Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
This would be great! BTW, as a personal note, I studied at Stanford, then went on to teach at UCSC, so I love and know well both places :-) UCSC is more secluded, can be a more focused gathering place, is perhaps cheaper. The cons are the transportation, and the distance from Silicon Valley (one has to commit an afternoon; people cannot just drop by). Stanford is really in the center of Silicon Valley, many more people would be able to drop by if they just wish to attend a couple of sessions. Facilities are superb. Costs to be determined, but they do have campus housing in theory. Luca On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:51 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Irina Zaks of Stanford's Open Source Lab has offered to help get the > pricing information and the contact information for someone at > Stanford Facilities who I hope can answer the availability question. > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > > Great! Can you also get some information about housing, and room costs? > > I know Stanford also has a lot of on-campus housing, but I am not sure > how > > much of that would be available, and at what rate... can we get some > idea? > > Luca > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, James Salsman > wrote: > >> > >> When people mentioned Stanford last night, I asked their Open Source > >> Lab's event mailing list, and found a couple people willing to help, > >> one of whom (Todd Davies) is willing to act as an academic sponsor. > >> So I created a bid page: > >> > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Stanford > >> > >> All we need is to sign up local sponsors (e.g. Google, Oracle, who > >> else?) to pay for the venues and as much on campus room and board as > >> possible, if we want to be sure to beat Montreal and Tokyo. I hope we > >> can talk about that at the Meetup on the 6th. > >> > >> I'm not partial to whether this is a 2011 or a 2012 bid, but the > >> instructions said that a 2011 bid was still likely feasible. I would > >> prefer Stanford to UCSC because it's closer to me, but I would also > >> wholeheartedly support a UC Berkeley, UCSF, USF, etc. bids. Those are > >> closer still to me, but logistically they seem more problematic in > >> terms of accommodations, parking, raising sponsorship funds, etc. I > >> would prefer to avoid conference facilities without libraries. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> James > >> > >> ___ > >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list > >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Irina Zaks of Stanford's Open Source Lab has offered to help get the pricing information and the contact information for someone at Stanford Facilities who I hope can answer the availability question. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > Great! Can you also get some information about housing, and room costs? > I know Stanford also has a lot of on-campus housing, but I am not sure how > much of that would be available, and at what rate... can we get some idea? > Luca > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, James Salsman wrote: >> >> When people mentioned Stanford last night, I asked their Open Source >> Lab's event mailing list, and found a couple people willing to help, >> one of whom (Todd Davies) is willing to act as an academic sponsor. >> So I created a bid page: >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Stanford >> >> All we need is to sign up local sponsors (e.g. Google, Oracle, who >> else?) to pay for the venues and as much on campus room and board as >> possible, if we want to be sure to beat Montreal and Tokyo. I hope we >> can talk about that at the Meetup on the 6th. >> >> I'm not partial to whether this is a 2011 or a 2012 bid, but the >> instructions said that a 2011 bid was still likely feasible. I would >> prefer Stanford to UCSC because it's closer to me, but I would also >> wholeheartedly support a UC Berkeley, UCSF, USF, etc. bids. Those are >> closer still to me, but logistically they seem more problematic in >> terms of accommodations, parking, raising sponsorship funds, etc. I >> would prefer to avoid conference facilities without libraries. >> >> Cheers, >> James >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
Great! Can you also get some information about housing, and room costs? I know Stanford also has a lot of on-campus housing, but I am not sure how much of that would be available, and at what rate... can we get some idea? Luca On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM, James Salsman wrote: > When people mentioned Stanford last night, I asked their Open Source > Lab's event mailing list, and found a couple people willing to help, > one of whom (Todd Davies) is willing to act as an academic sponsor. > So I created a bid page: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Stanford > > All we need is to sign up local sponsors (e.g. Google, Oracle, who > else?) to pay for the venues and as much on campus room and board as > possible, if we want to be sure to beat Montreal and Tokyo. I hope we > can talk about that at the Meetup on the 6th. > > I'm not partial to whether this is a 2011 or a 2012 bid, but the > instructions said that a 2011 bid was still likely feasible. I would > prefer Stanford to UCSC because it's closer to me, but I would also > wholeheartedly support a UC Berkeley, UCSF, USF, etc. bids. Those are > closer still to me, but logistically they seem more problematic in > terms of accommodations, parking, raising sponsorship funds, etc. I > would prefer to avoid conference facilities without libraries. > > Cheers, > James > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
When people mentioned Stanford last night, I asked their Open Source Lab's event mailing list, and found a couple people willing to help, one of whom (Todd Davies) is willing to act as an academic sponsor. So I created a bid page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Stanford All we need is to sign up local sponsors (e.g. Google, Oracle, who else?) to pay for the venues and as much on campus room and board as possible, if we want to be sure to beat Montreal and Tokyo. I hope we can talk about that at the Meetup on the 6th. I'm not partial to whether this is a 2011 or a 2012 bid, but the instructions said that a 2011 bid was still likely feasible. I would prefer Stanford to UCSC because it's closer to me, but I would also wholeheartedly support a UC Berkeley, UCSF, USF, etc. bids. Those are closer still to me, but logistically they seem more problematic in terms of accommodations, parking, raising sponsorship funds, etc. I would prefer to avoid conference facilities without libraries. Cheers, James ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Ok, I was bold and dared to start the page. Quick, before it gets deleted, add details about other venues! :-) Best, Luca On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:32 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > Hi Micah: Good idea! Let's talk about this at the meetup. > > All: given this surge of enthusiasm for at least *thinking* about > Wikimania, why don't we try to capture the discussion on wiki: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/San_Francisco/Wikimania > > If someone wants to list the venues that have been discussed in this > thread, and pros/cons/contact info, that would be awesome. Then we'll > have a place to put new ideas, too. > > And don't forget, there's this page already: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/WikiConference_Bay_Area > > if people are excited about the idea of hosting a smaller conference > in the coming 12 months, that's the place to plan it! Just dive in: we > need venue suggestions, a timeline, a checklist of things to do, etc. > etc. etc. > > :) > Phoebe > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Micah Alpern > wrote: > > > > > > This looks like a good topic to discuss during the February 6th SF > > Wikimania meetup. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/San_Francisco_11#Proposed_ > > agenda > > > > Micah > > > > > > Phoebe wrote: > >>> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in > >>> putting in a bid for Wikimania 2011: > >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
Hi Micah: Good idea! Let's talk about this at the meetup. All: given this surge of enthusiasm for at least *thinking* about Wikimania, why don't we try to capture the discussion on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/San_Francisco/Wikimania If someone wants to list the venues that have been discussed in this thread, and pros/cons/contact info, that would be awesome. Then we'll have a place to put new ideas, too. And don't forget, there's this page already: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/WikiConference_Bay_Area if people are excited about the idea of hosting a smaller conference in the coming 12 months, that's the place to plan it! Just dive in: we need venue suggestions, a timeline, a checklist of things to do, etc. etc. etc. :) Phoebe On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Micah Alpern wrote: > > > This looks like a good topic to discuss during the February 6th SF > Wikimania meetup. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/San_Francisco_11#Proposed_ > agenda > > Micah > > > Phoebe wrote: >>> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in >>> putting in a bid for Wikimania 2011: >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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This looks like a good topic to discuss during the February 6th SF Wikimania meetup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/San_Francisco_11#Proposed_ agenda Micah Phoebe wrote: >> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in >> putting in a bid for Wikimania 2011: >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Hi, Phoebe! If you (or somebody else reliable) get serious about this, let me know. A pal runs the Long Now lecture series, which is 500-700, and has a great deal of detailed information on local venues. But she's fiendishly busy, so I wouldn't want to expose her to the merely interested. William ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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I can check out Stanford. However, I can't think of any inexpensive accommodations in the area for attendees. Kul Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: Stanford must also have space; should someone check the conditions? Luca --- Sent from mobile device On Jan 27, 2010 6:15 PM, "Jon Davis" wrote: I was thinking the same thing. In a case like that ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/floorplans/conv_layout.jpg ) Could use one of the large rooms (Hall 1) for key notes and the smaller rooms (Ballrooms/Metting rooms) for the smaller bits. Most of their expense adding services ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/convention.php - cops/medical/etc) are required after 1k people. If we said 999 expected? On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 18:09, Leon Bacud wrote: > > > What about the San J... Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This h... ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
There are advantages to Santa Cruz (or somewhere like Monterey, looking a bit further afield) - It's not "in the middle of Silicon Valley", which is a nice getaway... -george On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > Regarding costs: > Santa Cruz is $100 / person / day including 3 meals, _and_ rooms are free. > Multimedia (projector rental, etc) is not free but is typically much much > cheaper than I have seen e.g. in hotels. Hotels may charge $500 / day for > projector rentals for the low power units, and the quote for a high power > unit for the main room... was absolutely ridiculous. > So perhaps $100 / person / day + free rooms is not so bad in the Bay Area. > On the negative side, I have heard at various Wikimania people scream in > horror at any price that would be more than about $ 30 / person / day, and I > certainly do not know how to organize something in the Bay Area at that > price (unless we get a huge sponsorship, that is). > Luca > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: >> >> Santa Cruz might have the Theater -- a big open air place that seats 3,000 >> and is very beautiful... >> >> Luca >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim >>> wrote: >>> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro >>> > wrote: >>> >> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be >>> >> known of >>> >> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >>> >> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? >>> > >>> > I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie >>> > Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to >>> > several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same >>> > problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 >>> > person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. >>> > >>> > It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you >>> > investigated other local universities? >>> >>> You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes >>> and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to >>> about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium >>> in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates >>> around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out >>> of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most >>> Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. >>> >>> I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one >>> day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for >>> suggestions. >>> >>> -Robert Rohde >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >>> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Regarding costs: Santa Cruz is $100 / person / day including 3 meals, _and_ rooms are free. Multimedia (projector rental, etc) is not free but is typically much much cheaper than I have seen e.g. in hotels. Hotels may charge $500 / day for projector rentals for the low power units, and the quote for a high power unit for the main room... was absolutely ridiculous. So perhaps $100 / person / day + free rooms is not so bad in the Bay Area. On the negative side, I have heard at various Wikimania people scream in horror at any price that would be more than about $ 30 / person / day, and I certainly do not know how to organize something in the Bay Area at that price (unless we get a huge sponsorship, that is). Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > Santa Cruz might have the Theater -- a big open air place that seats 3,000 > and is very beautiful... > > Luca > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro >> wrote: >> >> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be >> known of >> >> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >> >> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? >> > >> > I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie >> > Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to >> > several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same >> > problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 >> > person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. >> > >> > It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you >> > investigated other local universities? >> >> You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes >> and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to >> about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium >> in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates >> around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out >> of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most >> Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. >> >> I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one >> day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for >> suggestions. >> >> -Robert Rohde >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> > > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
There's also the Oakland convention center and the Marriott right there... On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:32 PM, George Herbert wrote: Also Santa Clara Convention Center and associated Hyatt hotel. 600 seat theater/auditorium, 3 big open rooms with enough space to seat that many people max, etc. Might be right in our size range. http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/floorplan.cfm The Baycon science fiction convention and a Usenix main technical conference (among many others) have been there. -george On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: Stanford must also have space; should someone check the conditions? Luca --- Sent from mobile device On Jan 27, 2010 6:15 PM, "Jon Davis" wrote: I was thinking the same thing. In a case like that ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/floorplans/ conv_layout.jpg ) Could use one of the large rooms (Hall 1) for key notes and the smaller rooms (Ballrooms/Metting rooms) for the smaller bits. Most of their expense adding services ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/convention.php - cops/medical/etc) are required after 1k people. If we said 999 expected? On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 18:09, Leon Bacud wrote: > > What about the San J... Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This h... ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategy Project Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org mobile: 918 200-WIKI (9454) Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
Also Santa Clara Convention Center and associated Hyatt hotel. 600 seat theater/auditorium, 3 big open rooms with enough space to seat that many people max, etc. Might be right in our size range. http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/floorplan.cfm The Baycon science fiction convention and a Usenix main technical conference (among many others) have been there. -george On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > Stanford must also have space; should someone check the conditions? > > Luca > --- > Sent from mobile device > > On Jan 27, 2010 6:15 PM, "Jon Davis" wrote: > > I was thinking the same thing. > > In a case like that ( > http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/floorplans/conv_layout.jpg ) > Could use one of the large rooms (Hall 1) for key notes and the smaller > rooms (Ballrooms/Metting rooms) for the smaller bits. Most of their expense > adding services ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/convention.php > - cops/medical/etc) are required after 1k people. If we said 999 expected? > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 18:09, Leon Bacud wrote: > > >> What about the San J... > > Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog > http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This h... > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Stanford must also have space; should someone check the conditions? Luca --- Sent from mobile device On Jan 27, 2010 6:15 PM, "Jon Davis" wrote: I was thinking the same thing. In a case like that ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/floorplans/conv_layout.jpg ) Could use one of the large rooms (Hall 1) for key notes and the smaller rooms (Ballrooms/Metting rooms) for the smaller bits. Most of their expense adding services ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/convention.php- cops/medical/etc) are required after 1k people. If we said 999 expected? On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 18:09, Leon Bacud wrote: > > > What about the San J... Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This h... ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
I was thinking the same thing. In a case like that ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/floorplans/conv_layout.jpg ) Could use one of the large rooms (Hall 1) for key notes and the smaller rooms (Ballrooms/Metting rooms) for the smaller bits. Most of their expense adding services ( http://www.sanjose.org/meetings/facilities/convention.php- cops/medical/etc) are required after 1k people. If we said 999 expected? On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 18:09, Leon Bacud wrote: > > What about the San Jose Convention Center? > > --- On *Wed, 1/27/10, Luca de Alfaro * wrote: > > > From: Luca de Alfaro > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania? > To: "San Francisco Wikimedians" > Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:49 PM > > > I have also been told that Google does not have enough space; nearby, there > is the Computer History Museum, but that holds also only up to 400 people... > > > Luca > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Robert Rohde > http://mc/compose?to=raro...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM, phoebe ayers >> http://mc/compose?to=phoebe.ay...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> > Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I'd say 1000 is a high number, 800 >> > attendees would be much more likely. We've typically had 4-6 >> > concurrent tracks at past conferences. And then -- and this is the >> > toughest part -- having a "community space" where people can hang out >> > during the conf with laptops, after-hours, etc., is great. This has >> > been a big room with couches, the last few conferences. >> > >> > At Berkeley, other than the keynotes issue (and it looks like Wheeler >> > or Zellerbach would work for that) it looks like the Clark Kerr campus >> > would fit the bill nicely: >> > http://conferenceservices.berkeley.edu/summer_conf_ckc_fp.html >> > >> > This has a wide variety of rooms, plus: >> > "Accommodations in suites and residence hall rooms are available for >> > approximately 700 guests." >> > >> > NO idea about costs, though. >> > >> > Y'all are getting into this! >> >> It is worth noting that the Clark Kerr campus is a separate location >> about a half of a mile from the main campus. Most people at Berkeley >> never have anything to do with Clark Kerr facility and hence don't >> really know what is there. >> >> Because it is a bit of a walk between the two, it would probably be >> best to have events primarily at either Clark Kerr or at the main >> campus. But doing a lot at both sites would be very awkward. >> >> -Robert Rohde >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org<http://mc/compose?to=wikimedia...@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org<http://mc/compose?to=wikimedia...@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > -- Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This has been a test of the emergency sig system. ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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What about the San Jose Convention Center? --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Luca de Alfaro wrote: From: Luca de Alfaro Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania? To: "San Francisco Wikimedians" Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 5:49 PM I have also been told that Google does not have enough space; nearby, there is the Computer History Museum, but that holds also only up to 400 people... Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I'd say 1000 is a high number, 800 > attendees would be much more likely. We've typically had 4-6 > concurrent tracks at past conferences. And then -- and this is the > toughest part -- having a "community space" where people can hang out > during the conf with laptops, after-hours, etc., is great. This has > been a big room with couches, the last few conferences. > > At Berkeley, other than the keynotes issue (and it looks like Wheeler > or Zellerbach would work for that) it looks like the Clark Kerr campus > would fit the bill nicely: > http://conferenceservices.berkeley.edu/summer_conf_ckc_fp.html > > This has a wide variety of rooms, plus: > "Accommodations in suites and residence hall rooms are available for > approximately 700 guests." > > NO idea about costs, though. > > Y'all are getting into this! It is worth noting that the Clark Kerr campus is a separate location about a half of a mile from the main campus. Most people at Berkeley never have anything to do with Clark Kerr facility and hence don't really know what is there. Because it is a bit of a walk between the two, it would probably be best to have events primarily at either Clark Kerr or at the main campus. But doing a lot at both sites would be very awkward. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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I have also been told that Google does not have enough space; nearby, there is the Computer History Museum, but that holds also only up to 400 people... Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM, phoebe ayers > wrote: > > Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I'd say 1000 is a high number, 800 > > attendees would be much more likely. We've typically had 4-6 > > concurrent tracks at past conferences. And then -- and this is the > > toughest part -- having a "community space" where people can hang out > > during the conf with laptops, after-hours, etc., is great. This has > > been a big room with couches, the last few conferences. > > > > At Berkeley, other than the keynotes issue (and it looks like Wheeler > > or Zellerbach would work for that) it looks like the Clark Kerr campus > > would fit the bill nicely: > > http://conferenceservices.berkeley.edu/summer_conf_ckc_fp.html > > > > This has a wide variety of rooms, plus: > > "Accommodations in suites and residence hall rooms are available for > > approximately 700 guests." > > > > NO idea about costs, though. > > > > Y'all are getting into this! > > It is worth noting that the Clark Kerr campus is a separate location > about a half of a mile from the main campus. Most people at Berkeley > never have anything to do with Clark Kerr facility and hence don't > really know what is there. > > Because it is a bit of a walk between the two, it would probably be > best to have events primarily at either Clark Kerr or at the main > campus. But doing a lot at both sites would be very awkward. > > -Robert Rohde > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I'd say 1000 is a high number, 800 > attendees would be much more likely. We've typically had 4-6 > concurrent tracks at past conferences. And then -- and this is the > toughest part -- having a "community space" where people can hang out > during the conf with laptops, after-hours, etc., is great. This has > been a big room with couches, the last few conferences. > > At Berkeley, other than the keynotes issue (and it looks like Wheeler > or Zellerbach would work for that) it looks like the Clark Kerr campus > would fit the bill nicely: > http://conferenceservices.berkeley.edu/summer_conf_ckc_fp.html > > This has a wide variety of rooms, plus: > "Accommodations in suites and residence hall rooms are available for > approximately 700 guests." > > NO idea about costs, though. > > Y'all are getting into this! It is worth noting that the Clark Kerr campus is a separate location about a half of a mile from the main campus. Most people at Berkeley never have anything to do with Clark Kerr facility and hence don't really know what is there. Because it is a bit of a walk between the two, it would probably be best to have events primarily at either Clark Kerr or at the main campus. But doing a lot at both sites would be very awkward. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I'd say 1000 is a high number, 800 attendees would be much more likely. We've typically had 4-6 concurrent tracks at past conferences. And then -- and this is the toughest part -- having a "community space" where people can hang out during the conf with laptops, after-hours, etc., is great. This has been a big room with couches, the last few conferences. At Berkeley, other than the keynotes issue (and it looks like Wheeler or Zellerbach would work for that) it looks like the Clark Kerr campus would fit the bill nicely: http://conferenceservices.berkeley.edu/summer_conf_ckc_fp.html This has a wide variety of rooms, plus: "Accommodations in suites and residence hall rooms are available for approximately 700 guests." NO idea about costs, though. Y'all are getting into this! -- phoebe On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jon Davis wrote: > One question I have in the midst of all this discussion, what kind of space > do we actually need? Estimates say 1,000 people - so we need one large > gathering space for keynotes & etc big enough for 1k. Then what? 6-10 > rooms big enough for 100-170 at a time? Plus smaller rooms for misc > gatherings? What else? > > (Just thought we should establish what the basics are of what we need, if > we're gonna research where we could possibly do it). > > -Jon > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 16:52, Robert Rohde wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim >> > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro >> >> wrote: >> >>> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be >> >>> known of >> >>> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >> >>> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? >> >> >> >> I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie >> >> Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to >> >> several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same >> >> problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 >> >> person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. >> >> >> >> It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you >> >> investigated other local universities? >> > >> > You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes >> > and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to >> > about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium >> > in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates >> > around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out >> > of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most >> > Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. >> > >> > I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one >> > day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for >> > suggestions. >> >> Hmmm, I take that back. Zellerbach Auditorium (basically a concert >> hall) can seat 2000 indoors. Not sure about availability or cost >> though. >> >> -Robert Rohde >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > > -- > Jon > [[User:ShakataGaNai]] > http://snowulf.com/ - Blog > http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures > This has been a test of the emergency sig system. > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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One question I have in the midst of all this discussion, what kind of space do we actually need? Estimates say 1,000 people - so we need one large gathering space for keynotes & etc big enough for 1k. Then what? 6-10 rooms big enough for 100-170 at a time? Plus smaller rooms for misc gatherings? What else? (Just thought we should establish what the basics are of what we need, if we're gonna research where we could possibly do it). -Jon On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 16:52, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro > wrote: > >>> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be > known of > >>> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or > >>> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? > >> > >> I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie > >> Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to > >> several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same > >> problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 > >> person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. > >> > >> It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you > >> investigated other local universities? > > > > You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes > > and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to > > about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium > > in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates > > around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out > > of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most > > Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. > > > > I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one > > day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for > > suggestions. > > Hmmm, I take that back. Zellerbach Auditorium (basically a concert > hall) can seat 2000 indoors. Not sure about availability or cost > though. > > -Robert Rohde > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > -- Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This has been a test of the emergency sig system. ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: >>> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be known of >>> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >>> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? >> >> I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie >> Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to >> several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same >> problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 >> person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. >> >> It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you >> investigated other local universities? > > You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes > and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to > about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium > in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates > around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out > of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most > Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. > > I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one > day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for > suggestions. Hmmm, I take that back. Zellerbach Auditorium (basically a concert hall) can seat 2000 indoors. Not sure about availability or cost though. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Santa Cruz might have the Theater -- a big open air place that seats 3,000 and is very beautiful... Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro > wrote: > >> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be > known of > >> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or > >> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? > > > > I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie > > Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to > > several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same > > problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 > > person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. > > > > It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you > > investigated other local universities? > > You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes > and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to > about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium > in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates > around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out > of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most > Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. > > I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one > day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for > suggestions. > > -Robert Rohde > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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Whoops: let me clarify: cost is $100 / person / day, in 2010. In 2012 it might be slightly higher due to inflation. Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > I called the UCSC Conference Office, and the conditions are better than I > reported: > >- Cost: $100 / person *including* full meals (3 meals / day). >- Space: they have availability, especially in August / early >September. >- Transportation: apparently not difficult to charter buses for peak >periods from SFO. > > Let me know if you would like me to look into this further. > > Luca > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro >> wrote: >> > I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be >> known of >> > the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >> > advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? >> >> I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie >> Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to >> several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same >> problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 >> person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. >> >> It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you >> investigated other local universities? >> >> =Eugene >> >> -- >> == >> Eugene Eric Kim http://xri.net/=eekim >> Blue Oxen Associates http://www.blueoxen.com/ >> == >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> > > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: >> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be known of >> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? > > I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie > Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to > several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same > problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 > person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. > > It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you > investigated other local universities? You have similar space issues with Berkeley when it comes to keynotes and the like. The Student Union has conference spaces that go up to about 500 seats. The largest classroom space is the main auditorium in Wheeler which seats 730. The second largest, Pimentel accommodates around 500. One might be able to kludge together something larger out of gymnasium, but as a practical matter 700 is probably about the most Berkeley can easily manage in a single room. I know the organizers of the Berkeley Energy Symposium (an annual one day conference for ~400) so I can put you in touch with them for suggestions. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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I called the UCSC Conference Office, and the conditions are better than I reported: - Cost: $100 / person *including* full meals (3 meals / day). - Space: they have availability, especially in August / early September. - Transportation: apparently not difficult to charter buses for peak periods from SFO. Let me know if you would like me to look into this further. Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > > I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be known > of > > the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or > > advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? > > I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie > Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to > several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same > problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 > person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. > > It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you > investigated other local universities? > > =Eugene > > -- > == > Eugene Eric Kim http://xri.net/=eekim > Blue Oxen Associates http://www.blueoxen.com/ > == > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: >> I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be known of >> the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or >> advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? > > I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie > Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to > several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same > problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 > person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. > > It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you > investigated other local universities? Not really! Other than that they exist :) And Berkeley may not be ideal either, we'd have to check about classroom and auditorium size/availability. I recall there were several options through the various schools. Wikimania or no, this conversation is also a great preliminary to hosting a smaller (let's say 100-150 ppl), more informal weekend meetup. -- phoebe ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luca de Alfaro wrote: > I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be known of > the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or > advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? I've organized several events hosted by Google through Leslie Hawthorn, who's great and is a friend of our community. (She's been to several RCCs.) The experience has been great, but it has the same problems as the others listed: size (probably can't host a 1,000 person gathering), proximity to housing, transportation, etc. It sounds like Berkeley is the best bet so far. Phoebe, have you investigated other local universities? =Eugene -- == Eugene Eric Kim http://xri.net/=eekim Blue Oxen Associates http://www.blueoxen.com/ == ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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I organized some conference in the Bay before (~250 attendees), and at the time, 4 years ago, I researched the various options. Let me say first of all that I think it would be a real challenge. Wikipedians expect rock bottom prices, and that, coupled with the prices in the Bay, makes up for what might be an unsolvable problem. At least, unsolvable by me! At the time, I enquired about accomodation at UCSC. UCSC (like Berkeley) has lots of dorm rooms in the Summer, and in fact, has a well-oiled process for organizing Summer conferences / camps. There were however four problems: - Price is still about $80 or $100 / night per person! It is run like a profit operation. And with the current UC budget, I don't see them making an exception. - They used to be not very flexible, expecting most participants to arrive on one day, and leave all on the same day (think Summer camps). I had to argue a lot to make them accept the fact that people would have different length stays; I won the point in the end. - The campus is 1.5 miles from the city of Santa Cruz. - Transportation: it's necessary (and possible) to organize shuttles to-from SFO. The plus is that once we are there, meeting rooms are plentiful and excellent, network works, etc etc etc. Plus, the redwood forest is gorgeous, and Santa Cruz is a small enough city that participants don't get diluted away in a huge metropolis (well, not that this was a problem in Buenos Aires or Taiwan!). In the end, I chickened out, and I held my conference in a SF hotel (so I would not have to worry about transportation, arguing about length of stay, etc). It was ok, but it had its own set of issues. All in all, I see price as one of the main problems for the Bay -- at least, I was not able to solve it. I am also at Google now, so if you like, I could at least let it be known of the possibility; I have no idea of whether it would be possible, or advisable, to get Google support or space for this. Any feedback? Best, Luca On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:51 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Eugene Eric Kim > wrote: > > 2010/1/27 phoebe ayers : > >> I researched this question out of curiousity last year, and the most > >> promising venue seemed like UC Berkeley, with their blocks of dorms > >> that they rent out for conferences. USF/SF State similarly have space. > >> Someplace like Mission Bay is gorgeous but pricey. > > > > Phoebe, did you look at Fort Mason? They've got a beautiful space, a > > nonprofit rate, and there are places to eat and stay close by. > > Transportation is not the best, though. It doesn't have that collegial > > residency nearby, though, a feature that's been great at previous > > Wikimanias. > > > > =Eugene > > I did -- it's great, though the onsite hostel only sleeps 162 and the > theater max capacity is 437 (although there is a big warehouse for > 3000 that can also be rented), so we'd likely have to have the > keynotes elsewhere, and accommodation and transport would be a > problem. > > Otherwise a good plan! You see the trouble with this particular > conference size :) > > -- phoebe > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > 2010/1/27 phoebe ayers : >> I researched this question out of curiousity last year, and the most >> promising venue seemed like UC Berkeley, with their blocks of dorms >> that they rent out for conferences. USF/SF State similarly have space. >> Someplace like Mission Bay is gorgeous but pricey. > > Phoebe, did you look at Fort Mason? They've got a beautiful space, a > nonprofit rate, and there are places to eat and stay close by. > Transportation is not the best, though. It doesn't have that collegial > residency nearby, though, a feature that's been great at previous > Wikimanias. > > =Eugene I did -- it's great, though the onsite hostel only sleeps 162 and the theater max capacity is 437 (although there is a big warehouse for 3000 that can also be rented), so we'd likely have to have the keynotes elsewhere, and accommodation and transport would be a problem. Otherwise a good plan! You see the trouble with this particular conference size :) -- phoebe ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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2010/1/27 phoebe ayers : > I researched this question out of curiousity last year, and the most > promising venue seemed like UC Berkeley, with their blocks of dorms > that they rent out for conferences. USF/SF State similarly have space. > Someplace like Mission Bay is gorgeous but pricey. Phoebe, did you look at Fort Mason? They've got a beautiful space, a nonprofit rate, and there are places to eat and stay close by. Transportation is not the best, though. It doesn't have that collegial residency nearby, though, a feature that's been great at previous Wikimanias. =Eugene -- == Eugene Eric Kim http://xri.net/=eekim Blue Oxen Associates http://www.blueoxen.com/ == ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
2010/1/27 George Herbert : > A year, or more, ahead. For larger spaces, often two or three years. > > 2010 + 2 = 2012... Eh, it's relative. Moscone frequently accommodates 10-20 thousand people at a conference. But because they are so large they often have spare capacity. I've seen people book a small portion of Moscone (several rooms) for 500 people on only four months notice provided they weren't picky about the precise dates. You can end up having a small gathering in the shadow of a much larger one, but it certainly possible to find some spaces on short notice. However, if one is talking about a bid for Summer 2011, that should be more than enough lead time that one shouldn't have to worry too much. -Robert Rohde ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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2010/1/27 Jon Davis : > As I've never been to a Wikimania, how much space do they take up? I was > reading > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Montr%C3%A9al#Venue and > it seemed like they had a fairly large amount of space. The Bay has plenty > of large spaces, that isn't the issue, but getting them, costs and all the > other logistics would be. Wikimania typically attracts circa 500-600 attendees, though with a SF location I'd push that up to possibly as high as 800-1000. The problem with venues is that is too many people for many venues (many hotels, etc) but too few for the big ones (eg. the convention center). Throw in the need for nearby, *cheap* accommodation and public transportation and it's tough to find places. I researched this question out of curiousity last year, and the most promising venue seemed like UC Berkeley, with their blocks of dorms that they rent out for conferences. USF/SF State similarly have space. Someplace like Mission Bay is gorgeous but pricey. I'm not sure of the time needed to book these places ahead, but remember because of the Wikimania bidding process we can reserve now, or whenever, but won't know for sure if we're hosting the conf. until the bids get decided, probably late spring 2011. If I were planning a 2012 wikimania (heh) I'd research now, and put in a tentative reservation in late summer 2010, ideally with a no-cost cancellation. > Previously there has been some talk of doing a West Coast Wiki-Conference. > Much smaller than Wikimania, but bigger than our meetup (more to the tune of > RCC). Maybe we should consider doing something like that for early 2011 and > use it a dry run for a Wikimania bid of 2012. I'd be game for a west coast conference! > I'm willing to help be it 2011 or 2012 bid. I think 2011 could be done, but > someone really would need to pick up the torch and run like hell, though I'd > think 2012 is probably better. > > -Jon > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 15:09, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: >> >> How far ahead do we have to talk to convention venues to get space in >> this area? I would think they need a lng lead time. >> >> Ariel >> >> Στις 27-01-2010, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 14:59 -0800, ο/η phoebe ayers >> έγραψε: >> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, George Herbert >> > wrote: >> > > I would think that properly planning a proposal for something like >> > > this would take a lot more than 2 weeks - I've done conference and >> > > convention organization work before, and even the rough plan for a >> > > proposal took more than 2 weeks, including finding and getting >> > > preliminary agreements with venues etc. >> > >> > Agreed! To clarify: Feb 8 is just the deadline to put down the city >> > name as a possibility. You then have until March 29 to work up the >> > full bid (with team and venue information, etc). Two *months* is still >> > a tight timeline for the amount of information required, though. >> > >> > > The 2012 proposal would be more reasonable, on the basis of having a >> > > year to get a team and proposal ready to go. >> > > >> > > However, if someone here wants to go gung-ho for 2011 as a practice >> > > run or if you think you could actually pull a credible proposal >> > > together that fast, more power to you. It would be a good excuse for >> > > some gettogethers at least... >> > >> > Indeed :) >> > >> > I have worked on planning Wikimania for several years now -- so if >> > anyone has questions about this feel free to ask me directly. Note, >> > I'm not personally committing :) -- but I thought I'd find out if >> > there was any community interest (or pent-up desire!) to host >> > wikimania. >> > >> > -- phoebe >> > >> > >> > > -george >> > > >> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, phoebe ayers >> > > wrote: >> > >> Hi all, >> > >> >> > >> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in >> > >> putting >> > >> in a bid for Wikimania 2011: >> > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 >> > >> >> > >> The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list >> > >> the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). >> > >> >> > >> If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as >> > >> well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 >> > >> >> > >> If you don't know what Wikimania is, see >> > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or >> > >> http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. >> > >> >> > >> What do y'all think? >> > >> -- phoebe >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com >> > >> >> > >> ___ >> > >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> > >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> > >> >> > ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
As I've never been to a Wikimania, how much space do they take up? I was reading http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Montr%C3%A9al#Venue and it seemed like they had a fairly large amount of space. The Bay has plenty of large spaces, that isn't the issue, but getting them, costs and all the other logistics would be. Previously there has been some talk of doing a West Coast Wiki-Conference. Much smaller than Wikimania, but bigger than our meetup (more to the tune of RCC). Maybe we should consider doing something like that for early 2011 and use it a dry run for a Wikimania bid of 2012. I'm willing to help be it 2011 or 2012 bid. I think 2011 could be done, but someone really would need to pick up the torch and run like hell, though I'd think 2012 is probably better. -Jon On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 15:09, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: > How far ahead do we have to talk to convention venues to get space in > this area? I would think they need a lng lead time. > > Ariel > > Στις 27-01-2010, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 14:59 -0800, ο/η phoebe ayers > έγραψε: > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, George Herbert > > wrote: > > > I would think that properly planning a proposal for something like > > > this would take a lot more than 2 weeks - I've done conference and > > > convention organization work before, and even the rough plan for a > > > proposal took more than 2 weeks, including finding and getting > > > preliminary agreements with venues etc. > > > > Agreed! To clarify: Feb 8 is just the deadline to put down the city > > name as a possibility. You then have until March 29 to work up the > > full bid (with team and venue information, etc). Two *months* is still > > a tight timeline for the amount of information required, though. > > > > > The 2012 proposal would be more reasonable, on the basis of having a > > > year to get a team and proposal ready to go. > > > > > > However, if someone here wants to go gung-ho for 2011 as a practice > > > run or if you think you could actually pull a credible proposal > > > together that fast, more power to you. It would be a good excuse for > > > some gettogethers at least... > > > > Indeed :) > > > > I have worked on planning Wikimania for several years now -- so if > > anyone has questions about this feel free to ask me directly. Note, > > I'm not personally committing :) -- but I thought I'd find out if > > there was any community interest (or pent-up desire!) to host > > wikimania. > > > > -- phoebe > > > > > > > -george > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, phoebe ayers > wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in putting > > >> in a bid for Wikimania 2011: > > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 > > >> > > >> The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list > > >> the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). > > >> > > >> If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as > > >> well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 > > >> > > >> If you don't know what Wikimania is, see > > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or > > >> http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. > > >> > > >> What do y'all think? > > >> -- phoebe > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list > > >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > >> > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > -- Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] http://snowulf.com/ - Blog http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures This has been a test of the emergency sig system. ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
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A year, or more, ahead. For larger spaces, often two or three years. 2010 + 2 = 2012... -george On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: > How far ahead do we have to talk to convention venues to get space in > this area? I would think they need a lng lead time. > > Ariel > > Στις 27-01-2010, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 14:59 -0800, ο/η phoebe ayers > έγραψε: >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, George Herbert >> wrote: >> > I would think that properly planning a proposal for something like >> > this would take a lot more than 2 weeks - I've done conference and >> > convention organization work before, and even the rough plan for a >> > proposal took more than 2 weeks, including finding and getting >> > preliminary agreements with venues etc. >> >> Agreed! To clarify: Feb 8 is just the deadline to put down the city >> name as a possibility. You then have until March 29 to work up the >> full bid (with team and venue information, etc). Two *months* is still >> a tight timeline for the amount of information required, though. >> >> > The 2012 proposal would be more reasonable, on the basis of having a >> > year to get a team and proposal ready to go. >> > >> > However, if someone here wants to go gung-ho for 2011 as a practice >> > run or if you think you could actually pull a credible proposal >> > together that fast, more power to you. It would be a good excuse for >> > some gettogethers at least... >> >> Indeed :) >> >> I have worked on planning Wikimania for several years now -- so if >> anyone has questions about this feel free to ask me directly. Note, >> I'm not personally committing :) -- but I thought I'd find out if >> there was any community interest (or pent-up desire!) to host >> wikimania. >> >> -- phoebe >> >> >> > -george >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, phoebe ayers >> > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in putting >> >> in a bid for Wikimania 2011: >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 >> >> >> >> The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list >> >> the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). >> >> >> >> If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as >> >> well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 >> >> >> >> If you don't know what Wikimania is, see >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or >> >> http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. >> >> >> >> What do y'all think? >> >> -- phoebe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > > > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
How far ahead do we have to talk to convention venues to get space in this area? I would think they need a lng lead time. Ariel Στις 27-01-2010, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 14:59 -0800, ο/η phoebe ayers έγραψε: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, George Herbert > wrote: > > I would think that properly planning a proposal for something like > > this would take a lot more than 2 weeks - I've done conference and > > convention organization work before, and even the rough plan for a > > proposal took more than 2 weeks, including finding and getting > > preliminary agreements with venues etc. > > Agreed! To clarify: Feb 8 is just the deadline to put down the city > name as a possibility. You then have until March 29 to work up the > full bid (with team and venue information, etc). Two *months* is still > a tight timeline for the amount of information required, though. > > > The 2012 proposal would be more reasonable, on the basis of having a > > year to get a team and proposal ready to go. > > > > However, if someone here wants to go gung-ho for 2011 as a practice > > run or if you think you could actually pull a credible proposal > > together that fast, more power to you. It would be a good excuse for > > some gettogethers at least... > > Indeed :) > > I have worked on planning Wikimania for several years now -- so if > anyone has questions about this feel free to ask me directly. Note, > I'm not personally committing :) -- but I thought I'd find out if > there was any community interest (or pent-up desire!) to host > wikimania. > > -- phoebe > > > > -george > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, phoebe ayers > > wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in putting > >> in a bid for Wikimania 2011: > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 > >> > >> The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list > >> the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). > >> > >> If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as > >> well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 > >> > >> If you don't know what Wikimania is, see > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or > >> http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. > >> > >> What do y'all think? > >> -- phoebe > >> > >> > >> > >> - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com > >> > >> ___ > >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list > >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > >> > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:50 PM, George Herbert wrote: > I would think that properly planning a proposal for something like > this would take a lot more than 2 weeks - I've done conference and > convention organization work before, and even the rough plan for a > proposal took more than 2 weeks, including finding and getting > preliminary agreements with venues etc. Agreed! To clarify: Feb 8 is just the deadline to put down the city name as a possibility. You then have until March 29 to work up the full bid (with team and venue information, etc). Two *months* is still a tight timeline for the amount of information required, though. > The 2012 proposal would be more reasonable, on the basis of having a > year to get a team and proposal ready to go. > > However, if someone here wants to go gung-ho for 2011 as a practice > run or if you think you could actually pull a credible proposal > together that fast, more power to you. It would be a good excuse for > some gettogethers at least... Indeed :) I have worked on planning Wikimania for several years now -- so if anyone has questions about this feel free to ask me directly. Note, I'm not personally committing :) -- but I thought I'd find out if there was any community interest (or pent-up desire!) to host wikimania. -- phoebe > -george > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in putting >> in a bid for Wikimania 2011: >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 >> >> The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list >> the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). >> >> If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as >> well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 >> >> If you don't know what Wikimania is, see >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or >> http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. >> >> What do y'all think? >> -- phoebe >> >> >> >> - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-SF mailing list >> Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf >> ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Re: [Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
I would think that properly planning a proposal for something like this would take a lot more than 2 weeks - I've done conference and convention organization work before, and even the rough plan for a proposal took more than 2 weeks, including finding and getting preliminary agreements with venues etc. The 2012 proposal would be more reasonable, on the basis of having a year to get a team and proposal ready to go. However, if someone here wants to go gung-ho for 2011 as a practice run or if you think you could actually pull a credible proposal together that fast, more power to you. It would be a good excuse for some gettogethers at least... -george On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > Hi all, > > I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in putting > in a bid for Wikimania 2011: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 > > The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list > the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). > > If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as > well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 > > If you don't know what Wikimania is, see > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or > http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. > > What do y'all think? > -- phoebe > > > > - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com > > ___ > Wikimedia-SF mailing list > Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf > -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
[Wikimedia-SF] hosting Wikimania?
Hi all, I was asked if the SF-area Wikimedia group had any interest in putting in a bid for Wikimania 2011: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011 The deadline to do so is February 8 -- two weeks away (just to list the bidding city's name; the deadline for full bid info is March 29). If that's too hard, there's an unofficial page for 2012 already as well: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012 If you don't know what Wikimania is, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania or http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania. What do y'all think? -- phoebe - http://phoebeayers.info | phoebe.ay...@gmail.com ___ Wikimedia-SF mailing list Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
