Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2014-2015 now on-wiki

2016-06-28 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 10:09 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On 5 Jun 2016 05:19, "Greg Varnum" wrote: >> >> >> John asked about filing and other fees paid by Jones Day, and if the fees >> were separate from consulting costs. Unfortunately, we don’t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is a matter of perspective. The persistence of the current talk system makes for hardly readable discourse. So please continue with what is good for some and not so much for others. Thanks, GerardM On 28 June 2016 at 18:27, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

2016-06-28 Thread attolippip
Dear Chris, A quick answer: Yes, all Board Committees have been updated. I guess it just takes some time to update the pages with all the changes :) Best regards, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv 2016-06-28 23:48 GMT+03:00 Chris Keating : > Thanks Christophe! > > Just a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Damage compensation to photographer for violation of license of a photo taken from Commons

2016-06-28 Thread Lodewijk
lol, I thought you were talking about another 'event' until I saw the link... (A) Lodewijk 2016-06-28 16:51 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni : > Hi, > > Last week a small case of copyright violation come to a positive > conclusion. > > Niccolò Caranti [[User:Jaqen]] is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Adele Vrana
Hi Milos and everyone. I just want to quickly add that in addition to the New Readers research project, the Global Reach team is also working to expand Wikimedia’s readership and awareness in India. We have contracted VotoMobile

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

2016-06-28 Thread Chris Keating
Thanks Christophe! Just a quick question... > > The HR committee[2] will work toward that end, and the Board as whole is > ready to take any steps necessary to provide her, and the staff, with the > best environment possible. > [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/HR_Committee Has the HR

[Wikimedia-l] The FDC's funding recommendation approved by the Board

2016-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear members of the Wikimedia community, On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to share the news that we have approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round 2 2015-2016 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants, as well as taken good note of the remarks and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

2016-06-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
Thanks Christophe. Looking forward to (collectively) work on the strategy. I personally welcome a quick and hopeful mail like this, and I'm quite happy about where we are right now. Aubrey On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Christophe Henner wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Àlex Hinojo
I completely agree with Amir. Wikipedia is an unachievable goal itself. And this is precisely what it takes us to do It. we have shown the world that only starting things, they move forward. Let's improve coverage, one edit at a time. As a tip: keep in mind other people's interests while

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

2016-06-28 Thread Cristian Consonni
2016-06-28 19:19 GMT+02:00 Christophe Henner : > The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees met in Esino Lario during > Wikimania. The minutes will be published in the coming days, but we deemed > it too important to wait to share the outcome of this really great meeting.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-28 Thread Henning Schlottmann
On 25.06.2016 17:15, James Forrester wrote: > On 23 June 2016 at 17:01, Pine W wrote: > >> 1. Is Flow feature development still frozen? If and when would Flow feature >> development resume? >> > > ​Yes, principal development is frozen. Like with all production software, >

[Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

2016-06-28 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi Everyone, The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees met in Esino Lario during Wikimania. The minutes will be published in the coming days, but we deemed it too important to wait to share the outcome of this really great meeting. During the meeting, the Board felt that it was important to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I am quite amused; it doesn't happen to me much that people take so much care to protect my privacy. I do appreciate it, though. In case nobody guessed it, I am (probably) "Mr. Western Wikipedian". The language gap in Wikipedias has always concerned me since the very first day I tried editing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Damage compensation to photographer for violation of license of a photo taken from Commons

2016-06-28 Thread Erlend Bjørtvedt
Interesting. I have personally experienced the same kind of violtion of rights many times from media and other professional authors, and I have several times asked for compensation which they have always granted. This includes large national media and the state broadcaster. I have usually claimed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > In other words, although I am not disclosing all of information I > have, mostly to protect privacy of some people, Yes, this is a difficult line to walk. I have encountered this issue many times in the Wikimedia world.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Southwood
What we've got here is a failure to communicate. -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Milos Rancic Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2016 8:43 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India My last mail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
My last mail for today, so Anne, just to say that I really appreciate what you've done, but I'll comment in a bit more detail tomorrow. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > I'll leave the "defensive" bit aside, and just reiterate that I *still* do > not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Pete Forsyth > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Milos Rancic > wrote: > >> > >> On the rest: being defensive is not useful; being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What I know is that in India Wikisource has proven to be very effective and important to promote the use of local languages. As a member of the language committee I am in favour to have a Wikisource almost as easily as a Wikipedia. The one thing that the WMF fails to do is support the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Anne Gomez
Hey Milos, Just wanted to let you know about the research that just wrapped up in India as a part of the New Readers project [1]. A team of staff and external researchers actually spent the last couple of weeks in Delhi and Chennai gathering data in India through intensive on-the-ground

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> On the rest: being defensive is not useful; being constructive is. >> > > I don't see anything in this thread that looks defensive; what I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > On the rest: being defensive is not useful; being constructive is. > I don't see anything in this thread that looks defensive; what I see (and thoroughly agree with) is a request to more clearly define the problem. I'd

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Damage compensation to photographer for violation of license of a photo taken from Commons

2016-06-28 Thread Sydney Poore
Thank you for the information about this case. It is good to see it worked out to all satisfaction. Sydney On Jun 28, 2016 10:52 AM, "Cristian Consonni" wrote: > Hi, > > Last week a small case of copyright violation come to a positive > conclusion. > > Niccolò Caranti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > (Are "the lower classes" from Serbia represented in Wikimania?) While I could complain about a number things to WMRS, this is an obvious exception. Two of three Wikimedians funded by WMRS actually belong to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Tito Dutta
> lack of representation of the "lower > ​ ​ > classes" from India in Wikimania > - ​ This is also not very clear to me. (All my comments here are personal)​ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Governance Committee update

2016-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Sydney Poore wrote: > With the growth in new methods and processes is the Board planning to have > a method to monitor/measure the success of these activities? > in fact, we have discussed a public "to-do" tracking system, but we are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Risker
On 28 June 2016 at 12:24, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Risker wrote: > > Milos, I read the points you are making in your initial post, and I > cannot > > tell what actions you are seeking. I am not even really clear on what >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > Anders, we've been asked for help at least twice that I know, as I can > witness for those two times. The first time I thought it will be > solved, but it hasn't been solved after two years. Plus, a couple of > previous

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On Trump supporters (was: Our problem with India)

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: > I suggest that we just drop the Trump tangent from the discussion, as > it is a distraction. I am sure the politically correct word for that population would be eventually found and I definitely support the usage of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On Trump supporters (was: Our problem with India)

2016-06-28 Thread Newyorkbrad
I suggest that we just drop the Trump tangent from the discussion, as it is a distraction. Newyorkbrad On 6/28/16, Milos Rancic wrote: > Moving this issue out of the thread about India, as it doesn't belong to it. > > It seems that my explanation of explanation was not quite

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Risker wrote: > Milos, I read the points you are making in your initial post, and I cannot > tell what actions you are seeking. I am not even really clear on what the > problem is that you are "reporting". The best I can make of it is that

[Wikimedia-l] On Trump supporters (was: Our problem with India)

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
Moving this issue out of the thread about India, as it doesn't belong to it. It seems that my explanation of explanation was not quite useful. Just the last paragraph was a satire and I've got complaint that satirically playing with the racist stereotypes could seem racist. That was the target of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board Governance Committee update

2016-06-28 Thread Sydney Poore
Hello Dariusz, Thank you for the time that you are sending working on the Governance Committee. I appreciate this email that shares your progress and future plans. Many of the ideas sound helpful and effective to address some long term problems. With the growth in new methods and processes is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Risker
Milos, I read the points you are making in your initial post, and I cannot tell what actions you are seeking. I am not even really clear on what the problem is that you are "reporting". The best I can make of it is that you don't think there are enough articles in the Wikipedias of the languages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Anders Wennersten wrote: > I have been active in FDC and followed closely all applicants. It works very > well when it comes to promote small affiliates to grow in a controlled way > and ensuring that money is spent wisely. The FDC,

[Wikimedia-l] Damage compensation to photographer for violation of license of a photo taken from Commons

2016-06-28 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi, Last week a small case of copyright violation come to a positive conclusion. Niccolò Caranti [[User:Jaqen]] is a Wikipedian and as a professional photographer also a very prolific Commons contributor to the point that he is a sysop both on itwiki and Commons. He recently discovered that one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Anders Wennersten
I have been active in FDC and followed closely all applicants. It works very well when it comes to promote small affiliates to grow in a controlled way and ensuring that money is spent wisely. The FDC, though, demand an elaborate plan, and application, which can be (too) hard as a first step

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Southwood
Your skills at satire do not work for me. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Milos Rancic Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2016 1:28 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India On Jun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Peter Southwood
Still not clear. Why? -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Milos Rancic Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2016 1:28 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India On Jun 28, 2016 09:58, "Milos Rancic"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
And it seems I need one more note: The last sentence was satirical. On Jun 28, 2016 13:27, "Milos Rancic" wrote: > On Jun 28, 2016 09:58, "Milos Rancic" wrote: > > > > (Hint for American > > Wikimedians: Trump supporters are your next target for positive >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
On Jun 28, 2016 09:58, "Milos Rancic" wrote: > > (Hint for American > Wikimedians: Trump supporters are your next target for positive > discrimination.) It seems I have to clarify this sentence. I didn't say Trump, I didn't say Cruz, I didn't say Cruz supporters, I said Trump

[Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

2016-06-28 Thread Milos Rancic
Whenever a serious problem raises and after years of hesitation I finally realize that I have to speak about it publicly, I have a drive to drink some rakija, feel good and forget all of the stress the new issue would give to me. But this is very important and we have to start talking about it.