[mailto:sa...@pobox.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:56 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warming
Jeff Fink wrote:
THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
11-24-09
There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails.
Since when are leaked emails a source of anything except
THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
11-24-09
There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that the
scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming agenda have
been suppressing and altering data. Temperature data recorded over the last
ten years has apparently indicated
You misunderstand my position on these experiences. In my belief system, I
don't fear demons or the devil. Through Jesus they fear me. I will never
see a UFO, or have an alien abduction experience.
We must know our enemy in order to win, but most people don't even believe
the devil or demons
You were right to ultimately conclude that it was not Jesus, but it was
something that a true psychic channeler would know very well. There are
fake channelers too who are not connected to the spirit world.
For every real thing that exists in this world, there are hucksters out
there dealing
It seems to me that traditional cases of demon possession over the centuries
have been more common with more documentations than the UFO/abductions we
have today. Couldn't this all be a new twist on an old theme? Perhaps we
tend to embrace this new stuff and reject the old stuff simply because
who have a preconceived belief that they
apply regardless of objective evidence.
Ed
On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:58 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
It seems to me that traditional cases of demon possession over the
centuries
have been more common with more documentations than the UFO/
abductions we
have
Years ago Ripley's Believe it or Not reported that a person went out in
their yard one day and found a small pile of metal pieces all shaped like
the letter E.
What were they?
How did they get there?
Could they be of alien origin?
They offered no answer.
Anybody want to guess?
Think about
Could we all consider the possibility that the sightings and abductions
reported over the years were experienced in a manner that bypassed the five
senses and were sent directly to a person's brain by entities that cannot
effectively manipulate matter and energy but operate outside the real
world.
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From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 12:00 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm
But Jeff, artifacts do exist. They have been seen by people and
described in detail.
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From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 1:58 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm
On Aug 1, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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From
What level of reduced prosperity do you aspire to, and how much higher than
that are you living now? Will you be downgrading to the use of a library
computer?
What standard of living do you wish to apply to the rest of us?
Should working hard to get ahead be a crime?
Jeff
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Wouldn't these things be a delight to pilots? And, imagine the wreckage
raining down on the city when something structural goes wrong.
Jeff
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From: OrionWorks [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
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From: John Berry [mailto:aethe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Enough Already
I am afraid my specifically On Topic thread looks like it will die due to
inattention, version 1.0 died over at Overunity.com due to
Politics will ultimately determine the brand of physics we are allowed to
believe.
Jeff
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From: David Jonsson [mailto:davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BAN ON POLITICS still in effect here
How
A clarification:
I was responding to Leaking pen, when he challenged me to survive in a room
full of CO2 as proof that CO2 is not pollutant. To that I responded that
even at twice ambient atmospheric levels of CO2, I would not even notice.
In a subsequent post I backed up my response with some
released into the atmosphere.
Obviously, that's not what is meant here.
Clarify?
It's not the CO2 which is being burned, of course! The antecedent of
it was murky, but it actually referred to fossil fuels, not CO2.
The original statement was from Jeff Fink, who stated that if you need
to capture
in carbon capture
Jeff Fink wrote:
Repeat after me 100 times: CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a
pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant.
Of course it is a pollutant! That is an absurd assertion. Excessive
CO2 causes harm, and it is injected into the atmosphere by people,
therefore
that, hows about we lock you in a room and pump in co2? see
what it does
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote:
Repeat after me 100 times: CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a
pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a
If we have
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:16 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:first day in carbon capture
Jeff Fink wrote:
Funny how we are willing to build Nuclear plants for other
countries, but we are going to stick ourselves with windmills and
solar
Science is not political? We, on this forum, of all people, know just how
political science has become. Reality and facts bend to
political bias all the time. If not, we would likely be powering the world
with cold fusion by now.
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From: leaking pen
We have economical examples of these devices all over the planet. They are
called trees. They are self replicating, and the higher the concentration
of CO2 gets the faster they replicate. Well, isn't that cool? A self
regulating planet wide system is already in place to deal with the problem.
Repeat after me 100 times: CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant.
CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant. :
CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant.
CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 is not a
Kyle,
Pardon my ignorant, irrational excursion into green shock technology. What
you are saying here makes perfect practical sense, even though the PS
article played it up so nicely.
I am a retired designer of large scale power generating systems. No one
should have any regard for what I say
About a year or two ago Kyle, you jumped all over my idea of harnessing the
power wasted in automobile shock absorbers. Check out the June 09 Popular
Science, page 48.
Jeff
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From: Jeff Fink [mailto:rev...@ptd.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:02 AM
To: 'g...@resist.ca'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
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From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:56 PM
To: vortex-l
I'm at a loss to figure what aspect of human nature would cause a person to
write a response like the one you wrote here.
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From: grok [mailto:g...@resist.ca]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:36 AM
To: Jeff Fink
Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1
how do you measure person's effort?
by a person's income?
Harry
Effort is what is required to put an ability or talent to work. Except for
the severely handicapped, we all have things we can do, whether it be
picking berries out of someone's field or picking tumors out of someone's
Harry,
Take note of what you wrote here. Money is not the root of all evil. It is
the LOVE of money that is the problem.
Jeff
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From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:53 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1
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From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: FW: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
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From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:46 pm
Subject
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From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hvee...@ncf.ca]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:49 pm
Subject: RE
This all sounds great, but let's see someone do it competitively on a large
scale before pinning our hopes on it.
Jeff
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From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore
Hydro! Are you kidding? All the good remaining sites are protected by the
Sierra Club. Even small hydro installations across the country have been
decommissioned by the dozens over the last 50 years. I remember driving
past the abandoned Bells Island Hydro plant on the James River in Richmond
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From: Jeff Fink [mailto:rev...@ptd.net]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:32 PM
To: 'g...@resist.ca'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear
Again, the losses involved with transmitting power halfway around the world
are overwhelming. Only Tesla or a sci fi
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From: Jeff Fink [mailto:rev...@ptd.net]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:21 PM
To: 'g...@resist.ca'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear
Solar electric, I read, uses indium which is in short supply and isn't even
mineable. The production process releases
sources instantly. doing
SOMETHING is doing just what we are doing already.
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote:
It appears from your analysis that the earth has more self regulating
capability than most experts give it credit for. Further, it seems to
me
the
gas leaving a coal plant, so is mercury and uranium, which is a
benefit to your health. You need to look past the propaganda
generated by the energy industries that would lose profits.
Ed
On Apr 25, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Jeff Fink wrote:
It appears from your analysis that the earth has more
It appears from your analysis that the earth has more self regulating
capability than most experts give it credit for. Further, it seems to me
that it will be better to observe and collect more data for a while instead
of rushing off to do something. Better to do nothing than to do the wrong
Large base load nuclear and coal fired plants are not unresponsive. They
can reduce load from 100% to 50% in a matter of minutes. The water volume
is not an issue.
Utilities are about producing power as cheaply as possible. It is expensive
to run these large units at reduced power for several
-Original Message-
From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Thoughts on this and that
8. Republicans...now I turn to you. Why are so many of
you HOPING Obama et al trash the place? Wouldn't
Keynesian economics is a ponzi scheme. The story goes that Keynes was
confronted with this accusation a few years before his death. He concurred,
but said it didn't concern him because he would be dead before it all came
crashing down.
I think he died about three years ago. Would it help
, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
wrote:
Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote:
I have been seeing ads for a portable plug in electric fire place that
uses as much electricity as a kitchen coffee maker but puts out 5000
watts
of heat. Has anybody checked this out from
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor J. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:29 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan
Jeff wrote:
Bible prophesy, which has a habit of coming true,
That means you are suppose to bless those muslims who hate you.
Harry
Yes.
Before, during, and after 9-11 America had troops in Kosovo protecting
Muslims from Serbian attack. My son was one of those troops.
Jeff
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From: Mike Carrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:36 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan
With militant Islam, you see it filtered through a
honor-based desert culture. The
Good Christians, living their faith by the book, love their enemies. Good
Muslims, living their faith by the book, kill their enemies which include
all non Muslims. Don't take my word for it. Look it up.
The people on this list are technically brilliant, but in some other
important areas, the
While Obama promises to redistribute the wealth, isn't it great that we have
a fine organization like Acorn to redistribute the votes.
Jeff
These engines are commonly called hit and miss engines. A governor suspends
the spark above a certain speed. With no load they will free wheel several
cycles between receiving a spark and firing. Under load they will fire on
every cycle.
Jeff
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From: Stephen A.
Ecycle is only 15 mi from my house. I suppose I could visit them sometime.
Is there anything in particular you would like me to look for or ask them if
I go?
Jeff
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:57 PM
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:Hybrid
The dems control the house and senate. They don't need a single republican
vote to get anything they want! If the bill went down in flames it is
because some of their own people thought it stank. The only reason they
want republican votes is so they can pass some of the blame when it doesn't
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:08 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
- Original Message
... apparently Remi does not remember the infamous Keating Five -
... from
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From: Jeff Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:17 PM
To: 'vortex-l@eskimo.com'
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Could we say that most of the problems with the US government can be traced
to areas where it extends beyond
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From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc: Edmund Storms
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC News of the bailout
Actually, only the Supreme Court can answer this question and they
show no interest in
-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:11 AM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Palin probably reduced the Bradley effect
Jones Beene wrote:
The issue of closet racism skewing poll results is called the
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Palin probably reduced the Bradley effect
BTW - although Palin was probably a positive choice for McCain, given all
the demographics, it
Did anyone notice that on one of the tower collapse videos that one corner
column remained standing for a moment after the collapse before it dropped
vertically, probably due to buckling near the base. I'm not sure what the
significance of this is, only that it means something.
Jeff
Parks is still standing in the way of progress. How can he be so arrogant
and narrow minded, as if known physics is all the physics there is. If
known physics can't deliver what the human race needs then we must look for
something beyond. It's as simple as that.
Jeff
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The mortgage bailout of a few weeks ago is also funded for 300 billion.
So, double the cost to the responsible American!
I'm really tired of having responsible American being made responsible for
everyone else's irresponsibility!
Jeff
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From: Horace Heffner
Some people in this forum may be surprised that I have not contributed to
this discussion. So, here I am to make a few points.
1. This is a valid discussion, since the religious/political events of the
next 20 years will affect us all more seriously than the success or failure
of cold fusion.
The first practical LENR device will not be the best or the only method.
There will be a thousand patentable variations. Any successful design
will have teams of competing engineers feverishly designing around the
patents, and in the process, they will quite often develop a vastly superior
I came across a study a few years ago that showed that the US presently has
more forested land than it did in the year 1900. My personal observation
verifies that. The fields around the house I grew up in, and the house I
have live in now (33 yrs.) have all grown over with forest. Historical
With the system the way it is in the US, if you need an operation for
something you can get it quickly.
I read that in Great Britain 30% of the people with curable colon cancer are
dying from colon cancer, because, by the time the operation is scheduled it
is no longer curable. You can bet that
If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it's free.
Jeff
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From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:10 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC A friend without health insurance
This is indeed a sad
When the democrats take over this fall, they will surely set thing right.
Jeff
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I was surprised that there was no discussion of this subject. Is there lack
of postings because it is seen by this group to be so frightful, or so
preposterous?
Jeff
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From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:34 AM
To:
Richard,
With the exception of you, Mr. Malloy, and me, the contributors to this
forum represent the most amazing dichotomy I have ever encountered. With
open minds and open eyes they fearlessly assail the bastions of physics, and
with rather meager amounts of experimental data and observations,
When we consider excavated observations ranging from the Cambrian explosion
to overthrusts to polystrate tree trunks, it is clear to me that the
theory of evolution is fatally flawed and totally bankrupt. So, where do I
go for the truth about our origins?
Jeff
P.S. I can't seem to find the
]:Creationism (was Re:OT: periodic table)
Jeff Fink wrote:
When we consider excavated observations ranging from the Cambrian explosion
to overthrusts to polystrate tree trunks, it is clear to me that the
theory of evolution is fatally flawed and totally bankrupt.
And it is clear to me that you don't
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From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore
Please provide an example how a nation with veto power on the security
council
Since absolute power corrupts absolutely, a rule that seems to have no
exception, a fully empowered one world government will be the most frightful
entity ever encountered by the human race, and I sadly believe that most of
us under age sixty will live to see what I mean. Historically a person
I don't want to see anyone change the constitution for any reason. We would
all be much better off if our government would just conform to it exactly
the way it is.
Jeff
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:12 PM
To:
Ten years ago I tinkered together a 20 ft long replica of a Mississippi
River sternwheeler, only it runs on compressed air instead of steam. It
uses a portable air tank at 65 psi driving twin 2 bore by 6 stroke air
cylinders. When the engine driving the compressor quits, I have a range of
about
I accidently bought 2,000 of those two months ago but, sent them back in
exchange for the plastic version since they are $0.15 ea. cheaper. If
somebody wants some I know where to find them. Call Advanced Mili Technology
949 481 5435
Jeff
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From: Jones Beene
Is it culture that allowed western Europe/America to develop such incredible
technology while all previous insipient techno societies such as China and
Egypt failed to mature technically? I tend to think that freedom and the
rise of a middle class are essential. There must be time and resources
I read somewhere a long time ago that the offspring of interracial unions
are, in general, bigger healthier and smarter than pure breds. Does any
one know the source of that, or if it has been proven.
Also, if we all got here via the evolutionary process, then one race will
necessarily be
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL
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From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
As I recall from thermodynamics courses, you can increase the efficiency of
turbomachinery using intercooling (
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
On Dec 11, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Not me. The energy used to make electricity:
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
On Dec 11, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
Waste power plant heat is much cooler than geothermal.
That's
I would like to ask one favor of you that would make you unique among all
the predecessors who may have accomplished a similar achievement. Please
get copies or kits into the hands of reputable experimenters ASAP so that
this technology is not lost to civilization all over again. If this checks
Eric Dollard made a video of his experiments in 1988 where he had a light
bulb operating on cold electricity. It was called Tesla's longitudinal
electricity. Aside from the peculiar glow of the bulb, there were other
strange characteristics. A piece of copper suspended next to it was
attracted
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From: Tesla list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: Latest Ball Lightning model (fwd)
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:35:28 +
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To: Tesla
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:31 AM
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:Cold vibes NMR
Neutrons - produced 'on demand' are arguably the most valuable commodity
on earth.
Recalling this line from your post in July, I was
I do not know if this was ever published, where Vassilatos is today.
- Jed
I was asking in the P.S. about Eric Dollard, whom I was googling when I came
across the Farnsworth stuff. The little I have read thus far on his Tesla
experiments and his thoughts on the nature of electricity are
Consider Michael Foster’s post of 7-1-07 on the Griggs cavitator along with
subsequent posts by Jones Beene.
Now, recall Mike Huffman’s cavitation experiment where he achieved overunity
torque along with perhaps some harmful radiation by using an acrylic case
and rotor.
Suppose Michael
I got 10 bulbs on ebay for $2.60 ea. including shipping.
The dim range is quite acceptable to me, but if you push the low end, they
flicker.
Jeff
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You forgot J. J. Montgomery, the father of basic flying. He flew a
controlled glider in 1883. The Wright brothers read his book before
designing their own successful flying machines.
Jeff
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:52 PM
To:
I last posted on the global warming subject several months ago with a
question that was not adequately answered by the global warming believers.
So, here it is again.
Why were the climate experts of the late seventies warning us of a coming
ice age while we were in the early stages of global
So, why can’t people living within a few hundred feet of high voltage
transmission lines tap useful “free” power with a 60 Hz receiver circuit?
Jeff
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From: John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:57 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tesla
Does the US have the largest Spanish speaking population?
Jeff
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:42 AM
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:the times, they are a changin'
A few years ago, 95-99 % of the comments about LENR on Slashdot
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:00 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:PHEVs not a good solution
Here's another good one Jed:
It is better to be on the ground wishing you were flying, than to be flying
and wishing
Al Gore is poised to make millions if not billions off of “global warming”.
He puts some chart in his movie saying it is now the warmest ever and you
buy it as gospel.
There are some flakey snake oil salesmen out there, and the gullibility of
some on this forum scares me.
It has been much
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From: John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:12 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:The Fallacy of arguments against Global Warming
The problem with augments against Global Warming is they lack pragmatism.
There are in the end 2 types of arguments
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From: Paul Lowrance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:36 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:to John Berry regarding GW
No offense intended, but this topic is one of few that I take
***extremely***
seriously. I will be out right
The moon is just about the only other thing we can look at. Mercury is too
close to the sun, the other planets are cloud shrouded, and everything else
is likely too small to get a good reading. But, you are right. We should
see the same effect of elevated temps on the moon if solar activity is
Also you said I recall a news caster six weeks before saying that Europe
had
just experienced the warmest autumn in 500 years. You recall a news caster
making a statement??
The newscaster reported a statement. I don't know if he named a source. The
item was obviously intended to hype GW
The headline in my newspaper of Saturday Feb. 3, 2007 said, “GLOBAL WARNING-
If nothing is done to combat greenhouse gases, extreme weather could kill 1
million people by 2100…
I am greatly concerned about the “global warming hysteria” that is being
foisted upon the public. I recall a news
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From: Jeff Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:11 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Vo]: weight and charge
I didn't follow all of this thread, but an interesting thought occurred to
me that may have been considered and rejected
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