I've spent the last two days going through my left for dead pile of
Tranzeo CPQ/5a/SL5/SL2 radios in the shop.Out of 41 radios, I have
been able to get 35 of them resurrected, which was very surprising.
To be fair, about 6 of them didn't appear to have any problems at all, a
firmware
Think about it. How many DSL connections have you encountered that
had a long run of satin phone cord from a block to the DSL modem? I
used to have a DSL connection running on some of the UGLIEST station
cable you can imagine; Scotch locks, stubs, all of it. Yeah it will
work. Is it a good
The number of twists per inch makes a difference as well.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:04 AM
To: 'WISPA General
I believe 100 megs requires 2 pair and Gig requires all 4 pair in addition
to certain quality measures.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Tuesday,
Don't think so, pretty confident gigabit is 2 pair still. Could be wrong...
On 11/18/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
I believe 100 megs requires 2 pair and Gig requires all 4 pair in addition
to certain quality measures.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:00 AM
To: WISPA General List
Either I have a personal problem or these doors are a PITA.
Whats the secret to make it easy? I can get them open, but it is not
something I can do without a screwdriver and two hands while saying obscene
words.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
I know, but the twists are to ward off evil RF and magnetic interference.
If you were in a situation with none of these ambient problems you should be
able to push gigabit through it. But my point was really that never have I
seen the right conditions. You could play MacGyver and wire up a big
There's the confusion. 2 standards. One with 4 pair and one with 2 pair.
Gotta love standards.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
Are you talking about the PowerStation doors? I've had issues with the
gasket sticking but that's all.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:34 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
No I say he is referring to the NS2's and Loco's. Having to push down on
the tab and the get the cover to slide can be annoying. It would be nice
if there was a thumb grip area on the cover to allow traction;)
Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
-Original Message-
From:
Oh, hell. What was I thinking.. Of course they suck, man!!! It's
early...
Hey, Ben! If you're monitoring this thread, how about you guys making the
tab stick out from the bottom so we can push it easily and a few raised or
recessed ridges at the top of the slide off panel. Boy, that
I was curious, how many of you folks use the External Antenna connection on
the Nanostation and how are you using them? I have never utilized it but
last night a customer asked about a wireless router to add a laptop to their
service and thought about installing an external antenna to the NS2 and
I am looking for a 3.65Ghz Grid antenna for a customer.
Can anyone help me source one that can 100% guaranty shipping today?
Thanks,
Jeff
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
That's interesting... I got to to looking and I don't see any either.
That's different. I have plans to go to 3.6 in a few months, I don't see
that happening without all the necessary pieces, as in ANTENNAS. I never
would have guessed.
Let me know what you find out. I would have thought
I just got my 1 and only wds client off of wds.
He had a neighbor at the bottom of a hill that wanted service so I came
up with the idea of using wds to get them service.
It worked but if you have to change channels on the access point the wds
client will not change automatically. You have to
After re reading you post I realized that you are using it a different
way that what I did.
I used AP WDS mode. Station WDS will probably work ok.
LaRoy McCann
Robert West wrote:
I was curious, how many of you folks use the External Antenna connection on
the Nanostation and how are you using
Or change the clients channel first before you change the AP... Also in WDS
slave mode the client will automatically follow the AP
/ Eje
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Data Technology
Sent: Wednesday, November 18,
Anyone know where (if?) I can get a PCI card to connect to a T1 for less
than the $400 or so I have found on my own?
I'd like to Integrate some of my equipment and eliminate a cisco 2610
that's really doing nothing but converting my T1 to an ethernet port.
It's no worth $400 to do this
Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps.
My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do 100Mbps+
on cat 3? Not according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If such an
animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked.
We may be in
Rick,
Do you provide 100mbps service to consumer level connections via
wireless links?
If I can get 4-12mbits down a cat3 or telco wire for a home user then
then I'll probably go for it. ;)
Ryan
On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:06 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Those old phone line units
VDSL equipment can get up to the 70Mbps range or so...
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
http://www.versatek.com/products/vxveb160r2.htm
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06:37PM -0500, RickG wrote:
Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps.
My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do 100Mbps+
on cat 3? Not according to this:
Exactly. Can it be done. Sure! What would it take to do it out in the
field? Way too much!!!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
DSL is much different than Ethernet. Higher peak to peak voltage, only needs
one pair, will run with dialtone, tolerates splices, etc. Phone lines are
typically daisy chained from jack to jack - even if it's 6-pair. The pairs are
pulled out depending on which line you want to tap.
Ethernet is
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
The conductors on phone wire are thicker giving more surface area for the
electrons to play on, more than the thin Cat5.
Huh? What type of phone wire are you referring to?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Robert West
There was a technology that used all 4 pairs. It was a proprietary solution
that put Video on one set and data on the other. Broadxxx or something like
that.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent:
Of course we love standards, that's why there's so many!!!
Jerry
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:39 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
Whats your point? Considering that most internet connections are less than
10Mbps, DSL will work fine over phone line.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
Think about it. How many DSL connections have you encountered that
had a long run of satin phone cord from a
Also, solid core versus stranded wire.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:
The number of twists per inch makes a difference as well.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Yeah, but to just go up and punch in a cat5 jack to the phone wiring just
ain't gonna cut it.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject:
The prevalent standard uses all 4, they tried one that did just 2, but it
didn't take hold as it required higher quality cabling.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Jerry Richardson
Standard Old School residential phone wire. Heavy gauge 2 pair. Red,
black, yellow, green. At least around here, Ohio, the Telco installed some
pretty stiff wire.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent:
I just went through a round of doing this exact same thing. In the end, I'm
not sure it was worth the time. I think I'll just buy new units from now on.
As they say YMMV!
-RickG
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote:
I've spent the last two days going
I'll add, when copper pennies were COPPER PENNIES! No need back then to be
concerned about wire thickness versus cost. Over engineered wire.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, November 18,
What are you running on the PC that you want to add the card to? I like
integration equipment as well but you're probably better of letting the
Cisco do its job and the PC do its job. -RickG
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote:
Anyone know where (if?) I can
At one point I was desperate and used some cat3 keystones with cat5 cabling
worked fine for some of the short runs I did but one of the runs was almost
100ft and I had to force the network card into 10mbit mode to be able to get
any communication going through that link (it would auto neg at
The pc is Linux and acts as a nat and dns/dhcp server.
It connects to the 2610 with a crossover cable.
Ultimately, I want to put everything in an outdoor enclosure and hang
it on a pole
Is this terribly harder to do than set up a 2610?
Jason
RickG wrote:
What are you running on the
Get a Cisco 1720 and stick it in an outdoor case. Should be cheap on ebay.
Jason Wallace wrote:
The pc is Linux and acts as a nat and dns/dhcp server.
It connects to the 2610 with a crossover cable.
Ultimately, I want to put everything in an outdoor enclosure and hang it
on a pole
Is
You might be better off in talking to the ImageStream folks to see if you
can do on their router what you are doing on the linux box.
Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
_
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Your not saying what you plan to use the card with. Digium have some nice T1
cards at affordable price and some other are listed on Asterisk supported
hardware that are affordable. But none of those are supported by MikroTik or
Imagestream. If your using a DIY router running linux you could
Ryan,
Sure, I've done 100Mbps wireless links. But thats not the point. Forbes
originally posted that cat3 will do 100Mbps. I doubt it but if such
equipment exists then I'd like to have that in my war chest. Having ways to
do all kinds of things is very handy. With that said, your point is
Is that both directions? Maybe thats the answer to Forbes question? -RickG
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:
VDSL equipment can get up to the 70Mbps range or so...
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From:
If I read the specs correctly, it only does 10Mbps over cat3. To get the
higher speeds you need cat 5 or better. -RickG
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote:
http://www.versatek.com/products/vxveb160r2.htm
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06:37PM -0500, RickG wrote:
That was my next question :)
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
wrote:
DSL is much different than Ethernet. Higher peak to peak voltage, only
needs one pair, will run with dialtone, tolerates splices, etc. Phone lines
are typically daisy chained from
Oh, I thought you meant the slick silver stuff :)
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Standard Old School residential phone wire. Heavy gauge 2 pair. Red,
black, yellow, green. At least around here, Ohio, the Telco installed some
pretty stiff
But the word Reliably is on the description. So it can reliably carry
10mbps but we all know you can push it farther, as in running gigabit over
Cat5. All depends on your environment.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
The cheapeast option from ImageStream will be 1200 - the transport.
The envoy is super weak and is only good for the same place could use
an rb750. RB750 probably has more horsepower but I'm not sure.
On 11/18/09, e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
Your not saying what you plan
Yep... I wouldn't use this specific product in a house... but it's the only
VDSL equipment I have firsthand experience with.
http://tinyurl.com/yefhy2q
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:21 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
The cheapeast option from ImageStream will be 1200 - the transport.
The envoy is super weak and is only good for the same place could use
an rb750. RB750 probably has more horsepower but I'm not sure.
Not true. ImageStream has a
If you really get stuck, the Netgear PowerLine thingy's actually work.
Otherwise NetSys Ethernet repeaters will do 25Mbps.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:25 AM
To:
Sent too quickly
they also have solutions that will do 100Mbps over POTS...
I will say that I was extremely impressed by the Moto/Tut presentation.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Wednesday,
I am changing all my network out to Mikrotik and have 8 various StarOS War1,
War2, and Wrap boards that I plan to sell on Ebay. I never really learned how
to mess with these so is there a easy way to reset all these back to factory or
do I have to do it one at a time with putty? And what is
You can connect to the serial port and reset to default config. I don't
remember the serial port settings.
If I remember right, the compact flash card holds the StarOS software.
If you clear them you have lost StarOS.
LaRoy McCann
Steve Barnes wrote:
I am changing all my network out to
I currently have several PacWireless 17dBi V-POL 90deg sectors up. I'm sure we
are taking a performance hit using a cheap antenna.
Other options range from 300 to 1500. Before I make another mistake, I am
looking for comments on the following:
- Radio Waves Pro-Vider PRO-24V-90-16 @ $418
-
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:41 -0500, Steve Barnes wrote:
I am changing all my network out to Mikrotik and have 8
various StarOS War1, War2, and Wrap boards that I plan to
sell on Ebay. I never really learned how to mess with
these so is there a easy way to reset all these back to
factory
Send me a list and prices. I am buying star-os stuff.
purchasing AT neofast.net
--
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Reset StarOS
I am
Ok, so we are passing back and forth negatives/positives of our current
SMTP policy, and are looking for answers on what others are doing. I'm
going to list what we have done, currently doing, and looking for
feedback on what you do...
Option 1.
Block all outgoing port 25 with the exception
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 15:29, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
Ok, so we are passing back and forth negatives/positives of our current
SMTP policy, and are looking for answers on what others are doing. I'm
going to list what we have done, currently doing, and looking for
feedback on
We turned it on and do:
550 This mail server requires authentication when attempting to send to
a non-local e-mail address. Please see
http://www.shelbybb.com/email.aspx for more info.
Had a few calls, but not too bad. Most people get that error, go to the
webpage, and follow instructions.
We have a blend of Option 2... All outgoing Port 25 is blocked except for
our mail server, relaying is allowed by authenticated using the users
primary account info (username/password) ON OUR NETWORK ONLY. Postini is
used to filter outbound messages to spam server issues... All inbound to the
In a word: don't.
T1s are incredibly dependent upon timing, and due to technical issues, PCs
don't really do this well. They generally work but are typically plagued by
lockups / higher error rates than traditional TDM hardware.
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net
Outbound is limited to 10 connections, once you hit that, NO outbound
until I look at it. :) Mail servers that we know of we increase that a
bit, but they have a public, and are responsible for spam etc and such.
---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA,
Looking for an x86 compatible board of some kind with at least 3 or (better)
more ethernet ports.
Anyone have suggestions?
Needs to have enough cpu power to route full 100m ethernet speed.gigE
would be even better.
I've not found such a beast... but I need one where there's no ac power,
I've bought these to run routerOS very successfully:
http://rackmountmart.stores.yahoo.net/newrmexshor1.html
looks like they have a newer faster version too. I haven't tried this
yet.
http://rackmountmart.stores.yahoo.net/nermexsh1ura.html
As you can see they are fanless and have a laptop style
They make ITX Mini ITX boards (Geocode or ATOM Processor) which can be
powered with 12vdc
Depending on what form factor you are limited to you can add additional
Ethernet port using a 4 port PCI card.
Or
Something like this:
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/jad3rtlanp-lf-p-4653.html
We have purchased different units from this page and they work well.
http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/network-appliances-c-283_288.html
They will usually work with you on price if you have quantity needs.
http://www.axiomtek.com/Products/ListProduct.asp?ptype1=224Ptype2=225P
type3=173
You
There's the confusion. 2 standards. One with 4 pair and one with 2 pair.
Gotta love standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-T
The Motorola PTP600 has a GigE port and POE. So will POE still work with GigE?
Matt
In a word: don't.
T1s are incredibly dependent upon timing, and due to technical issues, PCs
don't really do this well. They generally work but are typically plagued by
lockups / higher error rates than traditional TDM hardware.
Ran Cyclades T1 cards in Mikrotik routers for years without
Ok, so we are passing back and forth negatives/positives of our current
SMTP policy, and are looking for answers on what others are doing. I'm
going to list what we have done, currently doing, and looking for
feedback on what you do...
If I could start over I would make everyone authenticate
Yes... although be careful what surge suppressors you use :-)
Dragonwave also uses GigE with PoE for instance on the Horizon Compact.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf
We outsource out email and do not run our own server. We also have way
too many work from home users who all have their own business email
addresses they need to access. So we do not block port 25 in any way.
All customers get their own IP address (most are dynamic, but rarely
change). All of
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d13.htm
- Original Message -
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: [WISPA] X86 low power board w/3 or more ethernet
Looking for an x86 compatible board of some kind
We've had excellent results with these. Cheap, powerful and reliable.
George
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Sharples
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] X86 low
The Envoy router will run two T1s at wirespeed under just about any
condition.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
Butch, Why dont you return my calls or emails??? Joe Laura/Superior
Wireless
- Original Message -
From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Reset StarOS
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at
Butch, I really need to get my radios back!!!Joe Laura/Superior
Wireless
- Original Message -
From: Joe Laura joela...@superior1.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Reset StarOS
Butch, Why dont you
Hi All,
What are you using for grid antennas? I really don't like the Pac Wireless
ones. But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
name) ones are being discontinued.
Suggestions?
marlon
Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not heard any complaints...
have not seen them myself though.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
We authenticate all outbound email too.
It's not perfect, but it's worked pretty well. A better email log (and
authenticating every message vs. every connection) would make it even
better.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General List
Got a link? What vendor?
thanks,
marlon
- Original Message -
From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
Try Advanced Antenna... I've sold a few and have not
There's these:
http://www.mbsicanada.com/index.php?page=shop.product_detailscategory_id=246flypage=shop.flypageproduct_id=1441option=com_virtuemartItemid=1
and these:
http://rfantennadesign.com/page6.html
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Hi All,
In our efforts to further the WISP industry and make it easier for everyone
to keep on top of what's going on out there we've hired some help to keep
the WISPA site at the fore front of the WISP industry.
The first article from Alex Goldman (formerly of isp-planet) is online.
I believe the first one is Andrew based, so will it be around?
The second looks exactly like a Pac Wireless, don't like 'em.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:02 PM
The RF Antenna Design uses a much beefier bracket - not flimsy like the pac
wireless.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 16:29 -0500, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Ok, so we are passing back and forth negatives/positives of our current
SMTP policy, and are looking for answers on what others are doing. I'm
going to list what we have done, currently doing, and looking for
feedback on what you do...
I
Hyperlink.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Hi All,
What are you using for grid antennas? I really don't like the Pac Wireless
ones. But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new
name) ones are being discontinued.
Suggestions?
marlon
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