Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread Clifton Oliver
Chuck, please forgive me if it looks like I'm jumping into a Moderator issue; that is not my intent! As a private citizen and consultant and ex-list-host, I'd like to address this current discussion. I think that list members like Tony G and Susan J are being unfairly castigated (no R in

RE: [U2] RE: ads - was U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread Brian Leach
All I'm with Tony on this. In a community in which people frequently complain about the perceived lack of tools and visibility of solutions, the truth is that there are precious few places to promote or recommend good technologies when they come along. I have no problem with people like Tony

RE: [U2] U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread Tony G
D daverch wrote: Tony G and Susan J are the biggest offenders. I will make sure that I'm not put into that league. Excuse me? From someone who hasn't posted anything _except_ ads to this forum or any other for at least a year? Please... --- u2-users mailing list

RE: [U2] U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread Susan Joslyn
Dear List, I'm on offender? In a league of offenders!? While I certainly try not to miss an opportunity to offer information (including product information) to anyone asking for advice or a solution such as mine / in my area of expertise, I do try to keep it to a dull roar, only spoke when spoken

RE: [U2] Posting limitations?

2007-09-06 Thread Bill Haskett
Susan: You, nor Tony, nor anyone else, IMHO of course, is abusing anything or anyone. Anytime information is posted it's a good thing. :-) On the other hand, what's being done by those who volunteer to manage U2UG is also a good thing. Totalitarians will always try to rule everyone and

[U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Wally Terhune
As a presenter and 'interested party', I'd love to hear feedback from anyone on the list who attended U2U in Denver (in addition to the comments from recent posters). (I didn't get a chance to review the written evaluations before Janet spirited them away with her to Sydney. :-( ) Thanks

RE: [U2] Posting limitations?

2007-09-06 Thread Tom Dodds
I agree. The other side is that if you don't like what is posted you can always go else where for you free advice and free technical support. These are like the popup ads you get with Google because it's free. Tom Dodds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip

2007-09-06 Thread Jerry Banker
Man, I didn't realize that posting my opinion about the U2U would have ended up in a cyber war. Being a user, sometimes contributor, U2UG Presidential candidate, and someone that does influence buying products for the company I work for, I don't care what the subject line contains because most of

RE: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Brenda Price
Wally, In my first post, I said I thought it was great. I am looking forward to all the new tools that IBM is working on getting to us. I love the graphic editor that compiles on its own with its templates you can use and add to. To those who have used the UniDebugger, the new tools is similar

[U2] U2UG and the U2-Lists

2007-09-06 Thread Brian Leach
Hi Jerry et al Just to state the official position with regard to the U2UGgrin The list pre-dates the U2 User Group: it has been through several stewards, most notably the distinguished Clif Oliver, with the U2UG being the current stewards (with huge thanks to Larry Hiscock). The U2UG uses

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Thanks for the history and mini-rant, Clif. While little differences of opinion like this recent one are common in e-mail communities, this type might be classified as the type found in communities that have more lock-down rules and are moderated in a way similar to ours. This might seem like a

[U2] Ad Wars

2007-09-06 Thread Moderator
All, If you'd like to continue this, I'd like to suggest that it move to U2-Community, as it the conversation has moved away from technical issues. END OF THREAD. If you would like to join U2-Community, for this and other content, please visit: http://listserver.u2ug.org/ to subscribe.

[U2] XDOMRemove() query

2007-09-06 Thread Adam Eccleshall
Hi, A colleague and I are having some difficulty getting XDOMRemove() to work (UD 7.1, Windows). Using the syntax ERR = XDOMRemove(HANDLE, XPATH, NSSTRING, ATTR, VAL) Where XPATH = /DEPStaff/body/staff[1] NSSTRING = xmlns=HI ATTR = '.' and HANDLE is a pointer to an open XML file that looks

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Moderator
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[U2] [UD] Downed filesystems killing 'udt' sessions

2007-09-06 Thread Andy Pflueger
There have been several occasions where on our Solaris machine (which hosts both Oracle Unidata 7.1.0 simultanously! -- yeah, don't get me started there, lol) that some NFS mounts may go offline and become responsive. This interrupts momentarily our new active 'udt' sessions while this mounted

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip

2007-09-06 Thread Clifton Oliver
(In an effort to introduce a little humor to cool things down:) Oh, oh, Jerry. You forgot to trim. And you top posted. Thank heavens you didn't use html, or there would be an armed militia headed your way. :-) -- Clif On Sep 6, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Jerry Banker wrote: Man, I didn't

[U2] Unidata PE

2007-09-06 Thread Jeffrey Butera
Where can I get Unidata PE for Linux? When I search on the IBM site and select the link: U2 Personal Editions and Trials (UniData 7.1.0 Personal Edition) Downloads I keep getting taking to System Builder 5.4.1 download - which I don't want. Anyone with a correct link? -- Jeff Butera, Ph.D.

[U2] Strange Unidata _PH_ file entries

2007-09-06 Thread Dave Davis
We have a customer who has been getting the following error message show up in single-line files in the _PH_ directory: Name too long, do you want to change it(Y/N)? They are on version 6.1 of unidata. I think it is related to improper savedlists or SAVEDLISTS or savelist.map VOC entries, but

RE: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Michael Martin
I enjoyed most of the sessions I attended. I would attend any session that Mike Ryan presented. He was as entertaining as he was informative, right Betty? I did attend the UniAdmin tool presentation. The new tool will be available with Unidata 7.2. The question was asked about availability

RE: [U2] [UD] Downed filesystems killing 'udt' sessions

2007-09-06 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
We have also seen this situation where the machine almost goes into a panic when the NFS mounts don't respond. I think we made the problem less severe with a Solaris mount option. These are the options I currently see when I look at our NFS mount on our production box. The 'soft' option may be

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread BNeylon
You hit the nail on the head Dawn. If I am unable to determine that a thread is a waste of my time, and thus delete the whole thing, maybe I'm the one with the problem. I do it all the time, though I do tend to look at the 6th or 7th posting to see if the thread has morphed into something

RE: [U2] Unidata PE

2007-09-06 Thread Bill Haskett
Jeff: Try: http://www14.software.ibm.com/download/data/web/en_US/trialprograms/Z955364D40826J60 .html?S_TACT=104CBW71 Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Butera Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:43 AM To:

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread karlp
I've never subscribed to U2-community, and probably won't. I prefer the discussions to be on this list and have learned how to filter/delete as necessary. I feel like I'm going to miss something when a discussion is asked to move . . . I didn't realize that list wasn't active, much... I agree

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip

2007-09-06 Thread Jerry Banker
I did both, on purpose. I didn't trim so, if they missed your post, they would have the opportunity to read it. And, as far as posting at the top, I was trying to make an overall point and not responding to any individual point you were making. Personally I would much rather read a person's

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I agree, Jeff. That is my point with the suggestion that we eliminate u2-community and permit discussions like this one, even if not of interest to all. Let's move back/forward to a list where we permit discussions on all related topics and let people filter it themselves. Does anyone else

Re: [U2] Unidata PE

2007-09-06 Thread Dave Taylor
Jeff, Try this link for Unidata PE download: http://www14.software.ibm.com/download/data/web/en_US/trialprograms/Z955364D40826J60.html?S_TACT=104CBW71 Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C)

Re: [U2] [UD] Downed filesystems killing 'udt' sessions

2007-09-06 Thread TVankirk
Andy, Not only can it hang, it can coredump smm and you'll have to restart Unidata. This happenned to us yesterday on a production server with 450+ users and 3 other systems connected via nfa, very painfull. Starts by nfa and new sessions hanging up and then no new connections are

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Jerry Banker
Dawn, I fully agree with you. I do belong to the u2-community list and from experience I can say that if a discussion is sent to community you may as well just say end of discussion. And, I have seen some discussions that should have been continued but died in this way. Jerry -Original

RE: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Jerry Banker
Wally, Over all I think most of the discussions were great and very informative. The geeky classes were definitely geared toward geeks. The information about future developments was also great. The only class I attended that was a disappointment, to me, was DS2009 Basic Extensions: Your Key to

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Marc Harbeson
I think it's kind of silly to have 2 lists, and silly rules about what can be discussed where. I agree that topics can be ignored based on subject line alone. Other list servers I'm on - this is not an issue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Karen Bessel
Hey People!! The horse has officially been pronounced dead, so enough already. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Steve Ferries
If I hear only silence, I will figure that I am in the minority with this opinion. Cheers! --dawn I'm of the 'delete it if you don't like it' camp. Steve Ferries TCR --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Noah Hart
I agree, there should be 1 list. Regards, Noah -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread IT-Laure Hansen
I agree as well. Am a little more on the fence when it comes to rules: yes, some basic ones are needed; no, not that many. But where you draw the line is likely to become an almost personal matter. The present flurry of e-mails on the subject is in response to what, considering my experience of

RE: [U2] Universe PE

2007-09-06 Thread Eric Armstrong
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?q=pf=S_TACT=104CB W71S_CMP=status=Activesr=1cat=k=ALLb=pn=pid=rs=u2trialsfpf=Windows +XPfdt=Trialflang=Englishsb=rdx=15y=10 Eric --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip

2007-09-06 Thread Clifton Oliver
I was teasing, thinking of the flame wars I've seen on other lists about those issues. - C On Sep 6, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Jerry Banker wrote: I did both, on purpose. I didn't trim so, if they missed your post, they would have the opportunity to read it. And, as far as posting at the top, I

RE: [U2] Universe PE

2007-09-06 Thread Ron Sharcott
Its not on that link other than saying it's a Trial Version. But I did finally find it so I'll share. Download an 18-month trial of Personal Edition of IBM UniVerse 10.2. This extended relational database protects personal data, supports U2 Web Services and strengthens and streamlines high

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Clifton Oliver
I already explained the reason the U2 Community list was started. It was an attempt to keep the Monty Python jokes and other non-technical discussions from running off a core group of technical people who were providing the vast majority of answers to problems with the products. Those

Re: [U2] [UD] Downed filesystems killing 'udt' sessions

2007-09-06 Thread Doug Miller
Check the UD release notes on the availability matrix on IBM's website for information regarding this. There have been a few fixes and changes to the product regarding mounted filesystems and the affect it has on the database. Bottom line though, it is best to have all filesystems which will

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
A, I would caution you not to be naive on this point. Until Chuck, Clif, Brian, and maybe the U2UG board declare u2-community dead and the moderating rules that send people there to be dead, this puppy is still alive (or was that a horse?) Cheers! --dawn On 9/6/07, Karen Bessel [EMAIL

RE: [U2] Get a grip

2007-09-06 Thread phil walker
I think the only important thing about the subject line is that it reflects the content. So if you change the 'subject' change the subject line. I am sure we all forget sometimes me included. But doing this will makes following threads and filtering much easier. I quite like [U2] for both

Re: [U2] [UD] Downed filesystems killing 'udt' sessions

2007-09-06 Thread Andy Pflueger
I really appreciate everyone's responses thus far to this thread. I'm going out to the product matrix for Unidata right now to verify release notes. This has been one of those things that has gotten on my nerves and frankly I wish our sister org (which is who's running Oracle -- the pig) wouldn't

[U2] [UD] Replication under Windows

2007-09-06 Thread David Wolverton
I may open an IBM support case on this, but as always, the fastest and best answers are usually here (when we're not debating if the Parrot is dead or not, and what tags we need/don't need g) UniData Replication offers a flag called ReEvaluate Virtual Fields and the documentation says: By

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Stevenson, Charles
1. Vendors. I have appreciated any post I see from Tony Gravagno, Doug Averch, Jeff Fitzgerald, Dawn Wolthius, Susan Joslyn, IBM people promoting U2 features or classes (yes, same standard applies to IBM), and any other vendor/consultant in our market. B. The moderator's job is not

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Kryka, Richard
I'm totally with Clif on this. I subscribe because there are a few nuggets that I grab onto and save. Most of the stuff that passes by really doesn't affect or interest me, but I just skim and delete it using my adult reasoning capacity - the same adult reasoning capacity that allows me to

Re: [U2] XDOMRemove() query

2007-09-06 Thread Michael Rajkowski
What is the txt from the XMLGetError function? This may point you towards your issue. Michael Rajkowski SWG Client Support - Information

RE: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Glen Batchelor
I've been reading these posts a bit. Etiquette dictates that posts which are blatant advertisements for the sole purpose of marketing should be, at a minimum, prefixed with one of the appropriate subject markers. There aren't many posts here that are solely marketing lures. I have seen many

RE: [U2] [UD] Replication under Windows

2007-09-06 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
I am glad to hear someone using replication and having a success story. Is anybody using it on UNIX? The only site I know of that tried it on UNIX did not have enough horsepower on subscribing side and had stop using it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-06 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I've always considered you a sensible voice, Clif, and you came through on this one. Because the U2UG is the trustee of the list, and because I think this e-mail will get to many of the board members without e-mail them individually, I will simply copy Brian Leach, the President of the U2UG, and

Re: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Kate Stanton
Thanks for the feedback, Brenda. It was not a question of deciding if to go or not - we have booked and paid, and now are trying to decide which sessions to go to, they are concurrent so some must be missed. As a 25-year Pick person, I thought this list would be the best place to find other

Re: [U2] [UD] Replication under Windows

2007-09-06 Thread Wally Terhune
David wrote: Why would I *want* the subscriber to re-evaluate a virtual field? Really the only case that Jonathan Smith or I have ever come up with is if you have a virtual field that uses data that is unique to a server (such as including the hostname or IP address). Or possibly path to an

Re: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Kate Stanton
Thanks Jerry. Tells us that as programmers we shall feel at home. We shall read the brochure on DS2009. Terrific help - you are another gem! - Original Message - From: Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:38 AM Subject:

Re: [U2] [UD] Downed filesystems killing 'udt' sessions

2007-09-06 Thread Wally Terhune
problems surround smm forking a 'df' process to load the available filesystems into a shared memory table. We have made fixes in this area. If you can configure your OS so that 'df' never hangs - regardless of the status of the nfs file systems - you shouldn't ever have a problem. I'm not saying

Re: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Kate Stanton
Thanks for that. Presumably we will get a timetable when we register, which will tell us who the presenters are. We are UniVerse, so shall probably go to what is concurrent with the UniAdmin tool one. You are a gem! - Original Message - From: Michael Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [U2] U2 University feedback requested

2007-09-06 Thread Brenda Price
I didn't attend the file tuning, so I can't comment on it. I either was in another class or it was one of the one's I skipped to do the certification testing. The other on testing I also did not attend, I attended the Extended basic session. However, that was a little disappointing as it was

RE: [U2] [UD] Replication under Windows

2007-09-06 Thread Wally Terhune
based on continuing work on UniData Data Replication over the past 18 months or so, I would recommend UniData release 7.1.8 as the minimum if you are going to be implementing. Wally Terhune

RE: [U2] [UD] Replication under Windows - U2U sessions

2007-09-06 Thread Wally Terhune
David wrote: BTW -- are you doing either New York or California sessions?? Why read slides myself when I can have you read them to me?? ;-) I'm currently scheduled to present 4 sessions in both NY and SF (subject to change, of course!) DS2003, DS2010, DS2014, DS2015 I get to lull you to sleep

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread astarte00
sigh Jeee -- I cannot believe all this turmoil Dawn has pretty much laid out the way I feel -- I have a headache so I won't be as nice This IS supposed to be a community...so why the need for a separation in lists? Community members interact in many different ways... You CAN

[U2] ODBC on UD 7.3

2007-09-06 Thread astarte00
Due to the change in the locking within ODBC UD 7x on AIX I am looking for alternatives in access methods regarding SQL Tables that reside between the above mentioned, and a Unisys box. Triggers were also being utilized. The new locking (just migrated) has rendered this no longer a viable

Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last Week In Denver

2007-09-06 Thread astarte00
BTW -- if ALL you want is strictly technical information -- then RTFM, Tech Connect etc...I use this list to ask others for help regarding their personal experience and opinions on subject matters where I could not get the answers via those previously mentioned methods. If the answer includes

RE: [U2] [UD] Replication under Windows

2007-09-06 Thread David Wolverton
This definitely makes sense -- but the default is that RW_REEVALUATE_VF=1 , and the documentation makes it sound like you may be getting into trouble by changing it -- But your logic is where I was -- why would you NOT want to send it over pre-chewed? I think the issue is the default needs to