[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia payroll and related (WAS: Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy)

Correction: The 2016 base salary figure for Lisa in my previous mail should have read $209,706, not $192,018. Andreas On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 1:55 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Chris, > > All the numbers are taken from the official Form 990s filed. You can > verify them for y

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia payroll and related (WAS: Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy)

lack of > empathy (you don't care about how people can live when their integrity is > attacked while they are committed). > > So I am happy to jump in Spreadsheet and discuss compensations, but if we > are to do it, let's at the very least do it with a benevolent approach a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia payroll and related (WAS: Re: Media coverage in Germany: Enterprise / Advocacy)

tion to WMF or any of these persons, for the record). > > Best > Yaroslav > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 1:45 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> Christophe, >> >> "First year" applies in Jaime Villagomez' case (who took over as CFO on >> Feb. 1, 2016). Th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Board statement endorsing community voting on the enforcement guidelines for Universal code of Conduct (UCoC)

profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns1=1&ns3=1&ns5=1&ns7=1&ns9=1&ns11=1&ns13=1&ns15=1&ns201=1&ns203=1&ns207=1&ns471=1&ns483=1&ns829=1&ns867=1&ns1199=1&ns2301=1&ns2303=1 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

d_Questions&diff=22851697&oldid=22849131 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-03-18/Op-ed [3] https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundraising/ [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27371849 On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 2:10 PM Andreas Kolbe

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

this topic, the Wikimedia Endowment, now well on its way > to the $200M mark, is completely non-transparent. It has no public records > and no audited accounts; people have no way of knowing how the money is > invested, what if anything it is spent on, how much Tides and other > consul

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

t; Indian affiliates and communities for future with that money as per > movement strategy recommendation. I think that would be far better an > option for us than to increase the number of growing WMF staffs in India or > pay them salary with that money. > > Regards, > Bodh

[Wikimedia-l] Re: WIKIMOVE - New Podcast on our Changing Movement

Dear all, If we really want to "critically question colonial and unequitable systems", maybe we should question the way Wikimedia has become an adjunct to US Big Tech, actively partnering with these firms to help them expand their inequitable and tax-evading business practices into less well-off c

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

Dear Maggie, Could I ask you for help with a couple of things: 1. The UCoC states that "sharing information concerning other contributors' Wikimedia activity outside the projects" is harassment. Is it really the WMF's intention to prohibit public discussions of controversial editing? To give some

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UCoC Phase 2 Ratification Results Announcement

prevented from inserting material without > maliciously causing them to doubt their own perceptions: [[WP:V]] and > [[WP:NPOV]] do not require malice in calling for consensus-defined reliable > sources and avoiding fringe material. That said, again, this strikes me as > a discussion

[Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Maryana Iskander

Frederick, The paragraph in your letter that resonated most with me was this one: (9) The Wikipedia movement also seems to be shifting away from its volunteer model. This is what gave it its strength and vitality. We seem to be moving to an NGO/funded or even corporate model of operations. Wikipe

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Next steps: Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) and UCoC Enforcement Guidelines

Dear Rosie, Could you kindly also look at and clarify the following passage in the Universal Code of Conduct: - *Disclosure of personal data (Doxing):* sharing other contributors' private information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address without their explicit co

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

Dear Dariusz, I am surprised your post has not attracted more attention. It's probably because you did not spell out what the adopted recommendation involves. It says (my emphases):[1] *The Board of Trustees wants to improve the set of skills and the diversity contributed by newly selected trust

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

Keating wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 1:32 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> Dear Dariusz, >> >> I am surprised your post has not attracted more attention. It's probably >> because you did not spell out what the adopted recommendation involves. It >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:40 AM Chris Keating wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:32 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> There is no longer any distinction between community and affiliate >> trustees. For reference, see the "Type of seat" column in the current board >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Next steps: Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) and UCoC Enforcement Guidelines

> Stella > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 11:02 PM Todd Allen wrote: > >> Actually, you're technically even breaching it saying it here, since the >> mailing list is "outside the Wikimedia projects". >> >> I would agree that this needs substantia

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

example I disagree with > the merge of the two types of seats because it might lead to some > functional results if correctly handled but for sure with the strong > ideological positions we face, it can only lead to more chaos. So far, I > might say that both processes might end u

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

gt; elections in the future. > > I realize it is difficult not to assume that we're secretly plotting to > take over the world, but the mundane reality is that much as we would love > to, we lack the bandwidth and to a large extent focus on things as they > come. > > best, >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Next steps: Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) and UCoC Enforcement Guidelines

; is the UCoC. If we look specifically at section 3.1, which is what doxxing >>> is nested under, what is important to note is context - specifically that >>> if the information is provided or the behavior is “*intended primarily* >>> to intimidate, outrage or upset

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

Lorenzo and all, Interestingly enough, in German "diverse" *can* relate to an individual. This is a fairly recent development – following a 2018 court decision, "diverse" was introduced as a third option in census forms and the like, to be used by people who do not identify as "female" or "male".

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

Lodewijk, Board members are required to fulfil a number of different functions, and some of those requirements will inevitably be in tension with each other. For example, board members are supposed: – to represent the volunteer community – to represent the affiliates – to represent the interests

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

Hi all, A couple of thoughts. Lodewijk said: "It would be nice if we can somehow still lower the stakes by making processes more iterative, and accepting that the outcome does not have to be the same for a long period of time." This encapsulates *exactly* what wikis are all about. Wikipedia was

[Wikimedia-l] Wording of fundraising emails

Dear all, Julia Brungs this week kindly posted the wording of the emails for the impending email campaign in India on Meta.[1] I've typed out (copy/paste from the pdfs is blocked; could this be changed in future?) the wording of these emails on the Fundraising talk page, for people's reference.[2]

[Wikimedia-l] 2020 Form 990 published

Hi all, The WMF published its Form 990 for the 2020 calendar year a week ago[1], along with an FAQ on Meta[2]. Some salient points: 1. In 2020, the number of Wikimedia employees whose total compensation and benefits exceeded $300,000 went up to eight. They were:[3] Katherine Maher, ED ($423,318

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 2020 Form 990 published

hank you for this summary. The rate of turnover at Wikipedia is > surprising to me. > > On Sun, May 22, 2022, 9:00 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The WMF published its Form 990 for the 2020 calendar year a week ago[1], >> along with an FAQ on Meta[2]. &

[Wikimedia-l] Fact-checking Raju Narisetti in the Indian Express

Dear all, Last weekend, an interview with Raju Narisetti, titled "Wikipedia is building trust with transparency", was published in the Indian Express, one of the major daily newspapers in India. For your convenience, here is an archive link for the article: https://archive.ph/RaCwX The Indian Ex

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fact-checking where resources flow

ioritize across orgs? > ⸭ *Peter paradox*: Under what conditions does paying people strengthen > local community? > > We may have answers to most of these questions implicitly embedded in > current processes. But I have not seen explicit answers or discussions in > many years. >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Fact-checking Raju Narisetti in the Indian Express

://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising#Raju_Narisetti_interview:_most_of_the_money_is_flowing_into_the_Global_South> > . > > > Thank you, > > > Megan > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 6:52 PM Peter Southwood < > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

020_Wikimedia_Foundation_Form_990_Frequently_Asked_Questions [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:IRS_tax_related_information/2020_Wikimedia_Foundation_Form_990_Frequently_Asked_Questions#Employees_and_salary_costs [3] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/e/e4/Wikimedia_Foundat

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Inc. design staff

Hi Felipe, Funding open knowledge projects beyond Wikimedia, or other altruistic projects that have nothing to do with Wikimedia at all (the Knowledge Equity Fund is a case in point, of course ...) doesn't seem right to me. The WMF has been fundraising in India (as well as in Latin America and So

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

oundation/e/e4/Wikimedia_Foundation_2020_Form_990.pdf#page=29 On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:46 PM Dan Garry (Deskana) wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 23:25, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> If you've spotted an error in my reasoning or think you can provide a >> better estimate, please do

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

g donations should be honest. At least > two of those statements are very much questionable, and at the same time we > shouldn't be sending multiple requests close enough to each other that > people are complaining which means many others are just sending emails to > spam which become

[Wikimedia-l] Re: what do we do with all this opportunity?

Hi WSC, For some time now, the edit window has included the following phrase: "You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license." This has no bearing on the "share alike" part of your argument, but as far as the "attribution" part of CC BY-SA is conce

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

years we need any > promotion of the movement to reflect the community as a valuable long term > respectable, trustworthy, reliable, and neutral partner organisation. > > > Boodarwun > Gnangarra > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 20:06, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> Hi Gnangarra and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikimedia Enterprise API project

Dear Liam, There seem to be (at least) two types of presentations on Wikimedia Enterprise here: a PR-optimised one for public consumption, given here, and an internal one. I'd like the difference between the two to be smaller, ideally, and for the community (also) to be given the internal one, as

[Wikimedia-l] The new Signpost is out

Hi all, It is the end of June and a new Signpost issue has been published: - News and notes: WMF inks new rules on government-ordered takedowns, blasts Russian feds' censor demands, spends big bucks

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing the Wikimedia Foundation’s Human Rights Impact Assessment

Dear Richard and all, The recommendations from this 2020 report that you have published now make interesting reading. – Some (UCoC, Human Rights Policy) have clearly been implemented since you received the report two years ago. – Others (training for admins and rights holders) are in the process

[Wikimedia-l] Seven Wikimedia chapters rejected as permanent observers to the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)

Dear all, A week ago, the WMF issued a press release, "Seven Wikimedia chapters rejected as permanent observers to the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)": https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2022/07/15/seven-wikimedia-chapters-rejected-as-permanent-observers-to-wipo/ This stated,

[Wikimedia-l] Maryana Iskander interview in San Francisco Examiner

Dear Maryana, Jeff, and all, Allow me to raise a couple of points with respect to the interview published yesterday in the San Francisco Examiner, titled "What does the CEO who oversees Wikipedia do? We ask her." https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/what-does-the-ceo-who-oversees-wikipedia-do-we-ask-h

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Seven Wikimedia chapters rejected as permanent observers to the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)

gt; Public Policy Director > Wikimedia Foundation > 1 Montgomery Street, Suite 1600 > San Francisco, CA 94104 > jgerl...@wikimedia.org > > > Andreas Kolbe schrieb am Fr., 22. Juli 2022, 19:44: > >> Dear all, >> >> A week ago, the WMF issued a press

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Propose statements for the 2022 Election Compass for the Board of Trustees election

Hi Jackie, Per the timeline you communicated on July 9 (quoted below), upvoting of the proposed statements for the Election Compass was meant to start on July 23rd: *July 21 - 22:* Elections Committee reviews statements for clarity and removes off-topic statements *July 23 - August 1:* Volunteers

[Wikimedia-l] At-Large Directors for the Wikimedia Endowment Board

Dear Lisa, Julie and all, The WMF is apparently looking for four to eleven "At-Large Directors for the Wikimedia Endowment Board".[1][2] Could you provide the community with a little information about this role? Also, there have been no updates on the total funds held in the Endowment[3] since t

[Wikimedia-l] The new Signpost issue (Aug. 1) is out

July has ended and a new Signpost issue is out – complete with an Election Guide that includes op-eds by all six shortlisted candidates for the WMF Board, and candidates' answers to community questions on the associated talk pages. There's also detailed coverage of the recent hubbub surrounding th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Invitation to join the Movement Strategy Forum

Dear all, It's unfortunate that this has to be said, but: – A community review report should be written by the community, not the WMF. – The idea of democracy is not that the government should elect a new people. Regards, Andreas On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 5:02 PM Quim Gil wrote: > Hello everyon

[Wikimedia-l] 2022 WMF board election - candidates' video answers to questions have been posted

Dear all, The WMF board candidates' video answers to six questions proposed and selected by the community have been posted on Meta-Wiki. You can find them here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Campaign_Videos Written answers to additional community questions t

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Invitation to join the Movement Strategy Forum

Dear Quim and all, On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 12:18 AM Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, > > If anyone finds the report > > biased, it would be helpful to share the excerpts or the absences that > prove this bias. We are happy to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The 2022 Board of Trustees election Community Voting period is now open

The on-wiki voting instructions in all the other languages still make no mention of the videos. Andreas On Tuesday, August 23, 2022, Benjamin Lees wrote: > I'm surprised to see that this announcement includes no mention of the videos that the candidates created answering community questions[1] a

[Wikimedia-l] The new Signpost is out!

The Signpost – Volume 18, Issue 8 – 31 August 2022 -- News and notes: Admins wanted on English Wikipedia, IP editors not wanted on Farsi Wiki, donations wanted everywhere http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-08-31/News_and_notes

[Wikimedia-l] Poll of Wikipedians concludes: Wikimedia fundraising emails are misleading

A poll at the English Wikipedia’s “Village Pump” – one of the prime meeting places for the volunteer editors who write and curate Wikipedia – has overwhelmingly concluded that Wikimedia Foundation fundraising emails due to be sent to donors shortly are unethical and misleading. It is the first time

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Decentralized fundraising, centralized distribution

Dear Nate, You say, "By contrast, the bulk of mission-related services from the Wikimedia movement are offered to the world at large centrally by the international office (i.e. the Wikimedia projects)." Just think about this statement for a moment. It is not true. The bulk of mission-related serv

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

pent. > > This is an investment in process, not an investment in navel-gazing. > > I hope this has helped alleviate some of your concerns. > > Best regards, > Rae > > ~~~~ > User:Vermont <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Vermont> on Wikimedia > projects > th

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

k. > > Saya mengajak para Wikimediawan/wati yang memiliki perhatian khusus pada > hal ini untuk turut serta membantu Kelompok Kerja dalam diskusi yang > penting ini. > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 14:29 Peter Southwood > wrote: > >> I, too, would appreciate such en

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

It's not exactly volunteer time. According to the documentation on Meta-Wiki[1] each of the 16 listed working group members is appointed for one year, and receives a stipend of $600 per year for their participation (estimated at 5 hours per week). I am surprised to see that the working group inclu

[Wikimedia-l] The new Signpost is out!

The Signpost – Volume 18, Issue 9 – 30 September 2022 -- News and notes: Board vote results, bot's big GET, crat chat gives new mop, WMF seeks "sound logo" and "organizer lab" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-09-30/News_and_notes

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

tory is about Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia. >>>>> >>>>> WSC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Message: 2 >>>>>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:54 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Gnom1 on Phabricator has offered to actually answer legal questions, but we > need to come up with the questions that we want to ask. > > In the Phabricator discussion, Denny and others spent some considerable effort to come up with the f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > I have no dog in this race, but facts are not eligible for copyright > protection. > > Martijn, individual facts aren't eligible for copyright, but substantial compilations of facts are. The concept you are missing is "database rights":

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On traceability and reliability of data we publish [was Re: [Wikidata] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata]

Hi Roger / Alphos, On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 10:01 PM, Alphos OGame wrote: > Traceability of information does not pertain with who imported said > information on Wikidata. Could be an unregistered user, could be a bot, > could be a Wikimedian in residence or even the Pope himself, it doesn't > ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Executive Director's Letter to Donors

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > We just won a major victory in our battle to keep the internet free [...] Our > established positions are > against corporate interests. When the Guardian reported[1] on the recent European copyright campaign, as supported by Wikimedia p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Donations - show the editors you care?

Hi, I'd just like to revive the point made by Pelagic in the post that started this thread. I was just now once again presented with this banner wording, "Show the editors who bring you neutral and verified information that their work matters." I find this wording very offensive, as it implies th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

Well, Jimmy Wales has said here in this discussion that he is "continuing to push for more disclosure and more openness." Maybe he'll be so kind as to tell you now that you can publish that NDA here on this list without fear of repercussions. I think we all agree that kind of fear should have no p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Anna Stillwell wrote: > Jimmy, > > I have a ridiculous amount of respect for you and what you have > accomplished. I have watched from afar (I was living a lot in other > countries) as this radical experiment in trust *exploded* on to the world. > It blew my mind.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

Anna, That too is largely due to volunteers. In early February 2002 for example, Jimmy spoke of putting advertising on Wikipedia, saying on the Wikipedia-l mailing list:[1][2] ---o0o--- However, with the ongoing hard times in the Internet economy, we do anticipate adding some forms of advertisin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

016 at 3:37 AM, Chris Sherlock wrote: > > > On 28 Feb 2016, at 2:25 PM, Chris Sherlock > wrote: > > > > > >> On 28 Feb 2016, at 1:16 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Anna Stillwell < > astillw...@wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

Erik, I have too many times read appeals to do something later, because now is not a good time, or to move discussion to a sub-page, because it's too big a topic, and so forth. Invariably the result was that *nothing ever happened*. Chris Sherlock is absolutely right that the board's performance

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: We COULD outsource most of our tech (I'm not supporting this, I'm just > giving perspective). > One thing I've been wondering about of late is how much donor-funded the work the WMF is doing that is primarily designed to support commerc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 2/28/16 6:48 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > I think it is far more likely that if the board is conducting its > business > > in a non-transparent manner, and has done for as long as it has existed, > > then that is b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

t whether that's in the form of > "self-financing cottage industries" or a "separate for-profit arm" or > within the current engineering organization. I can see arguments for > any of those. > > > > > On 2/28/16 8:02 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > What non-hypothetical work are you referring to? > > {{cn}} > > -- brion > Brion, You tell me. :) For what it's worth, Jimmy Wales has said in this thread today, ---o0o--- On the very specific topic of donor funding going to help comm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

alking about compatibility work that helps users, then I > think that's part of our job to do. If talking about making search engines, > they can and do just do it themselves without our involvement. > > -- brion > > > > > On Monday, 29 February 2016, Brion Vibber

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

Pete, According to his Signpost piece three weeks ago[1], James Heilman emailed the board in mid-October about the Knight Foundation grant to warn the board, and I quote – *"4) There is a serious lack of transparency around this new "sister project". This has not been discussed with our communit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > Intimidation about speaking up is a terrible and perverse thing to > happen in any organization. If that's a feeling that the organization > has had, I want to put forward the idea that it's over. If I were > moving into the ED position, it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > A few days ago, Oliver Keyes said[1] here on this list that, even though > he > > had already quit his job, he was scared to share with people the content > of > > the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > We went back and forth in pleasant emails discussing the situation and > as a part of that I said: "I am always in favor of more community > consultation." I went on to discuss a bit that I didn't think we were > at the point where a full-sca

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > And there are things in the FAQs even today, like the plans for "public > curation or relevance",[1][2] that are of material interest to volunteers, > because they are the ones envisaged to be doing that work. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Andreas Kolbe > wrote: > > > Here is what I don't understand: both Dariusz and James have said that > they > > pushed hard for transparency and community engagement ab

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > So my concern is not that you lost touch with staff. I don't > particularly care about any one person. My concern is that the *board* > did. My concern is that when staff reached out the Board replied with > a letter indicating they had full

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > **To that end, the Board remains unanimously committed in > > our support of Lila in her role** and in her efforts to adapt her > > leadership and to address these issues." > > Aste

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Risker wrote: > > So please, let's stop pretending those two words mean the same thing. > They don't mean the same thing at all. But would you really dispute the statement that WMF leaders should be both transparent AND honest? Transparency is a fundamental WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

Kevin, Those were quotes from the current WMF documentation explaining the Discovery project and its underlying strategy. I linked the sources in my post. Federated open data sources and Kindle are mentioned here: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ADiscovery_Year_0-1-2.pdf&page=9

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

Anne, On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Risker wrote: > > They don't mean the same thing at all. But would you really dispute the > > statement that WMF leaders should be both transparent AND honest? > > > > Transparency is a fundamental WMF value. > > > > Nobody here is talking about vendor agre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I am going to San Francisco

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > Anne, I have mentioned several times in the past few days here on this > list > > Sue Gardner's 2008 email suggesting that the WMF enter into an "umbrella > > relationship/agreement" or "business deal" with Google. In case you > missed > > i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter: Issues needing addressing by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > We should not use off-list messages to convey thoughts that would be > completely unacceptable if said in public. I don't want to be involved in > stuff like that -- and I'd much rather it didn't happen to begin with. > I told Jimmy Wales a

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

A number of nominations have now come in for the affiliate-selected board seats.[1] One of the people who have put their names forward to date is Susanna Mkrtchyan of Wikimedia Armenia. In her nomination statement[2] Susanna refers to the 2014 "One Armenian, one Article" Wikipedia campaign. The B

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > Susanna is (or was) a researcher, and every researcher in Armenia is a > state employee. There are just no non-governmental organizations who employ > researchers. > > I do think there is a problem with a potential Armenian board membe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

+01:00 Andreas Kolbe : > > I don't know Susanna, and in fact until yesterday had never heard of her. > > She may well be a delightful and charming person with a genuine > enthusiasm > > for open knowledge. There are after all many encyclopedic topics that > have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

> [1] let us remember countries in the west struggle with tremendous > corruption too, albeit manifested more financially than ideologically. > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Cristian Consonni > > wrote: > > > 2016-03-03 0:15 GMT+01:00 Andreas Kolbe : > > > I don

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Armenia candidate for the board

/en/40-press-releases/presss-releases/4871-occrp-rise-euractiv-launch-internet-ownership-project [5] http://hetq.am/eng/news/65992/armentel-$500-million-swindle-employees-phone-messages-monitored.html [6] http://www.eurasianet.org/node/72831 On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Fæ wrote: > On 2 Marc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:24 PM, jytdog wrote: > Pierre that is exactly what I struggle with. You are saying that throwing > integrity out the window in the name of politics is OK. I am saying it is > absolutely not OK. The individuals representing the board should have been > honest and simpl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > One unhealthy cycle that I think we've gotten into is what I would call > "Kremlinology". > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremlinology > > The cycle looks like this: > - the board doesn't share enough, so people are forced to try to > interpr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

post/2015-12-02/Op-ed [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Klee-Irwin.gif [3] http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogus-business-school-316133.html [4] https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/969531789761319/ > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 1:56 P

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

CC-0 licence has the potential of obscuring the origin of the data, cutting the very feedback loop your argument relies on for a substantial subset of end users. Andreas On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe > wrote: > &g

[Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

On March 1, Jimmy Wales wrote:[1] things like standard boilerplate language to be signed by > all employees doesn't strike me as something in and of itself to be kept > private - there is a valid interest in showing that our policies are > fair and humane for employees, responsible in terms of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

resigned, too, and has yet to be replaced. > > Risker/Anne > > On 12 March 2016 at 21:09, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > > On March 1, Jimmy Wales wrote:[1] > > > > things like standard boilerplate language to be signed by > > > all employees doesn't strike

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement clauses

Luis, The original announcement of your departure[1], posted on Feb. 8, said, Quote: "Later this month, Luis will transition out of his current position with the Wikimedia Foundation to pursue other opportunities. He will remain in a consulting role with the Foundation over the next few months, c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open and recorded WMF Board meetings

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:13 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:51 AM, SarahSV wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:42 PM, John Mark Vandenberg > > wrote: > >> Are we still waiting for Jimmy to agree/reject to James' request to > >> release an email? > > > > Yes. Ji

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero mass effect on Wikimedia projects

Motherboard today has a fairly comprehensive report on this: Angola’s Wikipedia Pirates Are Exposing the Problems With Digital Colonialism http://motherboard.vice.com/read/wikipedia-zero-facebook-free-basics-angola-pirates-zero-rating On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Mwaoshe Njemah wrote: > Re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] any open search engine for web project starting

Dan, I understand you are currently only working on internal search, representing stage 1 of this project. But does the long-term vision of the subsequent stages still include things like – 1. incorporation of non-Wikimedia sources in search results, 2. an open source knowledge engine like IBM's

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Sweden loses copyright suit

Report in The Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/05/wikimedias-free-photo-database-of-artworks-violates-copyright-court-rules Wikimedia Sweden press release: http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/pressreleases/hoegsta-domstolen-vaeljer-att-krympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Sweden loses copyright suit

ts not "a large-scale online database" per se. Its the commercial aspect >> of it that is at issue. >> >> >> On 05/04/2016 19:06, Andreas Kolbe wrote: >> >>> Report in The Guardian: >>> >>> >>> http://www.theguar

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