Re: [Vo]:The great oil sniffer hoax

2011-07-09 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is a technological hoax that bamboozled $150 million from high officials in oil companies and governments. I did not realize such large, high-level hoaxes existed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oil_Sniffer_Hoax Aha, that's different from the on

[Vo]:Mythbusters: gets microwave boiling physics wrong

2011-07-18 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Jones Beene wrote: I suspect you were using pure water and it superheated. You were lucky - superheated water from a microwave can explode and cause a burn. Microwave coffee explodes. Soup explodes. Spaghetti sauce especially explodes. So do egg yolks (no shells.) My

[Vo]:REMOVED: Damon Craig on vortexB-L only

2011-07-31 Thread William Beaty
Removed for repeated flagrant violation of Rule #2 "No Sneering." See: http://amasci.com/weird/wvort.html#rules http://amasci.com/weird/vmore.html Mr. Craig remains available via secondary "flamewars" list vortex...@eskimo.com. To subscribe, send a *blank* message to: vortexb-l-requ.

Re: [Vo]:WTF: The Easiest 100% FREE Electricity...Build It In Less Than An Hour!

2011-08-02 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote: WTF! I really makes me sad that there are people trying to rip people off in this way. :(. No idea where they got my email address from. This "Magniwork" scam group is apparently huge. On google ads I have blocks on hundreds of different websit

[Vo]:October SSE "Edge Science" mag, free issue

2011-11-08 Thread William Beaty
The SSE has another issue online of their "EdgeScience" magazine: http://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/ http://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/edgescience_09.pdf - "Anecdotal" Evidence - Letters: Tunguska and UFOs - The plasma universe of Hannes Alfven

Re: [Vo]:CALL FOR REDIRECT OF SOME TOPICS OR DISCUSSIONS TO VORTEX-B

2011-12-18 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Terry Blanton wrote: Hey,Bill, Do you have a Paypal account? It's time for Vorts to ante up. Yep, on paypal it's just my normal email: billb()amasci dotcom (figure out obfuscation) Recent news: Me being insulted by William Shatner on ca-only History channel show

[Vo]:values decreasing...

2011-02-25 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Joshua Cude wrote: ,in the data by orders of magnitude (10^10 if I remember), from the fact that the highest values came from BARC within weeks of the press conference (for what is supposed to be a very difficult experiment), that they have gotten smaller over the years, a

[Vo]:lorenhe...@aol.com blocked from vortex: political hatred

2012-11-04 Thread William Beaty
I've moved lorenhe...@aol.com to vortex...@eskimo.com For everyone's information: vortex-L has no anti-flamewars rule, but in the long term, I take action on Internet Trolls who attract multiple complaints from other users here. How to avoid getting thrown off vortex? Same as with any foru

[Vo]:Wow! Pointed questioning of the foundations of physics

2012-11-10 Thread William Beaty
There's an excellent and large collection of physics essay entries over at the 2012 FQXi essay contest. (Rats! Entries are closed, finalists already selected!) Contest, which of our basic physical assumptions are wrong? http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1263 the essays http://fqxi.o

RE: [Vo]:Ours or Theirs?

2012-11-12 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: http://kdvr.com/2012/11/08/mile-high-city-mystery-ufo-sightings-in-sky-over- denver/ They need a high speed camera to find out what this is. Or just a stereo vid cam, to prove that it's not a nearby object (just an insect out of

[Vo]:The great neodymium famine

2009-09-10 Thread William Beaty
China is considering a ban on export of many rare-earth metals, and curtailment of sales of others. This may mark the end of the era of cheap plentiful neodymium magnets. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6082464/World-faces-hi-tech-crunch-as-China-eyes-ban-on-rar

[Vo]:Keppe motor... Demo in Los Angeles, 9/22 (fwd)

2009-09-19 Thread William Beaty
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:27:45 -0700 From: vortex-l-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: Keppe motor... Demo in Los Angeles, 9/22 Any Vorts in the LA area??? Mark Iverson == PRESS CONFERENCE: See a demonstration of the Keppe Motor

[Vo]:Invisible aircraft

2009-09-19 Thread William Beaty
Re: [Vo]:Progress in invisibility cloaks Here's a 1980s idea I never followed up: easy way to make aircraft invisible. I realized this was possible while working with GRIN lenses. If we were living underwater, we could cover an object with a layer of alcohol or syrup, then adjust the inde

Re: [Vo]:The coming of Wireless Power, A report on CNN

2009-09-20 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: BTW while we are on the topic, consider that it might be possible to use the lower Van Allen belt as the transmitter, allowing reception of free power. (The belt itself is of course powered by the solar wind). There should be a point where the str

Re: [Vo]:The coming of Wireless Power, A report on CNN

2009-09-20 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, William Beaty wrote: But that would be high-power RF which for some reason doesn't show up on detectors built for that freq range. On the other hand, if the phenomenon produced a natural amplifer and not an ionospheric oscillator, then N. Tesla's "Worl

[Vo]:new magazine: "Edge Science"

2009-10-05 Thread William Beaty
Hey, SSE just published a new magazine on alt-science, edited by Patrick Huyghe of The Anomalist.(I'm buying the paper version, so they'll actually earn a few dollars.) http://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/ --- EdgeScience Magazine New from SSE! Why EdgeScience? Because, contrar

Re: [Vo]:Our Jobless Startrek Future

2009-10-09 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, John Berry wrote: > If so few jobs are needed then people can do things they are passionate > about and take a great amount of care in what they do. But imagine how the population will get there. It takes a 9-5 day job to support a family, or even just pay rent. No job, unemp

[Vo]:Park, memory ..some debunkers are pseudoscientists

2009-11-08 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/ In his newsletter Park sez: "Is there no memory? Where I grew up in Texas no one would think of digging a well until the local dowser using a willow fork approved the spot. Since then, dowsing for wate

[Vo]:Clem: FE device turns out real

2009-11-08 Thread William Beaty
Hey, it looks like an FE/OU device turns out to actually be real. It's the infamous Clem Device from pre-internet days on Keelynet BBS (early 1990s.) This was a closed "fuelless" fluid cavitation vortex turbine device which the inventor installed in a car and drove around. He got the idea fr

[Vo]:Lightning affects rainbows?!

2009-11-08 Thread William Beaty
Years ago in my museum days I was having to explain rainbow optics to the general public ...and also having to explain thunderstorms. I stumbled across a strange idea: shouldn't the electrostatic fields in thunderstorms have a visible affect on rainbows? E-fields should slightly distort fal

Re: [Vo]:Clem: FE device turns out real

2009-11-09 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: If this is so, then it should surprise everyone by also running on water. :) But in that case everyone "knows" that it's a scam. Right? If it turns out to actually be consuming vegetable oil, then you can start immediately selling them for use i

[Vo]:Lightning affects sundogs?!

2009-11-09 Thread William Beaty
Years ago I was explaining rainbow optics ...and also explaining thunderstorm dynamics. I stumbled across a strange idea: shouldn't the electrostatic fields in thunderstorms have a visible effect on rainbows? E-fields should slightly distort falling raindrops, causing the light distribution o

Re: [Vo]:Park, memory ..some debunkers are pseudoscientists

2009-11-12 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > Abd sez: > > ... > > > I'm not ready yet, but, looking ahead, do you > > think I could get Robert Park to denounce my > > Kitchen Fusion kits? > > Just drop him a line when you get up to speed. I bet he would oblige. > No problemo! ;-)

[Vo]:VORTEX ALIVE AGAIN

2009-11-12 Thread William Beaty
Trying again... ISP eskimo.com had serious problems, was dead for more than 24hrs. Everything's supposedly fixed now. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com

Re: [Vo]:VORTEX ALIVE AGAIN

2009-11-13 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Horace Heffner wrote: In the event vortex-l goes down for an extended time, or gets shut down by men in black, etc., I would like to suggest designating a group on which messages can be exchanged to get status info and regroup if necessary. I would like to suggest: eski

Re: [Vo]:Long interview with Taubes

2009-11-23 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > What a creep! See: http://www.thedailybell.com/BellPage.asp?nid=604 His article fails the basic pseudoscience test ...and he even MENTIONS this test for detecting pseudoscience! It might seem quite bizarre at first. Don't people typically use the Golde

Re: [Vo]:Re: Eagle-Research eNotice

2009-11-25 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Horace Heffner wrote: > I haven't looked at the referenced website yet, as I have little time > at the moment. However, it seems this might be a future topic of > interest on vortex-l, depending on how things go for Eaton, Sokol, > and Allan. Who besides the inventor has achi

[Vo]:terrifying online videos

2009-12-03 Thread William Beaty
Danyk666 and his microwave oven (Czech language) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_DKblzdbJI Yeesh! Like pouring a bucket of live spiders down your pants. And if you thought THAT was bad... danyk and his unshielded x-ray source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzMXKxadnVw danyk mak

[Vo]:helicopter electrostatic glow

2009-12-08 Thread William Beaty
Dust impact? Glow discharge? Dust contaminates the N2O2 plasma? Bright yellow glow from helicopter rotors http://www.michaelyon-online.com/the-kopp-etchells-effect.htm (from http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/realitycarnival.html) (( ( ( ( ((O)) )

Re: [Vo]:helicopter electrostatic glow

2009-12-08 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Horace Heffner wrote: > Titanium dust oxidizing. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_rotor > "When operating in sandy environments, sand hitting the moving rotor > blades erodes their surface. This can damage the rotors; the erosion > also presents serious and costly ma

Re: [Vo]:STEORN has created official You Tube web site

2009-12-12 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Terry Blanton wrote: run by Clanzer, aka Eltimple. He has a demonstration of a cycling k-toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q7NdVxEx9A which he says is self running. I do not think Eltimple would hoax such a thing if you take a look at all his vids on youtube and his pos

Re: [Vo]:STEORN has created official You Tube web site

2009-12-13 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Terry Blanton wrote: > > He calls it a "theoretical working" machine.  The motions of the large look > > (poorly) animated by someone's hand, probably he's trying to aim the camera > > and move the disk at the same time. > > I don't see the hand. Maybe he's using fishing line

RE: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The battery is puzzling, but they do not hide it, so I do not see how > it could be part of a scam. Buy lots of Magniwork kits. After all, they promise a refund, and that proves it cannot be a scam! :) But seriously, if scammers can find a way to mak

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread William Beaty
The "missing honesty" phenomenon On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I would like to caution readers that this argument by Stephen A. Lawrence is > logically invalid: > > Looking like a scammer is not good when you're trying to lure investors. > > > > Really talented con men show you ev

RE: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > If it can be shown conclusively that the battery is connected only to > the control electronics, Why mess with such complexity? Just put a stupid frikn supercap in there, and measure the voltage. Here, I have five different kinds in a box here. Two mi

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > > In fact they claimed this back before their earlier demo, which was > supposed to show just such a motor, if I recall correctly; however, it > didn't. We expected them to finally at long last prove in a simple manner that the device is real. We

[Vo]:Charging to "get a look"

2009-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > They are charging for getting a look at the technology, and, I'm > sure, this comes with heavy NDAs, Hey. Is "charging to get a look at technology" a dead givaway for an FE con game? In other words, what other companies let individuals get a loo

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > It reminds me a little of the situation with airplanes from 1905 to > 1908. Was flying machine plagued constantly by con artists taking money from enormous numbers of people? I.e. was it akin to lead-into-gold alchemist research, or known-shady used car

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Demo

2009-12-17 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Needless to say, incompetent and dishonest people have caused much > harm in over-unity energy research, cold fusion and related fields. > It is not fair to hold Prof. A at fault because Prof. B makes a dumb > mistake, but people tend to tar them with the

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-28 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Esa Ruoho wrote: a friend helped translate this, off we go Excellent, many thanks for the xlation Recall that the magnetic field on the outside of a toroidal coil is null and simulates that of a coil of infinite length.* Wrong. wrongwrongwrong. The bfield outside an

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-28 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009, Harry Veeder wrote: Terry, Look at test 3 at the bottom of this page http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/index.htm "No induction and no back emf if the motor is turned by hand" faulty metering or is it truly new physics? Perhaps this was their initial discovery? If so, it

RE: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-28 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: The current necessary for the temporary depolarization of the magnetic domains of the ferrite is independent of the mechanical coupling produced on the shaft of the motor. I wonder how much energy is consumed manifesting the tempo

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-29 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: But there is the tantalizing middle. They find that they "almost" close the loop. You're giving them the benefit of the doubt. Count how many times you have to do that! It's very telling. Their acting very Newman-esque and using a battery?

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication

2009-12-31 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote: When the power to the controller is switched off, no induction is measured in the stator coils. Why? Isn't this how a generator works? Ferromagnetic materials are nonlinear. If their operation is kept well below the saturation region, then yes, a moto

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication

2010-01-01 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Harry Veeder wrote: billb wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote: > By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction, > and hence, electricity? Not in a toroid inductor with unsaturated core. The ring-shape core will shield the inductor agains

Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication

2010-01-01 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: So the problem I had is failure to properly picture a non-uniform magnetic field. Or, from practical experience with inductors, I could imagine noticing the effects of saturation, but ascribing the cause to nonuniform fields! :) First, let me

[Vo]:test

2010-01-11 Thread William Beaty
test (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-76

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-12 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Certainly if a motor were demonstrated which genuinely converted the field of the permanent magnets into kinetic energy, while "draining" their magnetism, it would be nearly as remarkable as a true OU motor. NIB supermagnets can be demagnetized b

[Vo]:Capacitors for Steorn

2010-01-15 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Terry Blanton wrote: I seriously doubt it since the statement is false. IIRC, he said that the capacitor was too slow in current delivery. Actually, the Well, that's true of supercapacitors. They take seconds to discharge during a direct short, not microseconds. So if

Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of steorn talk#2 demo-rig

2010-01-15 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: They are selling mystery. Call it entertainment. Have a few hundred dollars If Steorn was an old prospector in a southwestern tavern, he'd be selling pieces of his treasure map to the marks. (And everyone gets the same piece, of course!) But

Re: [Vo]:Capacitors for Steorn

2010-01-15 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Michel Jullian wrote: However, if their claim is that they produce more heat than they consume electrical power as Harry said (some form of heat pump maybe?), then the capacitor voltage could drop even if their claim was valid couldn't it? Then it's a scam, since that woul

Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-15 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > We got energy out in B-1 which we didn't get out in A-1, yet we put the > same amount of electrical energy into the system in steps B1-B3 as we > did in steps A1-A3. Where'd that energy come from? This is the Steorn > Mystery. Now we're on the s

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote: If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum or I would have said the same thing about Joe Newman, and about the MRA device in 1995. And about the SMOT device a couple years later. And the Russian water vortex heater. And th

Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Harry Veeder wrote: time with possibly self-deceiving measurements. Since your net output power is apparently so large, GO AND CLOSE THE LOOP. You haven't bothered to try closing the loop? Then you're just fooling yourself. Please shut up and stop bothering everyone."

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote: Thanks Michel! I'll repost with a link or smaller pic... I just upped the limit to 60K. I notice that some members' headers have grown to about 10K of text! (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. Beaty

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote: If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum or Overunity.com, as guessing and speculating and accusing here, you just might have a different opinion. Part of my bad opinion comes from Steorn keeping everything secret, yet then

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote: I don't believe any one here criticising Steorn and calling them scammers has made an attempt to replicate their device... Correct me if I'm wrong. What is the website link for complete Orbo details? Just sit back and relax, and watch and read, and in

RE: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

2010-01-16 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote: There are MANY things that Steorn is doing that is quite different from scammers: 1) They SPECIFICALLY laid out EXACTLY how they were going to proceed to demonstrate their technology 2) They have followed that plan, with one minor delay due to very bad w

[Vo]:Carl Tilly's investors sue, win $26M

2010-01-20 Thread William Beaty
Remember the Tilley Electric Vehicle? (Delorean driving around a circular course) Jerry Decker just passed this around: (original requires subscription) http://www.keelynet.com/tilley26m.pdf http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2010/1/19/investors_win_26m_award_against_alleged_scam_artist ht

[Vo]:billb bought no SMOTseses

2012-01-20 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Jones Beene wrote: He did repay a few carefully selected purchasers on vortex, including our moderator Bill, Nope, I never was interested, other than to buy $10 of used mouseballs and a length of small-gauge train track. My personal policy is, when playing with FE/OU, th

Re: [Vo]:Keef Versus Greg Watson

2012-01-20 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: So, he was clearly a bald face liar, asking people for money for something he certainly knew he didn't have. To suggest that we welcome him back to the list, after he stole money from list members, would be outrageous. (I'm not sure anyone actua

[Vo]:VORTEX RULES

2012-01-23 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Shaun Taylor wrote: Oh so now Vortex is only a PRO Rossi discussion group? Yes. Exactly. Now you're getting it. What part of BIG NASTY NEST OF 'TRUE BELIEVERS' didn't you understand? You apparently haven't read the forum rules. Is there ANY reason I shouldn't ban you

Re: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group

2012-01-23 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Mary Yugo wrote: It is absolutely inane to ask critics to "read the literature". You think we have nothing better to do than to spend time with unlimited quantities of inadequate and difficult to understand papers? Certainty that LENR critics should be ignorant of LENR e

Re: [Vo]:Opponents should please go away and form your own group

2012-01-23 Thread William Beaty
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Dusty Bradshaw wrote: Some of us doubters would rather unsubscribe but since this is like Hotel California, welp.. Also, didn't know this was a religion here, worshipping at the altar of fringe science? Is this a cult or science, and where can I get off this train? How a

[Vo]:REMOVING RULE2 VIOLATORS, 'subscribe' blocked.

2012-01-23 Thread William Beaty
Vtx thoughtcriminals. "Scoffing" and anti-fringe behavior, but didn't leave in disgust as suggested. Ungood! Time for Periodic Cleansing. removed: "Mary" "Yugo" effwivakeef Dusty Bradshaw Shaun Taylor Vortex traffic temporarily suspended. Getting everyone's attention. I'll leave

Re: [Vo]:REMOVING RULE2 VIOLATORS, 'subscribe' blocked.

2012-01-23 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, William Beaty wrote: Vortex traffic temporarily suspended. Getting everyone's attention. OK, back on. I'll leave "subscribe" turned off for weeks/months, "unsubscribe" remains active. Email me dire

[Vo]:Ball Lightning 2012: call for papers

2012-01-29 Thread William Beaty
(( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-762-38

Re: [Vo]:What Bill B. said, to the second power

2012-02-02 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012, Randy Wuller wrote: This post prompted a reply from Maryugo. Since MY is banned here and at the Defkalion site and since I converse with MY (by email) occasionally, she sent me her reply to Bill Beaty which I presume he received and did not elect to post. Yourself or "M

Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-02 Thread William Beaty
A couple of "Free Energy" prizes exist. How about a prize for an elegant fake FE machine? No batteries or ext. power source, that's no fun. For example, suppose you could build one of these youtube magnet motors which actually accelerated and ran by itself ...but its magnets became weaker

Re: [Vo]:Magnet Motor Video..Hmmmmm????? 267,500 hits- goes Viral.

2012-02-03 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Harry Veeder wrote: If theory predicted that it should run for x hours but instead ran much longer would it qualify as a true FE device? If it runs far longer ...then it merely supplies a more precise method for measuring the actual energy provided by your magnets! :) "Ex

Re: [Vo]:

2012-03-04 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 3 Mar 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: I have forwarded it to the list owner requesting that he nuke 'em. Nuked. This was a first for vortex. I think the closest we've ever had to spammers was that eximcon guy from Inda selling lab glassware (takes your money, never ships anything, had r

Re: [Vo]:BRUSH UP ON BASICS

2012-03-21 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, integral.property.serv...@gmail.com wrote: Found this more suitable for spare time than videos or games: http://hydride.has.it/ Nice, but arrg, powerpoint. No PDF vers. For real fun we can go argue about amateur breakthrough hoax videos. DWFTTW is old, so now it's batte

Re: [Vo]:BRUSH UP ON BASICS

2012-03-24 Thread William Beaty
today if the Wright Brothers weren't forced to take their demo show to France in order to attract the press. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:02 PM, William Beaty wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, integral.property.serv...@gmail.com wrote: Found this more suitable for spare time than videos or gam

[Vo]:Flying electrostatic antennas

2012-04-03 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2122762/Airborne-power-generator-produce-energy-1-000-feet.html How 'bout this one, no wind needed! :) Tethered km-high balloon, DC electrostatic collector http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNjmjMNqLCo

Re: [Vo]:Flying electrostatic antennas

2012-04-04 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: What is the Vret path on this sky battery? It's mostly from thunderstorms: lightning and neg-charged rain. Conventional theory of the "Earth Global Circuit" has thunderstorms as electrostatic generators which on average deliver neg. charge downwards

[Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-13 Thread William Beaty
Interesting thread going on in SED newsgroup... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_thread/thread/d99b2b7ad28787ba# Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design, sci.physics From: Jan Panteltje Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:38:32 GMT Local: Tues, Mar 20 2012 5:38 am Subject: How abo

RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-19 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: It is also well established that the intent and expectation of the experimenter can influence radioactive decay, so it would be difficult to separate that out from the other possible influences. Since the research community assumes half-lives to b

Re: [Vo]:What is this?

2012-04-19 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: Every time I post to Vortex-l I receive this immediately from Russia: Do you know what it's about? Header follows: Delivered-To: hoyt.stea...@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.118.134 with SMTP id v6csp307779vcq; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:44:09 -0700

Re: [Vo]:Can a Box Fly?

2012-04-25 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: This one does by turning inside out: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2012/04/flying-object-propels-itself-by-flipping-inside-out.html?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2012-2304-GLOBAL|flyingobjects&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS&utm_content=flyingobjects It flies

[Vo]:test, ignore

2012-04-29 Thread William Beaty
yet another test

[Vo]:vortex-L alive again

2012-04-29 Thread William Beaty
Ignore the below, vortex-L is working again. On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, William Beaty wrote: DOH, this ancient FREENRG-L list still seems to be working. I wish I'd remembered to check this sooner. I moved all vortex-L subscribers here temporarily until Eskimo sorts itself out. For vor

Re: [Vo]:vortex-L alive again

2012-04-30 Thread William Beaty
Rest of the story: apparently it was a bug turned up by long-overdue updating of internal security on eskimo.com. Group permissions of certain smartlist directories (including vortex) were accidently changed. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J.

RE: [Vo]:~Norway proof of concept/Man-made Man-played~

2010-09-27 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR If you don't cough up the details we won't get paid. And I for one do not want to be unemployed. No worries, a quick secure-satphone call to the Tesla pulsed-xray wavecomplex-emitting global satellite

Warning S. P. Tuteja: spammer, fraud too. Re: [Vo]:Test Mail

2010-11-18 Thread William Beaty
Thanks. Yes, "Scientific Glass Works of India" is a known fraud and prolific spammer (in fact repeatedly blocked on vortex under many changing email aliases. This is yet a new attempt.) Besides the spam, he ripped off a colleague. See warning: http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~lfh25/ Suraj

Re: [Vo]:we need an ultrasimple example

2010-11-30 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, francis wrote: Some ideas - I recently saw a demonstration of paramagnetism where rare earth magnets are dropped down a copper tube and fall very slowly due to the Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrw-i5Ku0mI That's the copper tube and neo supermagnet I was se

[Vo]:Nasa announce: astrobio discovery

2010-11-30 Thread William Beaty
NASA news conference, Thursday morn Dec 2 http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2010/M10-110.html (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. Beatyhttp://staff.washington.edu/wbeaty/ beaty, chem washington edu Research Eng

Re: [Vo]:Nasa announce: astrobio discovery

2010-12-02 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is exciting! It has to be something about extraterrestrial life, given the lineup of people making presentations. Whatever it is, I expect the Drake equation values will increase. doh. Broken embargo: Since Mars has Methane, and since methane can

[Vo]:Call for papers: 2nd ISNPEDADM Conf.

2011-01-12 Thread William Beaty
Here's an upcoming conference on "New electrical technologies for environment." Looks like green electrostatics/plasma research. Abstracts deadline Apr 30th website http://lea.sp2mi.univ-poitiers.fr/noumeameeting/ Google maps (Aust NZ area) http://goo.gl/Ce4WA (

Re: [Vo]:OT: Why we have to teleport disbelief

2011-01-13 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Harry Veeder wrote: Why we have to teleport disbelief http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20927951.900-why-we-have-to-teleport-disbelief.html Also see: http://amasci.com/freenrg/digibio.html Jan 2009 Electromagnetic Signals Are Produced by Aqueous Nanostructure

Re: [Vo]:OT: Why we have to teleport disbelief

2011-01-13 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, William Beaty wrote: He discovered the Benveniste "digibio" experiment, but using 7Hz sine rather than white noise in his coils. Put DNA in one sample tube, hold it near a second one with 7Hz AC, then dump in some nucleic acid and enzymes in the (water only) s

RE: [Vo]:EETIMES publishes report

2011-01-25 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Mark Iverson wrote: and he has also related to me that on more than one occasion, the 'firing' of the Z-pinch machine has resulted in anomalous energy that could not be explained, and instruments all seemed to be working properly... don't think they ever tracked it down si

[Vo]:FEW HOURS LEFT, OPTICS SURPLUS JUNK 30% Off Sale (fwd)

2011-01-27 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, G Shepherd wrote: > This is a source of some very good deals on items not even listed in many > physics equipment resources. I got some 4-5" lenses from them one time that > are hard to find. Their stock changes somewhat but is always interesting to > look through even if they

Re: [Vo]:Abd being censured?

2011-02-22 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Horace Heffner wrote: I have seen responses to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax in my vortex-l email, but have seen no original email from him since 26 Jan, 2011. I just discovered that I can see that he is posting if I go to the archives at: Might be eskimo.com recent crash. Or bei

Re: [Vo]:ChatGPT vs L. Ron Hubbard

2023-05-02 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 2 May 2023, Terry Blanton wrote: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12038355/ChatGPT-create-new -religion-writing-sacred-texts-historian-claims.html A Turing-tested "Chinese Room?" L. Ron Cupboard! (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))

[Vo]:test

2019-05-09 Thread William Beaty
test

[Vo]:test2

2019-05-09 Thread William Beaty
test -- ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ) William J. Beatyhttp://staff.washington.edu/wbeaty/ wbeaty, uw edu Research Engineer billb, amasci com UW Chem Dept, Bagley Hall RM74 206-543-6195Box 351700, Seattle, WA

[Vo]:are smartlists working? vortex-L test

2019-08-15 Thread William Beaty
test (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-

[Vo]:alive

2019-10-15 Thread William Beaty
Alive again, after a massive security-updating across multiple local serviers broke various things. On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Terry Blanton wrote: Watch out where the huskies go And don't you eat that yellow snow. We're NOT IN ALASKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-h-reTUNk (That was shot b

RE: [Vo]:are smartlists working? vortex-L test

2019-12-08 Thread William Beaty
Wow, for a second I thought I was in a time warp! No, THIS is a timewarp. 1986 MTV video: Reich Cloudbuster (Kate Bush) https://youtu.be/pllRW9wETzw https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/27217/1/the-story-behind-kate-bush-s-cloudbusting-video BTW "Smartlists" are unix email li

Re: [Vo]:are smartlists working? vortex-L test

2019-12-09 Thread William Beaty
noffs. Un-weaponize! We beat our deathrays into ploughshares. On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:16 PM William Beaty wrote: Currently looking for $2M-$3M investments to develop an odd device. I could think'a things I'd never thunk before, And then I'd sit and think some more! &qu

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