RE: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[janet gross]

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you.
What a mess that was, but now, all is well.

Janet

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Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 5:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

That is great news, Janet. Glad you found the right fix.

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janet gross
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 5:24 PM
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Subject: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

Hi Everyone,



I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.

Sure enough, it worked.

As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice 
mail messages I was saving.

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to 
put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.

At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 
17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as 
it happened to others.

So, I wasn't the only one who was having this problem.



Janet

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RE: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is great news, Janet. Glad you found the right fix. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 5:24 PM
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Subject: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

Hi Everyone, 

 

I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.  

Sure enough, it worked.  

As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice 
mail messages I was saving.  

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to 
put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.   

At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 
17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as 
it happened to others.   

So, I wasn’t the only one who was having this problem.  

 

Janet 

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Re: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[Richard Turner]

Janet, that i great news. Too bad when they fix things like that, they are not more specific in the update info. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Mar 24, 2024, at 2:24 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone, 
 
I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.  

Sure enough, it worked.  
As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice mail messages I was saving. 

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.   
At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as it happened to others.   
So, I wasn’t the only one who was having this problem.  

 
Janet 






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RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You don't have to, but why one wouldn't want to do so is beyond me. Yes, there 
are a few instances where it may not work and you have to enter your PIN, but 
using Face Id 9 out of 10 times beats entering a PIN each time you want to 
unlock, it would drive me crazy.

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White
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:05 PM
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You don’t have to enroll Face ID.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 20:51, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Wonderful! Good information.
> Question though. I've still not done Face ID. Can I still go without using it 
> and enter a code, or will I be required to use face ID? I will be upgrading 
> from a 12 to a 15 Pro.
> Jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.
> 
> Great info, Malcolm.  Thank you for posting.
> 
> I am certain that you will love your new phone.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.
> 
> Hello friends.
> 
> Earlier yesterday here in the UK I received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max.
> 
> I was upgrading to this model from an iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> Once I booted the new device I was offered the choice of updating iOS to the 
> latest release which I did.
> 
> Once initial setup was completed including Face ID I chose to transfer the 
> data between the two devices.
> 
> This took no time at all and once completed my new device downloaded the apps 
> that were present on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> The only apps that required verification were financial apps like:  HSBC ESET 
> Home Idmobile and so-on.
> 
> Once my new device was approved by these applications my iPhone 15 Pro Max 
> was up and running.
> 
> The two devices are not that dissimilar in size so orientation was not too 
> big a problem.
> 
> The new iPhone feels somewhat quicker in its response across all apps and 
> using a variety of voices with VoiceOver.
> 
> My initial findings are that the camera upgrade does not have an impact on 
> the apps we as blind people would typically use.
> 
> Apple made the transition between the two devices as trouble free as it could 
> have been and I am pleased with the upgrade process and the device itself.
> 
> Hope this may help someone.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is no change in authentication, unless you turn it off you have to use 
Face Id or enter your PIN.


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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:51 PM
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Wonderful! Good information.
Question though. I've still not done Face ID. Can I still go without using it 
and enter a code, or will I be required to use face ID? I will be upgrading 
from a 12 to a 15 Pro.
Jim


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Great info, Malcolm.  Thank you for posting.

I am certain that you will love your new phone.

Mark

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Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

Hello friends.

Earlier yesterday here in the UK I received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max.

I was upgrading to this model from an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Once I booted the new device I was offered the choice of updating iOS to the 
latest release which I did.

Once initial setup was completed including Face ID I chose to transfer the data 
between the two devices.

This took no time at all and once completed my new device downloaded the apps 
that were present on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

The only apps that required verification were financial apps like:  HSBC ESET 
Home Idmobile and so-on.

Once my new device was approved by these applications my iPhone 15 Pro Max was 
up and running.

The two devices are not that dissimilar in size so orientation was not too big 
a problem.

The new iPhone feels somewhat quicker in its response across all apps and using 
a variety of voices with VoiceOver.

My initial findings are that the camera upgrade does not have an impact on the 
apps we as blind people would typically use.

Apple made the transition between the two devices as trouble free as it could 
have been and I am pleased with the upgrade process and the device itself.

Hope this may help someone.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

[Matt White]

You don’t have to enroll Face ID.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2023, at 20:51, portillo@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Wonderful! Good information.
> Question though. I've still not done Face ID. Can I still go without using it 
> and enter a code, or will I be required to use face ID? I will be upgrading 
> from a 12 to a 15 Pro.
> Jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.
> 
> Great info, Malcolm.  Thank you for posting.
> 
> I am certain that you will love your new phone.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.
> 
> Hello friends.
> 
> Earlier yesterday here in the UK I received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max.
> 
> I was upgrading to this model from an iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> Once I booted the new device I was offered the choice of updating iOS to the 
> latest release which I did.
> 
> Once initial setup was completed including Face ID I chose to transfer the 
> data between the two devices.
> 
> This took no time at all and once completed my new device downloaded the apps 
> that were present on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
> 
> The only apps that required verification were financial apps like:  HSBC ESET 
> Home Idmobile and so-on.
> 
> Once my new device was approved by these applications my iPhone 15 Pro Max 
> was up and running.
> 
> The two devices are not that dissimilar in size so orientation was not too 
> big a problem.
> 
> The new iPhone feels somewhat quicker in its response across all apps and 
> using a variety of voices with VoiceOver.
> 
> My initial findings are that the camera upgrade does not have an impact on 
> the apps we as blind people would typically use.
> 
> Apple made the transition between the two devices as trouble free as it could 
> have been and I am pleased with the upgrade process and the device itself.
> 
> Hope this may help someone.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

[portillo.jim]

Wonderful! Good information.
Question though. I've still not done Face ID. Can I still go without using it 
and enter a code, or will I be required to use face ID? I will be upgrading 
from a 12 to a 15 Pro.
Jim


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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

Great info, Malcolm.  Thank you for posting.

I am certain that you will love your new phone.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

Hello friends.

Earlier yesterday here in the UK I received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max.

I was upgrading to this model from an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Once I booted the new device I was offered the choice of updating iOS to the 
latest release which I did.

Once initial setup was completed including Face ID I chose to transfer the data 
between the two devices.

This took no time at all and once completed my new device downloaded the apps 
that were present on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

The only apps that required verification were financial apps like:  HSBC ESET 
Home Idmobile and so-on.

Once my new device was approved by these applications my iPhone 15 Pro Max was 
up and running.

The two devices are not that dissimilar in size so orientation was not too big 
a problem.

The new iPhone feels somewhat quicker in its response across all apps and using 
a variety of voices with VoiceOver.

My initial findings are that the camera upgrade does not have an impact on the 
apps we as blind people would typically use.

Apple made the transition between the two devices as trouble free as it could 
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RE: Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

[M. Taylor]

Great info, Malcolm.  Thank you for posting.

I am certain that you will love your new phone.

Mark

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Hello friends.

Earlier yesterday here in the UK I received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max.

I was upgrading to this model from an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Once I booted the new device I was offered the choice of updating iOS to the 
latest release which I did.

Once initial setup was completed including Face ID I chose to transfer the data 
between the two devices.

This took no time at all and once completed my new device downloaded the apps 
that were present on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

The only apps that required verification were financial apps like:  HSBC ESET 
Home Idmobile and so-on.

Once my new device was approved by these applications my iPhone 15 Pro Max was 
up and running.

The two devices are not that dissimilar in size so orientation was not too big 
a problem.

The new iPhone feels somewhat quicker in its response across all apps and using 
a variety of voices with VoiceOver.

My initial findings are that the camera upgrade does not have an impact on the 
apps we as blind people would typically use.

Apple made the transition between the two devices as trouble free as it could 
have been and I am pleased with the upgrade process and the device itself.

Hope this may help someone.
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Re: Updating apps in the App Store.

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Another method is put yourself on the App Store icon, and double-tap, holding the 2nd press; the Context menu ichard was mentioning comes up with this method. Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 17 oct 2022, a la(s) 11:59 a.m., Richard Turner  escribió:My favorite method now is to do a one finger triple tap on the App Store icon.That brings up the context menu.Flick right to updates.  Double tap.ON this screen, touch near the bottom of the screen to find where it says something like personalized updates or something.Now, refresh the screen with a three finger flick down.  From the personalize line flick right a few times  and you will get into the available updates, if any. HTH,  Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny BomaretoSent: Monday, October 17, 2022 9:43 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Updating apps in the App Store. I can’t find where it says update. So can someone please give instructions on what to do? Thank you in advance.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/D8AC0CEE-B65D-413B-8835-DF40763C663E%40gmail.com.



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RE: Updating apps in the App Store.

[Richard Turner]

My favorite method now is to do a one finger triple tap on the App Store icon.

That brings up the context menu.

Flick right to updates.  Double tap.

ON this screen, touch near the bottom of the screen to find where it says 
something like personalized updates or something.

Now, refresh the screen with a three finger flick down.  

>From the personalize line flick right a few times  and you will get into the 
>available updates, if any.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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I can’t find where it says update. So can someone please give instructions on 
what to do? Thank you in advance.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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RE: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

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Hi. From what I understand it just happens automatically and there is no way to 
force it.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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Hey, I got Air Pod Pros last fall and recall something about firmware 
occasionally being updated.  Does this occur during charging process or are 
there steps needed to do this?

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Re: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[CHELA Robles]

Speaking of AirPods Pro, I hear that Apple might be coming out with a second 
version and if that’s the case I will wait until it’s released to the public as 
for sale to get a pair. I used to have the AirPods second generation before it 
conked out on me the batteries stopped working internally for some reason.

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> On Oct 11, 2021, at 8:08 PM, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> Thanks, Richard, That’s great to hear, I was in hopes that this was the case! 
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> They update while connected to your phone at some point on their own. Every 
> now and then check under bluetooth more info on your Airpods and fbbick right 
> until you get to the firmware number.
> It should end in 400.
>  
> 
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RE: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[danneyyates]

Thanks, Richard, That’s great to hear, I was in hopes that this was the case!  

Dan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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They update while connected to your phone at some point on their own. Every now 
and then check under bluetooth more info on your Airpods and fbbick right until 
you get to the firmware number. 

It should end in 400.

 

 

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Re: Updating Air Pod Pro firmware

[Richard Turner]

They update while connected to your phone at some point on their own. Every now 
and then check under bluetooth more info on your Airpods and fbbick right until 
you get to the firmware number.
It should end in 400.



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Re: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

[Mike B]

It'll take awhile to download and you should be able to swipe left and right 
to get an idea of what's happening.  I wish I could be more specific, but 
when I tried to update my old SE we were having Wifi / internet problems and 
so I had to update using iTunes.

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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes


I do have it on the charger- hearing nothing so far- but no idea how long it 
will take on WIFI. So, is it true that WIFI usually takes longer than 
iTunes? Thanks for your ready help.



Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 6:38 PM
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Hi Cher,



The phone will be on when you update your iOS using Wifi, it just might be a 
little slower doing with Wifi verses iTunes.  I forget all what you will 
read or hear , but if you do use Wifi you'll be able to keep track of what's 
happening.  I'm sure you'll do this anyways, but I would plug your into the 
charging cable for the updating process.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Cher Bosch

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:14 PM

Subject: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes



Have always used iTunes- how do you find out the progress if using WIFI? 
Assuming you can’t exactly turn on the phone to check 



Cher





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RE: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

[Simon A Fogarty]

At do you mean by wifi takes longer than iTunes,

They are two totally different things.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Friday, 16 October 2020 1:28 pm
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Subject: RE: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

I do have it on the charger- hearing nothing so far- but no idea how long it 
will take on WIFI. So, is it true that WIFI usually takes longer than iTunes? 
Thanks for your ready help.

Cher

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
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Subject: Re: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

Hi Cher,

The phone will be on when you update your iOS using Wifi, it just might be a 
little slower doing with Wifi verses iTunes.  I forget all what you will read 
or hear , but if you do use Wifi you'll be able to keep track of what's 
happening.  I'm sure you'll do this anyways, but I would plug your into the 
charging cable for the updating process.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
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- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:14 PM
Subject: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

Have always used iTunes- how do you find out the progress if using WIFI? 
Assuming you can’t exactly turn on the phone to check 

Cher


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RE: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

[Cher Bosch]

I do have it on the charger- hearing nothing so far- but no idea how long it 
will take on WIFI. So, is it true that WIFI usually takes longer than iTunes? 
Thanks for your ready help.

 

Cher

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Cher,

 

The phone will be on when you update your iOS using Wifi, it just might be a 
little slower doing with Wifi verses iTunes.  I forget all what you will read 
or hear , but if you do use Wifi you'll be able to keep track of what's 
happening.  I'm sure you'll do this anyways, but I would plug your into the 
charging cable for the updating process.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

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From: Cher Bosch <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:14 PM

Subject: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

 

Have always used iTunes- how do you find out the progress if using WIFI? 
Assuming you can’t exactly turn on the phone to check 

 

Cher

 

 

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Re: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes

[Mike B]

Hi Cher,

The phone will be on when you update your iOS using Wifi, it just might be a 
little slower doing with Wifi verses iTunes.  I forget all what you will 
read or hear , but if you do use Wifi you'll be able to keep track of what's 
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charging cable for the updating process.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
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Subject: Updating IOS on WIFI instead of iTunes


Have always used iTunes- how do you find out the progress if using WIFI? 
Assuming you can’t exactly turn on the phone to check 



Cher






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RE: Updating Using iTunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven't updated via iTunes in many years and never found there were any 
issues with updating iOS straight from the device. I still will, however, 
remove all apps from the app switcher before any update and for major iOS 
version updates like the one just now from iOS 13 to iOS 14 I will also do a 
Reset Network Settings just before. Then after I reconnect to WiFi and change 
the name of my phone back to Sieghard's iPhone 8 I do the update.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Using iTunes

Gotter done and now good to go!

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

If you have or will upgrade to iOS 14, I think you will have to upgrade iTunes.
When you launch it, if you have it set to prompt for updates, you will get a 
prompt.
If you don’t, try alt+h and then arrow down until you get to check for updates.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Using iTunes

is it worth updating to the latest version of iTunes?  and if so how do you do 
that.  Janet

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

Yes, you have to update to the latest iTunes to deal with iOS 14.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

It must be the latest version of iTune otherwise it prompts you to upgrade.
Thanks!

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.
Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.
Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.
Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.
Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will or 
should, begin the update process.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Updating Using iTunes

Hi All,

Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
12.6.2?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Re: Updating Using iTunes

[Mike B]

Gotter done and now good to go!

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes


If you have or will upgrade to iOS 14, I think you will have to upgrade 
iTunes.

When you launch it, if you have it set to prompt for updates, you will get a 
prompt.

If you don’t, try alt+h and then arrow down until you get to check for 
updates.





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Using iTunes



is it worth updating to the latest version of iTunes?  and if so how do you 
do that.  Janet



From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:07 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes



Yes, you have to update to the latest iTunes to deal with iOS 14.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes



It must be the latest version of iTune otherwise it prompts you to upgrade.

Thanks!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes



With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.

Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.

Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.

Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.

Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will 
or should, begin the update process.



HTH,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Using iTunes



Hi All,



Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
12.6.2?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

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RE: Updating Using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

If you have or will upgrade to iOS 14, I think you will have to upgrade iTunes.
When you launch it, if you have it set to prompt for updates, you will get a 
prompt.
If you don’t, try alt+h and then arrow down until you get to check for updates.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Using iTunes

is it worth updating to the latest version of iTunes?  and if so how do you do 
that.  Janet

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

Yes, you have to update to the latest iTunes to deal with iOS 14.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

It must be the latest version of iTune otherwise it prompts you to upgrade.
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.
Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.
Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.
Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.
Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will or 
should, begin the update process.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Updating Using iTunes

Hi All,

Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
12.6.2?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
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Re: Updating Using iTunes

[Janet Bell]

is it worth updating to the latest version of iTunes?  and if so how do you do 
that.  Janet

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

Yes, you have to update to the latest iTunes to deal with iOS 14.


 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

 

It must be the latest version of iTune otherwise it prompts you to upgrade.

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

 

With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.

Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.

Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.

Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.

Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will or 
should, begin the update process.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Using iTunes

 

Hi All,

 

Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
12.6.2?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

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RE: Updating Using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

Yes, you have to update to the latest iTunes to deal with iOS 14.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

It must be the latest version of iTune otherwise it prompts you to upgrade.
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.
Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.
Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.
Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.
Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will or 
should, begin the update process.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
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Subject: Updating Using iTunes

Hi All,

Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
12.6.2?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
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RE: Updating Using iTunes

[Fazil]

It must be the latest version of iTune otherwise it prompts you to upgrade.

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating Using iTunes

 

With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.

Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.

Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.

Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.

Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will or 
should, begin the update process.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Updating Using iTunes

 

Hi All,

 

Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
12.6.2?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

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RE: Updating Using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

With  your phone plugged into the computer, launch iTunes.
Tab to the iPhone button and hit spacebar or enter.
Make sure it is showing you the correct phone by tapping through.  It should 
give you the name, memory, etc.
Tab until you get to the update button.  A fair number of tabs it is.
Hit spacebar or enter and you wll get the usual agree stuff and then it will or 
should, begin the update process.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Using iTunes

Hi All,

Would someone please tell me how to update my SE 2016 iPhone using iTunes 
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RE: Updating Router Firmware, was Re: Time To Get A New Router

[Simon A Fogarty]

My netgear would alert you through the mobile app or firmware currently on the 
device if you had to go in to it,

 My fritzbox I have to go look manually.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Updating Router Firmware, was Re: Time To Get A New Router

It probably varies between models, but in general, how does one tell a router 
to check for a firmware update? I would think it best if it did it automaticly. 
Thanks for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Bob Warren  wrote:

Security flaws in home routers are discovered all the time. These flaws can, 
for example, allow access into your home network from the Internet. Even if you 
keep the firmware updated on the router (and most people do not), eventually 
the router manufacturer no longer will support a router 4-5 years old with 
security fixes.

A good rule of thumb is to replace your home router about every 4 years (even 
if working and even if you have been doing the firmware updates). And, there 
have been advances in wi-fi capabilities in the last several years that you may 
be able to take advantage of.

Bob

> On 6/20/2020 8:00 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had a Netgear router now for about eight years, and I have no 
> complaints. When I bought it, I was considering Netgear or Asus. I'm not sure 
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
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>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Time To Get A New Router
>> 
>> My Medialink router has served me well for 8.5 years, but it quit this 
>> afternoon.
>> What routers are recommended now? I will be using it with my iphone 
>> and Victor Reader on wifi, and my computer via wired connection. 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
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RE: Updating Router Firmware, was Re: Time To Get A New Router

[chaltain]

On my Netgear, I log into the router through a browser and it let's me know if 
there's a firmware update and gives me the option to have it installed. After a 
lightning strike, I wasn't able to log onto my router, and there was a way to 
download firmware to my PC, connect my PC to the router with an ethernet cable 
and upload the new firmware to the router. I don't recall seeing a setting to 
have the firmware updated automatically.

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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Updating Router Firmware, was Re: Time To Get A New Router
> 
> It probably varies between models, but in general, how does one tell a router 
> to
> check for a firmware update? I would think it best if it did it automaticly. 
> Thanks
> for any information.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
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> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
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> On Jun 21, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Bob Warren  wrote:
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> Security flaws in home routers are discovered all the time. These flaws can, 
> for
> example, allow access into your home network from the Internet. Even if you
> keep the firmware updated on the router (and most people do not), eventually
> the router manufacturer no longer will support a router 4-5 years old with
> security fixes.
> 
> A good rule of thumb is to replace your home router about every 4 years (even 
> if
> working and even if you have been doing the firmware updates). And, there have
> been advances in wi-fi capabilities in the last several years that you may be 
> able
> to take advantage of.
> 
> Bob
> 
> > On 6/20/2020 8:00 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > complaints.
> When I bought it, I was considering Netgear or Asus. I'm not sure what's
> changed recently though.
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> >> My Medialink router has served me well for 8.5 years, but it quit this
> afternoon.
> >> What routers are recommended now? I will be using it with my iphone
> >> and Victor Reader on wifi, and my computer via wired connection.
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Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Mike B.]

Okay, I was confusing 2 Factor authentication with the 6 digit pass code 
thinking they were 1 in the same, but now I've got it all straightened out 
in my head!  Holy crap!  LOL  LOL  Thanks every one with your patience for 
this dumb-ass!  LOL  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info


Mike, that is the Passcode so that if your phone is stolen, someone cannot 
just go off and use it as their own phone.
If you set up a fingerprint, or two, then you can unlock the phone with a 
finger print and mostly will not need the passcode except when the phone is 
rebooted.

 Go into settings, Touch ID and Passcode, and you will have to enter the 
passcode, then if you want, you can either add a fingerprint or turn off the 
passcode.
I use the fingerprint and set one finger on each hand, just in case.
HTH,
Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
it just stops you from enjoying the good."



Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com




  On May 18, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Yes, it's the 6 digit code, but it's required everytime I unlock the phone 
and not after X amount of minutes.  Is there a setting I can change to stop 
this?

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Long
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info


  Mike what is going on is this.  You have your phone to require this after 
x number of minutes.  Its requiring it to unlock your phone.  Its your 6 
digit lock code right?



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:14 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info



  Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL



  It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to 
open Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor 
Authentication works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going 
to be done when accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone 
please explain how 2 Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I 
understood it would.  Thanks much.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Mike B.

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM

  Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info



  Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was 
able to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor 
Authentication enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I 
would like to verify my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't 
very intuitive either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very 
much for all your help.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM

  Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info



  Mike,

  I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe 
up, to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick 
left until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.



  It seems to be a funny focus issue.









  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
  To: viPhone 
  Subject: Updating Credit Card Info



  Hi All,



  I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to 
verify the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to 
the Apple website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in 
the correct expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and 
security code, but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able 
to help and said they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 
hours ago they were supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on 
how I can update this information?  Or, should I delete all the card info 
and start from scratch?  If I start from scratch, should I delete and 
reenter card info on the website 1st?  All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iB

Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Richard Turner]

Mike, that is the Passcode so that if your phone is stolen, someone cannot just 
go off and use it as their own phone.
If you set up a fingerprint, or two, then you can unlock the phone with a 
finger print and mostly will not need the passcode except when the phone is 
rebooted.

 Go into settings, Touch ID and Passcode, and you will have to enter the 
passcode, then if you want, you can either add a fingerprint or turn off the 
passcode.
I use the fingerprint and set one finger on each hand, just in case.
HTH,
Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 18, 2020, at 4:49 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


Yes, it's the 6 digit code, but it's required everytime I unlock the phone and 
not after X amount of minutes.  Is there a setting I can change to stop this?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long<mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info

Mike what is going on is this.  You have your phone to require this after x 
number of minutes.  Its requiring it to unlock your phone.  Its your 6 digit 
lock code right?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info

Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL

It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to open 
Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor Authentication 
works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going to be done when 
accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone please explain how 2 
Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I understood it would.  Thanks 
much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Mike B.<mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was able 
to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor Authentication 
enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I would like to verify 
my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't very intuitive 
either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very much for all your 
help.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info

Mike,
I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe up, 
to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick left 
until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.

It seems to be a funny focus issue.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info

Hi All,

I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to verify 
the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to the Apple 
website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in the correct 
expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and security code, 
but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able to help and said 
they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 hours ago they were 
supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can update this 
information?  Or, should I delete all the card info and start from scratch?  If 
I start from scratch, should I delete and reenter card info on the website 1st? 
 All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
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Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Mike B.]

Yes, it's the 6 digit code, but it's required everytime I unlock the phone 
and not after X amount of minutes.  Is there a setting I can change to stop 
this?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info


Mike what is going on is this.  You have your phone to require this after x 
number of minutes.  Its requiring it to unlock your phone.  Its your 6 digit 
lock code right?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info



Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL



It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to open 
Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor 
Authentication works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going 
to be done when accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone 
please explain how 2 Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I 
understood it would.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 

From: Mike B.

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info



Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was 
able to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor 
Authentication enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I 
would like to verify my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't 
very intuitive either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very 
much for all your help.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM

Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info



Mike,

I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe 
up, to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick 
left until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.



It seems to be a funny focus issue.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info



Hi All,



I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to 
verify the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to 
the Apple website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in 
the correct expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and 
security code, but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able 
to help and said they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 
hours ago they were supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on 
how I can update this information?  Or, should I delete all the card info 
and start from scratch?  If I start from scratch, should I delete and 
reenter card info on the website 1st?  All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

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Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Mike B.]

It only did it the 1 time, but now whenever I unlock the phone it requires 
the 6 digit code.  Is there a setting I can turn off so this isn't required?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info


Are we talking a Passcode or two factor authentication? It should not pop up 
just for opening messages.



Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
it just stops you from enjoying the good."



Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com




  On May 17, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


  
  Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL

  It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to 
open Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor 
Authentication works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going 
to be done when accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone 
please explain how 2 Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I 
understood it would.  Thanks much.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike B.
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info


  Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was 
able to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor 
Authentication enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I 
would like to verify my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't 
very intuitive either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very 
much for all your help.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM
  Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info


  Mike,

  I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe 
up, to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick 
left until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.



  It seems to be a funny focus issue.









  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
  To: viPhone 
  Subject: Updating Credit Card Info



  Hi All,



  I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to 
verify the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to 
the Apple website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in 
the correct expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and 
security code, but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able 
to help and said they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 
hours ago they were supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on 
how I can update this information?  Or, should I delete all the card info 
and start from scratch?  If I start from scratch, should I delete and 
reenter card info on the website 1st?  All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

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RE: Updating Credit Card Info

[Dennis Long]

Mike what is going on is this.  You have your phone to require this after x 
number of minutes.  Its requiring it to unlock your phone.  Its your 6 digit 
lock code right?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info

 

Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL  

 

It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to open 
Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor Authentication 
works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going to be done when 
accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone please explain how 2 
Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I understood it would.  Thanks 
much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was able 
to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor Authentication 
enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I would like to verify 
my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't very intuitive 
either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very much for all your 
help.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM

Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info

 

Mike,

I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe up, 
to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick left 
until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.

 

It seems to be a funny focus issue.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info

 

Hi All,

 

I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to verify 
the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to the Apple 
website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in the correct 
expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and security code, 
but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able to help and said 
they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 hours ago they were 
supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can update this 
information?  Or, should I delete all the card info and start from scratch?  If 
I start from scratch, should I delete and reenter card info on the website 1st? 
 All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Richard Turner]

Are we talking a Passcode or two factor authentication? It should not pop up 
just for opening messages.


Richard
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just stops you from enjoying the good."

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On May 17, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL

It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to open 
Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor Authentication 
works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going to be done when 
accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone please explain how 2 
Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I understood it would.  Thanks 
much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Mike B.<mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was able 
to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor Authentication 
enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I would like to verify 
my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't very intuitive 
either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very much for all your 
help.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info

Mike,
I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe up, 
to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick left 
until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.

It seems to be a funny focus issue.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info

Hi All,

I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to verify 
the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to the Apple 
website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in the correct 
expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and security code, 
but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able to help and said 
they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 hours ago they were 
supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can update this 
information?  Or, should I delete all the card info and start from scratch?  If 
I start from scratch, should I delete and reenter card info on the website 1st? 
 All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
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Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Mike B.]

Okay, I was able to verify my 6 digit code works, by accident!  LOL  LOL

It looks like I'll have to enter this 6 figure code whenever I want to open 
Messages, and I don't know what else!  Is this the way  2 Factor 
Authentication works?  I thought entering this 6 figure code was only going 
to be done when accessing my iPhone from another device.  Would someone 
please explain how 2 Factor works?  So far it's not working the way I 
understood it would.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Credit Card Info


Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was 
able to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor 
Authentication enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I 
would like to verify my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't 
very intuitive either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very 
much for all your help.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info


Mike,

I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe 
up, to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick 
left until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.



It seems to be a funny focus issue.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info



Hi All,



I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to 
verify the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to 
the Apple website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in 
the correct expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and 
security code, but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able 
to help and said they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 
hours ago they were supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on 
how I can update this information?  Or, should I delete all the card info 
and start from scratch?  If I start from scratch, should I delete and 
reenter card info on the website 1st?  All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
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Re: Updating Credit Card Info

[Mike B.]

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work this time.  But, my wife was 
able to put in the correct expiration date and I finally got 2 Factor 
Authentication enabled.  Now, I believe I created a 6 digit code, but I 
would like to verify my 6 digit code, since this part of the procedure isn't 
very intuitive either..., how can verify my 6 digit code?  Thank you very 
much for all your help.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Updating Credit Card Info


Mike,

I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe 
up, to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick 
left until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.



It seems to be a funny focus issue.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info



Hi All,



I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to 
verify the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to 
the Apple website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in 
the correct expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and 
security code, but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able 
to help and said they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 
hours ago they were supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on 
how I can update this information?  Or, should I delete all the card info 
and start from scratch?  If I start from scratch, should I delete and 
reenter card info on the website 1st?  All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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RE: Updating Credit Card Info

[Richard Turner]

Mike,
I know sometimes, when I run into this issue, if I do a three finger swipe up, 
to scroll below the fields I’m trying to change, then one finger flick left 
until I get back to it; sometimes, if you are lucky, it works.

It seems to be a funny focus issue.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Updating Credit Card Info

Hi All,

I'm trying to turn on 2 factor authentication, but where it wants me to verify 
the credit card info I can't update the expiration date.  I went to the Apple 
website and updated it there and it still won't allow me to put in the correct 
expiration date on the phone.  I can insert the card number and security code, 
but not the expiration date.  Apple accessibility wasn't able to help and said 
they would call back in an hour, but that was almost 2 hours ago they were 
supposed to call.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can update this 
information?  Or, should I delete all the card info and start from scratch?  If 
I start from scratch, should I delete and reenter card info on the website 1st? 
 All help is appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Carolyn]

I'm upgrading now, as I go through this list, since the comments seem mostly 
favorable. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Albert Ruel
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

I think my task on the weekend will be to upgrade and tweak this phone back to 
health. I will certainly make sure that I am updating to iOS 13.2.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Albert,

Except now you have 13.1.3 or whatever version of iOS 13 on your phone and 
today iOS 13.2 was released which really is the version you want. If you now 
update using the update on your phone it will most likely update to one of the 
13.1 versions and you then have to update right away to 13.2 again. I would 
probably delete this update and then update straight away to 13.2.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Thanks Sieghard. It is already downloaded and I haven't taken the steps others 
have outlined, in that I've not deleted it from the phone.  I opt to shut it 
down each night as my phone automatically goes to Do Not Disturb at 11 PM and 
isn't allowed to come back to life until 8 AM, so it's of little consequence 
anyway.  

I know a couple of people who had their phones update unexpectedly overnight 
because they left them turned on and plugged in, so I'm using this strategy to 
ensure that Apple waits until I'm ready to update.  From what I'm hearing on 
this and other lists it won't be long before I jump into the iOS13 pool.  I 
will do so over a rainy weekend so as to not waste too much of my weekday 
working time tweaking it back to efficiency.  

I have saved several of the tips and tricks you all have shared here for the 
day when I make that move.  The next decision is whether it'll take a bottle of 
wine or Scotch to get through the process.  

Thx, Albert

*** 

Albert A. Ruel, Parksville BC, Canada
albertr...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Albert,

Instead of completely shutting down your phone you could simply ask SIRI to 
turn off WiFi over night.
As long as you made sure the update hasn't already downloaded, this will 
effectively prevent this from happening since an iOS update will not download 
while on cellular data.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the update 
when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few hours. It 
never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I power it off at 
night when not in use.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Albert Ruel]

I think my task on the weekend will be to upgrade and tweak this phone back to 
health. I will certainly make sure that I am updating to iOS 13.2.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Albert,

Except now you have 13.1.3 or whatever version of iOS 13 on your phone and 
today iOS 13.2 was released which really is the version you want. If you now 
update using the update on your phone it will most likely update to one of the 
13.1 versions and you then have to update right away to 13.2 again. I would 
probably delete this update and then update straight away to 13.2.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Thanks Sieghard. It is already downloaded and I haven't taken the steps others 
have outlined, in that I've not deleted it from the phone.  I opt to shut it 
down each night as my phone automatically goes to Do Not Disturb at 11 PM and 
isn't allowed to come back to life until 8 AM, so it's of little consequence 
anyway.  

I know a couple of people who had their phones update unexpectedly overnight 
because they left them turned on and plugged in, so I'm using this strategy to 
ensure that Apple waits until I'm ready to update.  From what I'm hearing on 
this and other lists it won't be long before I jump into the iOS13 pool.  I 
will do so over a rainy weekend so as to not waste too much of my weekday 
working time tweaking it back to efficiency.  

I have saved several of the tips and tricks you all have shared here for the 
day when I make that move.  The next decision is whether it'll take a bottle of 
wine or Scotch to get through the process.  

Thx, Albert

*** 

Albert A. Ruel, Parksville BC, Canada
albertr...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Albert,

Instead of completely shutting down your phone you could simply ask SIRI to 
turn off WiFi over night.
As long as you made sure the update hasn't already downloaded, this will 
effectively prevent this from happening since an iOS update will not download 
while on cellular data.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the update 
when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few hours. It 
never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I power it off at 
night when not in use.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off

RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Albert,

Except now you have 13.1.3 or whatever version of iOS 13 on your phone and 
today iOS 13.2 was released which really is the version you want. If you now 
update using the update on your phone it will most likely update to one of the 
13.1 versions and you then have to update right away to 13.2 again. I would 
probably delete this update and then update straight away to 13.2.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Thanks Sieghard. It is already downloaded and I haven't taken the steps others 
have outlined, in that I've not deleted it from the phone.  I opt to shut it 
down each night as my phone automatically goes to Do Not Disturb at 11 PM and 
isn't allowed to come back to life until 8 AM, so it's of little consequence 
anyway.  

I know a couple of people who had their phones update unexpectedly overnight 
because they left them turned on and plugged in, so I'm using this strategy to 
ensure that Apple waits until I'm ready to update.  From what I'm hearing on 
this and other lists it won't be long before I jump into the iOS13 pool.  I 
will do so over a rainy weekend so as to not waste too much of my weekday 
working time tweaking it back to efficiency.  

I have saved several of the tips and tricks you all have shared here for the 
day when I make that move.  The next decision is whether it'll take a bottle of 
wine or Scotch to get through the process.  

Thx, Albert

*** 

Albert A. Ruel, Parksville BC, Canada
albertr...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Albert,

Instead of completely shutting down your phone you could simply ask SIRI to 
turn off WiFi over night.
As long as you made sure the update hasn't already downloaded, this will 
effectively prevent this from happening since an iOS update will not download 
while on cellular data.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the update 
when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few hours. It 
never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I power it off at 
night when not in use.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, Janet gross  wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Everyone, 
> I've

RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Louise Johnson]

Hi janet I also turned off the setting to update and twice it has down loaded 
the softwear. It has not happened for about two weeks now and  I am glad as I 
am a full user of voice over and let others work through the bugs. I am a 
person who waits to update good luck Louise and princess Kiara 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Louise, 
Yes this sounds about right, as this is what happened to me.  I also deleted 
the last update off of my phone.  I also didn't agree to the license as well.  
I just don't know or understand why some people who might not want the update 
on their phones, and they get it anyway.  Well, then we have some people saying 
it is impossible to have the update on your phone, if you had the auto software 
feature turned off, but sure enough, it is happening.  LOL!   

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Louise Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet buy what happened to me with my phone wanting to update. The down load 
came in and I could say no to install it. There was an option to not agree with 
their terms and I used that. I then went into general and into storage and 
deleted the down load. I hope this helps you Louise and princess Kiara 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 5:59 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Everyone,
I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to try 
and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when Apple 
sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our phones, 
but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license agreement or not? 
If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm wrong? 
Janet 

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RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Albert Ruel]

Thanks Sieghard. It is already downloaded and I haven't taken the steps others 
have outlined, in that I've not deleted it from the phone.  I opt to shut it 
down each night as my phone automatically goes to Do Not Disturb at 11 PM and 
isn't allowed to come back to life until 8 AM, so it's of little consequence 
anyway.  

I know a couple of people who had their phones update unexpectedly overnight 
because they left them turned on and plugged in, so I'm using this strategy to 
ensure that Apple waits until I'm ready to update.  From what I'm hearing on 
this and other lists it won't be long before I jump into the iOS13 pool.  I 
will do so over a rainy weekend so as to not waste too much of my weekday 
working time tweaking it back to efficiency.  

I have saved several of the tips and tricks you all have shared here for the 
day when I make that move.  The next decision is whether it'll take a bottle of 
wine or Scotch to get through the process.  

Thx, Albert

*** 

Albert A. Ruel, Parksville BC, Canada
albertr...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Albert,

Instead of completely shutting down your phone you could simply ask SIRI to 
turn off WiFi over night.
As long as you made sure the update hasn't already downloaded, this will 
effectively prevent this from happening since an iOS update will not download 
while on cellular data.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the update 
when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few hours. It 
never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I power it off at 
night when not in use.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, Janet gross  wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
> agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
> wrong? 
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Keith Bierman]

Depends on both your settings and the specific update.  If you’ve elected for 
automatic updates being prompted to accept only happens when they tweak the 
terms of service. 

But when there’s no signage in terms you get a notification hours before the 
update is installed but it could easily be missed. 

Turn off automatic updates (settings->software update-> automatic (off)) if you 
want to exert maximum control

khb...@gmail.com 
303-997-2749

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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
> agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
> wrong? 
> Janet 
> 
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RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Albert,

Instead of completely shutting down your phone you could simply ask SIRI to 
turn off WiFi over night.
As long as you made sure the update hasn't already downloaded, this will 
effectively prevent this from happening since an iOS update will not download 
while on cellular data.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
Ruel
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the update 
when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few hours. It 
never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I power it off at 
night when not in use.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi
TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
> agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
> wrong? 
> Janet 
> 
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> 
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Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

[B. J. Maynard]

hi,

when at update dialog pops up if you  click later  and it prompts you to 
enter our pass code you'll if you explore the screen  above the passcode it 
says  will update  between 4 am  and 6 am  so if you put in your passcode 
and agree to terms you'll get updated  unless you goto 
settings|general|softwear updates and  turn off automatic updates.That 
might be your  problum thinking your phone auto updates on it's own.  If you 
just  click disagree on terms you'll be fine. or turn off auto updates after 
clicking later.  I've used iPhones sincethe 4S and have never had it auto 
update  without my  permission in some way.  Hope this helps some of you 
that think your phone auto updates without your permission.


B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Albert Ruel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.


Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the 
update when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few 
hours. It never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I 
power it off at night when not in use.


Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 
numerous times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the 
downloaded iOS, I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my 
personal ID after which I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I 
always disagree in the bottom left corner of the screen and the update is 
not installed. I then immediately go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, 
iOS 13.x and double tap on the downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, 
and remove it from my device. A day or two later, the download happens again 
and I repeat the cycle.


I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially 
released and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party 
software keyboards.


Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn,
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option 
to install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it 
works on my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto 
software option, if the update still downloads.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jennie Facer

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to 
turn this setting off in settings, general and software updates.


Hope this helps,

Jenn

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On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  
wrote:


?Hi Everyone,
I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to 
our phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
wrong?

Janet

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Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Robin]

My Thoughts:
I  think   iOS UpDates are probably PreDownLoaded, but NOT installed
Note:
I'm unsure about this
At 05:59 PM 10/27/2019, you wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm 
going to try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My 
question is: when Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update 
automatically download to our phones, but we have the option to 
install by agreeing to the license agreement or not? If someone 
would please chime in, and correct me if I'm wrong?

Janet

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Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Albert Ruel]

Allen and Janet, I too have not updated to iOS 13. I avoid the automated 
install by powering off my cell phone every evening. It will only do the update 
when the phone is plugged in, powered up and left alone for a few hours. It 
never tries to update during the day while I use the phone so I power it off at 
night when not in use.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
> agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
> wrong? 
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
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Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Holly]

Alan and Janet:

I still have not gotten the new download.  Maybe I am lucky.

In software, I get the option to download and install, but not a remind me 
later one.  Maybe the phone has to be connected to power to get this option.


I went into 'storage' and the download is not there yet.

Alan, I am with you and am not going to update until they get the voice over 
bugs resolved. 


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RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Alan Lemly]

Janet,

I also have Settings, General, Software Update, Automatic Updates turned off 
but as you said, iOS 13.x updates have still downloaded to my iPhone 8 numerous 
times. When I get a popup asking me if I'd like to install the downloaded iOS, 
I always select later and then I'm prompted to enter my personal ID after which 
I'm prompted to agree to terms and conditions. I always disagree in the bottom 
left corner of the screen and the update is not installed. I then immediately 
go to Settings, General iPhone Storage, iOS 13.x and double tap on the 
downloaded iOS in the list, select delete, and remove it from my device. A day 
or two later, the download happens again and I repeat the cycle.

I'm not interested in leaving iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
and they've hopefully fixed the bug with Voiceover and third party software 
keyboards.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
> agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
> wrong? 
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
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RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is there so updates are not installed automatically as the setting implies.
Basically the behaviour with automatic updates turned off is the same as before 
this option was introduced in iOS 12 and that is that the update downloads, but 
it won't update unless you go into Settings > General > Software Update and tap 
install, then enter your PIN and agree to the terms and conditions.
You have to remember that Apple still tried to get as many users onto the 
newest version of iOS as possible, but from what I read online most people have 
little trouble to not update if they turn automatic updates off and delete the 
update from their phone in case has already downloaded. I guess eventually it 
may redownload, but if you don't want to take any chances for that to happen 
you could always turn off WiFi over night when many people plug  in their 
phones since an iOS update at this point will definitely not download over 
cellular ddata.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating iOS Question Please.

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
> agreement or not? If someone would please chime in, and correct me if I'm 
> wrong? 
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
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[janet gross]

HI Jenn, 
Thank you for this, as I do and have always had auto download turned off.  I 
think rather this feature is turned on or off, the download will still 
download, but if we don't want the update on our phones, we have the option to 
install by accepting the license agreement or not.  This is the way it works on 
my phone.  Although, I'm just not for sure why we have the auto software 
option, if the update still downloads.  
Janet 

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Jennie Facer
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating iOS Question Please.

Hi Janet,

If you have automatic updates turned on, it will download to your phon e 
whether you want it or not. The best way to keep it from downloading is to turn 
this setting off in settings, general and software updates.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:59 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> I've been asking this exact same question for a long time, so I'm going to 
> try and ask again, as I never seem to get an answer.  My question is: when 
> Apple sends out an update, doesn't the update automatically download to our 
> phones, but we have the option to install by agreeing to the license 
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> Janet 
> 
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RE: Updating payment method for Apple ID

[M. Taylor]

Hello Wendy,

Not to worry.  This is a well-known software glitch that Apple says it will 
resolve.

In the meantime, you will have to update your payment method, at least once, 
via the web portal.  Once done, then you should be able to update your card 
info via your local Apple device.

So, go to:  
http://appleid.apple.com and sign into your account via your preferred web 
browser.

Update your info, there, and you should be good to go.

The next time you open the Settings / Apple ID / Payment method on your Apple 
device, you will see that you can now edit your payment method, again, should 
you wish.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wendy Alling
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating payment method for Apple ID

This is what I did, several times, but it would not allow me to edit my card. 
This card also has Apple Pay attached with it. Don’t know if that has anything 
to do with it or not, but it wouldn’t allow me to change anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wendy,
> 
> Open Settings on your device and choose the Apple ID option, which also 
> includes your name. Choose Payment & Shipping, and then choose Edit.
> 
> best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I’ve spent half the morning trying to figure out how to update my 
>> payment card for my Apple ID. Any instructions would be helpful. Thank you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Updating payment method for Apple ID

[Wendy Alling]

This is what I did, several times, but it would not allow me to edit my card. 
This card also has Apple Pay attached with it. Don’t know if that has anything 
to do with it or not, but it wouldn’t allow me to change anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wendy,
> 
> Open Settings on your device and choose the Apple ID option, which also 
> includes your name. Choose Payment & Shipping, and then choose Edit.
> 
> best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I’ve spent half the morning trying to figure out how to update my 
>> payment card for my Apple ID. Any instructions would be helpful. Thank you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Updating payment method for Apple ID

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Wendy,

Open Settings on your device and choose the Apple ID option, which also 
includes your name. Choose Payment & Shipping, and then choose Edit.

best,
Anna




> On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
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> 
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Re: updating

[Richard Turner]

Has the app settled down to where you can use it now?
I'm wondering if without a sign in account, if you can no longer add a favorite?
I doubt that, but since I have an account, I cannot test this.


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On Aug 8, 2019, at 6:02 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
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Richard,
I remember now, that what you wrote, is how to remove a 
favorite. I wonder why, on the other hand, that I can't add one!
I thought I'd done the double tap and hold to reorder things 
but will try again, that is if it comes up once I take the phone off lock and 
try to resume the stream that was playing before I stopped it.

Deidre
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button.
To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.
You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.
Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.
You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.

Richard

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On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Dave
Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?



From: Deidre Muccio<mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: updating

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.
Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
mailto:du...@weisenborn.us>> wrote:
The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Richard,

I remember now, that what you wrote, is how to remove a 
favorite. I wonder why, on the other hand, that I can't add one! 

I thought I'd done the double tap and hold to reorder things 
but will try again, that is if it comes up once I take the phone off lock and 
try to resume the stream that was playing before I stopped it.

 

Deidre

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

 

For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button. 

To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.

You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.

Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

 

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.

You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.

 

Richard 

 

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indistinguishable from magic." 

(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)

www.turner42.com

 





On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

Dave

Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

 

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?

 

 

 

From: Deidre <mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>  Muccio 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating

 

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre 

 


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Re: updating

[Richard Turner]

For quite a while now, the way to remove a favorite is to open it and double 
tap on the unfavorite button, or deselecting the favorite button.
To rearrange favorites is not documented, but I found a slightly tedious way to 
do it.
You double tap and hold on a favorite, and slide up or down in your list.
Given the size of my SE, you cannot move stations a very long way at once; but 
with some trial and error, I got things rearranged.

I'm sorry TuneIn is being so difficult.
You may want to try the reboot with holding the power and home buttons for 
about 6 or 8 seconds to do the forced reboot.


Richard

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indistinguishable from magic."
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On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:00 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Dave
Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?



From: Deidre Muccio<mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: updating

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.
Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
mailto:du...@weisenborn.us>> wrote:
The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Dave

Ah, I overlooked that, though it did cross my mind at one point. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

 

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?

 

 

 

From: Deidre <mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>  Muccio 

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: updating

 

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre 

 


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  wrote:

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Re: updating

[Dave]

works fine for me too.

On all 3 of my phones. iphone 8, 6s, and iPhone 6.

Dave.


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Subject: Re: updating

if you setup a login for TuneIn, you can delete the app and reinstall it and 
sign in again and it will remember your favorites. 
TuneIn worked fine for me with iOS 12.4.



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  On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:


   I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software 
update. But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.


  Deidre 


  On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
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The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
    Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone 
is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Re: updating

[Dave]

after updating your apps. Did you do an iCloud back-up?



From: Deidre Muccio 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: updating

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.


Deidre 


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  The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

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  Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
  Subject: RE: updating

  I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone 
is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

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Re: updating

[Dave]

It will take time, for the phone to settle. So keep it plugged in, for a few 
hours.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 1:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

The update was actually very quick. But I still have no tune in radio. It 
won’t load up. That’s a disappointment.


Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:02 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   Ok, Dave. I hear you.
   I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see 
the result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I 
updated. It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.


Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating


One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as
you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, 
and
install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. 
So

don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it
plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do
that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to
reboot their phones.

Dave.




-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for
the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow 
morning.From

the PC!

Deidre



On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:

If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should
have no problems.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current
iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big
jump.

Deidre



On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
wrote:

Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but
over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick
with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want
to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at 
this

point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works
with older versions of iOS will continue to work?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more
for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12
was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs,
improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new
features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this
and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop
support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit
architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth
generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer
work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been
upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend
you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:

1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your
apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your
phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings >
General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the 
installation
finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night 
since

there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major
update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and
you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is
snappier than before.

Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices
in iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security
fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since
developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of ope

Re: updating

[Anthony Vece]

Deidre;

Tried downloading it again from the App Store

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
> 
> The update was actually very quick. But I still have no tune in radio. It 
> won’t load up. That’s a disappointment.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:02 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>   Ok, Dave. I hear you.
>>   I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
>> still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see 
>> the result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I 
>> updated. It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Dave
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: updating
>> 
>> 
>> One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as 
>> you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, and 
>> install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. So 
>> don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it 
>> plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do 
>> that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to 
>> reboot their phones.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: updating
>> 
>> OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
>> the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
>> the PC!
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
>>> have no problems.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: updating
>>> 
>>> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
>>> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
>>> jump.
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
>>>> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>>>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
>>>> with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
>>>> to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
>>>> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
>>>> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: updating
>>>> 
>>>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
>>>> for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
>>>> was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
>>>> improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
>>>> features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
>>>> and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>>>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>>>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>>>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>>>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>>>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
>>>> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
>>>> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
>>>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I h

Re: updating

[Richard Turner]

if you setup a login for TuneIn, you can delete the app and reinstall it and 
sign in again and it will remember your favorites.
TuneIn worked fine for me with iOS 12.4.


Richard

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indistinguishable from magic."
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On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:

 I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
mailto:du...@weisenborn.us>> wrote:

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
finished.

- Original Message -
From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
Subject: RE: updating

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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Re: updating

[Deidre Muccio]

I updated all the apps that needed updating before I did the software update. 
But who knows I’ll troubleshoot a little see if I can get it going.

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
> wrote:
> 
> The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is 
> finished.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: 08/07/2019 04:57 PM
> Subject: RE: updating
> 
> I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone 
> is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is 
> what happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.
> 
> Deidre
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Re: RE: updating

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

The phone definitely goes silent, so don't push buttons until the update is finished.- Original Message -From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone To: viphone@googlegroups.comDate: 08/07/2019 04:57 PMSubject: RE: updatingI started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.	Deidre-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001e01d54d7b%24eb3fa2b0%24c1bee810%24%40net.



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Re: updating

[Deidre Muccio]

The update was actually very quick. But I still have no tune in radio. It won’t 
load up. That’s a disappointment.

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:02 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
>Ok, Dave. I hear you.
>I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
> still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see 
> the result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I 
> updated. It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.
> 
> Deidre
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
> 
> 
> One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as 
> you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, and 
> install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. So 
> don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it 
> plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do 
> that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to 
> reboot their phones.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
> 
> OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
> the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
> the PC!
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
>> have no problems.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: updating
>> 
>> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
>> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
>> jump.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
>>> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
>>> with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
>>> to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
>>> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
>>> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: updating
>>> 
>>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
>>> for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
>>> was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
>>> improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
>>> features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
>>> and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
>>> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
>>> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
>>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
>>> you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>>> 
>>> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
>>> apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
>>> phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > 
>>> General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation 
>>> finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since 
>>> there is a lot of st

RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

Ok, Dave. I hear you.
I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see the 
result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I updated. 
It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating


One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as 
you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, and 
install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. So 
don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it 
plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do 
that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to 
reboot their phones.

Dave.




-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
the PC!

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
> have no problems.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
>
> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
> jump.
>
> Deidre
>
>
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
>> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
>> with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
>> to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
>> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
>> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: updating
>>
>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
>> for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
>> was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
>> improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
>> features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
>> and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
>> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
>> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
>> you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>>
>> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
>> apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
>> phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > 
>> General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation 
>> finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since 
>> there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major 
>> update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and 
>> you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is 
>> snappier than before.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: updating
>>
>> Hello Deidre,
>>
>> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older de

Re: updating

[Chris Chaffin]

Yes, I believe an Apple logo appears on your phone screen while it is actually 
doing the update.

Chris


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:57 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone 
> is not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is 
> what happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.
> 
>Deidre
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RE: updating

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

I started the update and then dropped the phone. It appears as if the phone is 
not powered up even though it is very warm. I can't remember if this is what 
happens when updating - that the phone goes silent.

Deidre

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Re: updating

[Dave]

One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as 
you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, and 
install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. So 
don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it 
plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do 
that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to 
reboot their phones.


Dave.




-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
the PC!


Deidre



On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:

If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
have no problems.


Dave.


-Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
jump.


Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
wrote:


Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
with older versions of iOS will continue to work?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:


1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > 
General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation 
finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since 
there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major 
update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and 
you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is 
snappier than before.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices 
in iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security 
fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since 
developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems 
first.


Best,
Anna




On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hey all
I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've
got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said
the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his
phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this 
point.

  Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the
phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice
already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the
newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I
hadn't deleted my older version some ti

Re: updating

[Kay Malmquist]

Disregard my last message.  I followed the thread back and found his 
message.

,Daily memo;
Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
pee on it and walk  away!!

Kay malmquist
Skype name:  kayleebuttercup
Email: kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Deidre Muccio" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: updating


OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
the PC!

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
> have no problems.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
>
> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
> jump.
>
> Deidre
>
>
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
>> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
>> with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
>> to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
>> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
>> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: updating
>>
>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
>> for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
>> was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
>> improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
>> features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
>> and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
>> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
>> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
>> you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>>
>> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
>> apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
>> phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > 
>> General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation 
>> finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since 
>> there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major 
>> update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and 
>> you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is 
>> snappier than before.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: updating
>>
>> Hello Deidre,
>>
>> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices 
>> in iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security 
>> fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since 
>> developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems 
>> first.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all
>>> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've
>>> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said
>>> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his
>>> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were 

Re: updating

[Kay Malmquist]

Which instructions was that?  I have been following this thread and didn't 
think I missed anything.
,Daily memo;
Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
pee on it and walk  away!!

Kay malmquist
Skype name:  kayleebuttercup
Email: kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: updating


If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should have
no problems.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current
iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big
jump.

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
> wrote:
>
> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but
> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick with
> iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want to
> lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this
> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works
> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: updating
>
> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for
> newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was
> very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving
> performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features.
> During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this and showed
> how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just
> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop
> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit
> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth
> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer
> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been
> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend
> you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>
> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your
> apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your
> phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > General
>  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation finishes
> and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since there is
> a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major update. Then
> in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and you should be
> fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is snappier than
> before.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: updating
>
> Hello Deidre,
>
> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in
> iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security
> fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since
> developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems
> first.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hey all
>> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've
>> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said
>> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his
>> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
>> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this
>> point.
>>Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
>> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the
>> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice
>> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
>> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the
>> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I
>> hadn't deleted my older version some tim

Re: updating

[Deidre Muccio]

OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for the 
encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From the PC!

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should have 
> no problems.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
> 
> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big jump.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but over 
>> all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick with 
>> iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want to lose, 
>> but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this point and 
>> who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works with older 
>> versions of iOS will continue to work?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: updating
>> 
>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for 
>> newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was 
>> very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving 
>> performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features. 
>> During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this and showed how 
>> much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer work 
>> on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been upgraded at 
>> least to iOS 11.
>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend you 
>> update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>> 
>> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your apps 
>> are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your phone off, 
>> wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > General  > Software 
>> Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation finishes and the phone 
>> has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since there is a lot of stuff 
>> going on behind the scenes after such a major update. Then in the morning I 
>> would do another reboot of your phone and you should be fine and most likely 
>> you will notice your old phone is snappier than before.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: updating
>> 
>> Hello Deidre,
>> 
>> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in 
>> iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes 
>> as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers 
>> tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all
>>> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've
>>> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said
>>> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his
>>> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
>>> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
>>>   Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
>>> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the
>>> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice
>>> already. I get bumped out of the post I am re

Re: updating

[Dave]

If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should have 
no problems.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Deidre Muccio

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating

My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
jump.


Deidre


On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  
wrote:


Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick with 
iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want to 
lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
with older versions of iOS will continue to work?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for 
newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was 
very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving 
performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features. 
During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this and showed 
how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:


1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > General 
 > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation finishes 
and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since there is 
a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major update. Then 
in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and you should be 
fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is snappier than 
before.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner

Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in 
iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security 
fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since 
developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems 
first.


Best,
Anna




On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hey all
I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've
got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said
the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his
phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this 
point.

   Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the
phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice
already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the
newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I
hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine
without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately,
or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a
screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
   Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
it?

Deidre

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Re: updating

[Deidre Muccio]

My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current iOS. 
I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big jump.

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but over 
> all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4. 
> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick with 
> iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want to lose, 
> but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this point and 
> who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works with older 
> versions of iOS will continue to work? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: updating
> 
> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for 
> newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was very 
> much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving performance 
> and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features. During the 
> keynote they actually specifically mentioned this and showed how much better 
> iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer work 
> on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been upgraded at 
> least to iOS 11.
> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend you 
> update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
> 
> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your apps 
> are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your phone off, 
> wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > General > Software 
> Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation finishes and the phone 
> has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since there is a lot of stuff 
> going on behind the scenes after such a major update. Then in the morning I 
> would do another reboot of your phone and you should be fine and most likely 
> you will notice your old phone is snappier than before.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: updating
> 
> Hello Deidre,
> 
> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in 
> iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes 
> as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers 
> tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all
>> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've 
>> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said 
>> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his 
>> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
>> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
>>Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App 
>> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the 
>> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice 
>> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
>> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the 
>> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I 
>> hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine 
>> without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately, 
>> or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a 
>> screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
>>Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve 
>> it?
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
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RE: updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The recommendation to update referred to updating from iOS 10 to iOS 12.4 not 
upgrading to new hardware.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

Interestingly, my Verizon sales person told me that she had no plans for 
obtaining any of the X mottles, but would wait and see what the next batch of 
phones that Apple puts out are like.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:58 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating


I agree. It would be really better for you to update.

Also, the iPhone 6, won't be getting iOS 13, when it becomes available.

I have an iPhone 8, with an iPhone 6 as a back-up phone, and my iPhone 6, runs 
absolutely fine, and much faster, on the latest iOS.

I don't know, why your friend told you, what they did. But i can only say, you 
were given bad information.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 4:55 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in iOS 
12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes as 
well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers tend 
to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've 
> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said 
> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his 
> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. 
> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
> Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App 
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the 
> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice 
> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. 
> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the 
> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I 
> hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine 
> without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately, 
> or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a 
> screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve 
> it?
>
> Deidre
>
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RE: updating

[Don Moore]

Interestingly, my Verizon sales person told me that she had no plans for 
obtaining any of the X mottles, but would wait and see what the next batch of 
phones that Apple puts out are like.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:58 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating


I agree. It would be really better for you to update.

Also, the iPhone 6, won't be getting iOS 13, when it becomes available.

I have an iPhone 8, with an iPhone 6 as a back-up phone, and my iPhone 6, 
runs absolutely fine, and much faster, on the latest iOS.

I don't know, why your friend told you, what they did. But i can only say, 
you were given bad information.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 4:55 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in 
iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes 
as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers 
tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've got
> plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said the more
> recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his phone, and he
> proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. I fear the jump
> from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
> Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the phone
> again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice already. I get
> bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. I assume it is
> because some notification is coming in or perhaps the newsfeed is being
> refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I hadn't deleted my older
> version some time ago. It worked just fine without all the bumping me back
> to the top of the page. Unfortunately, or unfortunately, the Facebook App 
> is
> so much easier to use with a screen reader than accessing it through their
> main site.
> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
> it?
>
> Deidre
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Re: updating

[Dave]

I agree. It would be really better for you to update.

Also, the iPhone 6, won't be getting iOS 13, when it becomes available.

I have an iPhone 8, with an iPhone 6 as a back-up phone, and my iPhone 6, 
runs absolutely fine, and much faster, on the latest iOS.


I don't know, why your friend told you, what they did. But i can only say, 
you were given bad information.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Anna Dresner

Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 4:55 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in 
iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes 
as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers 
tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.


Best,
Anna




On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Hey all
I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've got
plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said the more
recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his phone, and he
proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. I fear the jump
from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the phone
again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice already. I get
bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. I assume it is
because some notification is coming in or perhaps the newsfeed is being
refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I hadn't deleted my older
version some time ago. It worked just fine without all the bumping me back
to the top of the page. Unfortunately, or unfortunately, the Facebook App 
is

so much easier to use with a screen reader than accessing it through their
main site.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
it?

Deidre

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RE: updating

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but over 
all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4. 
I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick with iOS 
10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want to lose, but 
even then, there's probably an alternative available at this point and who's to 
say how much longer an app or service that only works with older versions of 
iOS will continue to work? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for 
newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was very 
much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving performance 
and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features. During the keynote 
they actually specifically mentioned this and showed how much better iOS 12 ran 
on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop support 
for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit architecture. This 
means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth generation and earlier. If 
you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer work on any of those devices or on 
newer devices which haven't been upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend you 
update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:

1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your apps 
are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your phone off, 
wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > General > Software 
Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation finishes and the phone 
has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since there is a lot of stuff 
going on behind the scenes after such a major update. Then in the morning I 
would do another reboot of your phone and you should be fine and most likely 
you will notice your old phone is snappier than before.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in iOS 
12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes as 
well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers tend 
to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




 On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
> 
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've 
> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said 
> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his 
> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
>   Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App 
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the 
> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice 
> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the 
> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I 
> hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine 
> without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately, 
> or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a 
> screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
>   Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve 
> it?
> 
> Deidre
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RE: updating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more for 
newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 was very 
much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, improving performance 
and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new features. During the keynote 
they actually specifically mentioned this and showed how much better iOS 12 ran 
on an iPhone 6.
Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop support 
for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit architecture. This 
means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth generation and earlier. If 
you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer work on any of those devices or on 
newer devices which haven't been upgraded at least to iOS 11.
The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend you 
update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:

1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your apps 
are updated
2. Close all apps from the app switcher
3. Turn your phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on
4. Go to Settings > General > Software Update and install iOS 12.4
5. After the installation finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged 
in over night since there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after 
such a major update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your 
phone and you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is 
snappier than before.

Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: updating

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in iOS 
12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes as 
well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers tend 
to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




 On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
> 
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've 
> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said 
> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his 
> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. 
> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point.
>   Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App 
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the 
> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice 
> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. 
> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the 
> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I 
> hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine 
> without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately, 
> or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a 
> screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
>   Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve 
> it?
> 
> Deidre
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Re: updating

[Anna Dresner]

Hello Deidre,

Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices in iOS 
12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security fixes as 
well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since developers tend 
to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems first.

Best,
Anna




> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey all
> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've got
> plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said the more
> recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his phone, and he
> proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones. I fear the jump
> from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this point. 
>   Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the phone
> again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice already. I get
> bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why. I assume it is
> because some notification is coming in or perhaps the newsfeed is being
> refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I hadn't deleted my older
> version some time ago. It worked just fine without all the bumping me back
> to the top of the page. Unfortunately, or unfortunately, the Facebook App is
> so much easier to use with a screen reader than accessing it through their
> main site.
>   Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
> it?
> 
> Deidre
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Re: updating credit card question

[Holly]

Arleen:

Might be time to call Apple accessibility help line.

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Re: updating credit card question

[Arlene]

There's more options, Mark, for more than we've seen before, for example 
changing your password, changing your security questions  and other options 
but nothing directly about updating the card. In this is where we're going 
in circles well, not finding the option to edit and update the card. You 
could manage your account with this area, but nothingn about updating the 
card, and I would hate to go into any of these such as the shipping 
information to have other things getting tangled as far as straightening 
this out. I really appreciate knowing about this page for other details 
having to do with the account. Maybe you could tell me what we could go into 
updating the card if there's anything to do that. thank you so much for this 
web address.

Arlene
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From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: updating credit card question


Hello Arlene,

Okay, I know exactly what you are experiencing.

So, recently Apple updated its terms of service.  For whatever reason, for 
some accounts, this results in a kind of payment management glitch for some 
users.


In instances where your current credit card data is dimmed-out, on the iOS 
device, it is necessary to sign into your account via a web browser in order 
to update your payment info.  This is the only way, according to the Apple 
senior account advisors with whom I've discussed this matter.


The good news is that you wil only have to do this once; after which you can 
update your credit card info, as usual, on your various Apple devices.


So, to get started, go to:

http://appleid.com.

After signing into your account, go to Manage Payments.

From there, you can update your credit card info.  After doing this, you 
will find that you can now update and change your payment info on your iOS 
device, just as you would expect.


Good Luck,

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene

Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: updating credit card question

I copied instructions from here on the list about updating a crdit card. We 
started to purchase an app, and what complicated it was that we should have 
updated the card first. We're going in circles in attempting to update  the 
3 digit code which stays in there. The other thing that needs changing is 
the experation date, and it's dimmed where you should be able to change it. 
So it's as if we're going in circles. Thanks for help with this.


Arlene,
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RE: updating credit card question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Arlene,

Okay, I know exactly what you are experiencing.  

So, recently Apple updated its terms of service.  For whatever reason, for some 
accounts, this results in a kind of payment management glitch for some users.  

In instances where your current credit card data is dimmed-out, on the iOS 
device, it is necessary to sign into your account via a web browser in order to 
update your payment info.  This is the only way, according to the Apple senior 
account advisors with whom I've discussed this matter.  

The good news is that you wil only have to do this once; after which you can 
update your credit card info, as usual, on your various Apple devices.  

So, to get started, go to:  

http://appleid.com.

After signing into your account, go to Manage Payments.

>From there, you can update your credit card info.  After doing this, you will 
>find that you can now update and change your payment info on your iOS device, 
>just as you would expect.

Good Luck,

Mark

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Arlene
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Subject: updating credit card question

I copied instructions from here on the list about updating a crdit card. We 
started to purchase an app, and what complicated it was that we should have 
updated the card first. We're going in circles in attempting to update  the  3 
digit code which stays in there. The other thing that needs changing is the 
experation date, and it's dimmed where you should be able to change it. So it's 
as if we're going in circles. Thanks for help with this.
 
Arlene,
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RE: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the card number itself has not changed, i.e. if it is only a new expiry date 
then this should update automatically. If not you will have to delete the card 
and add it again. Here is part of an Apple support article, the link is below:

While you can't change your card number or expiration date, it should update 
automatically when you get a new card. If your issuer doesn't support updates, 
you might need to remove the card, then add it again.

Manage the cards that you use with Apple 
Pay<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT205583>

Regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
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Subject: Re: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

Hi Bill, try this it may not work but anything is worth a try.  go into apple 
id then double tap on payment and shipping you will then see your card number 
if you double tap this you may be able to swipe right and change the expirey 
date and sec number   hth Janet

From: Bill Outman
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

This came up because I had a card eaten by an ATM at my bank about a week ago 
and had to have it replaced.  I kept the account number to minimize having to 
make changes, but the expiration date and security code changed.

Bill Outman



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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

Hi,

I don't think you need to add a card just to update it. My guess is that when 
it needs a new expiration date, you'll get prompted to enter it.

Best,
Anna




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Good morning.

I need to update my check card in the Apple Wallet program on my iPhone.  I see 
the add card button, is this where I go merely to update a card, just needs a 
new expiration date and security code.

When I do this will it apply to the app store as well?

Bill Outman


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Re: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

[Janet Bell]

Hi Bill, try this it may not work but anything is worth a try.  go into apple 
id then double tap on payment and shipping you will then see your card number 
if you double tap this you may be able to swipe right and change the expirey 
date and sec number   hth Janet

From: Bill Outman 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 4:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

This came up because I had a card eaten by an ATM at my bank about a week ago 
and had to have it replaced.  I kept the account number to minimize having to 
make changes, but the expiration date and security code changed.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 10:25 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

 

Hi,

 

I don't think you need to add a card just to update it. My guess is that when 
it needs a new expiration date, you'll get prompted to enter it.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





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Good morning.  

 

I need to update my check card in the Apple Wallet program on my iPhone.  I see 
the add card button, is this where I go merely to update a card, just needs a 
new expiration date and security code.  

 

When I do this will it apply to the app store as well?  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

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RE: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

[Bill Outman]

This came up because I had a card eaten by an ATM at my bank about a week ago 
and had to have it replaced.  I kept the account number to minimize having to 
make changes, but the expiration date and security code changed.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 10:25 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

 

Hi,

 

I don't think you need to add a card just to update it. My guess is that when 
it needs a new expiration date, you'll get prompted to enter it.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 





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Good morning.  

 

I need to update my check card in the Apple Wallet program on my iPhone.  I see 
the add card button, is this where I go merely to update a card, just needs a 
new expiration date and security code.  

 

When I do this will it apply to the app store as well?  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

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Re: Updating check card in Apple Wallet

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Hi,

I don't think you need to add a card just to update it. My guess is that when 
it needs a new expiration date, you'll get prompted to enter it.

Best,
Anna




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Re: updating apps

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I found the button after i sent the email.

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Re: updating apps

[Richard Turner]

The app store agreement now has the agree button near the top instead of at the 
bottom. You need to find the agree button and double tap it and then do that 
again to confirm ... I hope that helps.
Richard



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Hi how do you guys update apps now in ios12? I cannot seem to get past the 
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RE: updating my payment method on my iCloud storage on my iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Go to the first item in Settings where it says your name followed by "Apple Id, 
iCloud, iTunes and App Store".
Double tap on Payment and Shipping
Double tap your current payment method, it will most likely say Mastercard, a 
bunch of bullets and the last 4 digits of your card.
You will most likely be asked for your iPhone unlock PIN, after you enter it 
you can edit your first name, last name, credit card number, expiry date, CVV, 
phone number and billing address.
If all you have to do is put in a different card number just tap on the card 
number field and enter your new card number. I don't think you have to specify 
whether it's a Visa or Mastercard, it will recognize this automatically.
Then enter the expiry date and CV code of your new card, once you are done 
double tap on "Save' at the top left corner and it's done.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: updating my payment method on my iCloud storage on my iPhone

Hi I had to get A new credit card.

So I have to replace my one that was paying for my i Cloud storage on my iPhone.

So how do I once I tap on my name and get to where it says the name of the card 
that I am currently using.

How then do I remove that card and replace it with the new one?

The card that I am currently using is A master card.

And the new card is A visa so I need to change that as well.

So how do you make those changes on the phone or is it easier to do it on the 
computer?

If it is easier to do it on the computer then where do you go and make thos 
same changes?

Nothing else has changed just my payment method.

So look for assistance with this.



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RE: updating an iPad 4

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Most iPads except iPad 2 and original can be updated, maybe also not some of 
the first iPad Minis. I would do a Reset Network Settings and try again.
If you want to know which one exactly you have, it is easiest to find the 
iPad’s “A number”.
This is a code with starts with an A and is followed by 4 numbers and all Apple 
devices have it.
You can ask a sighted person to look this up on the back of the device or you 
can go to Settings > General > About, swipe down to “Model” which in the case 
of the iPad starts with a “M”, then double tap on this and it turns into the A 
Number. This is actually something I didn’t know so thanks for asking this and 
making me look this up on Google where I found this information in the article.
This also works on the iPhone, the default model number displayed starts with a 
“N”, but if you ever want to download an IPSW file and make sure you get the 
correct one for your model of phone you will need this A number.

For your information, here is the information from an article I found when I 
Googled “How to identify my iPad’s model number”

There have been a total of 15 iPad models:
iPad, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4 and iPad 9.7in (2017)
iPad Air and iPad Air 2
iPad mini, iPad mini 2 with Retina display, iPad mini 3 and iPad mini 4
iPad Pro 12.9in (2015), iPad Pro 9.7in (2016), iPad Pro 10.5in (2017) and iPad 
Pro 12.9in (2017)

In the same article is a table with all the “A numbers” so once you ask 
somebody for that number or looked it up in Settings > General > About you can 
now go to this article and look it up or just Google it directly and chances 
are you find what iPad you have eaisily enough.
Click on this to go to the 
article.

Just in case you do have an iPad 4, here is the information including the model 
numbers:
iPad 4 (aka iPad fourth generation)
A1458 (Wi-Fi)
A1459 or A1460 (Wi-Fi + cellular)
Mid-size screen (9.7 inches). Lightning port at the bottom.
Available in black or white.
Retina display.
Introduced November 2012.

Take care,
Sieghard

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Subject: updating an iPad 4

Hi All,
I was wondering if I will be able to update my iPad 4 to the IOS 11? Also is 
there a way to check and see what my iPad is for sure. Is it an iPad 4 or 
something else? When I go into the check for updates it says it is in progress. 
It has been saying that for a a couple weeks now. I have rebooted the Ipad with 
no change. Any assistance on these questions will be appreciated.
Mr. Ed
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Re: Updating To iOS 10.31

[rajmund]

hi, if it's backed up, just hit the install button.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 06/04/17 11:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

Using an SE iPhone with iOS 9.33, & have never done an update.  I'm
going to update to 10.31, & is there anything I should do before double
tapping the install button?  Should I turn off Bluetooth, or anything
like that, or just go ahead & install.  All apps are closed, & I have
backed up the phone to both my computer & iTunes.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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RE: Updating To iOS 10.31

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mike,

When you do a major update like this I would definitely say just making sure 
you have an update and then to install can be risky.
There is not a lot you have to do, but the two things which may prevent any 
potential issues are to make sure you close all apps from the app switcher and 
as a minimum I would reboot the phone.
With a major update I usually go to Settings > General > Reset and tap on Reset 
Network Settings. This will also result in a reboot, but keep in mind that it 
will disconnect you from your WiFi so make sure you have your password handy. 
If you named your phone, for example, "Mike's iPhone SE", a Reset Network 
Settings will also get rid of that and your iPhone will simply be called 
"iPhone". However, it is easy to fix this in Settings > General > About, the 
first item is your phone's name and you can simply double tap on that and call 
it anything you like.
This message may get a few replies from people who say that Apple does not say 
you have to do this and doing this does absolutely nothing. Yes, Apple does not 
say you have to do this, but I have had iOS devices for almost 8 years and I 
don't recall ever having a major problem with an update. I have seen cases 
where problems did occur and in some of these cases doing a Reset Network 
Settings afterwards fixed the problem. Therefore, since it takes me all of a 
minute or two to do this and reconnect to my WiFi, I do it. Of course when I 
upgrade from one major iOS version to another I also usually do this via iTunes 
just because I get more feedback during the update and think in some situations 
an update via iTunes can be less problematic than an over-the-air update. Like 
I said, in addition to having a backup at least close all apps from the app 
switcher and reboot the phone.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 3:01 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Updating To iOS 10.31

Hi All,

Using an SE iPhone with iOS 9.33, & have never done an update.  I'm going to 
update to 10.31, & is there anything I should do before double tapping the 
install button?  Should I turn off Bluetooth, or anything like that, or just go 
ahead & install.  All apps are closed, & I have backed up the phone to both my 
computer & iTunes.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Updating To iOS 10.31

[Marie]

I always plug into AC before starting an upgrade. So far I have done multiple 
upgrades without problems.
Marie


From: Mike B. 
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:00 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Updating To iOS 10.31

Hi All,

Using an SE iPhone with iOS 9.33, & have never done an update.  I'm going to 
update to 10.31, & is there anything I should do before double tapping the 
install button?  Should I turn off Bluetooth, or anything like that, or just go 
ahead & install.  All apps are closed, & I have backed up the phone to both my 
computer & iTunes.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Updating To iOS 10.31

[Shaf Patel]

Back up your data, then go ahead and install.


On 4/6/2017 6:00 PM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>  
> Using an SE iPhone with iOS 9.33, & have never done an update.  I'm
> going to update to 10.31, & is there anything I should do before
> double tapping the install button?  Should I turn off Bluetooth, or
> anything like that, or just go ahead & install.  All apps are closed,
> & I have backed up the phone to both my computer & iTunes.  Thanks much.
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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RE: updating an app

[Louise Peyton]

Thank you.  ☺

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating an app


Go to the App Store; at the bottom, there are several tabs such as Search, and 
at the very right bottom, there's one called Updates. Double-tap on that one, 
and the apps that need updating will show up. Either double-tap on Update All, 
or you can update one by one; flicking to the right, after the app needing 
updates, you'll come across a button saying "Update, allowing you to update an 
app at a time. Good luck!

El 20/01/2017 a las 07:16 p.m., Louise Peyton escribió:
Hello, all:
I am a fairly new iPhone user.  Please tell me how to update an app.  Thanks.
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RE: updating an app

[Louise Peyton]

Thank you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 9:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: updating an app

By default automatic app updates is on, unless you turned it off your apps will 
automatically update.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louise Peyton
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Subject: updating an app

Hello, all:
I am a fairly new iPhone user.  Please tell me how to update an app.  Thanks.
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RE: updating an app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

By default automatic app updates is on, unless you turned it off your apps will 
automatically update.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 5:17 PM
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Hello, all:
I am a fairly new iPhone user.  Please tell me how to update an app.  Thanks.
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Re: updating an app

[Gerardo Corripio]

Go to the App Store; at the bottom, there are several tabs such as 
Search, and at the very right bottom, there's one called Updates. 
Double-tap on that one, and the apps that need updating will show up. 
Either double-tap on Update All, or you can update one by one; flicking 
to the right, after the app needing updates, you'll come across a button 
saying "Update, allowing you to update an app at a time. Good luck!



El 20/01/2017 a las 07:16 p.m., Louise Peyton escribió:


Hello, all:

I am a fairly new iPhone user.  Please tell me how to update an app.  
Thanks.


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RE: Updating SE

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Nancy,

A Few people reported they had battery drain issues after updating to iOS 10, 
but if you look at the larger community you probably find that more people 
report better battery life with iOS 10, there is nothing in iOS 10 which causes 
massive amounts of users to experience battery drain issues.
I would, however, highly recommend you follow a few simple steps to prepare for 
the update and, if at all possible, do the update via iTunes, you get much more 
feedback and I think updating from one major version to another still is safer 
using iTunes. In any case, here is what I do and this does seem to help in 
preventing issues:

1. Make sure all apps are updated before you upgrade
2. Backup your phone to iCloud or, if you can, do an encrypted backup to 
iTunes. If you do end up having to restore from a backup for some reason the 
encrypted backup will be the most complete.
3. After the backup has finished, bring up the app switcher (double press of 
the home button) and close/force quit all apps by swiping up with 3 fingers
4. Go to Settings > General > Reset and select "Reset Network Settings". 
Approve the reset/reboot.
5. Wait for your device to reboot, after you are back on your home screen you 
have to reconnect to your WiFi and, if you had renamed your phone to "Nancy's 
iPhone SE" go to Settings > General > About and at the very top double tap on 
the name which is just "iPhone" after the reset, delete it and type "Nancy's 
iPhone SE" or whatever you want to call I t.
6. Now do your update via iTunes or, if you don't want to do this, go to 
Settings > General > Software Update and initiate it from there.

Making sure all apps are updated is just good housekeeping, doing a backup is a 
no brainer just in case something goes wrong and doing the extra step of 
resetting network settings is a precaution, it may not do much and some say it 
is completely unnecessary, but I have seen so many situations where doing this 
fixed a number of issues including issues of battery drain that I just do it. 
It takes me a minute or two to reconnect to my WiFi and rename my phone again 
to what I want and to me that is worth it. 


Good luck,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nancy
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updating SE

Everyone!


My SE currently has 9.3.2.


What differences  will I notice if I upgrade to 10+?


Does 10 use more battery than 9?


If so, how can I reduce the drain?


Thanks so much!


Nancy and her SE

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