crypt boot sequence polishing

2015-12-13 Thread Xen
://www.xen.dds.nl/f/i/screenshots/ubuntu/ubuntu_boot-leakage.html Apart from the initial cryptsetup prompt (that could also use polishing, but that's a different thing). Regards, Xen. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe

Re: Wallpapers for Ubuntu 16.04

2015-12-19 Thread Xen
Why not a little bit of modesty I don't think any of them are great (as wallpapers)?. This is just from some idiot bystander, as I'm sure we'd all call me ;-). Alberto Salvia Novella schreef op 19-12-2015 19:42: In order to make the next release of Ubuntu specially eye candy, I have

Re: Wallpapers for Ubuntu 16.04

2015-12-19 Thread Xen
Alberto Salvia Novella schreef op 20-12-2015 1:40: Xen: I don't think any of them are great (as wallpapers)? Have you actually tried them as wallpaper?  Doesn't make a rat's difference. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings

Re: the right to make a difference

2016-06-06 Thread Xen
Sam Bull schreef op 03-06-2016 12:02: On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 20:39 +0200, Xen wrote: > This exactly has happened many times. If you take a proprietary > piece > of software, make changes and resell it (breaking the license > agreement > you received it under), then the o

Re: Article on GRSecurity, RMS, etc.

2016-06-06 Thread Xen
concernedfoss...@teknik.io schreef op 05-06-2016 7:01: Soylent news has published an article/discussion on GRSecurity, RMS, etc If you're interested it's here: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/06/02/214243 You know, at risk of sparking more controversy here: That article only

Re: the right to make a difference

2016-06-06 Thread Xen
Sam Bull schreef op 06-06-2016 17:02: Sam Bull schreef op 06-06-2016 17:02: As the patches substantially change the original code base, it is very likely to be considered a derivative, without needing to take into account all these other more complex factors. Of course, thank you, thanks

Re: the right to make a difference

2016-06-02 Thread Xen
Sam Bull schreef op 02-06-2016 13:36: On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 12:31 +0200, Xen wrote: > So I think the unfairness is very much there now. Spengler is now > actually getting something for nothing, where before he was not, > and > the whole intention of many of the contributors to li

Re: the right to make a difference

2016-06-02 Thread Xen
Sam Bull schreef op 02-06-2016 16:33: On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 14:35 +0200, Xen wrote: The intention of the GPL is not really relevant. What happens is that the authors remain to have a say about how the  product is used, if copyright is at play (at least the idea of  copyright). Yes

Re: GRsecurity is preventing others from redistributing source code

2016-06-01 Thread Xen
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4grdtb/censorship_linux_developer_steals_page_from_randi/ I also want to respond by saying that although everyone is falling over the Grsecurity developer, especially with relation to that reddit post you cite, and even though his responses

Re: GRsecurity is preventing others from redistributing source code

2016-06-01 Thread Xen
concernedfoss...@teknik.io schreef op 01-06-2016 16:15: He has frustrated the purpose of the agreement (the grant) he had with the original licensor, and thus the grant fails. In other words: he has violated the license. So what do you want? For him to go out of business? Do you want free

the right to make a difference

2016-06-01 Thread Xen
the suing and for what reason. I want to add in conclusion. That it should be. About. The right. To make a difference. It should be about the right to make a difference. The most important right is the right to make a difference ;-). Regards, and kudos, and good luck. "Xen"

Re: GRsecurity is preventing others from employing their rights under version 2 the GPL to redistribute source code.

2016-06-01 Thread Xen
concernedfoss...@teknik.io schreef op 31-05-2016 5:19: GRsecurity is preventing others from employing their rights under version 2 the GPL to redistribute (by threatening them with a non-renewal of a contract to recive this patch to the linux kernel.) (GRsecurity is a derivative work of the

Re: Better keyboard shortcuts

2016-06-24 Thread Xen
In case it matters, personally I wish people would just drop their hate of Microsoft and actually bind the Windows key on many keyboards to something useful. It is just not bound. Why? It is one of the most useful keys in existence and has been for a long time on the Windows platform, but it

Re: Better keyboard shortcuts

2016-06-26 Thread Xen
Jan Claeys schreef op 25-06-2016 2:28: While nowadays there are only two naming schemes that are still commonly used (IBM PC-based & Apple), a long time ago many computer companies had their own keyboard layouts & key names.  On many old keyboards these keys were named the "meta" and "super"

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

2016-03-28 Thread Xen
Colin Law schreef op 28-03-2016 18:38: Are these not issues for upstream Nautilus developers to consider rather than Ubuntu? The point is really that if people "downstream" *care* their voice becomes stronger 'upstream'. If a number of people downstream say "hey, yes this is a great idea"

Re: the fragile boot process [on encryption setups and home data]

2016-03-28 Thread Xen
You completely misunderstand the point of my message it seems. And then go and say that I don't understand stuff. And providing such standard (wikipedia) links is just very condescending, you know. If the halt-on-fstab-problem is Ubuntu related, then it is clear my message should have been

Re: Can we include HWE in the release version?

2016-04-06 Thread Xen
Bryan Quigley schreef op 06-04-16 22:35: > Hi all, > > The naming scheme of just "Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS" is no longer > meaningful when it comes to determining what kernel/mesa/xorg you are > on. It's also confusing to many users what 14.04.4 actually means > and it makes determining if you are

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

2016-03-28 Thread Xen
I just want to say that such a thing can make a great difference if it is included by default. Everything or anything that needs a customary script to be installed kinda increases the investment required to use the feature by 8000%. And if you have a 100 such things you want to change, it

the fragile boot process [on encryption setups and home data]

2016-03-28 Thread Xen
Not sure if this list is getting read much but: - in a default install (now Talking Kubuntu 15.10) everything works but a small thing has to go wrong for the system to fail entirely - this is not a resilient thing and it should get changed if the system is to be anything that allows people

Re: suggest policy: all GUI apps that display files/folders right-click copies full path

2016-03-31 Thread Xen
Tom H schreef op 31-03-16 10:38: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: >> Colin Law schreef op 28-03-2016 18:38: >>> Are these not issues for upstream Nautilus developers to consider >>> rather than Ubuntu? >> The point is r

Re: Feature suggestion - install packages as noon root using apt-get

2016-04-24 Thread Xen
Daniel Balosh schreef op 23-04-2016 23:52: Hi, This is not new, still thought worth bringing this up again: the ability to install packages using apt-get as non root is important. apt-get is wonderful, let's use it as noon root. The perfect solution: 1. User can have- "non root install"

Re: Feature suggestion - install packages as noon root using apt-get

2016-04-24 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 24-04-2016 8:34: It's not that simple. You can not just provide a --non-root option for apt-get and dpkg, that simply redirect installing to $HOME/bin, $HOME/lib etc., since a lot of packages require the root privileges to add system wide variables, change security

on performance in the live session

2016-04-23 Thread Xen
This is about Kubuntu but I am sure it would apply equally to a Unity installation system. There are some things that are incomprehensible in life. Performance of computers is sometimes one of them. I had a Windows 8 64 bit system with 4GB of memory of which usually 1GB was available and

Re: mmutable Page

2016-04-21 Thread Xen
Alan Pope schreef op 22-04-16 00:11: > Thankfully you don't need to trust it for it to be true. We made a > rapid and logical decision to mitigate the relentless spam we were > getting. This isn't a perfect solution. It's now harder for people to > do drive by edits, and we (admins) are getting

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-14 Thread Xen
Dale Amon schreef op 14-07-2016 16:55: I don't particularly like Secure Boot and UEFI, and in fact for development work I prefer having the ability to turn them off. That said, I would almost certainly want to set it up for a spacecraft system. There are reasons for Secure Boot if you are

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-21 Thread Xen
C de-Avillez schreef op 21-07-2016 21:48: On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:19:34 +0200 Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: > FWIW, this is the *only* reply to this thread that I will ever do. > I'm too busy following by secret agenda to reply to the other > mails... Rightly so! This is imp

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-21 Thread Xen
C de-Avillez schreef op 21-07-2016 22:19: But here you are referring to a mail thread on systemd-devel, and ranting about how people that know what they are talking about (and even tried to argue with you about it) do not agree with you. I never said they didn't know what they are talking

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-13 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-07-2016 10:15: You and I are advanced users and using secure boot at least is uncomfortable for us, we don't know, if it could cause an issue at a bad timing. It might expand security, but for my computer usage I didn't experience security issues in more than 10

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-13 Thread Xen
Tom H schreef op 09-07-2016 20:45: On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 03:39:48 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It's still more user-friendly to disable secure boot, than to deal with it,

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-21 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 21-07-2016 15:44: On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:14:28 +0200, Xen wrote: You can't change installed PCI devices on the fly No, I need to turn of the computer and after removing or mounting a sound card, I need to boot the Linux install. However, I only have one network device

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-20 Thread Xen
Markus Lankeit schreef op 20-07-2016 0:01: Also, the whole network device naming scheme is just a fiasco... Before, I could have a simple template for all my systems... now every system requires a unique template that takes me to the HW level to figure out what it might be. And this is

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-20 Thread Xen
Xen schreef op 21-07-2016 5:00: I believe the way to turn off the system is to do: ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules It was ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules. But that doesn't work, it used to work somewhere at some point. But no longer. So

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-20 Thread Xen
Markus Lankeit schreef op 20-07-2016 23:54: Hi Xen, Thanks for going to bat for us on this--sorry that no one wanted to hear you. Odd that a Debian dev would balk at this... Last I loaded the latest Debian (about a month ago), I got the good-old "ethx" interface names. Hmm Tot

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-21 Thread Xen
Martin Pitt schreef op 21-07-2016 7:09: Xen [2016-07-21 5:22 +0200]: It was ln -s /dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules. But that doesn't work, it used to work somewhere at some point. It does work, other than for USB devices, which is LP: #1593379. It got fixed in xenial

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-21 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 21-07-2016 11:57: On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 03:00:47 +, Xen wrote: I still don't like seeing this enp4s0 (under the previous motherboard it was enp3s0, go figure) whenever I look under the hood and detest it to the bone. Hi, this number already changes for my mobo's

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-19 Thread Xen
John Moser schreef op 19-07-2016 23:48: What Ubuntu needs most is a simple, non-buried toggle option to show the boot process--including displaying the bootloader, displaying the kernel load messages, and listing which services are loading and already-loaded during the graphical boot. Ubuntu's

Re: Ubuntu 16.04 Secure Boot Policy

2016-07-16 Thread Xen
Brendan Perrine schreef op 15-07-2016 8:26: Yes and secure boot is different for different usecases. I can see secure boot being geniunely useful for an atm on end not that I think there are implementations that use ubuntu that I know about. But if say you boot a malicous live os on the atm

Re: Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu Desktop on i386

2016-07-06 Thread Xen
Dimitri John Ledkov schreef op 30-06-2016 20:14: My current hunch is like this at the moment: - 18.04 to still have an i386 port in the archive, and be upgradable to. - 18.04 not having desktop/server install media (however maybe even releases before that) - 18.04 has "ubuntu-desktop" but

Re: Article on GRSecurity, RMS, etc.

2016-07-06 Thread Xen
Well thank you for your words, and apologies for not getting back soon enough. concernedfoss...@teknik.io schreef op 07-06-2016 9:56: My own life in the Linux world is constant opposition. Every idea you bring to the table, gets shot down. You get no support for anything you want to do. If

Re: Article on GRSecurity, RMS, etc.

2016-07-06 Thread Xen
Xen schreef op 06-07-2016 8:50: There is nothing left to see what is going on, and to "not let your sight be clouded by eyes of hate". I meant: There is nothing left but to see what is going on, and to "not let your sight be clouded by eyes of hate". You know, observe

Re: Better keyboard shortcuts

2016-07-05 Thread Xen
Dale Amon schreef op 27-06-2016 0:50: I believe it is called the Super key? What a stupid name to begin with! And Alt is called the Meta key? Equally stupid. [...] What on earth were people thinking when they tried to get away from calling it "windows key" and "alt key" While nowadays

Re: The Simple Things in Life

2016-07-22 Thread Xen
Matthew Paul Thomas schreef op 22-07-2016 12:28: This technique could be extended to the rest of the startup. Instead of the dots, show a determinate progress bar (that is, one that fills up). In addition, *if* the progress bar hasn’t moved at all in the past ~5 seconds, show the most recent

LVM data corruption

2017-01-21 Thread Xen
I just want to write a small note on the topic of LVM data safety. The version of LVM that ships with 16.04 cannot handle duplicate UUIDs. If you so much as DD a disk to another drive and run a single LVM command, your running system will be ruined. Chances are high LVM will prefer the new

Re: LVM data corruption

2017-01-23 Thread Xen
Robie Basak schreef op 23-01-2017 12:05: On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:02:11AM +0100, Xen wrote: The version of LVM that ships with 16.04 cannot handle duplicate UUIDs. If you so much as DD a disk to another drive and run a single LVM command, your running system will be ruined

Re: LVM data corruption

2017-01-23 Thread Xen
Gave you the wrong reference. "https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2017-January/msg00013.html; Is the right one. I wrote "It immediately replaced the good PV with the bad PV (that I was trying to change) so I cannot actually get to the "bad" PV (which is duplicate) to change it

Re: LVM data corruption

2017-01-23 Thread Xen
Robie Basak schreef op 23-01-2017 12:58: On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:42:37PM +0100, Xen wrote: Perhaps you could say the intent of my message is to urge a newer version for 16.04 as well, but that is up to you. I just wanted to state the issues here. This won't happen unless someone

Re: LVM data corruption

2017-01-23 Thread Xen
Forgot to say, for completeness: Yes any PV with a single VG with a single LV will do. Or conversely any VG with a single PV with a single LV will do. 1. Any type of LVM setup is probably going to be fine. 2. DD the entire disk including partitions including LVM partition (PV) is going to

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-18 Thread Xen
Louis Bouchard schreef op 18-01-2017 9:08: Hello, Le 17/01/2017 à 21:46, Bryan Quigley a écrit : On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: ... > There are two things here: > 1. make systemd journal persistent > 2. avoid duplicate logs from rsyslog > >

Re: When will the lighttpd be updated on xenial

2017-01-16 Thread Xen
Cadence schreef op 14-01-2017 7:06: Hi, The latest version of lighttpd available for xenial is 1.4.35 from April 2016. There were lots of new lighttpd versions since then. Most notably for me, 1.4.42 introduced mod_authn_mysql authentication. When will this version be available for ubuntu

Re: youtube-dl package is very outdated

2016-09-03 Thread Xen
Jason Benjamin schreef op 03-09-2016 18:52: There is also a frontend with youtube-dl builtin called youtube-dlg installable with a ppa: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/multi-platform-youtube-dl-gui-youtube.html (blog) On 09/03/2016 09:31 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: If you want/need a newer

User feedback UI mockup (on packages)

2016-09-29 Thread Xen
I said I would create a mockup, well here it is. http://www.xen.dds.nl/test/ It annoys the living shit out of me because it won't allow me to click buttons but it is not more than 90% done (this version). The idea is pretty self-evident but I hate myself here ;-). The annoying part is that

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 9:16: On 05 Oct 2016, at 04:05, Xen "questioned" the way things are managed system wide and per user. I recommend to do either a minimalist Ubuntu install, e.g. use the server image and uncheck all recommended package groups, then start to install

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
JMZ schreef op 05-10-2016 7:50: Is there really a huge learning curve for .bashrc and xinit? .bashrc is mostly a way to make an alias list. What I fear about snappy and other modularized systems is unnecessary complexity. I fear that simple commands such as tar -t are going to be replaced with

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 14:11: On 05 Oct 2016, at 12:09, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: [snip] Main problems in Linux have not been solved and now big solutions are built on top of it, and the consequence is that those high level solutions must be as shabby as the low

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:56: On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:59, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: Standardized things, at least for a distro. Each distro has got it's policy, a distro specific standard. We could chose the distro that fits best to our needs. I didn't want to respond to this idea,

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: hi, On Mi, 2016-10-05 at 04:05 +0200, Xen wrote: Xen schreef op 05-10-2016 3:32: > > In short, the discrepancy between what a user can do and what root > can > do, is too big. The result of this is that most services are installed comple

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:44: i must say that in many aspects i find nmcli more powerfull than ifconfig for scripting ...  it changed a lot within the last years ...  one big disadvantage is still that it requires a lot of dependencies ip or ifconfig do not require ... but disk

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:44: On 05 Oct 2016, at 14:49, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Ion Windows it is very easy to put some application on some usb stick and run it from there, but this is hardly possible even in Linux. You don't need to link against shared libraries. N

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-06 Thread Xen
Colin Watson schreef op 05-10-2016 21:44: On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Xen wrote: Oliver Grawert schreef op 05-10-2016 14:41: >along with that click packages are user packages and being used in >ubuntu products on sale since 2015 (snaps will replace them >eventually).

Re: libnss-ldap needs systemd service file.

2016-10-06 Thread Xen
Colin Watson schreef op 06-10-2016 13:36: And yet you then go on to describe more or less how to do exactly that using ExecStop. (Yes, this is technically "stop" rather than "start" and requires having a pseudo-service "started" before then, but I think that's an uninteresting matter of

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-08 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote: >> In Windows Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I had to look for it) it was about something that has *nothing* to do with security as it dealth with network

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-08 Thread Xen
Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29: On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 22:29 +0200, Xen wrote: >> In Windows Yes you conveniently break off my statement but (I

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-06 Thread Xen
Brendan Perrine schreef op 06-10-2016 23:54: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 14:49:21 +0200 Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: might not even be a problem. I honestly wonder why you need to run programs off a usb stick. I remember even when I was a windows users thinking why do I need that. I ha

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-04 Thread Xen
Himanshu Shekhar schreef op 03-10-2016 16:33: 3. Flatpak vs Snaps. Both are about to turn great. However, I feel like all major decision makers should come together to work on one standardized desktop ecosystem, and rule out the chaos of different distributions. Both are independent efforts to

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 17:05: On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:30, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 15:31: let alone that some people don't use fstab at all on systemd installs. So what do they use instead? systemd I still use systemd with

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-05 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 05-10-2016 17:02: o a On 05 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Errors? Hopefully warnings, such as the GTK GUI crap. When launching a GUI by CLI I sometimes add 2>/dev/null ;). KScreen. Lots of it. Of course there are probably

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:37: On 09/10/16 20:17, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: As a feature request that you could try to get implemented by the gnome guys you could suggest to their issue-tracker that gvfs support KIO-slaves. Also would be worth

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38: On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: ... I was not commenting on any particular topic, merely pointing out that that Ralf (I think) said there are some things that Linux "doe

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07: On 09/10/16 17:32, Xen wrote: The same is true with mounting samba shares, it is not possible with any degree of ease, today. Of course, I want to work on it, but I can't do everything alone, or at the same time. I'll just leave this here (copy

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: On 8 October 2016 at 23:58, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Colin Law schreef op 08-10-2016 18:29: On 8 October 2016 at 17:21, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Ralf Mardorf schreef op 06-10-2016 12:42: Just a very laste note. On Wed, 2016

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 16:48: On 9 October 2016 at 15:43, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 14:38: On 9 October 2016 at 12:56, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Colin Law schreef op 09-10-2016 9:28: ... I was not commenting on any part

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-18 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 18-09-2016 15:09: hi, On So, 2016-09-18 at 14:14 +0200, Xen wrote:   That won't install Ubuntu onto a 32-bit system, now will it. it will, and snappy images will actually be staying around for 32bit since they target embedded, where you even still see a lot new 32bit

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-18 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 18-09-2016 7:19: Perhaps the data is already there, but not in the way you wish. Maybe it's a complete step into another direction. It might be just the first step, of other steps, that maybe will follow one after the other. I'm not sure what you are on, or on about...

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-18 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 18-09-2016 16:01: with or without 32 bit support. The whole point was that "with or without" is not good enough. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support

2016-09-16 Thread Xen
Thierry Andriamirado schreef op 12-09-2016 19:54: I understand that the Ubuntu developers must choose. What is important now is to know that doing advocacy for Linux in developing countries must integrate this 2021 deadline. Late to the ball, but... I think that if you really did the

Re: LibreOffice Install and Use Problems

2016-09-28 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 28-09-2016 11:38: whatever results from this is definitely not supportable on an ubuntu list ... mint isnt a flavour like {x,k,l,ed}ubuntu{-mate} where distro  changes are collaboratively made in the archive and used by everyone with the same results, there are

Re: LibreOffice Install and Use Problems

2016-09-28 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 28-09-2016 13:29: beyond this how do you know the bug is not caused by a (possibly) patched libboost, a gtk patch mint applies, held back upgrades or some weird filesystem mangling the mint installer does ... there are millions of possibilities you can not take into

Re: LibreOffice Install and Use Problems

2016-09-27 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 27-09-2016 18:35: hi, Am Dienstag, den 27.09.2016, 08:51 -0700 schrieb paulwhee...@cox.net:   Package info: Version: 1:5.1.4-0ubuntu1  (xenial-updates) Unless I am mistaken, you are the package maintainers, so it does not matter what Linux system it is installed on,

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-10 Thread Xen
JMZ schreef op 10-10-2016 11:58: The vast majority of consumer boxes run Windows because of Microsoft's bundling deal with the manufacturers. It's nothing really to do with Windows performance or ease of use (both of which are poor). It's just that Mr./Ms. Everyday User doesn't really know

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-10 Thread Xen
amon schreef op 10-10-2016 15:53: Since the topic seems to be mounting of devices from user space... 1) You can use sshfs to mount pretty much any directory, anywhere to which you have password access on any mount point for which you have privs. I used to use it a lot. Works great. I

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-14 Thread Xen
Oliver Grawert schreef op 14-10-2016 12:06: hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.10.2016, 18:31 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:42:29 +0200, Xen wrote: > > Can you please come out of your psychosis now? On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:49:24 +0200, Xen wrote:. >  > > Please

Re: 4.8 kernel for Xenial

2016-11-21 Thread Xen
Sam Van den Eynde schreef op 10-11-2016 13:54: Hi, I'm aware of the manual possibilities to install it myself, but is anybody aware of an expected timeframe for the Yakkety 4.8 kernel to become available in the Xenial repositories? The main reason is to get a new version of zfs, since it

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-11 Thread Xen
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 16:52: On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: That's not really true. The vast majority of people would go screaming for a Windows or Mac PC if they had Linux preinstalled. The level of system maintenance I would have to give to my

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-11 Thread Xen
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 22:36: What I mean by maintain is make sure that updates are installed, just like on Windows and macOS. Aye. To me it is a detriment. I used to turn Windows Update off completely for years while I was running XP and 7. For me the incessant updates are only a

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-13 Thread Xen
Ralf, maybe you should stop telling other people what they should do. Just saying. That no one needs your advice on what to do, no one is asking for it. You don't determine what people are free to do and what not, and you are no moderator here. You are producing a whole lot of noise giving

on systems that require frequent updates

2016-10-12 Thread Xen
Tom H schreef op 11-10-2016 22:36: Absolutely. I'd switch on the update thingy for them to click OK for their systems to be updated. Here is a quick baffling picture on the topic of automatic updates. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CugYubMXEAALJ20.jpg:large This guy spent 11 hours getting his

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Xen
amon schreef op 12-10-2016 4:37: The problem is that in my desktop I end up with a race. The desktop detects the new device and ignores cryptab and fstab and asks if I want to mount or whatever. I have to give it a NO and then go to a root shell and execute a manual cryptdisk_start and mount

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-12 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 11-10-2016 21:16: "These are all practically unused options." And they are. I have never come across a single file that had the immutable bit set or I would have found out. If the graphical tools don't support it it won't be much use unless automated system

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:39: OK, I'll bite.. On 09/10/16 18:26, Xen wrote: Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 19:07: These are not consistently mounted, is what I was talking about. You will have to go to that mount point (browse to that network share) every time you

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:17: On 09/10/16 19:53, Xen wrote: I am pretty sure that any application that does not support GVFS will not see those mounts so easily. You will have to symlink them and that defeats the purpose of the system in a certain sense. There is no default

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Daniel Llewellyn schreef op 09-10-2016 21:43: On 09/10/16 20:35, Xen wrote: Personally I think SystemD is lower level and in that sense more dependable and more broad...ly available. It might not do the same things but... at least it is something both parties could use. Well, I would love

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-09 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 09-10-2016 20:12: Hi, this time I read your complete mail, I just didn't watch the video. A very last reply from me. If you notice, that low level software requires improvement, you could assume that this isn't something Ubuntu developers could change. A feature

Re: Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

2016-10-14 Thread Xen
amon schreef op 14-10-2016 18:11: I am not going to continue with this other than to correct some really strange assumptions. First, I was probably using Unix when the person who claims I must be amongst those who do not basics was still in nappies. Second, none of those suggestions will find

Re: Adding a kernel removal script to linux-base or elsewhere

2016-10-15 Thread Xen
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 15-10-2016 17:22: "Cryptic Shell Commands There are various cryptic shell incantations floating around help sites and search engines that promise to remove older kernels. Copy-and-paste mysterious incantations into your system at your own risk." should read "Shell

Re: 4.8 kernel for Xenial

2016-11-26 Thread Xen
John Lenton schreef op 21-11-2016 16:11: On 21 November 2016 at 13:55, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: Not to mention that 4.4 doesn't support 900 nVidia GPUs which have been out for like 2 years. As a happy user of a GTX 970 on xenial's 4.4, I'm puzzled by your assertion. Then I s

Re: ppa-purge

2016-11-29 Thread Xen
Jarno Suni schreef op 29-11-2016 20:11: On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:44 PM, Jarno Suni wrote: "debline" form that add-apt-repository supports, and URL form that add-apt-repository supports, too, but that is undocumented, are not currently supported by ppa-purge.

Re: Make systemd journal persistent | remove rsyslog (by default)

2017-01-15 Thread Xen
Bryan Quigley schreef op 12-01-2017 16:50: We could explicitly keep rsyslog supported in main for at least 18.04 for the for those who need it (or indefinitely if we find it's still needed for remote enterprise logging). I was thinking that we might have to keep it in main until 18.04 anyway

Re: ppa-purge

2016-12-01 Thread Xen
Jarno Suni schreef op 01-12-2016 6:51: On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:30 AM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: > Jarno Suni schreef op 29-11-2016 20:11: On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:44 PM, Jarno Suni <j_s...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: "debline" form that ad

Re: ppa-purge

2016-11-30 Thread Xen
Jarno Suni schreef op 30-11-2016 9:57: On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:30 AM, Xen <l...@xenhideout.nl> wrote: > Jarno Suni schreef op 29-11-2016 20:11: If removing Ubuntu components such as 'multiverse' or 'backports' is supposed to be supported, some user interfac

Re: Ubuntu in Chinese for Taiwan - Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 121, Issue 3

2016-12-06 Thread Xen
JMZ schreef op 06-12-2016 18:14: On 12/06/2016 10:21 AM, Jesse Steele wrote: As I understand, current Ubuntu users are sophisticated types like super-geeks, engineers, and professors. They probably provide most input for Ubuntu's knowledge base, but there is no reason Ubuntu can't work for

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