Congratulations on your new role Tim.
In all noise generated on this list by the bizzare detour into
Wikipediocracy last week, I was surprised that the other major announcement
- about the fundamental changes at WMDE (particularly regarding Pavel
Richter) - were not discussed at all. For such a
Hi, can someone with knowledge of WMF's thinking expand on this statement from
Lila?
Starting the process for our next strategic planning exercise, which will be
different from last time, and focused on improving our ability to react quickly
and adjust as necessary to opportunities and
Hi all,
This is a personal note to clarify a some questions that recently came up,
specifically in the context of my role as the incoming ED.
My partner Wil and I are partners in our private lives. We have always both
been extremely independent, and we respect that in each other. That said we
Am 28.05.2014 09:31 schrieb ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com:
Hi, can someone with knowledge of WMF's thinking expand on this statement
from Lila?
Starting the process for our next strategic planning exercise, which
will be different from last time, and focused on improving our ability to
Liam Wyatt, 28/05/2014 08:15:
I was surprised that the other major announcement
- about the fundamental changes at WMDE (particularly regarding Pavel
Richter) - were not discussed at all.
Do you mean you feel there was insufficient response to the
announcement? Maybe you should reply there.
Till now I had mixed feelings on the nature of Wikimedia Deutschland. On
the one hand, I was (and I am) very thankful for creating one of the
projects I'm active with, Wikidata, and supporting the one I most attached
to, Wikisource. On the other hand, I was wary of its professionalization
process
This is great, Micru! A very warm welcome, and thanks for the trust
you're putting in WMDE!
Best,
Markus
Am 28.05.2014 10:57, schrieb David Cuenca:
Till now I had mixed feelings on the nature of Wikimedia Deutschland. On
the one hand, I was (and I am) very thankful for creating one of the
+1
Great to hearing your experience. As being a new ED too (3 months now) I
can indentify myself with your experience: the first month is about
listening and getting to know :)
All the best for what is to come! Hope to meeting you asap!
Hugs from Argentina.
2014-05-28 2:48 GMT-03:00 Nurunnaby
On 28/05/2014, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote:
...
independent individual
able to speak with his own voice and ask his own questions. He does not
take direction from me. He will not work for the WMF or engage with the WMF
employees.
Thanks for making these distinctions. It is sad to
On 05/28/2014 08:59 AM, Fæ wrote:
A curiosity that only manifested
itself shortly after the public announcement of your employment by the
Foundation board.
In all fairness, Fæ, if my spouse had been hired as the leader of a very
visible and significant business or nonprofit, I too would find
Just a personal testimonial also to emphasize Marc's point and not
necessarily when I did a work for WMF as a contractor, my previous
girlfriend got interesting in Wikimedia projects after she saw somethings I
worked on my spare time as a volunteer. She even began to write at
Wikimedia Brasil
My wife, thanks to Viisual Editor, now creates pages!
On 28 May 2014 16:21, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
everton.alvare...@okfn.orgwrote:
Just a personal testimonial also to emphasize Marc's point and not
necessarily when I did a work for WMF as a contractor, my previous
girlfriend got
On 28 May 2014 15:04, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
...
So that Wil's interest manifested around the time Lila was announced as
the next ED seems to me to be perfectly natural, even if I have
expressed serious concerns about *how* that interest was expressed.
-- Marc
There is a
Welcome, Rachel. Congratulations on your new job!
Birgit
2014-05-28 2:26 GMT+02:00 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
Hi folks,
It’s my great pleasure to tell you that Rachel diCerbo is joining us
as Director of Community Engagement (Product), starting today. In this
role, Rachel will
My significant other applied for a grant and got 500 Wikireaders
distributed to 3 schools:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Aislinn_Dewey/Distribute_WikiReaders_to_Schools/Report
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-distribute-wikireaders-and-provide-an-opportunity-for-kids-to-learn
Hi Victor,
That's great. I can't see any complaints about WMF employees in the
links you provided.
I am sure that we could find 100 examples of the partners of
Wikimedians doing something on Wikimedia projects, it would be a great
topic for reasons why I love Wikimedia... That is not the issue
On 5/28/2014 5:59 AM, Fæ wrote:
On 28/05/2014, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote:
...
independent individual
able to speak with his own voice and ask his own questions. He does not
take direction from me. He will not work for the WMF or engage with the WMF
employees.
I do not really
Welcome Rachel!
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Birgit Müller
birgit.muel...@wikimedia.dewrote:
Welcome, Rachel. Congratulations on your new job!
Birgit
2014-05-28 2:26 GMT+02:00 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
Hi folks,
It’s my great pleasure to tell you that Rachel diCerbo is
On 28 May 2014 16:55, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote:
On 5/28/2014 5:59 AM, Fæ wrote:
...
I do not really understand the point being made about not engaging
...
I believe the point is that Wil, in particular, will not interfere with
Wikimedia staff in carrying out their duties,
Thanks Michael for spelling this out further. Your understanding is correct.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.comwrote:
On 5/28/2014 5:59 AM, Fæ wrote:
On 28/05/2014, Lila Tretikov l...@wikimedia.org wrote:
...
independent individual
able to speak with his
Hi Fae, if you're referring to the discussion on this page, then I
think I make it quite clear why I won't engage with WMF employees
going forward:
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14t=4680start=150.
To be sure, I'm not used to having anyone from Lila's team immediately
emailing
A slight correction: the revision was rev-deleted by a member of the community
- a member of ArbCom, in fact - and not an employee of the Foundation.
Snt frm m Phn
On May 28, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Hi Fae, if you're referring to the discussion on this page,
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote:
If those guidelines are respected, there should be no
problem about Wil interacting with staff in an ordinary fashion. I'm sure
Wil understands this and will be careful about it, and it's also good that
Lila has said
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
To be sure, I'm not used to having anyone from Lila's team immediately
emailing her through their official company addresses as soon as I ask
a question in a public forum. In this case, the WMF has made it quite
clear that the
Wil, the deletion log of the page in question is publicly visible. There
are no WMF employees who have deleted anything on that page, ever. This is
information you can check for yourself instead of relying on the words of
others.
Risker
On 28 May 2014 12:23, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
If you're talking about the message left on Oliver's talk page, it was
a threat by a banned user which included reference to a dream about
him where knees were nailed to the floor from the back and other
such lovely
Thanks, I wasn't aware I could do this. I'm assuming that it would be
obvious who was an employee at Wikimedia in the log, too. I posted the
following to Wikipediocracy a few minutes ago:
I may have misread which page the rev was on, or I misunderstood the
person who said s/he revdeleted it in
Welcome Rachel!
Erik (or someone else), is there a succinct description of the mission of
the Community Engagement and Community Advocacy departments, and/or
especially a summary of the difference between their roles? Your e-mail
from December included some of this information, I'm just curious
On May 28, 2014 7:09 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Thanks, I wasn't aware I could do this. I'm assuming that it would be
obvious who was an employee at Wikimedia in the log, too. I posted the
following to Wikipediocracy a few minutes ago:
I may have misread which page the rev was
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Thanks, I wasn't aware I could do this. I'm assuming that it would be
obvious who was an employee at Wikimedia in the log, too. I posted the
following to Wikipediocracy a few minutes ago:
I may have misread which page the
Hello everyone,
Please see below for the Wikimedia UK monthly report for April 2014. If you
prefer, the report can be read on wiki
herehttps://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Reports/2014/April
.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
Reports/2014/April
Below is the Wikimedia UK monthly
Wil, if you want to use email lists for your discussions, you may find a
better reception if you use one of the project- or task-specific lists.
There is a page on English Wikipedia with links to mailing lists that most
closely relate to that project[1] and a more extensive list at Meta that
Hi Nathan,
Succinctly, at a 30,000 foot level:
The Community Engagement team (staffed with Community Liaisons and the
Director of Community Engagement, Product) leads the efforts to engage the
community around the development and deployment of new tools and
product/features for the projects.
Perfect. Thanks as always Philippe for being awesome.
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Philippe Beaudette, 28/05/2014 19:27:
The descriptions of the work of each team can be found in more depth in the
appendix to WMF's FDC submission. [1].
Right, we did that last year. It occurred to me after I sent that that it
wasn't up to date on that section, but you're quite correct. That work has
now transitioned to the CE team :)
pb
*Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia
Foundation, Inc.
T: 1-415-839-6885
2014-05-28 7:42 GMT+02:00 Nurunnaby Chowdhury n...@nhasive.com:
Thanks everyone. Last day when this news published i receive lots of phone
call from our journalist friend. You know all journalist just check the
news media. Not check details issue.
This news found is way also on Italian media:
What I think is funny about this whole article and this email thread
is that the quality of Wikipedia is not brought into relation with
anything else. For example, I know that one of the main causes of
death in the Netherlands today has to do with improper dosages of
medicine, caused both by
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
What I think is funny about this whole article and this email thread
is that the quality of Wikipedia is not brought into relation with
anything else. For example, I know that one of the main causes of
death in the
Yes, that was mentioned on the Wikipediocracy thread, as well. I
apologize to that person and the WMF for my misunderstanding.
Other than establishing the fact that I wrongly stated that this
person is a WMF employee, the revdelete doesn't seem to warrant more
investigation according to existing
If people don't want me to discuss this here, of course we can take it
elsewhere.
I only reply to this publicly to suggest that you and others help me
out with that. For example, you have plenty of options beyond replying
list-wide to communicate the very thing you're telling me below. As
long as
Nathan, I was responding to Lila's note to clarify that I had made the
decision to not discuss anything privately with any WMF employee. The
IRC discussion was referenced by Fae, so I sent a link to the
discussion so everyone could see what he was talking about; I will
absolutely stand by my
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Nathan, I was responding to Lila's note to clarify that I had made the
decision to not discuss anything privately with any WMF employee. The
IRC discussion was referenced by Fae, so I sent a link to the
discussion so everyone
Wil Sinclair wllm@... writes:
Thanks, I wasn't aware I could do this. I'm assuming that it would be
obvious who was an employee at Wikimedia in the log, too.
Indeed you can. If you navigate to
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log and enter the title
of the page in the
Thank you for the explanations, Lila, Molly, and everyone else.
Wil, I happen to be waiting on an email right now so I have a few minutes to
spare. If you need clarification on anything that has been said in this
discussion I am happy to meet you on IRC or have a Skype conversation. I would
We are all interested in hearing all sides of every story here, aren't
we? I'm starting to get the feeling that there are things that some
people on this list don't want *anyone* to discuss.
Which things, and which people are you aiming at, particularly?
--Martijn
After all, you
could
Well, we were discussing IRC and my experience there in this thread,
and many people were asking me to wait. I find this interesting,
because some on Wikipediocracy also asked me to wait, with the
significant exception that this was to wait until I so something,
then come back. In this case, it
Martijn asked me which things I thought that some people on this list
don't want anyone to discuss, so here are the two examples that I'm
most interested in:
Child Protection- I'd like to hear about ways that policy might be
changed here to better protect children, especially given some of the
Wil, I have been following the conversation and I can feel your
good-hearted nature.
Please do not be offended when they say wait to you. They mean no harm to
you, just the opposite.
I know how frustrating it is to have to wait, because all of us have gone
through the same...
Just to give you an
Hi Will, we generally can find critics mainly from those who cannot
understand or do not have patience when newbies make mistakes. Obviously I
also have this problem sometimes (for this some ironic comments when I
suggested in a recent topic suggesting we should criticize more
Wil,
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
As you can see there is a lot of consternation being directed your
way, and at some stage, and this will teach you well for the future as
well, you have to learn to walk away from the keyboard. If you can't
do this, and I
I cannot believe I am saying this; but I totally agree with Russavia.
Wil; why not have a go contributing to some WP articles and seeing what
your experience is.
We have a comment statement that gets made on flame threads, which boils
down to isn't there an article you could be writing?
Tom
Thanks for all the pointers, Molly, and for disclosing that it was you
for the sake of adding a bit more info to the discussion; you haven't
done anything wrong as far as I know, and I didn't feel comfortable
mentioning your IRC nick in case there were any confusion. I simply
didn't get a chance
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
I'd also like to hear about specific examples of
content on Commons that a parent might not find appropriate for their
children.
Wil and all,
Note that all the links I am posting below are NSFW.
1.
The other day I found
Wil Sinclair wllm@... writes:
I've apologized to you here and on Wikipediocracy, but apologies are
always worth doing directly and for as many to see as possible: I'm
very sorry for mistaking you for a WMF employee. I take full
responsibility for my words and actions. I hope you can forgive
Child Protection- I'd like to hear about ways that policy might be
changed here to better protect children, especially given some of the
content on Commons. I'd also like to hear about specific examples of
content on Commons that a parent might not find appropriate for their
children. Note
Thank you, Federico and Jean-Frédéric. This is what I was looking for.
From: jeanfrederic.w...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:31:09 +0200
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Slide deck about Wikimedia?
Hello,
Hello, Where can I find recent presentations
Let's not focus on what others are doing wrong, but improve on what we may
be doing wrong - that's the only thing we have most influence on in
changing.
Are there spot checks by professionals in medicine, or ways to flag often-read
pages for peer review? That seems like a way that experts
It is great to hear how you are working to learn about the vast Wikimedia
community, its projects, its priorities and its challenges, Lila.
I'm thinking there's something else that all of us should help you
celebrate as well: after only a few weeks on the job, being named to the
Forbes list of
Hello Victor:
I continue to admire your persistence, and now it seems that of your
partner, to fully engage in the process of bringing your considerable
talent and seemingly boundless energy to making it possible for very
single human being to freely share in the sum of all knowledge.
It reminds
You might be interested in look at projects like
http://schools-wikipedia.org/ and other subset wikis. When I worked
at One Laptop per Child we distributed a offline Wikipedia slice along
with the XO-1 laptops to many schools and children. We were in fact
careful to curate our offline
Ah, this segues well into the email I was just drafting: I have to say that
I was surprised to see the contents of what appears to be an internal staff
email being brought up both on Wikipediocracy and here by a non-staff
member. Wil, can you clarify if you were copied on the email, and if
On 29 May 2014 07:13, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:
Child Protection- I'd like to hear about ways that policy might be
changed here to better protect children, especially given some of the
content on Commons. I'd also like to hear about specific examples of
content
Sorry, the n00b has to step in with a couple of clarifications. :) I
was asking about 2 separate issues, so no conflation there.
Also I asked very carefully for *all* sides of the issues: Now, I'll
just sit back and hear all sides of the story.
All right, back on topic! :)
,Wil
On Wed, May 28,
Dear Lila,
I think many of us are interested in how you will engage with the Wikimedia
community, what kind of outcomes you will seek, and what kind of tactics
you will employ in seeking those outcomes.
Can you please clarify whether you believe it is possible for somebody with
a close
On 28 May 2014 22:57, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Is this really the best way for the new Executive Director to be introduced
to the Wikimedia community and the world?
- *Wikipedia is lucky to have people like Greg [Kohs]; even if he
never directly contributes to WP
First off, I said that about Greg, and I firmly believe it. He's
uncovered many controversies at Wikipedia. In fact, his article was
the first to be critical of Lila's appointment, and- save the rather
petty comment about airline fees at the end- was pretty on-point. That
doesn't mean that I agree
Thank you, Risker -- we do have lots of work to do :)
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
It is great to hear how you are working to learn about the vast Wikimedia
community, its projects, its priorities and its challenges, Lila.
I'm thinking there's something
Wil, you are supporting a man that thought it was a hilarious joke to
call me a faggot. Not something that I am prepared to overlook, ever.
I now have serious reservations about Lila's good judgement in failing
to ensure you were appropriately advised, considering her critical
role in the
I don't think that it's meant to imply that the entire next strategic plan
will focus on agility, only that one of our strategic priorities is likely
to be building a greater capacity to rapidly react to unexpected
developments than we've had in the past. So - reacting quickly and
accurately when
Wil, we talked about this on IRC, so I won't repeat what I said. But what I
did *not* say is that the foundation tends to let the community do what it
wants, and it would be against that long-standing tradition for staff to
try to force a change in the community.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:18 PM,
Please raise and discuss questions about policy on meta. This is not the
place.
Regards,
Thyge
2014-05-28 23:54 GMT+02:00 Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com:
Sorry, the n00b has to step in with a couple of clarifications. :) I
was asking about 2 separate issues, so no conflation there.
Also I
I thought she did explain it. I act on my own behalf. I'm not
introducing Lila to anyone for any purpose. Man, I am getting tired of
writing that, and I can imagine that you're tired of reading it. We've
both already answered this question.
Everything I said about Greg there is true in *my*
I didn't know that he called you a faggot. Could you please show me where?
I mentioned I didn't agree with him on everything. I certainly would
*never* agree that a slur like that is justified, if he did make it.
In any case, the quote stands. Maybe we should start a separate thread
on the quote
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Martijn asked me which things I thought that some people on this list
don't want anyone to discuss, so here are the two examples that I'm
most interested in:
Child Protection- I'd like to hear about ways that policy might be
Wil, ask Kohs to repeat his filth. I'm not going to do it for him.
Fae
On 28 May 2014 23:37, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
I didn't know that he called you a faggot. Could you please show me where?
I mentioned I didn't agree with him on everything. I certainly would
*never* agree that a
Wil,
Have you been introduced to Jimmy Wales yet?
I'd be most interested for you to take your quote about Greg Kohs to
Jimmy on his talk page
(https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Walesaction=editsection=new)
and ask him if he would agree with you.
Also, please note that
Yes, we did talk on IRC. But what are you referring to? I wasn't
referring to you anywhere. I don't even remember talking about WMF's
role in the community. I guess if you have a log of that part of the
conversation, you should post it now. I may have a log in my own
client, if you don't mind my
I mean, you referred to Lila as a potential source of change in the
community's problems in your email right before mine on this thread. If you
meant the community of the wikis, I'm just saying that it wouldn't really
be kosher according to our current practices.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM,
All:
I don't know the first thing about the alleged safety concerns discussed on
IRC, but the following quote is troubling to me:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
She replied a WMF employee emailed me that there are safety
concerns,
It seems that Wil has
Greg, would you like to repeat your filth? He may need someone to post
it in surrogate, since I believe he said he's banned here.
,Wil
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Wil, ask Kohs to repeat his filth. I'm not going to do it for him.
Fae
On 28 May 2014 23:37, Wil
You *can't* be serious. Now I'm *really* starting to get the idea that
you guys just want to shut me up. And you're using the fact that I'm
actually being very open about something to justify it. This is
extremely worrying if everyone else on this list agrees with you.
,Wil
On Wed, May 28, 2014
Someone already mentioned me on his talk page, and I responded. Please
do paste that quote there if you think he'd be interested in it. I
know he and Greg have disagreed in the past; he may offer me a
different perspective on the matter. I'm interested in everyone's
perspective.
,Wil
On Wed, May
... I wish I kept more up to date on this set of threads and had stepped in
to say something sooner. I'm going to go ahead and say that I agree with
Pete that at this juncture the most beneficial course of action would
probably be for Wil to back this set of discussions for at least a few
days,
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:
This is no judgment on him as a person, but I do think
we need to protect this list from further flooding.
As a reminder, this list has an official soft limit of 30 posts per
individual/month, as stated on
I didn't really mention anything specifically, except a leader who
could change the concerning aspects of the WP community. It has been
WMF's stated goal to change things like the participation of women on
WP for years. I suppose it would be most accurate to say that I meant
the things that the
Wil: nothing anyone is saying here is aimed at discrediting you, you've
just jumped in to a field of landmines without a map, and we'd rather not
have you blow your legs off. I'll have a private email incoming to you as
fast as I can type it but given that the deputy director of the WMF and
If this list chooses to block me for any amount of time, it might as
well be forever. I'm responding to other people's mails here; I'd
prefer to mail less as well.
In any case, you'll be blocking someone for asking relevant questions
and replying to relevant concerns. I think that is pretty
Ive been watching this conversation and I have to agree with Will here. These
calls for banning/restriction of access to the list and admission that
Wikipedia is full of landmines is troubling. If we have such grave problems,
we should be confronting them. If Will is just stirring the pot,
Hi Erik, just for guidance here- should I not publicly respond to
those who have publicly address me or talked about my actions or words
directly?
You guys are moving in a *very* sketchy direction here. These mails
are archived; it will be quite clear what everyone said before I was
blocked if
It turns out that Lila is actually a perfect ED. Someone capable to handle
and love a person like Wil is -- should be quite competent in handling the
rest of the community :D
On May 29, 2014 1:21 AM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Hi Erik, just for guidance here- should I not publicly
I'm starting a thread with the correct title, so that everyone knows
that we're discussing whether I should be banned and for what reasons.
,Wil
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Wil I ask this as a serious, non-snarky question; have you stepped back for
a second and thought about your actions here.
Some responses have been a bit tough. But I don't think you've handled
yourself at all well.
Imagine, for example, I came into your place of work and started asking
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
Hi Erik, just for guidance here- should I not publicly respond to
those who have publicly address me or talked about my actions or words
directly?
Hey Wil,
Pick your battles, help keep the conversation manageable, exercise
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:31 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi, can someone with knowledge of WMF's thinking expand on this statement
from Lila?
Starting the process for our next strategic planning exercise, which will
be different from last time, and focused on improving our
On May 29, 2014 5:33 AM, Thyge ltl.pri...@gmail.com wrote:
Please raise and discuss questions about policy on meta. This is not the
place.
Regards,
Thyge
Wil, I suggest that you do go to http://meta.wikimedia.org and find pages
about these issues. *Read the archives of the talk pages*. And
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote:
I didn't know that he called you a faggot. Could you please show me
where?
That post was removed from view at the time (May 2012).
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3707#p3707
What Greg had said on WO was,
Stepping in to add another aspect to both questions, as I think it
might focus the discussion.
Child Protection: Are children encouraged to use commons through any
programs or outreach efforts of any kind? If so, is it morally and/or
ethically justifiable to do so without protecting children in
Hello all,
Lila: Thank you kindly for these recent notes. It is wonderful to
hear your thoughts on your first weeks.
Wil: Working through public, logged forums is a fine principle; one
that I try to follow myself. It helps avoid misunderstandings.
Pete Forsyth writes:
I'd like to suggest
Thanks for the note, Sam. Your advice to me is very wise. I've said
and seen about all that I want to, save one more post. You'll see it
in the next few minutes.
,Wil
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
Lila: Thank you kindly for these recent
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