Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-16 Thread Michael Bimmler
On 3/16/06, Nando Stöcklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Michael! > > > > > > 4. About page protection > > We have a wiki. A wiki means everybody can edit, at Wikimedia CH only > > people logged in. > > But, there are 2 reasons which are imho pro blocking some pages: > > a)www.wikimedia.ch, w

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-16 Thread Michael Bimmler
On 3/16/06, Frederic Schutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Bimmler wrote: > > > > > 3. About the formal language. > > I have discussed this matter some days ago in IRC with Jean-Baptiste > > Soufron, the legal coordinator/advisor of the foundation and he told > > me, that some formal require

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-16 Thread Michael Bimmler
On 3/15/06, Jürg Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry for my recent postings because they were a bit sarcastic a maybe not > clearly defaced as zynical. Well, your postings were ok with me... > > My opinion in this whole thing is: > 1) If our preliminary board thinks, we need a special posta

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-16 Thread Ilario Valdelli
This is a good idea. It's could be also correct to use http://www.wikimedia.ch to indicate some important resolutions taken here in the mailing list. If a new member enter in the foundation, it could be informed of the previous decisions. Regards Ilario On 3/16/06, Nando Stöcklin <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Nando Stöcklin
Thanks Michael! 4. About page protectionWe have a wiki. A wiki means everybody can edit, at Wikimedia CH only people logged in.But, there are 2 reasons which are imho pro blocking some pages:a)www.wikimedia.ch, which is redirecting to our wiki, is mentioned atthe bottom of the Weltwoche article abo

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Nando Stöcklin
2006/3/15, Jürg Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: My opinion in this whole thing is:1) If our preliminary board thinks, we need a special postal address - I'm OKwith it because I don't have the whole view. And on the meeting last year wegave you the mandate and the power to operate towards the swiss chapte

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Frederic Schutz
Michael Bimmler wrote: > 3. About the formal language. > I have discussed this matter some days ago in IRC with Jean-Baptiste > Soufron, the legal coordinator/advisor of the foundation and he told > me, that some formal requirements need to be there (e.g. when mandates > are terminated etc.) bec

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Wolf
I'm sorry for my recent postings because they were a bit sarcastic a maybe not clearly defaced as zynical. My opinion in this whole thing is: 1) If our preliminary board thinks, we need a special postal address - I'm OK with it because I don't have the whole view. And on the meeting last year we g

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Bimmler
On 3/15/06, Ilario Valdelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Of course, your argument makes perfect sense. But being an association > >that promotes Wikipedia and other Wiki-based projects, I would like to > >think that we can do without the permanent protections, only with a > >banner saying "This

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Bimmler
Now there seems to be a big discussion going on here and I would like to clarify a few points as the resolutions come from me and Nando: 1. Why we need resolutions: a) We want to create as soon as a "wikimedia.ch", which is intended for the public. We want to stop using ch.wikimedia.org, because (a

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
>Of course, your argument makes perfect sense. But being an association >that promotes Wikipedia and other Wiki-based projects, I would like to >think that we can do without the permanent protections, only with a >banner saying "This is a resolution voted by the board, and should not >be modif

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
>Which bank: Postfinance looks like a good option to me, if only because >it is easy to give a postal account number to anyone for donations, such >as "12-345678-9", instead of having to say "Bank such and such, account >A-BCDEFGH-I". All the associations I know of use a Yellow account as >the

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Frederic Schutz
Ilario Valdelli wrote: > I don't undestand. Do you mean that pages are blocked to no-sysop > members? It seems to have a sense because when a board (or preliminary > board) take a decision it's important to communicate this decision > (also with grammatical errors). If a no-board person makes a ch

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Frederic Schutz
Jürg Wolf wrote: > Is it also foreseen to open a bank account? And if - in which place? And when? > In whose name? At which bank? When: not before the association is created. One needs a copy of the bylaws, and the minutes of the first general meeting to open an account (specifying who has

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Frederic Schutz
Manuel Schneider [Everything Open] wrote: > The thing is, that there are legal actions that have to be done now in > preparation of the founding of Wikimedia CH and the Wikipedia Day, such as > registering / transfering domain names (wikipedia.ch, wikimedia.ch etc.), > contracts which have to b

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 3/15/06, Jürg Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So there are even other cities possible: > * Zurich - the economic capital of CH > * Berne - the political capital of CH of home affairs > * Geneva - the political capital of CH of foreign affairs > * Lucerne - the touristic capital of CH > * Jungf

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Lugano - the "sunny" capital :) On 3/15/06, Jürg Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So there are even other cities possible: > * Zurich - the economic capital of CH > * Berne - the political capital of CH of home affairs > * Geneva - the political capital of CH of foreign affairs > * Lucerne - the

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Wolf
So there are even other cities possible: * Zurich - the economic capital of CH * Berne - the political capital of CH of home affairs * Geneva - the political capital of CH of foreign affairs * Lucerne - the touristic capital of CH * Jungfraujoch - another touristic capital (indian view) * Olten - t

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
> Looking at the latest changes on the CH wiki... is it on purpose that > the current resolutions look as formal as a UN Security Council > resolution ? "RESOLVED... AND... FURTHER RESOLVED... so proposed on the > fifteenth of March 2006". I know it is borderline to hairsplitting, but > this makes

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Manuel Schneider [Everything Open]
Hi together, just some words why such "resolutions" (or name them how you'd like) are necessary: > I know that several actions must be done BEFORE the real foundation, but I > still do not see why we need a special post address BEFORE the foundation - > and even after the foundation, since we do

Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Jürg Wolf
I agree with Frederic I know that several actions must be done BEFORE the real foundation, but I still do not see why we need a special post address BEFORE the foundation - and even after the foundation, since we do not expect a bunch of mail. And as long there is no founded association, we all (=

[Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions

2006-03-15 Thread Frederic Schutz
Looking at the latest changes on the CH wiki... is it on purpose that the current resolutions look as formal as a UN Security Council resolution ? "RESOLVED... AND... FURTHER RESOLVED... so proposed on the fifteenth of March 2006". I know it is borderline to hairsplitting, but this makes the w