[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
*blink* *blink**blink*... rubs eyes *blink* *blink*... David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My videos are hosted on a porn server-- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs

[videoblogging] Old Hi-8 analog to digital conversion?

2006-04-08 Thread Digital
We were watching old home videos of the kids when they were just babies tonight because the youngest one turns 9 tomorrow. All Hi-8 stuff, no DV back then...curious as to what people have done to inexpensively convert the analog stuff to the highest quality digital? Hardware, software or service?

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
I sent an email on my videos for Cirne and got the series ID to claim it. I replied that my other vlog, Tech Alley ( http://techalley.cirne.com/ ) , is also showing up on veoh and how to get the series id to claim it. A samples is this:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
I honestly don't know how this can be made right.First thing, though, stop spidering immediately. Remove all unclaimed feeds at once. Not just the feeds of those who discover what you are doing. All of them. Doing those things could go a long way in showing your intentions.On 4/7/06,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,On 4/7/06, dmitry_veoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne,I undertand your frustration, but I assure you we are not doing thisto inflate numbers.We are just trying to create a good service.Iagree that this is serious business, but I think that our intent is in line with video bloggers; to help

Re: [videoblogging] Old Hi-8 analog to digital conversion?

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
Devlon uses a tv tuner card in his computer (less than $100) to digitize the content. You need an RCA cord to plug into the cam and computer.One thing we've had terrible trouble with, though, is the sound going out of sync. It seems to capture audio at a slightly different rate than video. The

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Stephanie Bryant
Er Um My husband sells adult DVDs over the Internet. He's a very above-the-board businessman, which is why we don't live in a mansion in Beverly Hills. But, yeah. Porn servers tend to buy more bandwidth than they need. So I use some. Just so it doesn't go to waste, you understand.

Re: [videoblogging] Old Hi-8 analog to digital conversion?

2006-04-08 Thread Stephanie Bryant
My Sony Handicam takes Hi8 and Digital8. To get the Hi-8 tapes onto the hard drive, I put them in the Handicam and import in iMovie like normal, via firewire. The main difference from my standpoint is that you have to manually press play on the camcorder: iMovie can't send the play command for

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
Yes. I understand. Of course. *blink* I need to edit my videos earlier in the evening. My mind is playing games with me. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er Um My husband sells adult DVDs over

Re: [videoblogging] Old Hi-8 analog to digital conversion?

2006-04-08 Thread Devlon
On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Sony Handicam takes Hi8 and Digital8. To get the Hi-8 tapes onto the hard drive, I put them in the Handicam and import in iMovie like normal, via firewire. The main difference from my standpoint is that you have to manually press play

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Stephanie Bryant
On 4/7/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephanie Bryant wrote: Actually, they're outright infringing on my husband's videoblog. I empathize, and I appreciate that you wrote them directly, but how is all this different from the way netculture has treated musicians via MP3, or how

Re: [videoblogging] Old Hi-8 analog to digital conversion?

2006-04-08 Thread Michael Verdi
I have the same setup as Stephanie though I've also used it often for converting VHS also. I'll run a VCR into the analog imputs of the camera and record the video to DV (some cameras don't make you do this - they just pass the video on through to firewire). Then play back the DV and capture

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
Porn bandwidth is a terrible thing to waste. Sowwy, couldn't resist. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er Um My husband sells adult DVDs over the Internet. He's a very above-the-board businessman, which is why we don't live in a mansion

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread dmitry_veoh
Markus, It is in our marketing group's to-do list, and is on my calendar. I have already approved the budget for the terabyte sponsorship. From the vloggercon web site -- Vloggercon needs sponsorships to keep the price of the conference down– we aren't a bunch of Hollywood Fat Cats, y'know. We

Re: [videoblogging] Who owns culture?

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:37:10 +0200, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I think the Sonny Bono extensions to US copyright law were pretty bogus, but more and more I'm realizing that creativity and privacy are inextricably linked... if you create some digital bits, does that mean anyone

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:12:39 +0200, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Little green tickets of money are one way to be selfish. Being the center of attention is another way to be selfish. There are incentives for Slashdot and Digg, just as for any commercial entity. You're still not

[videoblogging] Videobloggingweek2006

2006-04-08 Thread Steve Tatham
Well, I did it. I managed to post a sixth day. I however, wasn't up to the challenge of not using a camera. It's been fun participating and checking other's work, even if I haven't followed all the rules. And if I knew my way around Technorati I might actually tag my videoblogs so they show

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Randy Mann
From: dmitry_veoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 04:56:03 - Anne, I undertand your frustration, but I assure you we are not doing this

RE: [videoblogging] Porno Comment Spam

2006-04-08 Thread Monique Danielle
Hi Markus, Thanks for the tip. I'm terrible when it comes to typos :o CheersMonique Daniellehttp://www.vlogchallenge.com- This Week's Challenge: Dangerhttp://www.vlogdiva.com- This Weeks Video: Networking Tips -Original Message-From: Markus Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Stephanie Bryant
On 4/8/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:12:39 +0200, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're still not respecting the rights of creators. If someone rips off your website, blog, search history, financial data, does it matter if they get something

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Peter Van Dijck
What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this out for comments here. Here's one I personally could live with: this kind of re-hosting should be opt-in. That would mean that: 1) They remove ALL videos they've spidered and rehosted from their site. 2) They only keep the ones for

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:39:09 +0200, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/8/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:12:39 +0200, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're still not respecting the rights of creators. If someone rips off your

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this out for comments here. Here's one I personally could live with: this kind of re-hosting should be opt-in. That would mean that: 1) They remove ALL

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
I agree with removing the unclaimed feeds. Most definitely. And they should stop spidering other sites. As of this moment, the spiders are still rollling. I see that ZipZapZop has a new vid out. On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes copyright from the instant it is created regardless whether or not you have actually gone and registered it. Regardless, everyone should be putting a © somewhere on their sites no matter what the case. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
Did you read what I wrote? Under US Copyright law you cannot sue for statutory damages unless you've registered your work. You can still sue for actual damages. I never claimed that you have to register your work to obtain copyrights (those are automatic for anyone living in a country that

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes copyright from the instant it is created regardless whether or not you have actually gone and registered it. Andreas was talking about monetary damages - I think

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Markus Sandy
actually you are wrong and andreas is quite correct about this specifically the *statutory* damages part his point is that without registration, you don't get that so easy (or at all) David Howell wrote: Actually, that's not true. An artists work becomes "copyright" from the instant it

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:23:24 +0200, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually you are wrong and andreas is quite correct about this specifically the *statutory* damages part his point is that without registration, you don't get that so easy (or at all) US legislation is pretty stupid

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
Ok. We have asked to have our feeds removed from Veoh. Our new video was picked up this morning.I did notice, however, that they have stopped the ourmedia and blip feeds. Smart thinking as ripping off the content of other video hosting services will lead to major lawsuits (easily winnable ones

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Devlon
On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is an acceptable response from Veoh? I'm throwing this out for comments here.Acceptable response? I am annoyed by Veoh's response already. A better question would be 'what is an acceptable action'. All I've heard is reposnse and not

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
My bad. However you can register your work any time before filing a lawsuit. If you dont register your work within 3 months, then you can sue for... (1) an injunction against further infringement; (2) the recovery of profits from the infringer; and (3) other provable damages. So, that said, you

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I agree with this. The answer cannot be, we allow people to opt out. The answer must be, we only host videos that users have uploaded or have opted in for us to pull, trancode, and redistribute. If there has not been an opt in action on behalf of the content owner, then answer must be to remove

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Peter Van Dijck
The point I am trying to make is: I want action, and removing all videos (not just feeds, videos) they gathered without opt-in would be a start.Peter--http://mefeedia.com On 4/8/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/8/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is an acceptable

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Jay dedman
It is in our marketing group's to-do list, and is on my calendar. I have already approved the budget for the terabyte sponsorship. From the vloggercon web site -- Vloggercon needs sponsorships to keep the price of the conference down– we aren't a bunch of Hollywood Fat Cats, y'know. We are

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
Lordy lordy. Here I was all high and mighty thinking they didnt have any of my videos and I just found one there. Guess what.. The video is less than 3 months old. I am within the limit to register the video. Guess who's heading down Monday to register this work? Guess who is going to be hit

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Adding linkbacks to the entries is not enough. The issue is rehosting content that you do not have permission to rehost and assuming it falls under your own terms of use (as though it were willfully uploaded by a consenting user who has chosen to opt in to the service). This denies traffic from

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread mikehudack
This is exactly what I asked of Dmitry when I spoke with him on the phone yesterday. I told him that I felt his best move was to immediately remove all of this content and start from a clean, opt-in only slate. I also asked him to remove all blip video from Veoh. Apparently he misunderstood,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
hi Jay,I don't agree that adding obvious linkback is a solution because Veoh is a social site with memberships, ratings, profiles, friends, etc. I do not like the implication that I am a member of a community because my stuff was spidered into it. Linking back may give a means to finding my

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
My videos from the blip.tv feed are still up on veoh -- and they don't appear to be associated to my blip.tv blog. Here's an example: http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e35579feature=1numResults=20query=dabble http://tinyurl.com/s2wqk -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Peter Van Dijck
On 4/8/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding linkbacks to the entries is not enough. The issue is rehosting content that you do not have permission to rehost and assuming it falls under your own terms of use Exactly. Here's what I want to see Veoh do: 1) Stop spidering feeds

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/8/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding linkbacks to the entries is not enough. The issue is rehosting content that you do not have permission to rehost and assuming it falls under your own

[videoblogging] massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
The thing with Veoh is only the latest example of something that has been pretty rampant and very troubling with many of the new Flickrs of video -- and that's the institutional disregard for copyright and the massive amount of infringement that is tolerated. Veoh just set up an automated

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread robert a/k/a r
Adding link-backs is not the point. If you are extending such and offer to Veoh please make it clear it's not representative of an agreement by any class copyrightholders who may be vloggers on this list and your own personal offer. On Apr 8, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Jay dedman wrote: It is in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread T . Whid
So what is the answer? More RIAA and MPAA lawsuits? I'm not excusing it, but if these people are banned on vSocial, they'll just move somewhere else. The genie is out of the bottle and etc first it was napster, then other p2p networks, then bittorrent and now it's these social sites. It will

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread T . Whid
typing too fast.. in my last email I meant to say in the last line: Maybe the US judicial system will ban Flash since it's allowing all this infringement ;-) On 4/8/06, T. Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is the answer? More RIAA and MPAA lawsuits? I'm not excusing it, but if these

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
This is almost funny. You've assigned "jibber jabber: the eddie underworld" to my account. This is Eddie Codel's feed, http://eddie.com/ http://blip.tv/users/view/ekai , not mine. Please remove this immediately from my account and you should also remove pulling his feed into veoh. The best

[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
News of privacies death has been exaggerated; it's alive and well. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is the answer? More RIAA and MPAA lawsuits? I'm not excusing it, but if these people are banned on vSocial, they'll just move

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I don't think looking the other way is a good solution. Yes, a user could get a new email address and start again, or move on to another service and do the same. But I think banning the user for violating the terms of use (which likely forbid using the service for infringment) is a start. -Josh

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread mikehudack
This is just unacceptable. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My videos from the blip.tv feed are still up on veoh -- and they don't appear to be associated to my blip.tv blog. Here's an example:

[videoblogging] Re: New macs will run XP

2006-04-08 Thread Steve Watkins
Native booting of Windows as opposed to virtual computer approach still has some speed/performance advantages. Yes its true that less emulation is required when Macs with an Intel Intel chip used, but any virtualisation stuff is still going to be slower than booting straight to that OS. If you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Devlon
fyi, I've been in touch with Ted at Veoh (he contacted me) and has removed my feeds from thier network. It still shows up in searches, but anyone trying to see the media gets a message indicating that it is not available. I am not sure if this is becuase things have to be done manually, or that

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread T . Whid
But it may be these web sites only option if they are going to provide tools to allow users to upload videos. Once one institutes a policy of policing every user video, it seems you could open yourself up to all sorts of legal complications. It would also be very costly. My point here isn't that

Re: [videoblogging] massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread robert a/k/a r
Vloggers, my personal opinion is a business person would immediately take down and destroy all copies of everything he scraped without authorisation, potential statutory damages and other liabilities are too great (disclosure: IANAL). If I was operating a video hosting company and my board was

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Devlon
In my opinion, a good solution is for site providers to be responsible with what they carry on their networks... On 4/8/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think looking the other way is a good solution. Yes, a user could get a new email address and start again, or move on

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2006-04-08 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,On 4/7/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?Begin forwarded message: From: Dmitry Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 10, 2005 1:23:16 PM EDT To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video Reply-To:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Please, its dead easy to recognize where most of the infringement occurs and to cut it down. Simply banning the accounts of those users would likely eliminate much of the infringing cases. You could also sample a user's first several uploads to see if they have a pattern of infringement. Or check

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
In my opinion, a good solution is for site providers to be responsible with what they carry on their networks... Exactly! This is what I'm getting at. -Josh On 4/8/06, Devlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion, a good solution is for site providers to be responsible with what they

Re: [videoblogging] massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,On 4/8/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:[...] One more thing. Now adding link-backs will not remedy the breachdiscussed in this thread, I disagree fully with someone's earlier post offering the addition of link-backs.I think the link-back thing was only a solution for content

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread T . Whid
Not only is it in their interest not to remove an infringing video because of the traffic it gives them, but it's also probably legally ass-covering not to until the cease and desist comes. The thing is, sure, it's simple to remove the obvious infringers, but then that makes one responsible for

[videoblogging] Flash Conference today

2006-04-08 Thread Charles Hope
In light of the hot discussion going on today, and the low turnout for recent video conferences, I thought I would remind people of the Flash conference which will start in about half an hour. http://voxmedia.org/w/index.php/Videoblogger_Videoconferences Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,I remember that there was talk of banning all P2P technology,... and then they realized that the underlying Internet itself was a P2P technology :-)See yaOn 4/8/06, T. Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: typing too fast.. in my last email I meant to say in the last line:Maybe the US judicial

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread T . Whid
would you agree that ISPs should be responsible for all traffic on their network? IMO, that's a horrible idea. On 4/8/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion, a good solution is for site providers to be responsible with what they carry on their networks... Exactly! This is

[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
An ISP is not in the business of gaining traffic based on popularity of content. Providers like veoh, YouTube, etc. are closer to broadcast networks on this in that they provide media entertainment. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, T.Whid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Adam Quirk
On 4/8/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The top viral clip on vSocial has over 20 million remote views. Its a clip from Family Guy (Peanut BUtter Jelly Time). It should be removed of course, it is not in the interest of the service to remove its top performing clip. This is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Michael Verdi
How hard is it to delete stuff? Comon!My videos are on there. I haven't claimed my feed and I'm not going to. I'm also not going to ask that they remove them because I shouldn't have to. I'm waiting for them to align their actions with their words. How long will it take?What really makes this

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2006-04-08 Thread robert a/k/a r
Charles, Hello. Why are you snipping out the part where Dmitri Shapiro announces his Series A and says We will NOT transcode your video like Google does and changing the topic to bittorrent. Charles, if you have something about bittorrent please start a new thread. Most of us know bittorrent

[videoblogging] Difference between c and cc ?

2006-04-08 Thread Randolfe Wicker
Enric said you should consider a "cc" instead of just a single copyright c.  Is there a legal difference?I couldn't figure out how to create a copyright symbol.  There isn't a key or anything on the keyboard.  I copied it out of the earlier posting and added text.  Isn't this the way it is

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
I really hope they dont remove my videos. I've now found 3 there that I have never given my permission for them to show. I am going to be talking to a lawyer Monday and registering the 3 videos that I've found so far with the US Copyright Office. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread T . Whid
Well, that's debatable IMO. It wasn't an a priori assumption a few years back that ISPs were not responsible for all traffic on their networks. People made the arg that they should be treated more like a phone company and that's become accepted (rightly IMO). On 4/8/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread Devlon
On 4/8/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How hard is it to delete stuff? Comon! My videos are on there. I haven't claimed my feed and I'm not going to. I'm also not going to ask that they remove them because I shouldn't have to. I'm waiting for them to align their actions with their

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2006-04-08 Thread Devlon
On 4/8/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, Hello. Why are you snipping out the part where Dmitri Shapiro announces his Series A and says We will NOT transcode your video like Google does and changing the topic to bittorrent. Charles, if you have something about bittorrent

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2006-04-08 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,Sorry. I was just trying to respond to one specific part. (I just snipped it down to the part of I was trying to respond to.)See yaOn 4/8/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, Hello.Why are you snipping out the part where Dmitri Shapiro announces hisSeries A and says We

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh transcoding feeds?

2006-04-08 Thread kelly belly
On Apr 8, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: (and who's going to pay $20 to register each vlog entry?) I know that this applies for photos -- so it most likely also applies to video -- but you do have the option for group registration if you have several works that are all part of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
It could be that Fox (or whomever owns the rights to Family Guy) is deliberately looking the other way too. Or it could be that in fact vSocial has a specific deal with rights owners of Family Guy that grants them permission to redistribute the content (doubtful). Assuming one has permission

Re: [videoblogging] Difference between c and cc ?

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:44:01 +0200, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enric said you should consider a cc instead of just a single copyright c. Is there a legal difference? I think Enric's comment was referring to a Creative Commons License (shortened CC). I couldn't figure out

Re: [videoblogging] Difference between c and cc ?

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
in HTML you can make a copyright symbol like this: copy; But, no, according to copyright law you do not have to display a symbol or date in order to have copyright protection. Every work is immediately copyrighted at the point of creation, and if no mark is present then it is assumed to be All

[videoblogging] Re:Re: Veoh transcoding feeds

2006-04-08 Thread Randolfe Wicker
Andreas Haugstrup write:"This hit independent artists way too hard, and vloggers even harder.If you don't register (and who's going to pay $20 to register each vlogentry?) then you can only sue for actual damages (*you* have to prove thatyou had an actual loss instead of the court setting an

[videoblogging] Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread Jay dedman
On 4/8/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't agree that adding obvious linkback is a solution because Veoh is a social site with memberships, ratings, profiles, friends, etc. I do not like the implication that I am a member of a community because my stuff was spidered into it.

[videoblogging] video conference topic: voeh

2006-04-08 Thread Markus Sandy
what else would you expect? http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=58fa55-3961 going on now -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread WWWhatsup
My guess is that Dmitry didn't say anything about spidering for precisely one reason, VEOH does not actually do any spidering. What they do is allow anyone to sign up and submit any RSS feed they fancy to their network, which will then proceed to distribute that to them, and to any other

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:09:09 +0200, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that Dmitry didn't say anything about spidering for precisely one reason, VEOH does not actually do any spidering. What they do is allow anyone to sign up and submit any RSS feed they fancy to their network,

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread Josh Wolf
This is beginning to seem almost reminiscent of the Blogumentary episode that transpired a few months ago. This is quite the reactionary group, and history has demonstrated that when this group is united around a particular, results are definitely within the realm of possibility. Now, the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread andrew michael baron
This is a strange argument and my feelings on copyrights are still developing but have changed alot over the last year while watching everything that is going on. Remember when iFilm was the biggest video website on the net? Not only did they hold as much copyrighted material as they could,

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread Charles HOPE
WWWhatsup wrote: My guess is that Dmitry didn't say anything about spidering for precisely one reason, VEOH does not actually do any spidering. Are you saying that somebody sat down and entered in all the zillions of feeds that they have listed here? I think it's pretty

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
hi joly,if you upload a feed to Veoh, it is my understanding that the feed will fall under the name of the user submitting the feed. it will be claimed by them. unclaimed feeds have gotten into the system through means of automation. that's why they are not affiliated with any Veoh user.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Eddie Codel
that's weird. i'm waiting to see how this all shakes out before i decide if i want my feeds removed. i think i'm happy for it to be there as long as there is proper attribution and link backs. -eddie On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 10:51:23AM -0700, Enric wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh's next step

2006-04-08 Thread Steve Watkins
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, unlike fireant, say, one can ramp up one's viewership without taking a bandwidth hit. A pretty good wheeze and a valuable one to the vidcasting community. But its not necessarily valuable to everyone, so it

[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
For me, the problem is that the videos of mine that Veoh has are videos that I made to advertise my wifes business. On the original posts on my site, I put a link to her site. Veoh does not link back to my site. Thus my wife is losing possible clients. Also, I am not credited with making the

Re: [videoblogging] Must See Vlogs

2006-04-08 Thread BevSykes
2. Very personal/emotional/real. I can't think of an entire vlog that is like this, as nobody has intense moments all the time. But I do like when I see a spot like that. If you want very personal/emotional/real, if not exactly terrific production values, I recommend

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I think that this thread is pointed toward YouTube and iFilm as well. I was just using the example of vSocial to point out how easy it is to discover and ban the accounts of repeat offenders. iFilm may have never been sued, but I'm certain they've received many cease and desist letters over their

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread andrew michael baron
Ok, fair enough. Instead of rejecting the sytem though, why not use the system to be more creative and effective in advertising? For instance, if you made an advertisement that explained where to go and what to do INSIDE OF THE VIDEO and did not depend on the extra metadata, you could let

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
Well cool, they removed the claim in my veoh account of your vlogs, Eddie. You can probably get your feed associated to your account on veoh. Email them with some sample urls of your video entries in veoh. On your veoh page you can put your website. -- Enric --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Veoh ** We are hearing you loud and clear

2006-04-08 Thread ryanne hodson
http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e55696wg9YwjDythis page actually shows my entire video in flash.THE ENTIRE VIDEO. not just a previewwith no link back to my vlog. please take me off veoh.thanks-ryanne-- me: http://ryanedit.blogspot.com educate in person: http://nyc.node101.org educate

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread andrew michael baron
On Apr 8, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Otherwise, what's the problem? Is anyone that has been complaining about Veoh (including me once before) lost any money or viewers because of them? Um, yes, I think that argument can be made, especially for sites hosting content that is

[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread David Howell
Coulds, shoulds, and woulds. The fact is that I didnt. The fact is that the videos are my property. The fact is that Veoh is using my content to make money. If you are telling me that the system is to take someone elses property and make money off it then they might as well come in my house and

[videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Enric
Well, veoh just removed my Tech Alley feed that I asked them to take out. So it looks like they're following our requests. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 8, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Otherwise, what's

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Anne Walk
if someone is receiving your work in it's entirety on Veoh, why, even if you have linkbacks placed in your videos, would they go back to your site? they are enjoying your stuff just fine at Veoh.also, on our site, we occassionally show other people's videos and comment on them, link to their

Re: [videoblogging] Traffic on Your Vlog?

2006-04-08 Thread BevSykes
1. How long has your vlog been up? I had a blog which was a supplement to my daily journal (which I've been keeping since 2000). I turned the blog into a vlog in September of 2005. 2. How many vlog entries do you have posted? More than 200. I don't know the exact

Re: [videoblogging] Re: massive infringement (was: Veoh Transcoding Feeds...)

2006-04-08 Thread Deirdre Straughan
FWIW, I put some of my video on Veoh ages ago, and checked back recently when I started my comparison test page. Seeing all the ruckus in here, I checked this evening and, sure enough, there were some videos of mine that I had not added myself, in an unclaimed feed. Still not clear to me which

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