What do you mean by "do I think the same things would be happening?"
I have no love for the FCC under the Bush administration, and I think their
actions were either the result of blatant corruption or stupidity. It's
hard to look at their regulatory history and not be suspicious of the
motivation
One question Clint. If you go all the way back to the FCC Computer Inquiries
Acts I, II, and III...do you think all the same things would be happening? What
if the FCC did not get rid of the enforcement bureau that was handling this?
And after that the Tauzin-Dinguall Acts in the late 90's early
Ditto! -RickG
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net
wrote:
> inline
>
> Mark Nash wrote:
>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business.
>>
>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least
>> expensive MPoP?
>
> 1
> I can not think o
Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if it's
another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the resident is gone.
Get paperwork that allows you to do so.
Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it penetrates the
wall and the POE.
Josh Luthman
Office:
inline
Mark Nash wrote:
> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business.
>
> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least
> expensive MPoP?
1
I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have a laptop. They
need a AP so you mighht as
Micropos make sense in some cases
For example we have a trailer park that we are providing service to. I don't
expect to get more than 10-15 users so an NS2 on a decent antenna and LOCOS
work fine. We feed it with an SM5700 and no complaints.
We use the QoS in the LOCOS for each customer and ev
Bottom line: profitable.
I suggest using a monitoring system to map out how the network runs.
This helps find out where the customer goes to get online.
On 9/24/09, Mark Nash wrote:
> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business.
>
> 1. How many customers do you look for befor
I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business.
1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least
expensive MPoP?
2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs devalues my
business to a prospective buyer.
3. I've always thought that havi
As some of you know we replaced a Canopy AP. The old one was GPS synced by a
CMM but what I didn't know when we replaced the CMM sync port was gone (we
share tower with another Canopy operator that gave us sync since we only had
one unit up there and he didn't need the port).
So instead of get
"I'll take time consuming projects for $500 Alex"
Daily Double!!
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Charles Wu
wrote:
> Incorporate all the formulas on this paper for us =)
>
> -Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Beh
I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and bullets
for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible).
-RickG
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy wrote:
> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to redistribute
> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without
My entire network is pretty much done as micropops. I use 5ghz for BH to all
primary points with a mix of 5g and 2.4g AP's off the BH where needed. Most
of the pops are using 5ghz feeds (I think there are less then 10 left with
2.4g feeds, and all of those are 10mhz channels and just work. When the
I understand if you think MT is complex, but it takes me < 10 minutes to
setup an RB433 with a 5GHz and a 2GHz card to do what you want.
Then I can manage my micropops exactly like my pops. And if it grows,
the right stuff is there. And I just like the control and view I get
with RouterOS.
Ma
Lots of people are doing that with NS2s and MTs. I think across the board
NS2 as the CPE if I'm not mistaken - maybe a few Tranzeos out there.
Up to you to decide which you'd rather use.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you hav
I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to redistribute
service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a full
blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally use 5.8 for BH
typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a PS2 to
receive/BH and conne
Plug a laptop or some other device into the same port, and ping from the PC
router to that device. Same results?
Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106
From: "Josh Luthman"
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:58 PM
To: "e...@wisp-router.com"
You've looked into CPU load and firewall stuff, right?
I too would try a new POE - only $20 to help find out.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be t
Try replace the poe injector.
I seen similar behavior when the poe unit gotten damaged but not enough to stop
traffic all together especially when it's not just a simple straight passive
injector like our poe-in-w.
/Eje
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From: sa..
Ok,
Im going bonkers. We are getting ping drops from our Mikrotik devices to the
other. Our main router is PC based with one of those 4 port RB cards in it.
Starting the other day out of the blue the net started acting funky and we were
getting large pauses. So I started pinging. Get ping loss
Ok,
Im going bonkers. We are getting ping drops from our Mikrotik devices to the
other. Our main router is PC based with one of those 4 port RB cards in it.
Starting the other day out of the blue the net started acting funky and we were
getting large pauses. So I started pinging. Get ping loss
Truth be told, Brian would be a better choice if he has the time. He's spend
far more time with it that I have.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:41 AM
To: WISPA Gen
For a quick down and dirty "is it worth looking into" Ligo's new online tool is
pretty slick.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA
I've seen that too. It looked the same as Delorme.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Ryan Spott wrote:
> I use National Geographic's Topo! software. It works quite well. Just
> toss the contents of the CD-ROM into the same folder as the software
> and you don't need the CD-ROM at all.
>
> ryan
>
I've done the same for years. The only thing I use RM for is the
backhaul links. -RickG
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Blair Davis wrote:
> It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4
>
> Plot your endpoints, draw a line and look at the trerrian profile. Add
> the antenna heights and you shou
No worries :-)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software
Ah, my apologies! I guess I should have checked
Ah, my apologies! I guess I should have checked that then .
Chuck
On Sep 24, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
> Actually, that was me.
>
> Jerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
> S
I appreciate the input. Thanks!
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
wrote:
> you decide the level of service, personally I think the amplifier is the
> worst choice, I would prefer to use the devices on the tower (and yes we
> have devices on tower with ice).
>
> But you asked for
Agreed. I used some Pac sectors and thought so so of this whole WISP thing.
I put up a couple MTI sectors and wow...
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
Sent: Thursday, Septembe
Actually, that was me.
Jerry
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software
Marlon used Brian Webster.
http://www.roc-noc.com/product.php?productid=134&cat=0&page=1
http://www.roc-noc.com/product.php?productid=181&cat=0&page=1
Tell Tom I sent you.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Matt"
Sent: Thu
The only way to have all electronics at the bottom is to use waveguide.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Paolo Di Francesco"
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:56 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
S
Marlon used Brian Webster.
Chuck
On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> Not to be repetitive, but you are describing RadioMobile
> John the RM Yahoo group and see if you can't get it to do just what
> you
> are looking for.
> Seems to me Marlon Schaffer found someone to help him lea
Why not contract with Brian Webster for a couple of hours. He's a true
expert with the software and it won't take much for him to help you
through the rough patches...and probably show you tricks you'd never
figure out on your own.
His contact info is:
Brian Webster
(607) 286-3465 work
(607
I've looked into doing traditional TV over IP and wireless networks... You
can't obtain a license for traditional TV over wireless networks.
I wouldn't mind coming up with a half assed list of places of good video
content.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.c
Thanks, Marlon. I'll look into those. I know what you mean about Cheap, I
was just meaning inexpensive yet good. If I was "really cheap" I could
always go eBay! YIKES!
Or make my own with some aluminum foil, some metal buckets and elmers glue.
Wouldn't work but they would be cheap.
Bob-
-
Also, define and prove "serious economic consequences". The argument of
some users is that if it wasn't online for free illegally they wouldn't
obtain at any cost.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossib
Again, point 5.
- "open Internet principles apply only to lawful content, services and
> applications -- not to activities like unlawful distribution of copyrighted
> works, which has serious economic consequences."
Of course, how do you know that bittorrent user isn't distributing GNU licensed
Never use cheap antennas! They cost far too much money in the long run.
I like the maxrad units. Not cheap but not really expensive either.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: "Robert West"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:35 AM
Subject: [WISPA] 2.4 Sect
See if MicroCom has a few - sometimes Cayman runs out a few days behind
everyone else.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthu
Which goes to point 5.
> services and applications -- not to activities like unlawful distribution
>
of
copyrighted works, which has serious economic consequences.)
Clint Ricker wrote:
> The language of point 3 is targetting heavy "users", not "applications" that
> may be heavy under some, e
Does anyone know where I can get a couple NS2 units? Seems no one has stock.
Matt
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Does anyone know where I can get a couple NS2 units? Seems no one has stock.
Matt
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I use National Geographic's Topo! software. It works quite well. Just
toss the contents of the CD-ROM into the same folder as the software
and you don't need the CD-ROM at all.
ryan
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
> It may sound stupid, but I use Delorm Topo 4
>
> Plot your
The language of point 3 is targetting heavy "users", not "applications" that
may be heavy under some, even common, circumstances. While it seems like a
small detail, it is, in fact, a big distinction--why should I be blocked
from using bit torrent to download a gutenberg ebook (ie legal & small)
b
Take a look at the third and the fifth bullet points.
--C
Clint Ricker wrote:
> Where is everyone getting that you are allowed to prioritize anything? The
> speech details three points along the subject of prioritization. The Julius
> Genachowski's recent speech specifically said "no prioritiz
you decide the level of service, personally I think the amplifier is the
worst choice, I would prefer to use the devices on the tower (and yes we
have devices on tower with ice).
But you asked for the electronic on the bottom (i.e. all passive) then
you have to choose what is the best trade off fo
I was just thinking that a link that is almost 10 miles shorter should have a
better signal than what we achieved over 28 miles. I really don't know what to
expect out of a StarOS link, as I haven't used it for that kind of distance.
Not knocking one over the other, I just don't know.
Regards
I am fairly familiar with Steve's issues.
I have thought jumper/pigtail for a while, but pretty much ruled that
out when then did the unidirectional tests and both links jump to 12M.
Any thoughts on which cable may be the issue?
They did realign the antennas recently. I know they were supposed
I'm using R52N's on a link that is 28 Miles. Using the same Dish. I have
-60's on the signal, and we can do ~50MBit+ across the link. My first guess is
alignment. We had XR5's on the link, and it was -50. At that distance with
those cards/antennas, your signal should be a little better. Al
I am all too aware of the weakness of wireless networks in regards to
streaming of video.
That said, I cannot see how over the top video is a bad thing for
independent ISPs, even if wireless technology has to make some progress to
handle it. It removes triple play as a competitive advantage for y
We did not try that this time in the past we have had them down as low as 12
but the signal got worse and no real improvement in speed. They are currently
at 14.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@
Are you running the XR5's at full power? Have you tried dialing down the tx
power? We had a similar issue with some dual-pol antennas and had to turn the
tx power down to less than 14db.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Barnes [mailto:st...@pcswin.com]
Sent: 24 September 2009 12:46
To: WI
I have a 18 mile 5GHz Link to 50MB fiber connection. Original config was a
HDDA5W-29-DP, 26 Inch 29 dBi dual pol Pacwireless dish at each end, StarOS War2
boards with 2 XR5 using the StarOS FDX. The link has never performed well.
10meg x 5 was the best I could get running ½ duplex. The Horizo
Where is everyone getting that you are allowed to prioritize anything? The
speech details three points along the subject of prioritization. The Julius
Genachowski's recent speech specifically said "no prioritization"--refer to
section 5.
- "This means they cannot block or degrade lawful traffic
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