, December 17, 2014 4:57:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
by Ubiquiti Employee UBNT-Robert 2 weeks ago
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Hi Guys --
Thanks for all the feedback. Here are some quick thoughts from our side:
1. The goal behind our CRM solution is to level the playing field
between Tier 1
: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
by Ubiquiti Employee UBNT-Robert 2 weeks ago
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Hi Guys --
Thanks for all the feedback. Here are some quick thoughts from our side:
1. The goal behind our CRM solution is to level the playing field
between Tier 1 operators and you guys. We have invested significant RD
02, 2014 9:34 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based
management tool.
However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app and not
having a web UI for our
+1
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From: Roy r.engehau...@gmail.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: 12/3/2014 7:04:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
+1
On 12/3/2014 3:38 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company. We
03, 2014 6:38 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company. We aren't like Apple
consumers. For the most part, most of us are not buying these products to jack
with them at Starbucks and drink Coffee. We are out
ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:28:07 AM
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haven't i seen a presentation again and again how this trend reverses every
what, 10 years?
so, maybe, soon, it'll all start moving back to the desktop/server less cloud
again?
some
on their own PC. Then
Novell MS started servers and we went back to the network model. And now we
added the wide area network.
- Original Message -
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:28 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
haven't i seen a presentation again and again how this trend
reverses every what, 10 years?
so, maybe, soon, it'll all start moving back to the desktop/server
less cloud again
Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company. We aren¹t like
Apple consumers. For the most part, most of us are not buying these
products to jack with them at Starbucks and drink Coffee. We are out on
towers, in all kinds of weather, deploying these. No matter the driving
factor,
Well said, Justin.
/tipshat
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
On 12/03/2014 02:38 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company. We aren’t
like Apple consumers. For the most part, most of us are not buying
these
+1
On 12/3/2014 3:38 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company. We
aren’t like Apple consumers. For the most part, most of us are
not buying these products to jack with them at Starbucks
though.
*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company. We
:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
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mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Part
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On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 6:25 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Hmmm, I think someone is really trying hard to emulate Steve Jobs...
He always knew what his customers _really_ needed
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Well right. That's why I said few and not none.
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From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:34:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based
management tool.
However, I also
of this cloud based app, it will
soon go the way of the dodo.
”
From: Steve Barnes
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based
management tool
.
”
*From:* Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud
based management tool.
However, I also
to
give things away. Hence if they can't make money of this cloud based app,
it will soon go the way of the dodo.
”
*From:* Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I
On 12/2/14, 5:34 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app
and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices. When Ben
Moore said that we would not have to worry about that in the next
version I kind of thought about a hosted
Thank you UBNT for treating your customers like they are just a bunch of
hobbyists. There are many of us trying to run a business and having the
proper tools to do that is essential. For several years we have been
told that Air Control is being active developed, we have programmers
working on
, December 2, 2014 8:56:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
On 12/2/14, 5:34 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app
and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices. When Ben
Moore said that we would not have to worry
: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I'd prefer not to have to reboot my devices to simply change an IP...
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/02/2014 07:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
or take UniFi's config change\firmware update mechanisms and apply
/ICSIL
*From: *Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us
*To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:56:35 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
On 12/2/14, 5:34 AM, Steve Barnes wrote
: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a great big
poo stain.
If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial spert of
awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will eventually be
stuck by the wayside
On 12/2/14, 8:52, Daniel Peoples wrote:
Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does.
Are you referring to CNS Server?
~Seth
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ePMP doesn't support what?
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From: Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:52:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I was meaning if they did the same thing and got into the
billing/management combination utility.
*Daniel Peoples*
Resonance Broadband
*Resonancebroadband.com* http://Resonancebroadband.com
918-429-3620
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:
On 12/2/14, 8:52,
@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a
great big poo stain.
If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial
spert of awesome that will taper
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a
great big poo stain.
If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial
spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will
eventually
: *Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
*To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a
great big poo stain.
If it is a free to use tool like
Free.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:26:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Looks
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*From: *Daniel Peoples dpe...@gmail.com
*To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a
great big poo stain.
If it is a free to use tool
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Sorry, my brain works in mysterious ways(at least that's what my wife tells
me).
What I'm trying to say is let them take a stab at this, and objectively judge
the final product. They might accidentally get it right. At worst, when it
comes out
@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 11:41:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Don't get me wrong. I would love it if the product works as advertised. But as
with the unifi software. Allow me to load it on my server. That is all I ask
for.
- Original Message
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From: Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:03:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
It doesn't seem like it should be all that complicated to just remove the
billing parts and let us have the rest to run
, December 02, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
true... I don't care if it's there either, but if they for some reason think
the billing stuff needs to be kept on their servers where it's safe from our
meddling, I'd be perfectly happy if they just cut
[ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:21 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
With airCRM, airControl is dead.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of
Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:25 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
As long as it's something simple with a rudimentary API to build off of, I see
no reason why multiple polling/control types
How do you get to the AirView on the AC-Lite radios? If it's in there, I
couldn't find it (using 7.0.3u).
Thanks,
Sam
On 12/1/2014 20:33, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Excellent write-up.
I feel UBNT has kind of lost their way in certain areas. I don't
understand mFi at all. UBNT-Vision (aircam
...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:26 AM
*To:* ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
As long as it's something simple with a rudimentary API to build off of, I
see no reason why
*From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
*To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:08:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Via Adam?
Not likely.
I'm doing some work on making
mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 12:45:53 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
looks like we're going to have to come up with a third
party solution
this sucks
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
you really think the FCC needed this in order to mine ? Bwhwhaha.a.a.a.
what extension is the NSA from the FCC? lol
- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I
: Steve Barnes
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I want to first go on record as saying I to dislike the idea of a cloud based
management tool.
However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being
You gave GOT to be shitting me!
-Ty
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
wrote:
Wha? Are you serious?
On Dec 1, 2014 3:09 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:
It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only hosted in the
Us: We want a working AirControl for our Ubnt gear!!!
Ubnt: Here is a solution to a problem you didn't have.
Me: *facepalm*
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Adair Winter
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Wha? Are you serious?
On Dec 1
Is this the new fools day? DECEMBER FOOLS!
I see nothing on the ubnt site... buuut maybe mike knows something we don't?
I just don't see how this can be true... Most people can't make a VPN work
as it is how the hell am I supposed to depend on this to work if it's not
INSIDE my network?
On Mon,
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2ion=1espv=2es_th=1ie=UTF-8q=ubiquiti%20aircrm
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/Ubiquiti-Announcements-and-News/Announcing-airCRM-The-Ultimate-ISP-Management-Platform/bc-p/1118042
https://aircrm.ubnt.com/#/
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct:
On 12/1/14, 13:20, Adair Winter wrote:
I just don't see how this can be true... Most people can't make a VPN
work as it is how the hell am I supposed to depend on this to work if
it's not INSIDE my network?
Why aren't all of your radios open to the internet? You're obviously
doing it wrong.
Weare as well
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
On 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 12/1/14, 13:16, Josh Luthman wrote:
Us: We want a working AirControl for our Ubnt gear!!!
Ubnt: Here is a solution to a problem you didn't have.
I'm
*Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:55 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that over a
year ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to their faces) NO,
we do not want this.
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that over a year
ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to their faces) NO, we do not
want this.
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp
It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group. Who
better to tell them what wisps are looking for.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Message -
*From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I saw bits and pieces along the way and told them no every time
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group. Who
On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
radios? Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?
But it's CLOUD.
~Seth
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*Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group.
Who better to tell them what wisps are looking for.
- Original Message -
*From
Yup.. That is what those actresses said. My pictures are safe in the cloud
after all it is the CLOUD.
On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
radios? Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?
But it's
: Monday, December 1, 2014 6:53 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
On Dec 1, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:
Yup.. That is what those actresses said. My pictures are safe in the
cloud after all it is the CLOUD.
On 12/1/14, 16:44
Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly.
It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to compete
with the Geo Metro.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
https
On 12/1/14, 13:35, Mike Hammett wrote:
I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly.
But are we really their target market?
~Seth
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...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kees H
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:48 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Oh and their cloud solution does not need to be hacked. What about a
disgruntled ubnt employee changing all the ssid's
?
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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf
of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:35 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I don't know how anyone
elaborate please.
But are we really their target market?
~Seth
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mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Kees H
*Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 4:17 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
Because they listened to the people on their forum
That looks like it would be a great
Heck they just have to hack it. Who needs to ask politely anymore these days?
- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
I wonder if it's possible for the FCC to come
On 12/1/14, 6:14 PM, Tom Fadgen wrote:
I am sure glad that I own my business; and that said, as a business
owner I look to make choices from those available; not cry over what is not!
One thing is going to solve this problem, the one with UBNT not listing
to their customers and providing a lot
Well said Tom!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 1, 2014 9:15 PM, Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com wrote:
I am sure glad that I own my business; and that said, as a business
owner I look to make choices from those available;
Excellent write-up.
I feel UBNT has kind of lost their way in certain areas. I don't
understand mFi at all. UBNT-Vision (aircam stuff) is kind of a
messstill. ToughSwitch debacle, green cable (tough lesson for us/them to
learn), etc.
AF24 is great. AF5 is... can be great in the right
The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection
to the cloud.
(to be fair)
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your
Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that
point start the update? I'm not really familiar with the product but
what is the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other
way around )...
On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
The cloud doesn't
*To:* ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl
The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection to
the cloud.
(to be fair)
josh reynolds :: chief information officer
spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote
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