Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Reed
For most things $60/hour. I think out installer/repair contractor gets $35/hour for hourly work. Flat $80 for installations and a flat $35 if he goes to a installation and it doesn't work. RickG wrote: Ya, that may be the way to go. What are you paying per hour? On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-15 Thread Scott Reed
Have you considered per hour rates with a minimum trip charge to the customer? We do a flat rate install charge and pay the installer a flat rate. Repairs are done per hour, usually minimum 15 minutes charging the customer 50% more than we pay the repair person. RickG wrote: Some of the rates

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-15 Thread RickG
Ya, that may be the way to go. What are you paying per hour? On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Have you considered per hour rates with a minimum trip charge to the customer? We do a flat rate install charge and pay the installer a flat rate. Repairs

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread Robert West
. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule It's 18 everywhere, that's NEC rules. I tell people what code is then let them handle the ditch... Also, we NEVER direct bury anymore. Eventually the gophers or something will get

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread RickG
It sounds like you are a character! I'm glad your marketing and service efforts are paying off. I actually have had much the same results. Good work and Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Actually, since they are a cellular company and can have unlimited

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread RickG
OK, back to my original question: Does anyone have a fee schedule for their installer/repair subcontractors? I'm trying to cover every possible scenario. Here is what I've put together: Subcontractor Fee Schedule $75 – Standard installation of KyWiFi customer premises equipment according to

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread Blair Davis
Unless you are paying mileage or providing a vehicle, some of those #'s are too low. When I was a contractor, I would not drive to a site for less than $15 within a 25 mile radius of the shop. RickG wrote: OK, back to my original question: Does anyone have a fee schedule for their

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread John Vogel
I think most of the items you are proposing to pay less than $30 dollars for are too cheap. I wouldn't want to do those things for those amounts. Especially if I have to drive to the customer's home to do them. John RickG wrote: OK, back to my original question: Does anyone have a fee schedule

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread RickG
Some of the rates I posted assumed the installer was already on site for an installation. I'm just need to consider trouble calls so I revised the schedule below. I used to give $25 per service call but the problem I ran into was that they would go out to a customer's find nothing or perhaps

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread Mike
Actually, since they are a cellular company and can have unlimited bandwidth, they are faster right now. That will change as they build out. The customer money stays local instead of going out of town when they shop with me. I write a weekly column for the paper so am well known in the area;

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Sorry Marlon; you'll have to show me. Not only is there no burial depth requirement for limited energy

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread RickG
But, do the ones who have a choice for cheaper service and out of contract stay with you? -RickG On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Similar to your example of perceived value, we extract a capital fee up front when putting on a new customer.  My accountant described

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Curtis Maurand
Around here, ethernet drops run $100.00 each. Your price is very reasonable. --Curtis RickG wrote: Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair?

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Curtis Maurand
You must be in the south where the ground doesn't freeze. Up here in the great white north, you need to go down 18 inches. --C Mike wrote: When I was a young man, a writer, I was idealistic and ready to conquer the world. In short order I grew up and lost my idealism. Since starting

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Ethernet drops are 100/each here too but a repair isn't the same IMO. On 10/13/09, Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.com wrote: Around here, ethernet drops run $100.00 each. Your price is very reasonable. --Curtis RickG wrote: Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Mike
No you don't. I have *several* direct burials just inches down. I dug them just the way I said. There's nothing to freeze? My business IS in the frozen north; Iowa. At 12:22 PM 10/13/2009, you wrote: You must be in the south where the ground doesn't freeze. Up here in the great white

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Mike
Rick: The competition that came at me is 39.00. Mine, if you pay promptly is 42.50. They intentionally came in under me. Like I've said, only 2 have jumped ship. At 11:08 AM 10/13/2009, you wrote: But, do the ones who have a choice for cheaper service and out of contract stay with you?

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Curtis Maurand
In that case I usually get $75.00/hr on-site plus $25.00/hr travel each direction plus materials. --Curtis Josh Luthman wrote: Ethernet drops are 100/each here too but a repair isn't the same IMO. On 10/13/09, Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.com wrote: Around here, ethernet drops run

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Curtis Maurand
I would never do it that way. too much chance of someone crunching it if its not down far enough. ground expands and thaws and that can sever a cable. I know this doesn't classify as electrical, but electrical code around here is 18 deep. --C Mike wrote: No you don't. I have *several*

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread RickG
Is it a comparable service? What do you give versus what they give? On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Rick: The competition that came at me is 39.00.  Mine, if you pay promptly is 42.50.  They intentionally came in under me.  Like I've said, only 2 have jumped

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
nowadays. Life is sooo much better this way. marlon - Original Message - From: Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule I would never do it that way. too much chance

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Mike Hammett
, October 13, 2009 8:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule It's 18 everywhere, that's NEC rules. I tell people what code is then let them handle the ditch... Also, we NEVER direct bury anymore. Eventually the gophers or something will get

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-13 Thread Mike
either (at least *I* won't). We put all underground in conduit nowadays. Life is sooo much better this way. marlon - Original Message - From: Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable

[WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread RickG
Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Chuck Hogg
, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Scott Carullo
Depends who put it there and why If u needed it to provide service I'd just fix it It it was put to hook up another room for cust at their request I'd charge time and material Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:52 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Fixing it for free is a really bad idea, in my opinion. $50 is very reasonable and a good price. What if it had been some scissor happy kid that cut it and not a tree branch? Can you really tell the difference what caused the problem sometimes? I don't advise doing this stuff for free because

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Robert West
I agree. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Depends who put it there and why If u needed

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Scott Carullo
Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Mike
If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for materials. You may just retain that customer for the next two years because of your good will. If he is prepared for $50 and its easy and doesn't take you long, you can say give me $20.00 for the cable and the custom ends, and

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Jerry Richardson
More than fair. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule More than

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Tom Sharples
: [WISPA] billable fee schedule More than fair. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Andy Trimmell
We would charge $75 with this occurrence, you're very fair. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule FWIW we

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Hensley
we charge them a one-time $50 service call fee. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread RickG
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread RickG
I used to think that but I have found no matter how much you give away, there is no loyalty! The monthly rate is all most care about. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for materials.  You may just retain

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread RickG
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread RickG
Oh, I'm actually looking for a rate schedule to pay contracted installers for trouble calls. I.e. Replace radio = $15 Rerun cable = $30 etc. etc. -RickG On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Mike
When I was a young man, a writer, I was idealistic and ready to conquer the world. In short order I grew up and lost my idealism. Since starting this business I have regained some of that idealism. My experience is the opposite. I usually take care of those customers who need minor help

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread RickG
Mike, Since I began working, even as a teenager, I worked 60-80 hours a week giving customers the best I could. I'm now 49 and still work at least that many hours. At least now, I own my company and do it for myself. In fact, before I owned my own company my reputation was Mr.Service. Heck, I've

Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-12 Thread Mike
Similar to your example of perceived value, we extract a capital fee up front when putting on a new customer. My accountant described it like joining a health club, you get to use the equipment but don't get to take it home. The fee is the real cost of installing. Easy ones are 150 bucks.