the need to merge the patent like it has been for plane seems reasonable.
the notion of taxing cold fusion is classic for IP or any business. Windows
is a tax on PC...
state or private is a polemic detail.
the CF inventors could merge their patents to accelerate the developpement
of applications
“where one of the two protons fuses, and the other is ejected carrying
the energy of the fusion reaction of the first proton.”
Could these two protons derive from a cooper pair of protons coming from a
Bose-Einstein condensate of entangled protons?
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, wrote:
> I
On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote:
I like his theory, it may well be the process happening. Even if it
isn't entirely, it provides a good starting point for further
research. I also very much like his notion of other systems that may
show LENR processes already. Including fail
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Joshua Cude
wrote:
> I could have made a mistake, but by my calculations, if the power
> increases at a constant Pdot = 160 W/s, then 13.5 L of water (per
> unit) will begin to boil in t = sqrt(2Q/Pdot) = 40 minutes, not 90.
> And the power at 90 minutes will be
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> Rossi has not yet released the technical specs for the 1 MW thermal oil /
> fluid plant. It is still under R&D as he says. But he works fast and I
> expect this to happen soon. When he does so we can rapidly move forward as
> from the outl
On 29 Nov 2011, at 22:49, Horace Heffner wrote:
>
> In 2007 I converted Jemimenko's theory into a full isomorphism between the
> laws of electromagnetism and the laws of gravimagnetism. Creating this
> isomorphism involves the use of the imaginary number i in gravimagnetic
> terms, and thus the
Rossi has not yet released the technical specs for the 1 MW thermal oil
/ fluid plant. It is still under R&D as he says. But he works fast and I
expect this to happen soon. When he does so we can rapidly move forward
as from the outlet fluid temperature spec, we can determine the max
steam temp
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> I'm not buying Rossi. I'm buying a piece of hardware with specifications
> that define how it should work. Hardware does not lie. Humans do lie and I
> accept that happens. Are you asking me to believe you have never lied? IMHO
> Rossi has
I'm not buying Rossi. I'm buying a piece of hardware with specifications
that define how it should work. Hardware does not lie. Humans do lie and
I accept that happens. Are you asking me to believe you have never lied?
IMHO Rossi has never lie to or mislead me. We exchange emails several
times
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> As a potential customer it is not my concern as it has no effect on the
> ROI or LCOE of any plant and / or equipment he may supply to us.
>
Apparently you're also not too concerned that Rossi may be a liar.
As a potential customer it is not my concern as it has no effect on the
ROI or LCOE of any plant and / or equipment he may supply to us.
AG
On 11/30/2011 3:17 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
Talking about money, didn't Rossi say that a big chunk of the money he
is going to make will go to child
Talking about money, didn't Rossi say that a big chunk of the money he is
going to make will go to children with cancer?
What happened to that?
G
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
> I'm working from currently published figures. $2 million for a 1 MW
> thermal plant and $500
I'm working from currently published figures. $2 million for a 1 MW
thermal plant and $500 k for the hot fluid to steam generator to steam
turbine to Ac generator plus control systems, valves, pumps, waste heat
radiators, etc.
My projection is based on what I believe may be achievable in the n
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
wrote:
>
> 4) Total plant cost (thermal and electrical) of $2,500,000 for a 1 MW
> thermal plant that produces 183 Ac kW after internal usage / losses
>
Playing the game for a moment, why does the thing have to cost $2.5M? Does
it really look to
As a guide:
1) thermal to electrical conversion efficiency of 35%, generating 350 Ac
kWs from 1 MW thermal
2) COP 6, feeding 167 kWs of electricity generated back into the input
to generate 1 MW thermal
3) 183 Ac kWs available to be sold (350 Ac kWs generated - 167 Ac kWs
looped back)
4)
noone noone wrote:
I don't agree with the government using tax dollars to pay cold fusion
> inventors.
>
> In my opinion, the government needs to be forced (peacefully) to grant
> Rossi's patent.
>
As I said, having the government grant a patent is functionally equivalent
to using a tax surchar
Better link:
http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_935_en.html
AG
On 11/30/2011 12:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
That is a VERY strong statement the WMO has just published:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-30/climate-change-to-kill-australians2c-report-says/3703062
say he
This is only a test.
But as long as I am writing it, here are some great pictures of robots gone
wild from the 1930s:
http://www.slate.com/slideshows/technology/the-robot-panic-of-the-great-depression.html
That is a VERY strong statement the WMO has just published:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-30/climate-change-to-kill-australians2c-report-says/3703062
say he sitting in Australia with 42 Ac GWs of thermal plants on line.
Hey Rossi how long to deliver 120 thermal GWs of E-Cats? Am I serious?
The Widom-Larsen transmutation experiments, e.g., electon beam impinging
on copper target (slides 21-23 in Widom's presentation [*]) certainly are
verifiable/falsifiable. It would be suprising if NASA's Bushnell has not
verified them. Many other credible researchers confirm them. Is it
reasonable
I've been looking through the Defkalion site again. They previously supplied
the Rossi patent material and Kullander reports as supporting documentation.
They have since removed Rossi references and claim the rights to market
globally.
" Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is base
On Nov 29, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
NICE, Horace - thanks for explaining this once again in the context
of an
incorrect view (Hajdukovic). I finally understand where you are
coming from.
This is the best stuff to appear on Vortex
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
NICE, Horace - thanks for explaining this once again in the context of an
incorrect view (Hajdukovic). I finally understand where you are coming from.
This is the best stuff to appear on Vortex in months and makes me glad I did
not sign off when the
I like his theory, it may well be the process happening. Even if it
isn't entirely, it provides a good starting point for further
research. I also very much like his notion of other systems that may
show LENR processes already. Including failing Li-Ion batteries,
(natural) isotope fractionation and
On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
I had always wondered about this:
"Four reasons why the quantum vacuum may explain dark matter
November 28, 2011 by Lisa Zyga
(PhysOrg.com) -- Earlier this year, PhysOrg reported on a new idea
that suggested that gravitational charges in the q
I don't agree with the government using tax dollars to pay cold fusion
inventors.
In my opinion, the government needs to be forced (peacefully) to grant Rossi's
patent.
When the government tries to fix a problem they helped create, 9 out of 10
times they make it worse.
__
I think what we need to do is convince the world that the E-Cat works, and then
promote a peaceful uprising of the people to force the patent office to grand
Rossi's patents.
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:50 PM
A tax on cold fusion devices?
The last thing we need is another tax!
Our government wastes billions of dollars as it is.
They could save billions by ending hot fusion research, and bringing our troops
home from around the world.
The ITER needs to be abolished.
_
Hi Mary Yugo,
You might be able to get away with your pseudo-identity on long bets.
There's no harm in trying to register at the website.
Let me know how it goes.
Regards,
Patrick
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
> My bet is:
> at 30 nov 2013 at least 5 companies other tha
Terry Blanton wrote:
A new discussion section just appeared on the Defkalion forum:
>
> "Discussion on Hyperion Specs
> (Unlocked following Spec release on November 30th 2011)"
>
> Let the fun begin!
>
Ah. I get it. You refer to this:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17
It
Craig Haynie wrote:
But you're not proposing a solution within a moral framework. You're
> advocating that people take money from those who may not want to give
> it . . .
In that case it should come from a temporary tax on the sale of cold fusion
devices. A royalty, in other words.
Taxation
A new discussion section just appeared on the Defkalion forum:
"Discussion on Hyperion Specs
(Unlocked following Spec release on November 30th 2011)"
Let the fun begin!
T
Terry Blanton wrote:
> Where is Stanley Pons?
>
He is living quietly in France. I have not heard from him in years.
- Jed
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Fleischmann is not working on anything. He is old and suffering from a fatal
> disease. He got nothing for his efforts in cold fusion. Neither did any of
> the other pioneers. They are mostly old or dead. All they got was 22 years
> of grief
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:34 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Craig Haynie wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
> > Someone here suggested that the best solution to this
> problem would be
> > for governments to throw a large pile
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, wrote:
> In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:38:04 -0500:
> Note also that 6-7 MeV is the energy that you get from fusing a proton with a
> Ni
> nucleus, so a likely reaction is the fusion of a Hydrino molecule with a Ni
> nucleus, where o
Robert Leguillon wrote:
Due to the international nature of these patents, what do you predict today?
>
I know little about patents. My only prediction is that the people who
deserve a patent for the basic invention of cold fusion will not get one.
Cold fusion is essentially in the public domain.
Craig Haynie wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
> > Someone here suggested that the best solution to this problem would be
> > for governments to throw a large pile of money that everyone involved
> > in the initial development of cold fusion. I think that would proba
Due to the international nature of these patents, what do you predict today?
Would LENR be coopted by the IAEA or UN? Would there be a declaration of energy
as a "human right", and thus richer countries subsidizing the energy needs of
poorer nations? Or would $ for new energy sources be pried fr
Here are some notes on the outcome. I though Uncle Sam purchased the
patents, as originally planned. Not so, according to: "The American
aviation experience: a history" By Tim Brady
There was a tangle of 130 patents, all essential to aviation.
On July 24, 1917 Congress appropriated $640 million f
I recommend giving his patent application another read, should you have the
time. I like that his reactions are both fission and fusion simultaneously -
talk about multi-tasking!:
[0069] In particular, said graphs clearly show that zinc is formed,
whereas zinc was not present in the nicke
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Someone here suggested that the best solution to this problem would be
> for governments to throw a large pile of money that everyone involved
> in the initial development of cold fusion. I think that would probably
> be a good idea. I hope
I think it is likely that the intellectual property rights for cold fusion
will soon result in a gigantic legal brawl with countless lawsuits. I
suppose that powerful interests may line up behind Piantelli to sue Rossi,
and vice versa, with everyone suing Defkalion. A lawsuit frenzy should not
hold
Gee wiz!
I sed something sort of like this about three to six months ago in the
Vort Collective. However, I'm sure what I said was stated much more
crudely.
I recall conjecturing that the aggregate "mass" existence of all those
fleeting virtual particles could possibly in themselves contribute to
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:38:04 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>* Confirms the presence of 6-7 Mev Protons
The suggestion that 6-7 MeV protons are responsible doesn't add up. If you
bombard Nickel with 6-7 MeV protons you don't get enough energy from the fusion
reactions to acc
I had always wondered about this:
"Four reasons why the quantum vacuum may explain dark matter
November 28, 2011 by Lisa Zyga
(PhysOrg.com) -- Earlier this year, PhysOrg reported on a new idea
that suggested that gravitational charges in the quantum vacuum could
provide an alternative to dark matt
So, DGT was trying to test self sustaining for 48 hours. Odd test. Why
exactly this one?
2011/11/29 Jed Rothwell
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Are you sure of that?
>
>
> Pretty sure. Reliable sources say so. Sorry to sound like a Magic 8-Ball.
>
> - Jed
>
>
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gma
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Efficiency is 60.1 km per liter (141 mpg), compared to an ordinary Prius
which gets 32.6 km per liter (77 mpg). (Those efficiency ratings sound too
high to me.)
They are probably based on the notion that a larger percentage of driving will
be pure electric, thus decreas
Am 29.11.2011 21:05, schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:50:06 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
See (in Japanese):
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atmoney/news/20111129-OYT1T00943.htm
Summary:
Sales will begin January 30, 2012. Minimum sales price wi
Am 29.11.2011 20:38, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Piantelli has loads of academic credibility. He is been supported for
many years by an Italian automobile manufacturer. I wish I could
recall which one.
So far I have read this was Fiat Avio SpA, which was Fiat's aviation
business. They sold it some
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:50:06 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>See (in Japanese):
>
>http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atmoney/news/2029-OYT1T00943.htm
>
>Summary:
>
>Sales will begin January 30, 2012. Minimum sales price will be ¥3,200,000
>($41,000)
On 2011-11-29 20:38, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Original source in Italian:
http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/14742857-novita-cella-piantelli.html
Hopefully we will have additional news on Piantelli by Roy Virgilio
soon. There were supposed to be some by the second half of Novem
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Are you sure of that?
Pretty sure. Reliable sources say so. Sorry to sound like a Magic 8-Ball.
- Jed
Rossi wrote:
> Unit to conform to all USA, State and Local regulations
> Unit to conform to USA domestic insurance regulations (Tower Insurance)
>
I do not think it will be possible to meet these two conditions in 2012 or
2013 either. The insurance regulators have never heard of this device. The
Are you sure of that? It was before the small scale tests for McKubre...
and in the very close to beginning of development of the ecat.
2011/11/29 Jed Rothwell
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Did he ever say "entire" factory or just heat a factory? :) Or was only
>> his room? Seeing his old tests to
>From Ahsoka,
> Unbeknownst to the cold fusion enthusiasts, Rossi is really doing a
> phenomenological study on the perception and judgement of those who
> believe in in LENR.
...
Assuming you're serious, and that Rossi's entire eCat endeavor has
been nothing more than a phenomenological study o
See (in Japanese):
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atmoney/news/2029-OYT1T00943.htm
Summary:
Sales will begin January 30, 2012. Minimum sales price will be ¥3,200,000
($41,000). after government rebates it comes to ¥2,750,000. it takes
roughly 3 hours to recharge. The range on batteries alone is
This has been discussed elsewhere, but a lot is happening and the threads
here are tangled up with [Vo]:Re:[Vo] problem, so I thought I would
reiterated it. Piantelli has been making some amazing claims lately. See:
http://ecatnews.com/?p=581
Original source in Italian:
http://www.energeticambie
>
> Dear Albert Ellul:
> I prefer not, I want to analyze a neutral reaction of the public to make
> projections.*This is a very important study*, not just a collection of
> pre-orders.
> Warm Regards,
> AR
>
Unbeknownst to the cold fusion enthusiasts, Rossi is really doing a
phenomenological stud
At 09:50 PM 11/28/2011, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Is the 1MW in addition to, or instead of the 100kW ?
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Did he ever say "entire" factory or just heat a factory? :) Or was
only his room? Seeing his old tests to McKubre, it should be something
below <400W, if that was the state of the art back then.
The heater in the factory produced 5 to 8 kW thermal. It is a small factory.
2011/11/29 Daniel Rocha :
> I think the only device that did not somehow impress the people who attended
> demonstrations, according to these, was the one shown to Krivit.
Maybe it was Rossi who set up Krivit knowing that he supported
Piantelli and that Krivit would ultimately look foolish reporti
FWIW I would recommend if at all possible trying to find a place of
neutrality on the Rossi/Defkalion matter.
In my view, there is too much rampant anticipation going on - and
that's not a good thing. Inevitably, unbridled anticipation tends to
generate profound disappointment when the anticipated
Albert Ellul
November 29th, 2011 at 4:29 AM
Dear Andrea,
May I make one suggestion: Would it be possible to include a counter on
you website showing the number of people that have confirmed the
pre-order for the 10KW heater? Just thinking.
Andrea Rossi
November 29th, 2011 at 9:29 AM
N
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:
> If it’s all a hoax, gotta ask yourself, why would Rossi go to all the
> trouble of completely changing the reactor? If the thing is NOT producing
> any excess power, and if the Ni powder is NOT melting, WHY
I have showed that the energy level of the hydrogen atom, cold fusion, and the
photon occur across paths of matching impedance. I was a bit baffled by the
higher Z elements and the fine structure of the atom. I believe I have solved
this part now.
http://www.wbabin.net/science/znidarsic3.
I don't know about everyone else but I am on pins and needles awaiting the
Defkalion press-release.
A year ago, with Rossi's first public demo, I thought the world is changed
and so many of our global problems can be solved. With essentially
unlimited free energy, pollution, global warming, food s
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Mary Yugo wrote:
>
> Well, you see, the problem is that there are many possible errors in their
>> determinations and they did not do what was need to rule them out.
>>
>
> No, there are not. This is your imagination.
>
Take away the heat o
Am 29.11.2011 18:15, schrieb Mary Yugo:
If you're easily offended, just skip it.
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Here's another one to load up:
<>
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:
> ** **
>
> If it’s all a hoax, gotta ask yourself, why would Rossi go to all the
> trouble of completely changing the reactor? If the thing is NOT producing
> any excess power, and if the Ni powder is NOT melt
Key statement by DGT in the Ny Teknik article is the following:
"It's very simple but they didn't think about it. (...) We solved the
problem. Because the problem is that he cannot spread the reaction all over
the pipe, and all the heating is concentrated in the middle", Xanthoulis
told Ny Teknik.
Hahahahahausauiahsiudhadhfahdahiaasihafaofihasi!!11! KK! :D VERY
FUNNY!
Actually creative. The annoying thing is being repetitive, not just
disagreeing.
2011/11/29 Mary Yugo
> If you're easily offended, just skip it.
>
> http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
>
>
>
--
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Berke Durak wrote:
>
> - At 11:00:04, the reactors are turned on.
>
> - The 13.5 l of water they each contain start heating up.
>
> - The power level of the reactors rises linearly at a rate of 160 W /
> s. This can be deduced from the profile of the warm-up per
I think the only device that did not somehow impress the people who
attended demonstrations, according to these, was the one shown to Krivit.
2011/11/29 Mary Yugo
>
>
> 2011/11/29 Daniel Rocha
>
>> He didn't say how much that was heated! But it's weird that he mentions
>> that. It's like he is
If you're easily offended, just skip it.
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
2011/11/29 Daniel Rocha
> He didn't say how much that was heated! But it's weird that he mentions
> that. It's like he is inviting the patent analyzers to test his device, LOL!
>
Nothing we know about this device suggests it was ever shown to the press.
Krivit wanted to see it but he wrote th
He didn't say how much that was heated! But it's weird that he mentions
that. It's like he is inviting the patent analyzers to test his device, LOL!
2011/11/29 Robert Leguillon
> /snip/
> Did he ever say "entire" factory or just heat a factory? :) Or was only
> his room? Seeing his old tests to
All this discussion based on an August phone call to someone at Ny Teknik
back in August is just unwarranted drama, I predict Xanthoulis will deny
this version of the story and leave it to Rossi to make a case if there is
one. If DK did get a hint from Sienna then they have had plenty of time to
d
/snip/
Did he ever say "entire" factory or just heat a factory? :) Or was only his
room? Seeing his old tests to McKubre, it should be something below <400W, if
that was the state of the art back then.
/snip/
In his patent application, he states:
[0060] A practical embodiment of the inventiv
Did he ever say "entire" factory or just heat a factory? :) Or was only his
room? Seeing his old tests to McKubre, it should be something below <400W,
if that was the state of the art back then.
2011/11/29 Stephen A. Lawrence
> **
>
>
> On 11-11-29 10:55 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Or perhaps in
On 11-11-29 11:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Exactly how do we square this with Rossi's claim that he ran a reactor
for *two years*, heating a factory?
Perhaps they meant that in self-sustaining mode?
I believe that's what it means. Obviously they know a reactor ran f
On 11-11-29 10:55 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Or perhaps in very low power. Like, for example, an input of 10W,
output of 150W.
That doesn't seem to me to make a lot of sense for a space heater
adequate to heat an entire factory. But I suppose you can assume that,
if you like, and justify Ross
Akira Shirakawa wrote:
Exactly how do we square this with Rossi's claim that he ran a reactor
for *two years*, heating a factory?
Perhaps they meant that in self-sustaining mode?
I believe that's what it means. Obviously they know a reactor ran for 18
hours in one test. I think they are re
Or perhaps in very low power. Like, for example, an input of 10W, output of
150W.
2011/11/29 Akira Shirakawa
> On 2011-11-29 16:46, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
>
> Exactly how do we square this with Rossi's claim that he ran a reactor
>> for *two years*, heating a factory?
>>
>
> Perhaps they m
On 2011-11-29 16:46, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Exactly how do we square this with Rossi's claim that he ran a reactor
for *two years*, heating a factory?
Perhaps they meant that in self-sustaining mode?
Just guessing.
Cheers,
S.A.
On 2011-11-29 16:43, Jed Rothwell wrote:
A copy of the slides in Acrobat format and a convenient list of the
YouTube links are here:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm
Thanks for the slides, I was wondering if they were available somewhere.
Cheers,
S.A.
Many of us have given Steven the same sound advice but you can't make him
drink.
Here's an extremely interesting item from the linked Nyteknik article:
According to Xanthoulis, *Rossi could not run the reaction more than
24 hours*, and when Defkalion required a 48 hour test it supposedly
led to a conflict with Rossi.
Exactly how do we square this with Rossi's claim that h
A copy of the slides in Acrobat format and a convenient list of the YouTube
links are here:
http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm
- Jed
That's the problem with IP protection through security, leaks are not
necessarily theft in a legal sense (the only one that matters
commercially). Even if there may be individuals who have signed
non-disclosure agreements etc and then leaked info, it is only them
and the organisations they work fo
On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:18 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
As I read it, this is not fusion, as it was understood to happen.
So not much use looking for the products expected from conventional
fusion. May have seem transmutations but no gammas. So why stress
out over missing gammas? The old unde
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Only in this case. This invention, if true, is too precious to be kept
> private.
Wasn't that the defense used by Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?
T
As I read it, this is not fusion, as it was understood to happen. So not
much use looking for the products expected from conventional fusion. May
have seem transmutations but no gammas. So why stress out over missing
gammas? The old understand is not happening here. I'm just an engineer
but may
It is still theft. No way to spin it any other way.
AG
On 11/30/2011 12:29 AM, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote:
it looks like what I say about patent race... hard to keep an IP from
creative competitors...
On one test occasion Rossi had provided 2 holes through the 2 cm thick
lead shielding. The scientists present at that test tried to switch the
radiation detector from count mode to spectrum mode, despite Rossi
telling them they were not allowed to record a spectrum. Rossi saw what
they were try
what is more sensible for me is that in the article they pretend that
the e-cat cannot be stable for more of 24hour because of the design that
create hot-sport in the middle(explanation is credible)...
the second most sensible point is that they pretend to have solved the
problem,
meaning that it c
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 20:35 -0800, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
> Wouldn't that be a hoot if it was good ol Dr. Mills.
>
> I hear BLP had to cut back on space heating to save money, and their
> technology is a little behind schedule, and over budget!
> :-)
>
> -Mark
What is their technology? A
One problem with this statement by Rossi that 18 kg hydrogen and 10
kg nickel is required for a 180 day charge for 1 MW, is that it is
inconsistent with the gammas observed (i.e. not observed.) See:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53616.html
The non-transmuted Ni could of
One problem with this statement by Rossi that 18 kg hydrogen and 10
kg nickel is required for a 180 day charge for 1 MW, is that it is
inconsistent with the gammas observed (i.e. not observed.) See:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53616.html
The non-transmuted Ni could of
I am rather sure there is no radiation to measure and so there is no spectrum
to measure and there is nothing to steal.
They play a collaborative soap opera behind the scenes, where they all win
investors.
Everybody who has money invested in Piantelli, Defkalion or Rossi's business
should go t
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