[Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

2015-10-31 Thread Asaf Bartov
Dear friends, Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to the Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month, after long illness. Khalid was an educator from Pakistan who was passionate about creating and sharing free knowledge. He had great plans for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Khalid Mahmood is gone

2015-10-31 Thread Anna Stillwell
Thank you for letting us know, Asaf. Rest in peace, Khalid. /a On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > Dear friends, > > Our colleague User:Khalid Mahmood, the most prolific contributor to the > Western Punjabi Wikipedia[1], has died earlier this month,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 31.10.2015 12:12, Fæ wrote: On 31 Oct 2015 11:00, "Ilario Valdelli" wrote: On 31.10.2015 11:46, Fæ wrote: Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 per photograph? Fae 30.000 is exact, but they are 30.000 Real which means 11.000 USD. Cool.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread
We have many years of running these very similar projects. It should be possible to compare the value of outcomes against each other to see if some use better practices than others, and then to help assess future grant proposals for their potential value against estimated costs. I agree that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread
On 31 October 2015 at 02:26, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: ... > And this money, more then 30'000 USD, come from WMF for the WLE 2014/15 and Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 per photograph? Fae -- fae...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 31.10.2015 11:46, Fæ wrote: On 31 October 2015 at 02:26, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: ... And this money, more then 30'000 USD, come from WMF for the WLE 2014/15 and Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 per photograph? Fae

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Jane Darnell
I totally agree with Ilario here. We have yet to put a financial value on a Wikimedia contributor time unit, but I would venture to say that if such projects manage to procure even one Wikimedia contributor for the projects then that is money well spent. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Ilario

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread
On 31 Oct 2015 11:00, "Ilario Valdelli" wrote: > > On 31.10.2015 11:46, Fæ wrote: >> Hang on. Could I have an independent reality check; is that really $7 >> per photograph? >> >> Fae > > 30.000 is exact, but they are 30.000 Real which means 11.000 USD. Cool. So about $2.50

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Funny. Gerald: "What do YOU hope" [again YOU*] Me: "My point is not important here" Gerald:" When your point of view is that other people spending money is wrong because it does not conform to your ideas" ??? I don't have a point, I'm asking "Success for whom?" I asked that, and "you did not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
We did a long research in 2014 to define the prizes as described in the budget request and reports to WMF. A lot of contests in Brasil pay prizes around R$10.000-R$60.000, the value of the prizes that we gave in Brasil are considered low by many participants and professionals in that field.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Michael Peel
> On 31 Oct 2015, at 18:34, Rodrigo Padula > wrote: > > A lot of contests in Brasil pay prizes around R$10.000-R$60.000, the value of > the prizes that we gave in Brasil are considered low by many participants and > professionals in that field. Isn't that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy 3rd Birthday, Wikidata!

2015-10-31 Thread Lila Tretikov
I hope you had a great party! !!! sent from mobile. please excuse typos. On Oct 29, 2015 12:44 PM, "Redon Skikuli" wrote: > Happy Birthday Wikidata, from the growing Albanian community! > > *---* > > *Redon Skikuli* > *e-mail: **re...@skikuli.com * > *web:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy 3rd Birthday, Wikidata!

2015-10-31 Thread Tito Dutta
Congrats guys. It's 3 years now. :) -- User:Titodutta (En WP) On 31 October 2015 at 22:53, Lila Tretikov wrote: > I hope you had a great party! !!! > > sent from mobile. please excuse typos. > On Oct 29, 2015 12:44 PM, "Redon Skikuli" wrote: > > > Happy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Again, and again. "Success for whom"? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Community_Brazilian_Group_of_Education_and_Research/Wiki_Loves_Earth_Brasil_2015#Measures_of_success The section "measure of success" reports: at least 400 participants uploading one photograph or more;

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
"this is a normal budget for any WLM or WLE in several countries." WLE Brazil prizes: 3'300 EUR (2014) 3'000 EUR (2015) WLM 1800 EUR (2015) [1] WLE Thailand: 510 EUR (2014) Tunisia: 558 EUR (2015) Spain and Portugal: 1400 EUR (2015)... WLM: Ireland: 550 EUR (2015) Latvia 500 EUR (2015)

[Wikimedia-l] Enc: Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
I see a lot of good results and contributions here and as pointed by Ilario, we reached great part of our measures of success WLM 2015 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Campaign:wlm-br - 4.453 photos - 411 uploaders - 325 new users registered on commons WLM 2014+2015

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So you did not answer the question. What is it that you aim to achieve. I get words, no ideas, nothing. Only negativity. Money is there to burn as long as it probably leads to results. The results should not be compared with what is done elsewhere when elsewhere is incomparable. When your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rodrigo versus Rodrigo (was Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers)

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
555 I just showed the thread, not your specific email. This is not about me, so why my name is there? "doing almost nothing on online projects or even on outreach activities. " > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rodrigo.Argenton. ops "there is no need to demonize

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread WereSpielChequers
Maybe it is time to reconsider some of our standard metrics for wiki loves monuments. One of the big gains in several countries has been to get a list of monuments into Wikipedia maybe in future direct into wikidata. I think that the standard metrics should reflect that, OK it is metadata,

[Wikimedia-l] Enc: Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
I cant see any relation in the "literature" regarding photo contests prizes and monthly average wage :-) So our study was based on local photo contests prizes, international prizes and a reasonable value for a non-profit organization in a way that the value is interesting for a amateur or a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rodrigo versus Rodrigo (was Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers)

2015-10-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 31.10.2015 21:13, Luiz Augusto wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: (...) [5]some samples of local community interacting with Padula's "ideas":

[Wikimedia-l] Rodrigo versus Rodrigo (was Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers)

2015-10-31 Thread Luiz Augusto
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: > (...) > > [5]some samples of local community interacting with Padula's "ideas": > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Brazilian_Group_of_Education_and_Research/User_Group_Proposal >

[Wikimedia-l] Enc: Rodrigo versus Rodrigo (was Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers)

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
I'm not fighting against anybody here, I'm just defending myself and moving forward keeping my ideas and our projects running as I proposed to do during and after the Brazilian Catalyst Program! As a good Petyr Baelish, I'm just trying to keep my head connected to my neck :-) Best regards,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
WereSpielChequers, I talked about that in the thread, if WLM and WLE would be closer (some countries are) to communities WP, Commons,... the result would be better. " I would like to see Wikimedia Commons volunteers be involved in the process, to create more clear, précised, and aligned rules

[Wikimedia-l] Enc: Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
Hello Illario and Jane, Thanks by your comments. That is exactly the point! WLM and WLE are not only about the number of pictures loaded and the general quality of the pictures. It's about our mission and new users engagement too. That is what our group is trying to do here, teach people about

[Wikimedia-l] Enc: Re: WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Padula
Argentom, only to demonstrate how wrong and misinformed you are, the guy you cited on your email is a very active contributor with more than 50.000 edits on the main domain of pt.wikipedia and near 100.000 edits including all domains. Thinking in personal privacy, it is not a good approach to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Gerard, This "you" is for me? Right? Well I'm really asking here for whom this was successful, and tried to explore the several layers that could be impacted by this. My point is not important here, but this is a conversation, so: Measure of success: Wikimedia Commons receiving a good impact

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy 3rd Birthday, Wikidata!

2015-10-31 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Happy birthday, Wikidata. Greetings from Bengali Wikipedia. Bodhisattwa On 31 Oct 2015 23:03, "Tito Dutta" wrote: > Congrats guys. It's 3 years now. :) > -- > User:Titodutta (En WP) > > On 31 October 2015 at 22:53, Lila Tretikov wrote: > > > I hope you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WLM Brasil 2015 - Winners / Numbers

2015-10-31 Thread Richard Ames
Please slow this conversation down and do not personalise it. Regards, Richard ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: