Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hi Seddon, Thanks for this summary of the issues. Streamlining and standardizing trademark agreements with affiliates for branded merch production would be great. Even supposing that the US affiliates went to the trouble of opening a collective merch store, the production and shipping costs for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hey John et. al Apologies for the delaying in responding to the last few emails. I want to try and cover a couple of the points that been raised. I'll first start with the history. I am very much aware of the background surrounding merchandise, in particular the chapters and the changes in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Thanks SJ. I largely agree with you there. There is a complicated backstory about the hats, but I think it's safe to say that we in Cascadia aren't especially interested in running our own merch store. However, given the years of delays of getting the hats into the WMF store, it would be nice if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:07 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > > Again as I recall, many chapters tried to negotiate amendments to that > prohibition, and I vaguely recall the French chapter being successful, > and I vaguely recall the Italian chapter being unsuccessful. > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Fascinating. My discussions with WMF Trademarks and WMF Fundraising lead me to think that they didn't know of the existence of these historical arrangements, because if they had I would think that they would have swiftly approved the license request for logo use on hats, modeled after the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Sam Klein wrote: >.. > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:07 PM, John Mark Vandenberg > wrote: > >> >> IIRC, there were several affiliates that were previously running a >> store, and naturally supporting the most relevant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hi Fae, Apologies for the length. I'll take your question into two parts: Firstly about how we use the funds. We are extremely explicit about how the proceeds are used: On the front of the store: *"We use the proceeds from the store to send thank you gifts to the volunteers who make Wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

The current practice, in my experience, is maximum red tape. Pine On Mar 22, 2016 10:52, "Sam Klein" wrote: > Having a shop that is run with low overhead by someone who specializes in > handling inventory and shipping, is a very good idea. I've had to do this > both

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Having a shop that is run with low overhead by someone who specializes in handling inventory and shipping, is a very good idea. I've had to do this both in-house and externally at a few organizations and when your shipping volume is as low as the WM Shop's currently is, it doesn't make sense to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

I am having a very stretched out discussion, over the course literally of multiple years, to try to get approval from WMF to produce or aquire Wikipedia-branded hats. So far no trademark license has been granted. I have heard multiple times that the WMF store may get these hats, but after multiple

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Nathan wrote: > FWIW, it's clear that the trademark policy is intended to apply to users > other than the WMF. This is all a bit overblown, considering the tiny scale > of use and money involved. IIRC, there were several affiliates that were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

FWIW, it's clear that the trademark policy is intended to apply to users other than the WMF. This is all a bit overblown, considering the tiny scale of use and money involved. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Fæ wrote: > Tim, thanks for raising the Trademark Policy. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Tim, thanks for raising the Trademark Policy. Joseph, can you point me to where https://store.wikimedia.org explains exactly how much of the "donation" is profit going to WMF funds and how much is administration and costs (both supplier and WMF costs of administration)? My assumption is that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Hoi, With the same pragmatism a different scenario. If say a $20,- donation arrives and a T-shirt is send, * $12 basic transaction and product costs * $12 pro rata costs of having our "own" product to sell produce * 1,80 WMF administration costs * $5,80 loss on every T-shirt Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Fæ wrote: >>> (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the >>> shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) >> Expensive? The profit adds funds the WMF, surely. > This is a logical fallacy that many charities fall into, and end up > damaging

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 22 March 2016 at 11:51, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 21/03/16 19:39, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: >> (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the >> shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) > > > Expensive? The profit adds funds the WMF,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 21/03/16 19:39, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: > (I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the > shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) Expensive? The profit adds funds the WMF, surely. Gordo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:57 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > On 21 March 2016 at 22:47, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > > > The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off > services > > that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 21 March 2016 at 22:47, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off services > that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a shop would be, > like the blog, OTRS, etc) tend to be *extremely* expensive and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, > the > > > shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) > > > > > > I agree with other users that the shop schould be hosted on wikimedia > > > servers. > > > > > > --Steinsplitter > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

the product was fine, the > > shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) > > > > I agree with other users that the shop schould be hosted on wikimedia > > servers. > > > > --Steinsplitter > > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:41:46 +0100 > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

ipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.) > > I agree with other users that the shop schould be hosted on wikimedia > servers. > > --Steinsplitter > > > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:41:46 +0100 > > From: rupert.thur...@gmail.com > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:41:46 +0100 > > From: rupert.thur...@gmail.com > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ? > > > > How many orders are handled by this shop? > > > > Rupert > > On Mar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

; From: rupert.thur...@gmail.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ? > > How many orders are handled by this shop? > > Rupert > On Mar 21, 2016 17:32, "Joseph Seddon" <jsed...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

I don't have numbers of orders to hand but revenue projections for the store can be seen on Slide 12 here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/WMF_Advancement_and_Fundraising_Tech_quarterly_review_-_Q2_FY2015-16.pdf FY 15/16 Projections: Gross Revenue: $74,383.34 Net Revenue:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

How many orders are handled by this shop? Rupert On Mar 21, 2016 17:32, "Joseph Seddon" wrote: > In an ideal world then I would definitely be pushing for a fully wikimedia > hosted online shop. I completely agree with the principles you've raised. > But moving in-house

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

In an ideal world then I would definitely be pushing for a fully wikimedia hosted online shop. I completely agree with the principles you've raised. But moving in-house would require resources for building and maintaining an ecommerce workflow that I don't think we collectively can justify. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

What your saying makes sense. I'll take a look into this Jon and get back to you as soon as I can. Seddon On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hey Florence, > > Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but > hosted by Shopify,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto: >> >> On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: >>> >>> As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a >>> FOSS-friendly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hey Florence, > > Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but > hosted by Shopify, an e-commerce provider. [1] The orders are then sent to > our fulfillment partner, SWAGBOT. [2] That it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 2016-03-21 8:34 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: And yes, it'd be nice if the server side was under WMF's control too! Yes, and no. The extra control is hypothetically nice, but in practice one-off services that are different from the rest of the infrastructure (as a shop would be, like the blog,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto: On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does contribute to FLOSS themselves (mostly in the Ruby and Go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for a FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_merchandise#Shopify.3F Il 21/03/2016 11:28, Joseph Seddon ha scritto: Hey Florence, Regarding your first question the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Thank you I sent you a private email. Flo Le 21/03/16 11:28, Joseph Seddon a écrit : Hey Florence, Regarding your first question the shop is Foundation owned and run but hosted by Shopify, an e-commerce provider. [1] The orders are then sent to our fulfillment partner, SWAGBOT. [2] We have a

[Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?

Is that directly run by Wikimedia Foundation staff or is that run by an independant company "paid" by WMF to manage the shop ? Who is behind the email address merchand...@wikimedia.org ? Thank you Florence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines