On 08/18/2010 09:29 AM, Lord_Devi wrote:
Here is the catch. The SQL database itself exists at a 'home office',
and these workers are wanting to be able to enter this data remotely;
in an 'offline mode' as it were.
Some kind of local cache is needed. As you point out the difficulty is
with
Tadas,
OpenOffice.org supports both Python and Javascript for macros, so no
need to worry about that other stuff or to learn outdated scripting.
http://api.openoffice.org/docs/DevelopersGuide/ScriptingFramework/ScriptingFramework.xhtml
On 07/22/2010 08:03 PM, John Kaufmann wrote:
You are right - and thanks for filing the issue - but that last
condition (good quality mailing list software) may be the catch:
Months ago, in discussion about another mailing list problem, Paul said
that the list manager software is really beyond
On 7/22/10 5:13 PM, James Knott wrote:
...Mail lists are one place where return receipts should *NEVER* be used.
James, maybe he's stupid, maybe he's just trolling, maybe he's
collecting business intelligence for one of our competitors. But you
are right, the using of Message Disposition
On 07/21/2010 03:35 AM, NoOp wrote:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments
That one would be of particularly good use, since they can be used as
case studies. It's not a complete list, but it does give a good survey.
Many governments are now requiring open
On 6/29/2010 2:35 AM, Lars Nooden wrote:
Please remember at least to vote for the official bug report:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5930
On 06/29/2010 07:11 PM, Tom Bell wrote:
That official bug report, 5930, has been sitting there for
about 8 years.
Yes, it has
Dean, Tom, everyone interesting in Engineering Notation,
Please remember at least to vote for the official bug report:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5930
/Lars
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On 06/28/2010 07:48 AM, Jeremy Yanofsky @ Ben Bronz Academy wrote:
Creating a Writing Assessment utility:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30t=31880
It sounds like a three stage process:
1. carefully read through a student's paper...
2. determine
On 6/21/10 3:50 PM, Landis Bargatze wrote:
I would like to reinstall OPEN OFFICE, but need some clarification. I've just
purchased a new computer at Micro Center and was told OPen Office was FREE.
I was charged over $100 for a 3 year subscription.
Who did you make the payment to? As
On 05/29/2010 07:24 AM, NoOp wrote:
On 05/28/2010 11:23 AM, Mark C. Miller wrote:
I've got a question regarding the effect of doing an upgrade to Ubuntu
10.04.
I got into OOo when I installed Ubuntu 9.04 after playing around with
8.10 a little. I stayed with 9.04 version through the
On 05/04/2010 09:22 PM, jonathon wrote:
(The basic responses I received were: Until OOo is fully compatible
with, and rewritten to support JAWS, forget OOo because OOo is
dysfunctional,
Actually it would be JAWS that would need to be re-written. More
practically, it could be replaced. But
On 4/6/10 9:12 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
PDF is IMO the primary file format used by Scribus. Scribus IMO supports
pdf more deeply then does OpenOffice.org.
A few times a week we get threads with misperceptions about PDF.
PDF is a for the terminal stage of a document's life cycle.
From PDF, it
On 4/7/10 1:25 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
...In either case, converting the PDF to
an editable format seems to me to be quite a legitimate requirement.
Only until the format is understood, after that, no. The purpose of PDF
is for display, not editing. If you want to edit the document, keep
On 4/7/10 7:07 PM, R N D Martin wrote:
Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a save as facility
which can be used to extract a text file from ...
It can only extract text if the text has not been converted to bitmap or
outline. Accept the fact that if you lost the
On 4/7/10 5:30 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
My crystal ball ...
Save the speculation for the stock market and the sob story for someone
who cares.
Having a metric buttload of legacy documents and a great wish to be able
to recover them in editable form, won't make them editable.
Even
... Please tell me which DTP is using a standards based file format?
... being an open source project, the source code is freely available,
Yes, but the question is about the format not the program. Source code
is not the same as documentation or, in this case, documentation of a
data
Hi, Raymond,
On 3/23/10 15:26 , Raymond Auge wrote:
I've been looking, and cannot find, documentation for the ns' mentioned in
most of the export filter stylesheets available.
OASIS would be the place to look for specs since they maintain the
standard that OpenOffice.org and others are using
On 2010-3-12 3:45 PM, Klark Ooi wrote:
When i open any pdf file in openoffice, it will open with draw. But from
draw, how could I save to other openoffice format like odp for impress?
Thanks.
PDF is just a wrapper that can contain just about anything, including
objects that really aren't
On 2010-3-11 3:13 PM, James Wilde wrote:
I'm using 3.2.0 on a Mac under OSX 10.6.2.
I have a master document in which the navigator shows all the
documents I have imported. There are more than a pageful so I have a
scroll bar. I have discovered to my surprise that I cannot use the
down
On 2010-3-11 6:12 AM, s. a. wrote:
Can I use Openoffice to write a script?
If so, how do I do this?
If you mean writing a script that will be run in your system, you can
use it like any other text editor. Just be sure to save the script as text.
If you mean writing a script that will be run
You've probably missed the brouchure tutorial:
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2008/03/printing-two-si.html
Templates for trifolds are also easy. One way is to use guidelines to
mark the fold lines and the margins near the fold lines. I prefer to
have a *very* thin, very light grey line
On 2010-3-8 6:41 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Yes, but other applications ODF support is often *very* different from
Openoffice.org's... meaning, the documents do *not* look the same.
If you want documents that render the same, then use PDF/A with embedded
fonts.
Regarding applications, there is one
On 2010-3-8 1:16 AM, Richard Detwiler wrote:
... with perfectly acceptable image quality for
on-screen viewing (which I think is what the OP needed).
There is also the option of doing HTML with thumbnail images for
preview, with links to the hi-res images when a closer look is needed.
How well
On 2010-3-6 8:48 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
You said With ssh forwarding and sshfs...
SSHFS is one way of getting access to files hosted elsewhere. You could
run OpenOffice on your machine and access files that are somewhere else.
The next step up would be regular network accessible storage, aka
On 2010-3-7 2:15 AM, Dave and Anna Whitehouse wrote:
I guess I have missed something..
Can anyone enlighten me?
ODF is already compressed.
The default file format for OpenOffice is the OpenDocument Format,
shared by other applications. By default ODF is already compressed
using Zip. See p31
On 2010-3-7 3:06 AM, Richard Detwiler wrote:
An important additional advantage is that essentially anyone can read
the file, whether they have OpenOffice installed or not.
Richard, an additional advantage of ODF is that essentially anyone can
read the file, whether they have OpenOffice.org
Jim, the best recommendation is to not waste your time with any of the
old, undocumented, proprietary binary formats. That era is over.
What problem are you trying to solve?
Regards,
/Lars
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On 2010-3-4 3:16 PM, James Greenidge wrote:
If higher-up clients sniff on OOo
Please don't confuse OOo and ODF. One is a program, the other is a
format. Can you quote or paraphrase the specific problems, real or
perceive, they tell you they have with ODF?
and demand .doc files of ...
Why?
On 2010-3-4 5:08 PM, James Greenidge wrote:
Most businesses I deal with don't discriminate. If they say WINDOWS
format ONLY!, they ALL seem to eat anything .doc and have no problem
with it.
Well lucky for them OOo does use a Windows format: OpenDocument Format.
Many applications, even on
James wrote:
I tried to export as jpg and I checked automatically select file extension.
I typed 'logo' and it saved logo.jpg.jpg .jpeg .jfif .jif .jpe.
You probably meant to save the drawing as GIF or PNG and not JPEG. The
compression used by JPEG creates terrible compression artifacts in
James Elliott wrote:
The outside printing firm prefers we send all artwork and proofs as PDFs.
We receive artwork from design studios in PDF format in our sign making
business.
Depending on the type of printing process you need to be sure that lines
or colored regions are thick enough.
M Henri Day wrote:
OOo users may find of interest this notice (
http://preview.
Again, not sure where the suspicious[1] link really goes to or was
intended to go to. There is, to be sure, an article in Politiken, but
it reads more link an ad for Microsoft or more specifically for the
M Henri Day wrote:
It would seem that I have failed
Failed on purpose by forgetting or ignoring the advice about, among
other things, trolling with link shorteners: the less they are used the
better.
As 'Programmer In Training' reminds you, it is silly to use a URL
shortener in an email.
M Henri Day wrote:
[flamebait redacted]
Henry, here are some more URLs about ODF, without link shortening[1].
Two years ago, the Swedish Standards Institute(SiS) approved the
OpenDocument Format
http://www.osor.eu/news/se-odf-made-national-standard-in-sweden
It is listed as Open Document
M Henri Day wrote:
[Henri's own flamewar redacted]
What your original troll that started the thread has to do with OOo
support is not clear. ODF discussions belong on disc...@openoffice.org,
for the most part.
It could mean that there will be more confusion in the support
discussions about
Barbara Duprey wrote:
Lars, I know it doesn't *really* support ODF (hence the quotation marks
in what I said), but sp2 opens and writes files with the ODF extensions.
And then promptly destroys part of the document...
This allows them to claim that they do support ODF, and they also claim
M. Fioretti wrote:
I have not clear how a switch to mailman would reduce such messages.
Mailman is much more configurable.
The configuration option Generic nonmember action can be used to
either auto-subscribe the unsubscribed sender, reply with a warning, or
both, or something else such as
Barbara Duprey wrote:
Why is this discussion staying on the users list?
Because in practice most of the users' list messages are about
administrivia, especially dealing with list management.
But for what it is worth here is a bug report and discussion can move there:
M. Fioretti wrote:
I suggest that everybody just follows the strategy explained
here:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=65332
What would be the correct venue to get the users' list upgraded to
Mailman and off of CollabNet?
/Lars
M. Fioretti wrote:
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 21:40:55 PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote:
M. Fioretti wrote:
I suggest that everybody just follows the strategy explained
here:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=65332
What would be the correct venue to get the users' list
Here is the correct link to the article, one that does not go to a scam
site:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009122612211929
It's not very smart to either send or follow the scam links nor to
tolerate people that, for whatever reason, send scam links to a public
mailing lists.
regarding
interoperability.
/Lars
On 12/27/2009 11:19 AM, Lars Nooden wrote:
Here is the correct link to the article, one that does not go to a scam
site:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009122612211929
It's not very smart to either send or follow the scam links nor to
tolerate
M Henri Day wrote:
2009/12/27 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org
Here is the correct link to the article, one that does not go to a scam
site:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009122612211929
It's not very smart to either send or follow the scam links nor to
tolerate
John Meyer wrote:
While I would say that using a shorturl on an e-mail site is a bit
apropos, I would disagree with the short-urls automatically equal
spam.
Close enough for government work. The Groklaw article is good and very
relevant to OOo use. Linking to it via a scam site may have
M. Fioretti wrote:
...create several problems it would be bad to ignore:
http://joshua.schachter.org/2009/04/on-url-shorteners.html
http://blog.grumet.net/2009/04/03/url-shorteners-are-bad-for-the-web
http://www.scripting.com/stories/2009/08/19/howtofixurlshorteners.html
so the less
Christian Lippka wrote:
NoOp wrote:
@Christian: it's a shame that a fine open source product/project like
OOo relies on a proprietary media player in Windows. It's surprising
that an option is not available to select and use an alternate open
source media player such as VLC etc.
I don't
Christian Lippka wrote:
Christian Lippka wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote: It's not a matter of re-inventing the wheel,
it's a matter of not being suckered into using APIs that are not
working as advertised.
They work as advertised, install an mp4 codec and it works.
And it does not rely
OOo allows also javascript and python macros.
If you use python then you have the same scripting language available
for OOo as you can use in Gimp, Blender, Amarok, Epiphany, gedit,
Inkscape, Rythmbox, Scribus, SPSS, and Totem.
Regards,
/Lars
Keith Clark wrote:
My problem is my bank wants $100 for 50 cheques and I only write about
10-20 per year. That is just robbery in my opinion so I decided to find
an alternative.
That's common situation, where checks are still used. I can't name any
suppliers anymore, but can say that there
I have an early draft of some clipart:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lars/Flyers/mount-pirate-party.odg
Where does clipart for OOo get submitted these days?
/Lars
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Uwe Fischer wrote:
I've written a short guide how to easily see whether a user is
subscribed to the mailing list or not.
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/How_to_know_if_a_user_is_subscribed_to_a_mailing_list
It'd be easier if the list software were set to flag
JSz. wrote:
A document has a number of chapters. I'd like to have page numbering in
each chapter in the form page n of nn, where nn is a number of pages
within a current chapter. How can I achieve it?
n would be found by
Insert-Fields-Page Number
nn would be found by
Wade Smart wrote:
OMG!!! hours and hours of work done in like an hour :D
Great!
... My question is - I have 36 different cells to apply
pretty much the same conditional formatting to. Is there a way to do
this without doing it to each and every one?
My guess:
1. Select the cell with the
James Elliott wrote:
Each line of the list starts with a tab - I want to get rid of the tabs.
How can I use Search Replace to do this?
One way to do that would be using regular expressions:
Edit- FindReplace-More Options-Regular Expressions:
Search for: \t
James Greenidge wrote:
Isn't there a plain English short-cut add-on out there that will do
these kinds of things via a menu of options and operations?
Attempt at Plain English:
\t is tab, but first check the box for regular expressions under More
Options.
Longer digression:
Regex is
jomali wrote:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:34 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Lars, given that I have a so-called «broadband» connexion, rather than a
dial-up, I can't see any advantages for me in using an email client rather
than directly loading my webmail provider. If you
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
2009/9/21 James Greenidge ji...@mac.com:
[snip]
Isn't there a plain English short-cut add-on out there that will do these
kinds of things via a menu of options and operations?
You could write one in OpenOffice.org Basic. Or someone else could. Or
maybe someone
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
Of course. I only mentioned Basic as an example. Sorry for not
mentioning the other options. BeanShell is also supported, by the way.
If you are a beginner though, Basic could be an easy waay to get the
job done, since there is a help section for Basic built in and
71234.3...@compuserve.com wrote:
Hi Jonathon,
Am just transitioning to Writer from other word processors.? Altho I
clearly need to learn to more efficiently use Writer's styles, my
vote is for a reveal codes option
Hmm. OOo is quite different from WordPerfect in that it doesn't let you
NoOp wrote:
Above also works with Thunderbird. Again, I don't/won't use gmail, so
you'll need to sort that bit out on your own... sorry.
Mail provides mail service with the standard, IMAP:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=75725
IMAP clients like Thunderbird will thus
Mark C. Miller wrote:
I'm a school teacher and would like to make copies of OOo available to my
students to install on their home computers.
As mentioned, regular Linux users, if they have net access, can just
click and OOo will be installed on their machine. Macintosh is about as
simple:
Charles T. Bell wrote:
I am using kubuntu 9.04, Jaunty Jackalope with OOo 3.0.1.
I know many are going to say upgrade to 3.5x. Fine, however,
I am using the repositories and can only load what they have
configured to work with kubuntu...
If, and only if, you wish to try newer versions while
Charles T. Bell wrote:
Lars,
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I did not find
where OOo is listed anywhere in the backports and to
be sure I went through all the listings.
Again, thank you!
Sorry. I should have checked first. I had used that method with debian
stable earlier to
NoOp wrote:
Above also works with Thunderbird. Again, I don't/won't use gmail, so
you'll need to sort that bit out on your own... sorry.
GMail works with Thunderbird and probably any other IMAP client, since
GMail provides mail service with the standard, IMAP:
Barbara Tobias wrote:
[snip]
I am using Linux, Ubuntu 9.04.
[snip]
Quicken (to be able to download transactions from my bank
weekly)
Quicken is rumored to run under WINE.
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=107
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT2282537026.html
Barbara Duprey wrote:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Printing_mailing_labels
That's a good description.
One pointer that is missing is that after all the on-screen PDF reviews
are done, printing tests can and should be printed on
steve kolars wrote:
I need help with headers, and cannot figure out page numbering. I can make
a running header with page numbers, but I do not want the page number to
show on the first page. I cannot figure out how to keep the page number
from printing on the first page.
That is described
Robert Holtzman wrote:
...
Without further details, and though it is theoretically possible, I'm
skeptical of his claims. If I have myself encountered upgrades that
broke hardware compatibility, then it has not been in recent memory.
Second, the individual you refer to in the computer club
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars,
Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 15:35)
In that mail it looks like he writes about attempting to dodge or
camouflage the issue by calling the activity by a different name.
Your suggestion to gather data seems different and very unrelated to
Mathhias' apparent proposal
Rob Clement wrote:
Tommy
Could you please concentrate on the main reason for this forum. The
reason is to help people with problems with the openoffice software.
Please start helping
He is, albeit in a more proactive way then many are used to.
-Lars
AG wrote:
[snip]
Most distros will come with an OOo binary with
these dependency issues already taken care of.
Along those same lines, you can use a source package to take care of the
dependencies.
Regards
-Lars
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Cor Nouws wrote:
Tommy27 wrote (16-9-2009 7:04)
well said John, the Ribbon is gonna kill OOo usability!!!
P.S. thanks for signing the petition: updated count is 352
OpenOffice.org does not plan to implement the ribbon. A ribbon-like
idea only plays a role in prototyping, together with many
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote (16-9-2009 14:53)
Matthias said much earlier in this thread that what
'renaissance' was about was the implementation (aka copying) of The
Ribbon in OOo, but called by a different name. [...]
He did not. You obviously missed the mail about that
http
Tommy27 wrote:
again the same false accuses...
i'm not the first author of the petition so i cannot edit it...
If you can't find the authors of the petition, please take a few moments
to create a new one at a legitimate petition service.
No one outside of a small circle of de Icaza types wants
Tommy27 wrote:
your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p
Larry or some of his kind might be paid to be the turd in the Internet
swimming pool, but it's no longer acceptable to stay quiet and simply
added more chlorine on the condition that Larry and co float down at
their end of the
L Duperval wrote:
I am creating a booklet (well, a series of booklets, actually) that will
...
Does anyone have tips or recommendations for me?
For book and booklet printing, you'll want gutter margins that allow you
enough space to glue, sew, or staple the pages together:
Format - Page -
Lars Nooden wrote:
L Duperval wrote:
I am creating a booklet (well, a series of booklets, actually) that will
I forgot to add those instructions were for OOo Writer, the word
processor. You *might* be able to import the PostScript file later into
Scribus, but it will really draw on system
John Jason Jordan wrote:
Importing PostScript into Scribus as vectors makes Scribus run
extremely slowly. Also, there is a bug where characters above U-2FF
tend to be moved about on the line, like on top of other characters.
...
Then, even if Scribus might be the better tool for the job, the
Cor Nouws wrote:
... So anything that
might look as being related (even in distance) cannot be else then bad
also, isn't it?!
Hmm. It's called learning. Try it.
Lemme guess, you were surprised each and every time Lucy didn't let
Charlie Brown kick the football, right?
Regards
-Lars
John Boyle wrote:
... Specifically, I would like to see mail merge
improved, although it is not as bad as it was, it could use some fine
tuning!
Where are the lumps currently? Mailmerge(*) is one of the most
important features for secretaries and office managers. (Document
templates being
Per Joh wrote:
Now it’s time for me to “log-of” this list
Be sure to unsubscribe.
Welcome back at a future date when you are ready to improve OOo or
understand what 'learning curve' means:
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/02/microsoft_offic.html
Regards,
-Lars
Cor Nouws wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote (7-9-2009 10:01)
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
To make it easier for you, to see a bit of the latest prototype (0.16),
a Dutch journalist was so friendly to publish this:
http://webwereld.nl/gallery/63487/openoffice
M Henri Day wrote:
I should have nothing against an updating to the OOo GUI, but I can't help
thinking that it's what's under the hood that is most important. Still, we -
the developers - do have to keep in mind that new users to OOo are often
going to have a background in MS Office 2007 and
There is no profit in copying failure. I, for one, moved to OOo after
testing all the alternatives I could get hold of for spreadsheets and
word processors. Even though I was used to MSO, it sucked donkey balls
so badly that a change was needed in order to stay productive with
reports and
Nice dodge, Henri. If you have only the unlucky misfortune to appear
accidently as deIcaza types intent on floundering the UI, then that is
unfortunate.
Let's check if there is any commmon ground:
Quick quiz:
Q: What is the goal of OOo?
a) a deIcaza-style M$ love-in, dutifully
M Henri Day wrote:
... «MS love-in» is hardly my style, as
I'm sure the retirees here in Stockholm to whom I am constantly suggesting
alternatives would be willing to testify...
Well they can testify on paper. 100 SEK notes will do just fine as
stationary, their nice and light colored and
John Boyle wrote:
... What I CANNOT understand is WHY this constant and continual
upgrade, upgrade, when all that is needed is simple changes to improve
what is NOW a BASICALLY sound program!
So, I went to WordPerfect, but ...
WordPerfect also lost to bundling. You could buy WP for $199
Per wrote:
netiquette ??? vart tog det vägen ???
I have long been an advocate of netiquette. And I have grown up in a
region, as well as community, where kids could and did get their mouths
washed out with soap. My mouth remained soap-free FWIW.
The bullshit (1) won't stop as long as people
Per wrote:
/Keith Curtis, an 11-year veteran of Microsoft
Microsofters appear to be all bullshitters and charlatans (1) and look
thoroughly unqualified to speak on any ICT topic. Find anything they've
done and chances are you'll find it was developed 10-20 years earlier
and in use in business
The Engineering notation bug ( #5930 ) has been an obstacle to use of
OOo in the scientific communities. For over seven years, it has been a
factor in keeping OOo out of many fields.
Add more votes and wait another seven? What should be done?
Mathias Bauer wrote:
... They deserve a better treament
than insinuations that they just would be out for aping the r*.
Unless that is what they are doing. :P
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ...
-Lars
NoOp wrote:
$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
That's a short-term useful suggestion but does not help in getting the
user off of the proprietary fonts. In this case, it is the bottom of
the barrel, MS fonts.
There will always be outlier typfaces that some graphic artist has made
or found.
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
Since English is not my first language (and I don't have
a second language) I am not sure what ”slamming” and ”flaming” means
In case you have a third language,
slam ~= tukta
flame ~= skälla ut, med antydning att det är ändemål i för sig
Bernd Eilers wrote:
Will the fact that this petition contains advertising for scam sites
The petition does need to move to a serious petition site, away from the
scam site, in order to be taken seriously. Otherwise, we'll just have
to conclude that it is a very clever troll.
-Lars
James E. Lang wrote:
Vulgarities are neither welcome nor useful on this list (IMNSHO).
Get over it.
Stronger ones are unfortunately not available and the ones available do
severely understate the stupidity and harm of the proposal / troll to
imitate the ribbon.
It's quite vulgar propose to do a
John Boyle wrote:
To all users: I am curious as to why OpenOffice needs a new Gui? Can
someone please explain that to me, as I find it is the easiest program
to work with from opening to closing it when finished! Why on earth
change the part of the program that makes it work the best? That is
A bad idea is a bad idea. No need to burn up developer time just so we
can say told you so
Before any discussion of UIs can be productive, there have to be some
good data on UI strengths and weaknesses.
-Lars
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Mathias Bauer wrote:
Lars Nooden wrote:
Mathias Bauer wrote:
I can even imagine a much simpler approach: just keep the old UI as an
option and use usage tracking to find out how many users switch to it.
Studies for the courts found in 1996 that even back then 60% kept the
default settings
Mathias Bauer wrote:
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I say I dislike the ribbon but suggest anyway that we try copying it.
/paraphrase
You'll find that a proposal to gather data on UI usage, strengths and
weaknesses will be widely supported. Let's not spoil it by piggybacking
the let's copy the ribbon rider onto
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