My answer to questions like this is always that you can get into these MV
systems in so many different ways that it's now irrelevant which tools or
languages you use. Pick one that you're comfortable with and you'll find
ways to use your tools to get into the back-end and interface with
Barry Brooks asked:
I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers.
They wish to be able to directly access D3 files from Universe. Does
anyone know the best (or any) way to do this. D3 and Universe are
running on Linux Redhat 9.
Ross Suggested:
You MIGHT be able to use
If all you want is to do is Access queries, then you can build the query,
then pass it to D3 through a combination of rlogin and d3tcl. That's a
little cludgy. Or, again, you can go through a Win32 middle-tier. The
results can be returned to Universe through stdout or captured into a
variable
Two ideas, not entirely original:
1) The techie in me says
It would be an interesting project to create the e-mail and web interfaces
described in an MV system. (What a concept, a database for massive amounts
of structured data...) It wouldn't have the bells and whistles of
established e-mail
I use the same technique for starting D3, mvBASE, IIS, and other services
form desktop shortcuts. Stopping services with a kill um all, let God sort
um out macro like this can be problematic, it really depends on the
service, but it's a nice way to free resources. You may see the command
window
Tony,
Willing to share any of those scripts? Also, does anyone
have a UinData version of these start/shutdown scripts?
- Charles Scripted Barouch
It's not rocket science, but here are some examples. Just create the
scripts in a standard directory, then drag shortcuts to your desktop,
Brian, I hope this responds to your points (Good chatting BTW, hope all is
well):
- Because the compiler is free doesn't mean the IDE must be too. We could
say the MV database model and Pick/BASIC compiler are free, and we're just
licensing user access to it through the various MV DBMS
I wrote:
... An Enterprise level shop doesn't care
that the software costs over US1000 and probably wouldn't be
using PHP for development. The Borland model is bl**dy expensive.
Dangit, I meant to emphasize that The Borland model NOT is bl**dy
expensive.
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Replied to e-mail request before I saw this. Yes, everything comes direct
from Microsoft, DVDs, newsletters, support, etc. MS never questioned the
source and I get the same services as anyone who buys direct. I have never
received anything from the original vendor.
Where did you find the legal
Clif Oliver wrote:
Stop teasing us, Tony. grin What's the source where we can get MSDN
subscriptions for $1,300?
OK OK ... arm is twisting in agony, people love me when they can save a
buck but rarely when they can spend a buck, what up wit dat?...
Get it here:
Brian Leach wrote:
Or if you want browser based cross platform - is anyone on the list
using Macromedia flash to talk to U2 through web services?
Will wrote:
Aren't you missing something there? Or can web services
speak directly to a U2 database? And if so ... how?
For info on Web Services
Brian Leach wrote:
The data based stuff is pretty recent in terms of Flash, and I
guess most of the Flash community hasn't caught onto it yet -
after all, it is primarily a tool for content designers (and
for some pretty good games too) so most of the people using it
are not database minded.
chris wrote:
mono is an C# .net port for linux. It supposed to run C# exes as
is (from a windows box) I haven't tired it yet. I still working on
my hello world app in C# so I'm not ready to try porting anything :)
I'm just trying to find the time to get into Mono. I believe it has a
bright
[I went on and on and then said]
As an aside, pardon me for being so bold, but it's amazing that the
providers of these GUI products aren't jumping to pay people
like me to
help developers become viable candidates for their products. There's
no guarantee that any given site will adopt any
Will wrote:
A key factor that makes CUI non-portable
to GUI is the embedded Input and Print statements in the code.
I respectfully disagree that this is key.
After all event oriented apps also have input statements
I think you mean the key factor is that the programs are not
event oriented.
Mark, it's interesting to see this project unfold, please do keep us up on
events there.
(Ready for some acronym soup?) Crystal Reports is heavily tied to .NET
these days. Microsoft has selected CR for integration with Great Plains, so
there is a high level of commitment to the CR/GP/.NET
You have my sympathy/empathy, and I'm sure that of many others here. I have
some thoughts that may seem common sense, but they may be worth mentioning:
Document everything.
-- Downtime
-- Delays
-- End-user complaints
-- Discussions with management and software vendors
-- Missing features,
Smooth bro. Real smooth.
Excuse us ladies and gentlemen as I escort our colleague out by his ear and
smack him around a little.
Please IGNORE last post. It was meant to be private. I was meant to be
asleep.
Sincerely,
Charles Barouch
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It seems the problem here is that you're going from pure data to StructureX,
then you want to go from StructureX to StructureY. Going direct to
StructureX is a fine first-off approach, but since your needs are now
expanding I'd suggest that you need to rethink your approach. You need to
go
Troy Buss wrote
Otherwise its back to pcl2pdf ( www.visual.co.uk/pcl2pdf.html
) and blat for this other project I'm working on.
Hey Troy, long time bud. Hope all is well.
I have code here that I haven't had time to fully productize it yet. Very
simply you populate a variable with substitution
I think Joe may realize a couple things:
1) He doesn't know enough about the system to criticize it.
2) The IT people in his UV shop didn't know much either.
Many Pick guys get into Pick because they know their business market but not
much about technology, and Pick makes it easy to write
George, the best commercial integration option available for MV right now is
the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data. When IBM has UO.NET, that
situation may change, but developers must research and understand the
capabilities of both products before making assumptions and decisions - it
george r smith wrote:
Get the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data and get the
same support as Clink for mvBase - no thanks.
Well George, there are many more engineers and support people working on
PDP.NET than on mvBASE. mvBASE is a dead-end DBMS product that RD inherited
- Clink was dead
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George, the best commercial integration option available
for MV right now is
the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data.
But doesn't .NET take up like a gazillion bytes of space?
And doesn't integration require an object?
As in... integration with .. what?
Will
Craig Bennett
CDP is all very well, but the noice ratio can be quite high,
not to mention the trolls.
Haha, I unsubscribed from this group for several months just because of the
high noise volume in here.
CDP volume tends to go up and down but since there are so few people really
contributing
Joe Eugene wrote:
I have heard stories where several corporations migrated to RDBMS,
Never heard any LARGE Corp(Hershey, GE, BOfA etc) switch to UV/MVDBMS.
Of the many companies who have migrated from MV to an RDBMS you always hear
the fanfare of their initial decision but rarely of the years of
I can't say if MV is slow or inefficient as far as database handling
compared to various relational DBMS environments. Since the tests
themselves (TPC, etc) are biased because they themselves are defined based
on relational constructs, I suspect we'll never get real numbers that we can
all agree
Thanks for the community effort Clif!
Tony
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-Original Message-
Does anyone know if there is an interface driver for Pick
into Clarion, or if anyone has written such an interface?
From: Craig Bennett
Hi Glenn,
you could use ODBC (erk) but I believe that sockets will be
the simplest answer. Depending on the version of Clarion you
I have a new component which will launch multiple applications on any PC in
a shop from any MV platform. No AccuTerm or wIntegrate involved, very
affordable. It's currently named NebulaLaunch and is being incorporated
into a couple other components here and will be available as a separate
You really don't want to read a binary document into your app. It's
relatively easy to create a COM Add-in for Word which can be controlled from
any MV environment over any OS. See http://nebula-rnd.com/products/doc.htm
as an example of what can be done in this area.
I've been thinking about
If you had more of these deals you could setup a hosted environment (your
choice of DBMS including U2 and D3). You use your own licenses on that
system and do your development there. End-users can SSH into their own
production accounts and pay you some monthly rate for using your app and
For an example of what's possible, see these links:
http://Nebula-RnD.com/products/analysis.htm
http://Nebula-RnD.com/demos/nebulanalysis/ (audio/video presentation)
Unattended, all Pick BASIC, no CSV files or XML or other file I/O or
translations, full formatting with charts and all other
Sounds like a great tool Ronnie.
http://www.PickSource.com is a great place for stuff like this.
I'll be happy to host it at http://Nebula-RnD.com/freeware, just e-mail me a
zip, and please include a ReadMe.
Good luck in any case.
Tony
Nebula RD
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other system
before XML, we all could. The question is always the 'time value of
money' equation. If a tool makes things work more
consistently, faster,
and with less setup time I still see a value.
- Charles Barouch
Tony Gravagno wrote:
Without purchasing extra software, probably
Karl has one good way to do it.
I'd like to slug whoever it is that put it into people's heads that CSV is
the universal pipe into Excel. CSV is for raw data only, it has nothing to
do with formatting. If you want formatting then you must understand how to
use the functionality built into
Once again you're looking at the problem like a nail because you're swinging
at it with a CSV hammer. First import Tab-delimited text into your
document. Then go to menu Table Convert Text to Table. All of this can
be automated.
George, what kind of import are you suggesting for a Word table?
Ultimately, however, it is not engineers who decide product
directions. Recall the Golgafrinchan B Ark.
snip
(dawn) Nope, that doesn't ring any bells, but sounds like
another story, so do tell ...
That was a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Good summary of the Golgafrincham
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