil at all in DaveH's intentions, stated
or unstated, and I do beleive that his public (politically correct and
acceptable to the TT audience) reason for being on TT is to learn
Blaine: Sexual abuse occurs
everywhere, especially nowadays with the tremendous increase in availability of
pornography. I blame this availability of pornography more than any
particular religion, and I believe Catholic Priests are especially vulnerable to
this onslaught because they are
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Baptism
Blaine: Scroll
down
DAVEH:
HmmI'm a bit confused about this, Kevin. Are you using a
different
Perry wrote:
Speaking only for myself, I have imagined nothing of
the sort that you described below.
Just for the record, I did not have you in mind when I wrote that. I
was in a PalTalk discussion last night where such was suggested to me.
Perry wrote:
His actions have indicated to me
Blaine wrote:
For this reason, I still firmly believe Jesus
Christ was married, and that this fact--that
he was married-- has, along with the sexual
molestation of children, been covered up for
centuries by the RCC.
The RCC acknowledges that their celibacy doctrine concerning the
Blaine wrote:
it seems reasonable to assume this supports the LDS
doctrine that their doctrines were given of God, not
taken from other churches prominant at the time of
Joseph Smith. In fact, Joseph's mother and some of
his siblings had joined the Presbyterian Church
(teaches infant
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:31:32 -0500
Perry wrote:
Speaking only for myself, I have imagined nothing of
the sort that you described below.
Just
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From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Blaine wrote: I define
"Mormon" as a member of Christ's Church --plain and
simple. David
Blaine wrote:
I believe in your heart you have fellowshipped with
Jesus Christ. I believe, however, that all things
not entered into by Jesus Christ's properly acknowledged
authority--the priesthood as revealed to Joseph Smith
and Oliver Cowdery--will be of no effect in the world
to
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Blaine wrote: For this reason, I
still firmly believe Jesus Christ was married, and that
husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly." (Titus 1:5-6 KJV)
Joe is disqualified on two counts here. More than 1 wife more than 1 riot!
1826 Warrant on Joseph Smith the "Glasslooker" for " disorderly person and an imposture"
1843 Warrants issued for the
Blaine writes:
I believe in your heart you have fellowshipped with Jesus Christ.
I believe, however, that all things not entered into by Jesus Christ's
properly acknowledged authority--the priesthood as revealed to
Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery--will be of no effect in the world
to come,
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your two alternatives hold tenaciously to a religious motivation.
Perhaps you should consider some more academic motivations.
Judy:
Religion and academic? - neither cuts it - This list is for
talking about Truth and Truth is spiritual. There is a spirit of
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Blaine wrote:
I believe in your heart you have fellowshipped with
Jesus Christ. I believe,
Blaine wrote:
For this reason, I still firmly believe Jesus
Christ was married, and that this fact--that
he was married-- has, along with the sexual
molestation of children, been covered up for
centuries by the RCC.
DavidM:
The RCC acknowledges that their celibacy doctrine concerning
Blaine: Well, if
all else fails in attempting to gainsay the doctrine itself, one can always resort to attacking the
character of the man. JS is not here to defend himself,
right?
JS was issued
over40 arrest warrents in his lifetime, and beat them all--except the last
one when they
open to anyone who was accounted worthy
How is this determined? How is someone Worthy? If they are not worthy then you should conceal things from them?
This select group of initiates, is not exactly what one would call PUBLIC.
The Principle became semi PUBLIC Aug 1852
"Revelation on the Eternity
Well at least we can agree that he was not a MARTYR!Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaine: Well, if all else fails in attempting to gainsay the doctrine itself, one can always resort to attacking the character of the man. JS is not here to defend himself, right?
JS was issued over40
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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:08
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Subject: [TruthTalk] What advantage is there to
Mormonism? None
Blaine writes: I believe in
your heart you have fellowshipped with Jesus Christ. I
Blaine: Stating it is such does not in any way show it is. One must have the spirit of the Holy Ghost with him/her to know if this is true or not.
I prayed about it and the Holy Spirit told me it was a lie.
Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Blaine: Scroll down for
my second set of answers.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:41
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Catholic priests/child abuse
victims
Blaine wrote: For this reason, I still
firmly
Blaine wrote:
JS was issued over 40 arrest warrents in his lifetime,
and beat them all--except the last one when they murdered
him and his brother Hyrum.
That's not true, Blaine. Joe was convicted on that first charge of
fraud which happened before he authored the book of Mormon. I use the
Blaine JS was issued over40 arrest warrents in his lifetime, and beat them all--except the last
I guess that answers for his Character over 40 Warrants! You want us to believe he was persecuted?
Joe is presented by LDS as a spotless martyr of virtuous character
"No law or constitutional right
Blaine: However,there is obviously much missing from the Bible
Since Joe RESTORED "ALL THINGS"
"This modern dispensation of which I speak fulfills the biblical promise of a 'restitution of all things' (Acts 3:21; see also Rev. 14:6, 7). Russell M. Nelson, "Combatting Spiritual Drift: Our Global
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From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 3:05
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What advantage
is there to Mormonism? None
Blaine: Stating it is such does not in any way show
it is. One must have the
From: "Blaine Borrowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blaine writes: I believe in your
heart you have fellowshipped with Jesus Christ. I believe,
however, that all things not entered into by Jesus Christ's properly
acknowledged authority--the priesthood as revealed to Joseph
Smith and Oliver
From: Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blaine: Stating it is such does not in any way show it is.
One must have the spirit of the Holy Ghost with him/her
to know if this is true or not.
Kevin:
I prayed about it and the Holy Spirit told me it was a lie.
Blaine:
Hmmm--this is serious,
Blaine: Stating it is such does not in any way show it is. One must have the spirit of the Holy Ghost with him/her to know if this is true or not. Blaine:Hmmm--this is serious, Kevin. "Behold, verily I say unto you that there are many spirits which are false spirits, which have gone forth in the
Blaine: But even if it was a lie, you have to admit it was a grand lie--too
good for any man to do
A grand Lie transmitted from a Lying Spirit through Jo Smith the clairvoyant, Psychic and medium or Spirit Channeler?
From Jo's own mouth others, Divination produced this BoM
How come you guys steal so many scriptures, (As Judy has pointed out)when you say they are unreliable?
The scary part is you are apparently ignorant of the original texts in the bible for these quotes.
Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Blaine:
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 06:24:20PM +0700, Rudi wrote:
hayo hayo sapa yang mau join
http://lists.sws.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/anti-anti-virus
jangan ikutan subscribe lho. nanti dimarahin bossmu :P
Salam,
P.Y. Adi Prasaja
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