WE are happy with SAF, DW and Trango all have diff pricepoints,
overall winner on dollar/ value is SAF
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf
Hi Gino,
what is missing from SAF compared to DW and Trango?
I will take a look to the documents, but you know manuals don't tell
the whole story ;)
Thank you
WE are happy with SAF, DW and Trango all have diff pricepoints,
overall winner on dollar/ value is SAF
Gino A. Villarini
Ceragon today is NOT the same Ceragon it was 3 years ago.
Unlike many here when it comes to choosing equipment I don't chase the
price point. I look at who supplies the outstanding support. I look
for the company that has my back when I am up against the wall with a
dead link.
And until
I'm not sure of it's complete specifications, but Proxim just came out
with a licensed product. GX800, I believe. I forget which booth I was
at (MoonBlink, maybe) where they told me that the Proxim is about the
same price point as the other licensed products out there, only there
are no
I have a Dragonwave link that was performing about 35-40db lower than
the link budget says it should. I sent tower climbers up to repeak the
link and found they did have it on aligned on a horizontal side lobe.
After re-peaking it got better, but is now about 15-20db lower than the
link
Sounds like a side lobe...we had the same issue...link was coming in
at -70...link budget said -50...finally got it out of the side lobe
and within 1-2 dB of the link path.
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Bill Gaylord bi...@torchlake.com wrote:
I have a Dragonwave link that was
15-20db off typically means cross polarization. Have you double and triple
checked they are both on the same polarity?
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bill Gaylord
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:13 AM
To:
That was my next reply to Josh.what series or model of Ceragon has he used.
All our Ceragon links have been the older Fibeair 1500 series. There were a
few re-branded versions of this radio for Nortel and maybe another name too.
I think even Lockheed or General Dynamics had these relabeled under
Are you at full tx power or full modulation? 256qam will take out something
like 7dbm.
On Nov 5, 2010 9:12 AM, Bill Gaylord bi...@torchlake.com wrote:
I have a Dragonwave link that was performing about 35-40db lower than
the link budget says it should. I sent tower climbers up to repeak the
I can't memorize the weird model numbers. It was installed probably 5 or 6
years ago. It had an arp bug they took at year and two on site trips to
fix.
I could recognize them if you had pictures.
On Nov 5, 2010 9:39 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
That was my next reply to Josh.what
Yes, I have. Thanks. That is the same thing I had though of the first
time around.
Bill Gaylord, President
COLI Inc.
On 11/5/2010 9:38 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
15-20db off typically means cross polarization. Have you double and triple
checked they are both on the same polarity?
Brad
OK, I will try the Vertical Alignment again to see if it is on a
vertical side lobe. I will give that a try next week and see what
happens. Thanks.
Bill Gaylord, President
COLI Inc.
On 11/5/2010 9:37 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Sounds like a side lobe...we had the same issue...link was coming in
I'll hazard a guess here that Radwin was OEMing boxes from Ceragon at the time
then. That's like me complaining about Redline if I had problems with
Alvarion's old Link Blaster, which was an OEM'd Redline point-to-point
product. If I bought it from Alvarion and didn't get support, then it's
Bill
You can bang the physical dish up pretty good and not need to worry. The
feedhorn is the most critical unit. Which Dragonwave radio are you using?
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
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From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
To: 'WISPA General List'
About the same pricing, can mean a lot of things. About the same pricing
could mean a $1000 difference.
With Trango, the upgrade key doesn;t cost much more than that.
Allthough always good to see new products entered into the market.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Actually, I feel one of the flaws to the Dragonwave is that their clips to the
antenna easilly can break if not careful when connecting them.
Trango's are much more durable. (actually I'm not talking about the clips, but
the metal-like part that the clips grab). On Andrews these parts are on
It is the horizon 150Mbps.
Bill Gaylord, President
COLI Inc.
On 11/5/2010 12:28 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
Bill
You can bang the physical dish up pretty good and not need to worry.
The feedhorn is the most critical unit. Which Dragonwave radio are
you using?
/Sent via DROID on Verizon
My opinion is that the dish damage probably would not cause much RSSI loss.
(unless severe, but if it was severe I'm sure you never would ahve installed
it). If part of the dish was bent, you'd need to determine what percentage
of teh surface area was effected not reflecting to the correct
No Coax, the radio mounts directly to the antenna. I will climb myself
and re-peak the vertical alignment Monday. Thanks Tom.
Bill
On 11/5/2010 1:25 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
My opinion is that the dish damage probably would not cause much RSSI loss.
(unless severe, but if it was severe I'm
They've released several new firmware upgrades in the last 1-2 years,
and support AAM (that actually works) and hitless-AAM now. HAAM has
been great for us with the occasional ducting we get in the valley. I
can deal with it dropping from 280MBps to 110Mbps at 6am rather than
dropping the link
The key to this thread is NS2 - Not NSM2
They are different and the power supplies they can operate of are also
different... some NS2's will not work with 24v. Just fyi...
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: Tom DeReggi
Trango does what now too?
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 1:40 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops
Trango
If you want to leverage dual pol with XPIC you could look at Dragonwave
quantum.
On 11/04/2010 02:20 PM, Matt wrote:
We are looking at upgrading our network and adding a handful(7) 11ghz
licensed hops. What gear out there can use both horizontal and
vertical at once to increase throughput?
This must be strange propagation month.
We've got a new installer who put a 900 MHz canopy with a yagi pointing to
the south side of one of our towers 6 miles away. He gets a 56 signal, but
it's really unreliable for some reason.
He goes out there again to re-sight, same issues after a
How long has Exalt been doing licensed gear? Is it pretty good gear?
Does SAF allow you to use a dual polarity dish in 11ghz and bond both
polarities for additional bandwidth? Can both polarities be done on
the same channel?
900 is Voodoo
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From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010
Not sure where dual polarities come in to play with licensed gear. I know
that your PCN strictly states V or H.
The SAF CFIP Lumina uses 50Mhz one way and 50Mhz the other way to get full
duplex. Each channel with 256qam does 325mbps.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
I was refering to the Trango having a Combiner option now, that allowed two
Apexes to share one antenna via 1 horiz and 1 V pol.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Scott Carullo
To: WISPA General List
Sent:
You coordinate two paths. We have a Trango GigaLINK 6GHz link using two
radio pairs and a combiner plate attaching to one antenna on each end. One
radio set is V the other is H. Gives us twice the capacity (165MB x 2) plus
failover in the event one ODU or IDU fails plus Frequency diversity for
There was interest in the upgrade outline, so here it is. This was for
a 11GHz Horizon Compact, but I think the process is the same for 18GHz
as well. Please also read the release notes for yourself. It worked
for me, but buyer beware. If you're running pre 1.01.00, the process to
get up to
Saf has the option of dual pol combiner as well
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:59 PM
To: WISPA
Can you use 40Mhz channels with the trangos on 11Ghz for 300Mb
throughput? I thought we were limited to 40mhz on our apexes for a ~268max
throughput...
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
Sent:
No, I do not think so. FCC limits 11GHz channel size to 40MHz. However,
165 + 165 = 330, so that gets you beyond 300MB in 6GHz with a combiner and
265 + 265 = 530 in 11GHz with a combiner plate.
Brad
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott
Any discussion on best way to combine the two links from the DATA FLOW
perspective or TCIP/IP perspective?
The average Mikrotik Loadbalancer may not handle that 800mbps link all that
well.
Are people using Switch level trunk aggregation, or layer3 aggregation methods?
OR just running two
Brad is correct. 40Mhz max, due to FCC regs in 11Ghz.
Note, some LIcensed 11Ghz gear is capable to be configured to 56Mhz channels
sizes because some other countries's regulatory bodies allow 56Mhz channels.
For example, I'm pretty sure England does.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
This is lengthy, but worth discussion, I think...
I just had a long meeting with our general manager about Systems Management
(monitoring, documenting, updating, etc)
Let me explain...
We ALL have systems to
1. monitor our network
2. document our systems (IP addresses, equipment type, etc)
3.
I can tell you how I solved these problems but it might start a big thread
again...
The key is to force the documentation, activity (monitoring, cpe function)
and billing in sync. I've not seen multiple applications stay together by
human hand. Maybe it would work if someone's entire job was
We have a 2-pronged approach, actually...
Tech brings checklist back, someone in office processes it and slaps tech
around if not complete or accurate enough to process...
:) With the right person in the office, this is just beginning to show signs of
progress.
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My old system of writing it all on the back my business cards and discarded
Burger King napkins found on the floor of the van worked for awhile but
quickly failed. Napkins sometimes got used for other purposes after they
had the information on them so I have a no napkin rule as a result. Paper
Yeah, when your goal is 2-3 COMPLETED installs per day, that system quickly
gets out of hand ;). Other companies on this list go for far more than me, too.
- Original Message -
From: Robert West
To: 'WISPA General List'
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:52 PM
Subject: Re:
Also, we USED to have HUMONGOUS discrepancies in setting speed limits for
customers before the traffic management was integrated with the billing system.
We use Powercode for this right now.
In the beginning, we speed limited people at each AP. The biggest problem then
was that people were
I am looking at comments or recommendations for a Juniper M20. I was
looking at a PowerRouter 2200 (or equivalent), but someone I'm working
with on this project said a Juniper M20 would be a better choice for the
type of application I'm looking at. Recommendations\comments?
I am looking to
IMO you only go with the M line if you need OC cards.
MX80 would be a better fit if you are all ethernet.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
I am looking at comments or recommendations for a Juniper M20. I was
looking at a PowerRouter 2200 (or
How much aggregate throughput are you looking to handle?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
I am looking at comments or recommendations for a Juniper M20. I was
looking at a PowerRouter 2200 (or equivalent), but someone I'm working
Somewhere between 1 and 5 gigs. Probably 1 - 2.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 11/5/2010 5:39 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
How much aggregate throughput are you looking to handle?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Mike
We can help you with that, if you are open to it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
Somewhere between 1 and 5 gigs. Probably 1 - 2.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 11/5/2010
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 02:34:01PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote:
This is lengthy, but worth discussion, I think...
Unless there is a good process in place to ensure that these
systems get updated when components on our networks are
added/removed/replaced/changed.
That place is the billing
This is why we wrote wispmon. Handles virtually all this in a single platform.
Cameron
On Friday, November 5, 2010, Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org wrote:
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 02:34:01PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote:
This is lengthy, but worth discussion, I think...
Unless there is a good
This automagically happens when your script to automagically update
Nagios removes accounts which are marked as inactive.
Be careful with that idea. Automating that almost killed us. The reason is
that sometimes you may want to disable monitoring on an account that is
live, because it may be
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
Any discussion on best way to combine the two links from the DATA FLOW
perspective or TCIP/IP perspective?
The average Mikrotik Loadbalancer may not handle that 800mbps link all that
well.
Are people using Switch
Scott hit the nail on the head with a number points so I will not rehash them,
but I do agree you should integrate most of that info with your billing system
(PowerCode, if I'm not mistaken).
We've written scripts to integrate our billing system, Platypus, with all of
the back-end systems used
I have an application I created myself with php and mysql. When I do
an install, I login to our server register the customer info along
with the cpe mac, model, and ip. It assigns the customer 512kbps/
128kbps by default. It keeps track of the billing info: balance, etc.
It cancels if no
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
Also, we USED to have HUMONGOUS discrepancies in setting speed
limits for customers before the traffic management was integrated
with the billing system. We use Powercode for this right now.
In the
Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast
that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch?
Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too. I want to start using something
like this for our site surveys because it would be much easier than
getting out the
Per Mike Ford:
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Hello,
Nanostation is 12V to 24V, Bullet is 5V to 24V.
Thanks,
Mike
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
The key to this thread is NS2 - Not NSM2
They are different and the power
Dude! I showed ya once. The Nuclear Torpedo
Wilbert Mast Pain in the A** (WISPA RULES PREVAIL)
Site surveys always a BS thing.
What I do is make the link calculations, print out the path THEN go to the
site and see the big mass of trees right in the path. Walk
Sadly. I agree! J
I think most of us were there in the beginning!
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 5:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Systems Management - Process
Scott,
You are focused correctly. BILLING! It all has to orbit around billing or
we may as well stay home.
Unless, of course the billing server is at home, then it's okay to do other
things... Like scrapbooking and laminating things with the wife.
Hm...
Billing needs
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