Re: [U2] Simplify, or why mathematicians make better programmers

2011-11-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/11/11 16:18, Jacques G. wrote: Why does your example have : Real which is a type found in languages of the Pascal family such as: Pascal, Modula2 and possibly Delphi . (Considered obsolete in Delphi) :-) btw, I've never programmed in a Pascal-like language, despite having a go at

Re: [U2] Code Collaboration

2011-11-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/11/11 18:32, Wjhonson wrote: The PickWiki is a place where code can be published, but I haven't seen even one case where code has been taken, enhanced, and put back. So it doesn't appear to be a good place for collaboration. Well, I've both improved other peoples' code, and had others

Re: [U2] Code Collaboration

2011-11-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/11/11 20:40, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: Well, it's not really worth a fight as I am not a lawyer, but from the wed site: This edition is designed for single-user personal development and training as well as sales demos. It is not for remarketing or use in production environments.

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/11 16:19, Rex Gozar wrote: Bonnie, I use CVS (currently porting my scripts to use Mercurial) for Universe program version control. A lot depends on your version control paradigm; many software developers checkout their source code and build their software from scratch. This is what I

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/11 20:47, Barber, Bonnie wrote: I will be glad to, if I ever get it figured out. I am still confused by all the new verbiage that goes with it, for instance the statement in the reply from WOL Lists: Except that - iirc (I use git) - mercurial is a DVCS, so the concept of

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/11 23:13, Barber, Bonnie wrote: Thanks I will get a copy of git and take a look at it so we have an alternate recommendation just in case mercurial does not work out. Bonnie I can't remember where I came across it, and what the differences were, but there was an article some time

Re: [U2] Simplify, or why mathematicians make better programmers

2011-11-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/11/11 19:49, George Gallen wrote: Or didn't know about the INT() command, and forced everything to be even. Which in reality, is kinda odd. (Couldn't resist). :-) In reality, you could well be correct !!! When I was involved in recruiting a C programmer ages ago, we set a simple

Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/11/11 18:21, Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems) wrote: Scott, wIntegrate 3.0.03 runs on windows 7 32 bit, but I don't believe it runs on 64 bit. On windows 7, when I run my old wInteg 3, it shows as a child process of NTVDM and parallel with WOWEXEC. I'm not running it with any UAC, admin

Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/11/11 19:05, Steve Romanow wrote: Are any of the multivalued fields associated to each other? You would have a subtable per association, not per column. The messiness still exists, it just needs to be managed. And are you looking to export it to MySQL (or whatever), or are you planing

Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1.20 Pick Flavor Selecting Multi-Values

2011-11-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/11/11 20:52, Al DeWitt wrote: I'm am trying to help out my users by helping them make sense of what they have done to themselves. The field in question, Bin Number, is alphanumeric. About three quarters of the entries are all numeric and one quarter are alphanumeric. Below is a

Re: [U2] Using 'MATCH'

2011-10-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/10/11 17:37, Greg Coelho wrote: Hey Guys, I am concatenating an alpha code into a string providing that the code does not already exist (in the string). If my existing string = X.STRING and my code = X.CODE should the following work? IF X.STRING MATCH X.CODE THEN END ELSE

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/10/11 00:23, Steve Romanow wrote: I reread my post and meant no disrespect Wols. I shouldnt post replies without considering twice. No worries Steve. I shoot from the hip sometimes too - it can be embarrassing :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wols Lists
Can anyone help explain this behavior or offer a workaround that saves me from handling it with line counters and printing my own headings?Cheers,Kebbon ___ Perry's approach is the correct one. If you want to

Re: [U2] UniBasic Question

2011-10-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/10/11 22:22, Steve Romanow wrote: I don't know if I agree that SELECT is faster. If you are using indexed fields, SELECT is definitely not the good choice. SELECT *is* faster. Because it does far less work! EXECUTE SELECT needs to read the entire file to create a select list. SELECT

Re: [U2] The math just doesn't work.

2011-10-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/10/11 13:31, Allen Egerton wrote: On 10/10/2011 8:12 AM, Israel, John R. wrote: I am coming late to this party, but wanted to throw out a bug that was just reported to Rocket. We found that PERCISION was causing a calculation to round in some cases and truncate in others. I am not

Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)

2011-10-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/10/11 23:03, Jeff Fitzgerald wrote: If Eric or anyone else has specific questions about FAST we will be happy to answer them, either here if the moderators think that is appropriate or via private email. We won't get into mudslinging or trying to tear down any other product or person.

Re: [U2] Reading Dictionary Items

2011-09-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/09/11 19:43, Bill Brutzman wrote: I would like read open a (large) dictionary, read the line items, and write back the @ID field to Attribute 4 (the column heading) of each. Syntax help would be appreciated. I'm guessing SQL might be your best bet - that should be a simple update

Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

2011-09-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/09/11 14:38, Charles Stevenson wrote: Allows you to reference this I-descriptor from another I-descriptor in the future. UV doesn't let you do that if there are multiple expressions separated by semi-colons. There is no good reason for that restriction other than internal,

Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions

2011-09-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/09/11 03:44, Bob Wyatt wrote: I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4. It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it. Sounds like (and it's quite likely) that

Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

2011-09-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/09/11 02:13, Boydell, Stuart wrote: For future reference, the doc set comes with a full-text index (the .pdx file) that allows you to search (words, phrases, etc) across all the docs in the set.

Re: [U2] Ardent programmers

2011-09-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/09/11 20:53, Wjhonson wrote: By the way, I today, for the first time in my career, encountered a seasoned Pick BASIC programmer, conversant with Paragraphs, but who did not know what Proc was. Never heard of it. That could easily be true of any BASIC programmer who learnt on

Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

2011-09-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/09/11 21:33, George Gallen wrote: Just curioustry changing the @1,1 to @1,1,1 If so, then the values are separated by @VM's but rather @SVM's I think UV *ALWAYS* does a LOWER when you trans. So it should work - if the source file has values then the transfer will have subvalues.

Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

2011-09-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/09/11 21:39, John Thompson wrote: The @11,1,1 worked. Weird... So the output is not the same as whats in the data? There's a good reason for that ... You can pass a multi-value list of id's to look up (or something like that). If it then returned several multi-valued results,

Re: [U2] ENCRYPT in Universe

2011-09-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/09/11 23:15, David Jordan wrote: Hi John I have not played around with the encryption, but to my knowledge this is not the way it works. The password is related to the data encrypted, not to the user, so every user would require the same key for the data. To change the key you need

Re: [U2] DataVu Query [ad]

2011-09-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/09/11 17:47, Steve Romanow wrote: The odbc way requires you to use VSG to normalize your U2 data. DataVue does not. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but ... Aiui, ODBC (on UV at least) is no longer a native data access technology, but it sits on top of OleDB. So if you can

Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS

2011-09-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/09/11 21:52, Glenn Sallis wrote: Doug, The notion of lines of code being a measure of productivity makes me uneasy. It is possible for someone to write 500 lines of efficient code using ED which solve the problem at hand, in half the time than another developer who writes 1000

Re: [U2] PC based UniBasic program editor for 64 bit OS

2011-08-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/08/11 22:46, Doug Averch wrote: Program size means nothing today when I can run Eclipse on a Notebook, or a Mac, or a Windows machine. Megabytes means nothing in today's world. We use to worry that our udt or uv process took a 1/2mb. We now take upwards of 10mb. Buy more memory!

Re: [U2] Why Pick U2?

2011-08-26 Thread Wols Lists
[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists [antli...@youngman.org.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:28 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Why Pick U2? On 25/08/11 16:47, George Gallen wrote: keep in mind: SSD drives have a limited number

Re: [U2] Why Pick U2?

2011-08-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/08/11 16:47, George Gallen wrote: keep in mind: SSD drives have a limited number of writes (much better today than before) tempfs do not (or at least I don't think so) SSD drives however usually can store a LOT more than a tempfs file, which depends on your physical memory -

Re: [U2] Why Pick U2?

2011-08-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/08/11 16:19, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: Is anyone using a RAMDisk with U2 files? I have noticed that there are two types of ram disks within Linux - tmpfs and /dev/ram1 which can be used to create a small file system. Does anyone have any practical experience on these options?

Re: [U2] UniVerse backups to disk

2011-08-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/08/11 14:56, Robert Porter wrote: The snapshot disk space only needs to hold the amount of the changed data - not the whole filesystem. To the applications, it appears that a copy was made, but actually writes are being held behind the scenes. Don't think I'm explaining this well

Re: [U2] easy way to get count of a DIM()?

2011-08-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/08/11 18:59, Rick Nuckolls wrote: You can redimension an array as long as it is not a common variable. This tends to be a “slow” process, or at least one that you do not want to do each time that you add something to the array. I believe, in INFORMATION mode, you can redimension a

Re: [U2] [UV] Microsoft Team Foundation Server for Source Control

2011-08-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/08/11 22:57, Doug Averch wrote: Source code control using TFS is not easily done. Microsoft created a command line client and a plugin for Eclipse. See http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=enid=4240. However you want to accomplish this, you must create a script

Re: [U2] UniVerse backups to disk

2011-08-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/08/11 05:07, Chris Lee wrote: Hi All, We're running UniVerse 10.1.17 on AIX 5.3 and the backup feature included within our vendors software is pretty basic and only allows backups of Universe to tape. I'm going to continue running backups to tape on a nightly basis, but I'd also

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/11 23:14, Bill Brutzman wrote: In an inherited legacy app, I have a few commands like LIST.1 = 1 LIST.2 = 2 LIST.3 = 3 LIST.4 = 4 SELECT F.ICC to LIST.2 SELECT F.ICC to LIST.3 SELECT F.ICC to LIST.4 And then LIST.2

Re: [U2] UniBasic SELECT

2011-07-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/07/11 23:53, Bill Brutzman wrote: Thanks to Larry and Wol for writing. Both ways work to get rid of the red warnings but both ways I still get the pesky SQL+ prompt at the end. That sounds weird. I was wondering why the EXECUTE made the SQL+ prompt appear, but there's no way a BASIC

Re: [U2] CONV MCU on indexed field?

2011-07-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/07/11 20:56, Chris Austin wrote: George, I just rebuilt the indices on the CLINE table, then tried the LIKE using the '...' as a wildcard, so I tried: SELECT CLIENT WITH NAME LIKE BRUCE... and unfortunately that worked the exact same way as the [] wildcards, returning 1

Re: [U2] HS.ADMIN Scrub Hangs

2011-07-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/07/11 22:46, Bill Brutzman wrote: 1. I ran LIST.READU... there were no locks. 2. Problem solved... the problem was with... The DICTionary fields (1 thru 8, especially 4 and 8) for the field, in my case PARTNUMBER, have to exist and be specified properly... if not, HS.SCRUB hangs on the

Re: [U2] Odd error message

2011-07-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/07/11 16:56, John Thompson wrote: Never seen that one... My initial thought is: Is there a program that has a dimensioned array, where the data that the program is trying to read in is larger than the array that was declared in the BASIC program? The which situation is explicitly

Re: [U2] Document Management

2011-07-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/07/11 17:46, Holt, Jake wrote: I would say SQL, etc. is no different than U2 when it comes to document management. Its all the tools around the database that is going to help get the job done for you. Use the database you know best :) ** The filestream option in sql server is

Re: [U2] Document Management

2011-07-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/07/11 18:11, Brian Leach wrote: Actually, Wol's right: the filestream option in SQL Server is just an entry point into the regular Windows file system, so in effect it's no different from using a type 19 directory. I didn't know that :-) So if you're using a filesystem that's naff at

Re: [U2] Universe Server Hibernation

2011-07-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/07/11 16:30, Arnold Bosch wrote: Hi Has anybody ever tested how Universe behaves if the server is hibernated to disk ? Does it work and resume locally logged on sessions properly when the server is brought back up again? Obviously all network sessions will be aborted, but I'm not

Re: [U2] Record Locks - How long should they last for? (Opinion)

2011-07-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/07/11 13:40, David Wolverton wrote: Perhaps a more interesting example might be -- what if your business model would make it more efficient to move one of the files 'off world' to a SQL store on another machine?? If you 'called' a subroutine to do your reads and writes, those could

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/07/11 16:15, McGowan, Ian wrote: I respectfully disagree - through the years the few times I've been royally screwed, it's always by a closed-source vendor. I have never made a major commitment to an open-source tool and been burned. Debian, Eclipse, Tomcat, Apache and Postgres have

Re: [U2] Simple FMT question

2011-07-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/07/11 20:17, Bob Woodward wrote: I know that X = (:X)[4] works to get my results but FMT should work, too. The major benefit is that if the number is more than 4 digits, FMT won't truncate it. I hope. Others have pointed this out too, but ime FMT adds text marks if you go over

Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse

2011-07-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/07/11 22:53, Mecki Foerthmann wrote: Microsoft isn't struggling and they license Sharepoint only for named users and still sell it! Are you sure :-) (MS isn;t struggling, that is ...) They've had several very high profile reverses lately. The obvious example to me is the London Stock

Re: [U2] Convert to Numeric

2011-07-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/07/11 15:11, Ed Clark wrote: The behavior varies somewhat by platform. Are you using universe or unidata? I'm guessing you're on unidata because you are using the MD conversion code (I haven't seen that used much on universe) I'm guessing MD/MR is site specific, not platform/flavour

Re: [U2] Git and U2

2011-07-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/07/11 04:47, Rob Sobers wrote: Good point, Dan. Dropbox is such a good service, too. It's a shame that a) they let it happen (unit tests, man!) and b.) they handled it so poorly PR-wise. On the bright side, it's not nearly as bad as Citibank or Sony. Maybe poor PR but can anyone

Re: [U2] [UV] Cross-flavor code

2011-06-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/06/11 21:50, Ed Clark wrote: yeah, you can add $OPTIONS STATIC.DIM to all the programs that you compile in information flavor, or $OPTIONS -STATIC.DIM to the ones in pick flavor. I would put the COMMON definition in an include file, along with whichever static.dim directive that you

Re: [U2] Very Strange: Only first DICT entry using SUBR is LISTed

2011-06-22 Thread Wols Lists
Having finally worked out where COMMAND comes from ... In all likelihood your selections are going to select list 1 and trashing each other! Change that line to PERFORM COMMAND: TO 2 CAPTURING SCREEN.OUTPUT and you might well get the answer you are expecting. I can't be sure, because I've only

Re: [U2] Universe 10.1.22 on AIX 5.3 ML 4

2011-06-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/06/11 10:24, Hona, David wrote: If not thatare you also certain your didn't customise your uv terminfo database for the terminal emulation in question? You never know! :-) Because we were originally a Prime site, with loads of PTs, all our emulation and stuff assumed PTs. We had

Re: [U2] Question about updating customer's systems...

2011-06-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/06/11 14:26, Doug Averch wrote: Hi Wol: We have 10/100 mb router and find no problems. Most of our clients have those or 1gb routers and find no problems. The reason to open more than one connection is not be linear on the updates and allow the staff to do something else than watch

Re: [U2] Question about updating customer's systems...

2011-06-16 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/06/11 17:18, Doug Averch wrote: On some of our Client systems we open 3 connections and use all of those connections to updating their site simultaneously. We do not have to do linear installs anymore which cuts our installation time from several hours per site to about 15 minutes

Re: [U2] Selecting a List

2011-06-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/06/11 16:47, Greg Coelho wrote: Hi All, Again, I need a little help. The following PROCEDURE LINE works just fine. In this case I'm just inserting the variable V.CALENDAR.YEAR to complete my file suite and I am going after 2 alphanumeric records ('P2021422' 'P2083158').

Re: [U2] Universe 11.1.2 list line limit

2011-06-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/06/11 14:02, jig wrote: Thank you Jordan, You're right about OPENSEQ and READSEQ. However it depends on what you want to do with these long lists. What we do is either merge the lists or find the difference or find the union. And the way we have done it in the past is extremely

Re: [U2] File Item Count Limit?

2011-06-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/06/11 15:03, George Gallen wrote: Well, this process is still runningand it's up to just about 15M (1.3g) so hopefully, it will be done very soon - I estimated this to take about an hour or so, well, thats turning into almost 20 hours. I don't know if I have the 64bit option

Re: [U2] [UV] Emulate SQL MAX() function at TCL

2011-05-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/05/11 07:03, Boydell, Stuart wrote: Just wondering if anyone has a neat trick for picking up the highest ID from a file. Where the file ID is an integer. With UVSQL I would SELECT MAX(@ID) FROM TABLE; - however, the program I need to do this within has the file (table) open and if I

Re: [U2] [UV] Emulate SQL MAX() function at TCL

2011-05-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/05/11 14:33, Charles Stevenson wrote: I am going to assume we are talking about a HUGE file, otherwise efficiency wouldn't much matter. I don't know a GOOD way outside basic or sql to prevent a sort-selected list from being created. For humongous files, that may be painful. Hmmm...

Re: [U2] 2

2011-05-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/05/11 15:15, Larry Hiscock wrote: Your computer appears to be compromised. I have temporarily unsubscribed you from the U2 Users list. Once you have corrected your infection, you can resubscribe at http://listserver.u2ug.org. Larry Hiscock Moderator I'm always wary that these

Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/05/11 16:53, Israel, John R. wrote: As long as the customer has no preference, and there are not a bunch of funky things that only work with UV, I would go with what you know. Completing the project SHOULD be quicker and thus cheaper. Maintenance would also be quicker and cheaper.

Re: [U2] Printing to Remote Warehouse

2011-05-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/05/11 22:22, Bryan Evans wrote: I apologize upfront if this is more related to Unix rather than UniVerse. We have a remote warehouse that connects to us via telent on a dumb terminal. They have a line printer hooked up to the dumb terminal. When we print packing lists, we open up the

Re: [U2] [UD] Extract a line with a CR and/or LF character in it.

2011-05-26 Thread Wols Lists
On 26/05/11 13:26, Rex Gozar wrote: For any CSV processing, you must process character by character. Use OSBREAD to get a block of characters and start parsing. Strings like 1,ABC,2 adapter,, can only be correctly parsed by looking at each character and applying the simple CSV rules. Using

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 23/05/11 18:35, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: As an aside, I told Java students that they could apply to work on an android app rather than a standard JRE app for a Programming II course last semester. Two (out of 13) of them did and I was very impressed. One deployed to a phone, the other to an

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/05/11 00:59, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: Oh yeah, this is fun stuff (given that I am not either party, that is). As I recall from reading a while back, someone left some test code in the google product that was taken directly from Sun/Oracle code, which greatly complicated their defense when it

Re: [U2] Using DICT items in basic program

2011-05-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 16/05/11 07:19, Dan McGrath wrote: If you are using UniData you can create an I-type dictionary. For the location (attribute 2 in the dictionary) put either EXTRACT(@RECORD,2,2,0) or, alternatively, if you already have a D-Type dictionary for the 2nd field (let us call it ADDRESS for

Re: [U2] [UV] Marking New Index as Built

2011-04-29 Thread Wols Lists
Required YesYes SL N0 Perry -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:24 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Marking

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Reasons not to say goodbye.

2011-04-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/04/11 16:02, Robert Porter wrote: Thanks Doug for making this point... I was about to, but it opens a whole other can of worms. People don't get the difference. Free doesn't mean what people seem to think. The short answer is most of the licenses usually mean free as in

Re: [U2] Say Galaxay--multiverse

2011-04-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/04/11 15:22, Ed Clark wrote: I still have the box that pcVerse came in, and it says Profile. It also has a cool embossed sticker on it that says Wordmarc Composer. I'm pretty sure that I bought it from WordMark, who also sold a word processing package. iirc (I don't have any proof)

Re: [U2] [UV] Marking New Index as Built

2011-04-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/04/11 17:53, Charles Stevenson wrote: That should work. And then you can write your own update program to back-populate the index w/o having to do a build at all. But if your my connivings are true, then why doesn't RocketSQ give that to us as a concurrent build option? A few years

Re: [U2] HP PA-RISC to Itanium

2011-04-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/04/11 01:59, Norman, David (Health) wrote: We're thinking about moving from HP-UX on PA-RISC to HP-UX on Itanium (UniVerse). I'm seeing conflicting advice as to whether there's an Endian issue or not. Will we need to run fnuxi ? (and where's the documentation for fnuxi ?) or are there

Re: [U2] Mailing List Hacked

2011-04-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/04/11 20:34, u2list0...@curt.com wrote: Having read and seen what people have said I understand now. My apologies to the group. I had no idea our actual email addresses showed up on Google searches. No wonder this happened. Yet another common technique is - if a machine is hijacked,

Re: [U2] Question about uvbackup dd and uvrestore

2011-04-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/04/11 13:30, Rex Gozar wrote: Unless you need record-level restores, I would recommend using tar to backup your Universe accounts. While UV is running and being used? tar is all very well, but if the database is being used 24/7 it could easily lead to a corrupt backup. Cheers, Wol

Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically

2011-04-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/04/11 19:37, Curt Stewart wrote: Thanks to all that have replied. We're still busy researching and testing but we did catch a break yesterday and it appears that the problem could be the same that Wol mentioned. We have had reports of CPU spikes in the past, but these were only

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/04/11 13:03, Mecki Foerthmann wrote: Symeon, I am afraid you are wrong. TigerLogic actually have an office in the UK (Buckinghamshire). And unlike Rocket they also have offices in France and Germany. Just go to their website and click on Contact us and you will see where you can find

Re: [U2] Opinions on Cache

2011-04-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/04/11 02:47, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: I am currently looking at how U2 fits in the cloud environment with products like Microsoft Azure and I think the model of U2 where each table is a separate os file is better for cloud computing than Cache's one system file (similar to the

Re: [U2] Opinions on Cache

2011-04-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/04/11 23:57, David Jordan wrote: From my observations, I don't quite agree on Tony's summation of Cache vs U2. Cache has the same burden as U2 in that they came from mumps where U2 came from Pick. The biggest difference between Cache and U2 is marketing where Cache takes on RDBMS and U2

Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically

2011-04-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/04/11 14:04, Curt Stewart wrote: Has anyone in the group experienced this issue and found a resolution? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Environment Universe 10.2.10 Windows Server 2003 Virtual Machine (sorry don’t know any

Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors

2011-04-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/04/11 20:54, Steve Romanow wrote: What is you cant stomach eclipse :) poke, poke. No no no. Actually these posts have been bugging me too. They're damn annoying, but ads are tolerated so I didn't want to make a fuss. However, I have to agree with Doug. If the *entire* *purpose* of the

Re: [U2] dynamically disassociate associated fields?

2011-04-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/04/11 02:36, Hona, David wrote: You can use an alternate dictionary in native or SQL queries... USING DICT MYALTDICT Or more practical suggest made by Kate is to have a different dictionary definition... The problem with Kate's idea is that it makes each column its own table. So

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/03/11 20:14, fft2...@aol.com wrote: Rather that if Rocket would provide a budget for outreach, then the U2UG could do outreach. I thought you said you WEREN'T telling other people what to do! Who is U2UG? Is it the board? Is it the members? You *are* telling other people what to do.

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/03/11 20:04, fft2...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/15/2011 5:10:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, br...@brianleach.co.uk writes: Plus of course, since we don't charge fees, we don't have any budget to advertise our presence! Why isn't Rocket themselves giving a budget? Let's

Re: [U2] backing up system

2011-03-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 11/03/11 23:00, Stephen Jackson wrote: Check out rsync Agreed. And have you done dbpause etc? While *RECENT* versions of UV shouldn't be a problem, you'd be ill-advised to run cpio (or any non-MV backup tool) over an older version if it's in active use. That's a guarantee of corrupted files

Re: [U2] File Corruption

2011-03-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/03/11 13:07, Bob Witney wrote: Hiya: I have 3 fairly large files that have been corrupted. This is how the file should look (more in unix) Can't help much other than to say if you search the archives, you'll find this has cropped up on several occasions. I don't know of

Re: [U2] User LogOut Cabbage

2011-03-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/03/11 22:34, Bill Brutzman wrote: When a user here logs out of UniVerse on HP-Ux, it comes back with repeating... Mkpath: @SAVEDLISTS/S.maryann.14 is not a directory Suggestions would be appreciated. Just a suggestion ... Is it a type 1 file? It seems suspicious that the

Re: [U2] Multi-Threading Universe Socket traffic

2011-03-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/03/11 09:16, Symeon Breen wrote: Lets say your batch of transactions is in a file, as you process each one set a flag saying it is done, or delete the record or something, then yourprogram can select the file, loop through the records and if the flag is set or the record does not exist

Re: [U2] Version Control

2011-03-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/03/11 11:53, Susan Joslyn wrote: Regarding your snippets below: Would this really be something you want? Your ongoing work merged into everyone else's ongoing work every day - before your work is finished and tested? Sorry, but I have to respond here ... NO NO NO. Not my work

Re: [U2] Version Control

2011-03-05 Thread Wols Lists
On 05/03/11 09:30, Steve Romanow wrote: Git- I personally think git is best for very large workgroups working on a single large codebase (i.e. an os kernel). It is primarily geared to people comfortable in the shell. It does _not_ have good win32 support so it is a non-starter for me.

Re: [U2] Version Control

2011-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/11 00:55, Bill Brutzman wrote: It is not clear to me how SubVersion and GIT developers refer to the latest rev of their subs. Also the reverse...what programs use the subs. This is where OSGI fits in. I have heard rumblings that people are working on an Eclipse-compatible OSGI

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/03/11 20:50, Tony Gravagno wrote: Some people apparently have brains that toggle IF NOT ELSE faster than others. But apparently this construct is of concern to some people, whether as a matter of elegance or a matter of coding effectiveness. Recognizing this, the more I can eliminate

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/03/11 06:04, Allen E. Elwood wrote: I dunno, just makes me laugh every time I think about the fact that at the lowest level there is really no such thing as digital because electricity is analog lol Is it? Quantum and all that? Actually, I think I'd sort of agree with you.

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/11 20:10, Ron Hutchings wrote: I am not crazy about IF (condition) ELSE logic but the compiler supports it. The versions of Information I was on did not support THEN on the reads until the 90s. Once it was available we jumped on it. Exactly. I've only ever really used INFORMATION

Re: [U2] UV on Linux question...

2011-02-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/02/11 05:09, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote: Even though Fedora is sort-of (but not) the 'community' version of Red Hat, there are major differences between the two; which are not clearly documented when it comes to commercial applications - installing and running. If you have to

Re: [U2] silly company names

2011-02-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/02/11 02:24, Tony Gravagno wrote: From Charlie Noah: Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? Tony Gravagno wrote: Uh, I don't get it. How are those related? What trend? From: Charlie Noah Silly

Re: [U2] Pick Dinosaurs

2011-02-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/02/11 03:58, Dawn Wolthuis wrote: I started on a P300 that I think might have been running Primos 3, then we got a 400 running Primos 4. I think it was either the upgrade to Primos 5 or 7 (details are too blurry at this point) when we had significant issues with a upgrade, not the least

Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/02/11 13:38, Ed Clark wrote: I'll go on a limb and state my belief emphatically that we will never see another new language implemented within the DBMS itself. Not from universe/unidata/d3 maybe (and sadly), but this is what Intersystems did with Cache. They added mv basic as a

Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/02/11 21:00, Steve Romanow wrote: Now, as I've said recently, we can immediately build our own external language bindings with no help from any of the DBMS providers. Unfortunately this option leaves us to connect in via the above methods, and no matter how fast that happens, it's

Re: [U2] Does UV have a BLOCK command

2011-02-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/02/11 00:31, Dan McGrath wrote: From my testing with the aforementioned project, directly cataloguing in the VOC results in noticeably faster calling than code that is catalogued globally. I don't have time at work at the moment do the tests again, I might try after I finish the day.

Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

2011-02-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/02/11 18:57, Wols Lists wrote: The problem is, where do you put the layers. That's my beef with relational, the layer is in COMPLETELY the wrong place. This means a large chunk of information, which *belongs* in the database layer, *has* to be put into the business layer. Even

Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

2011-02-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/02/11 18:05, phil walker wrote: Agreed it is the database. I guess I was not clear. If your archictecture has layers dbms/DAL/BAL/UI then you COULD if you wanted to theoretically at least change one of these without largely impacting the other layers. Therefore if you did not like the

Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

2011-01-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/01/11 15:04, David Wolverton wrote: Am I out on a limb here saying that CallHTTP should probably not cause a Phantom to go iPhantom? I mean, Rocket can do whatever the heck they want, it's their sandbox after all and we really have no choice but to suck it up... But is the logic they

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