Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
Similar to your example of perceived value, we extract a capital fee up front when putting on a new customer. My accountant described it like joining a health club, you get to use the equipment but don't get to take it home. The fee is the real cost of installing. Easy ones are 150 bucks. Others vary according to difficulty. So they buy in to the whole thing from the get go. Our rates are 45.00. If you pay on time, from email billing, you take off 2.50 and its 42.50. I think I have a very loyal bunch of customers. I didn't know what to expect when the two year contracts started expiring, but MOST have stayed with us. Best Regards, Mike At 09:47 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >Mike, > >Since I began working, even as a teenager, I worked 60-80 hours a week >giving customers the best I could. I'm now 49 and still work at least >that many hours. At least now, I own my company and do it for myself. >In fact, before I owned my own company my reputation was "Mr.Service". >Heck, I've watched the sun rise from a customers computers! People >have always told me I have a great work ethic. I have always thought - >give'em great service and they'll stick. It's not true! Given the >opportunity, for less than $5/month they WILL switch without even an >apology! >So, dont get me wrong, I still give great service but have realized I >have previously given too much. All I did was take a lot of time away >from my family to help customers that only appreciate it at the time. >Again, I'm not saying dont give great service - what I am saying is >dont give away the store. Maybe you can afford it but every move you >make should be profitable, otherwise you will end up out of business >or in a poor mental state from work burnout. Have you ever looked at >the competition knowing you give better service yet they are still >winning? In fact, I've seen more people respect the competition >because they are higher priced or charge for everything. It is truly a >mindset. I believe there is a balance that must constantly be >maintained. Which is why I asked the question, billable or not? >Again, your business model may be different but using you scenario >below is difficult to achieve in mine. Perhaps your monthly rates are >higher, installation higher, or your bottom line is not as important >to you? Somebody always has to pay the piper. Most people understand >capitolism and the need to be profitable so you can pay the bills. >What good is it to go out of business just so they can go back to dial >up? >Furthermore, I have found another interesting outcome by giving work >away - other customers either come to expect it or get jealous. >What is really expected by the customers who give you their hard >earned money is a good product for what they pay. They also deserve an >efficiently run company with proper business practices to get the most >bang for their bucks. And on that note, isnt there always something to >do to improve the network? Why give so much time to one customer when >you can work on the network and improve it for all? I realzie you said >minor things but it all adds up. What they should expect is exactly >what you put in the contract and/or TOS. In my case, it's the >bandwidth I promised them and working equipment to get it there. All >else is not part of the contract and therefore should be billable. > >-RickG > >On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Mike wrote: > > When I was a young man, a writer, I was idealistic and ready to > > conquer the world. In short order I grew up and lost my > > idealism. Since starting this business I have regained some of > that idealism. > > > > My experience is the opposite. I usually take care of those > > customers who need minor help with things THEY consider part of MY > > network. I would not have gone overhead unless there was no way to > > trench. Direct burial cable is cheap. A trench can be made with a > > power edger with a new blade. An aerial should be tied to a > > supporting rope or wire. > > > > Most of my customers knew they couldn't get Internet except slow > > dialup before we came along. Is it loyalty? A new company has been > > selling in my county off of their cellular towers. I have only lost > > 2 customers to them. > > > > Never underestimate the power of good customer service. > > > > Mike > > > > At 07:58 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: > >>I used to think that but I have found no matter how much you give > >>away, there is no loyalty! The monthly rate is all most care about. > >> > >>On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike wrote: > >> > If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for > >> > materials. You may just retain that customer for the next two years > >> > because of your good will. > >> > > >> > If he is prepared for $50 and its easy and doesn't take you long, > >> > you can say give me $20.00 for the cable and the custom ends, and > >> > we'll call it even. > >> > > >> > Either way, you'll make a friend/keep a customer;
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
Mike, Since I began working, even as a teenager, I worked 60-80 hours a week giving customers the best I could. I'm now 49 and still work at least that many hours. At least now, I own my company and do it for myself. In fact, before I owned my own company my reputation was "Mr.Service". Heck, I've watched the sun rise from a customers computers! People have always told me I have a great work ethic. I have always thought - give'em great service and they'll stick. It's not true! Given the opportunity, for less than $5/month they WILL switch without even an apology! So, dont get me wrong, I still give great service but have realized I have previously given too much. All I did was take a lot of time away from my family to help customers that only appreciate it at the time. Again, I'm not saying dont give great service - what I am saying is dont give away the store. Maybe you can afford it but every move you make should be profitable, otherwise you will end up out of business or in a poor mental state from work burnout. Have you ever looked at the competition knowing you give better service yet they are still winning? In fact, I've seen more people respect the competition because they are higher priced or charge for everything. It is truly a mindset. I believe there is a balance that must constantly be maintained. Which is why I asked the question, billable or not? Again, your business model may be different but using you scenario below is difficult to achieve in mine. Perhaps your monthly rates are higher, installation higher, or your bottom line is not as important to you? Somebody always has to pay the piper. Most people understand capitolism and the need to be profitable so you can pay the bills. What good is it to go out of business just so they can go back to dial up? Furthermore, I have found another interesting outcome by giving work away - other customers either come to expect it or get jealous. What is really expected by the customers who give you their hard earned money is a good product for what they pay. They also deserve an efficiently run company with proper business practices to get the most bang for their bucks. And on that note, isnt there always something to do to improve the network? Why give so much time to one customer when you can work on the network and improve it for all? I realzie you said minor things but it all adds up. What they should expect is exactly what you put in the contract and/or TOS. In my case, it's the bandwidth I promised them and working equipment to get it there. All else is not part of the contract and therefore should be billable. -RickG On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Mike wrote: > When I was a young man, a writer, I was idealistic and ready to > conquer the world. In short order I grew up and lost my > idealism. Since starting this business I have regained some of that idealism. > > My experience is the opposite. I usually take care of those > customers who need minor help with things THEY consider part of MY > network. I would not have gone overhead unless there was no way to > trench. Direct burial cable is cheap. A trench can be made with a > power edger with a new blade. An aerial should be tied to a > supporting rope or wire. > > Most of my customers knew they couldn't get Internet except slow > dialup before we came along. Is it loyalty? A new company has been > selling in my county off of their cellular towers. I have only lost > 2 customers to them. > > Never underestimate the power of good customer service. > > Mike > > At 07:58 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >>I used to think that but I have found no matter how much you give >>away, there is no loyalty! The monthly rate is all most care about. >> >>On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike wrote: >> > If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for >> > materials. You may just retain that customer for the next two years >> > because of your good will. >> > >> > If he is prepared for $50 and its easy and doesn't take you long, >> > you can say give me $20.00 for the cable and the custom ends, and >> > we'll call it even. >> > >> > Either way, you'll make a friend/keep a customer; and they do talk. >> > >> > Our hourly billing is $60. Usually to make network settings, get >> > virus protection on a machine ... >> > >> > >> > At 09:52 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >> >>Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his >> >>garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him >> >>we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? >> >>Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? >> >>Thanks! >> >>-RickG >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> -- >> >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >>http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >>-- >> -- >> >> >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >>Subscribe/Unsu
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
When I was a young man, a writer, I was idealistic and ready to conquer the world. In short order I grew up and lost my idealism. Since starting this business I have regained some of that idealism. My experience is the opposite. I usually take care of those customers who need minor help with things THEY consider part of MY network. I would not have gone overhead unless there was no way to trench. Direct burial cable is cheap. A trench can be made with a power edger with a new blade. An aerial should be tied to a supporting rope or wire. Most of my customers knew they couldn't get Internet except slow dialup before we came along. Is it loyalty? A new company has been selling in my county off of their cellular towers. I have only lost 2 customers to them. Never underestimate the power of good customer service. Mike At 07:58 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >I used to think that but I have found no matter how much you give >away, there is no loyalty! The monthly rate is all most care about. > >On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike wrote: > > If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for > > materials. You may just retain that customer for the next two years > > because of your good will. > > > > If he is prepared for $50 and its easy and doesn't take you long, > > you can say give me $20.00 for the cable and the custom ends, and > > we'll call it even. > > > > Either way, you'll make a friend/keep a customer; and they do talk. > > > > Our hourly billing is $60. Usually to make network settings, get > > virus protection on a machine ... > > > > > > At 09:52 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: > >>Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > >>garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > >>we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > >>Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > >>Thanks! > >>-RickG > >> > >> > >>-- > -- > >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>-- > -- > >> > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
Get a copy of ICRadius and borrow their Web Interface. The reports are built in. You may need to change some things to match your configuration. Here's a snippet: Usage Report Start Time: Order By Stop Time: Asc Desc radacct radacct_summary UsernameHours used Download MB Upload MB sglej-w 0.010.000.00 adn 4.300.000.00 ODR-W 0.090.000.00 sthlj-w 24239.75540418.90 60267.88 sawskyk-w 23032.91554344.64 140850.05 kslerg-w23224.49558519.26 475666.06 persont-w 15369.73559077.23 63152.75 wilsl-w 21575.04613474.26 63354.81 palrj-w 1213741.67 636762.27 106188.55 fgd-w 1213854.72 656650.04 146082.41 wkers-w 21484.84734535.34 184856.05 ebnm-w 16869.57748243.87 58303.92 linank-w11683.99827927.26 526513.81 elizoj-w23917.55980234.92 510916.78 hfs-w 1213829.02 2102770.73 65794.51 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
> That was very useful, I was able to cut and paste in into Excel so I > could sort. Good! >You seem to have gotten the UL and DL labels backward. And > the total ends up in the same column as the "UL" number. Opps! > Another issue is that there are some accounting records that cross the > first of the month. Is there any way to force an accounting record > daily? Do you want to do this for historical data or going forward? If you have all of the accounting messages in a FreeRADIUS detail file, including the interim updates, you can create a script to Going forward, you can run a report at the end of every month that sums all of the data sent by that client from the "beginning of time" and subtract the previous month's total. That would give you the incremental data sent in the new month. You can then cut and paste it into Excel. Here's a SQL query that will give you the "lifetime" total data sent by a client. select username, sum(acctoutputoctets) as Download, sum(acctinputoctets) as Upload, sum(acctinputoctets + acctoutputoctets) as "Total Bytes" FROM radacct group by username order by username; Tim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
Oh, I'm actually looking for a rate schedule to pay contracted installers for trouble calls. I.e. Replace radio = $15 Rerun cable = $30 etc. etc. -RickG On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM, RickG wrote: > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
I guess the issue is that this is a special setup that they require in order to receive the signal, not a normal setup. Thanks to all for the replies! -RickG On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: > In our situation, if it's something that is "natural causes" (trees, > lightning, squirrels, etc) that affects our equipment we fix it for free. If > we get out there and it is nothing with our equipment, or we find out > roofers did it, weedeater did it, anything that was caused by careless human > hands we charge them a one-time $50 service call fee. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:52 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
I used to think that but I have found no matter how much you give away, there is no loyalty! The monthly rate is all most care about. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike wrote: > If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for > materials. You may just retain that customer for the next two years > because of your good will. > > If he is prepared for $50 and its easy and doesn't take you long, > you can say give me $20.00 for the cable and the custom ends, and > we'll call it even. > > Either way, you'll make a friend/keep a customer; and they do talk. > > Our hourly billing is $60. Usually to make network settings, get > virus protection on a machine ... > > > At 09:52 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >>Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his >>garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him >>we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? >>Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? >>Thanks! >>-RickG >> >> >> >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
If done correctly, using a separate tension wire, an aerial can last a long time. -RickG On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > $75 for all truck rolls where it is not our fault. Rule of thumb, we > get there, plug in our laptop, test. If it works, $75 charge. If it > doesn't, service call is free. > > Also, in aerial Cat5 runs that are more than a few feet the cable will > stretch and eventually the cable will fail. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:52 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
That was very useful, I was able to cut and paste in into Excel so I could sort. You seem to have gotten the UL and DL labels backward. And the total ends up in the same column as the "UL" number. Another issue is that there are some accounting records that cross the first of the month. Is there any way to force an accounting record daily? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data If you store the accounting data in MySQL, you can perform the following SQL query to list the number of bytes Downloaded, Uploaded, Total Bytes by user for a give time period. select username, sum(acctinputoctets) as Download, sum(acctoutputoctets) as Upload, sum(acctinputoctets + acctoutputoctets) as "Total Bytes" FROM radacct where acctstarttime BETWEEN '2009-06-01' and '2009-07-01' group by username; Tim > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mark McElvy > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:51 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data > > I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently > does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run > a > report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you > totals > for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me > upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software > I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or > have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? > > > > I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) > > > > Mark McElvy > AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
What data exactly would you need, in what kind of format and what time period? In Gatespot I give access to a lot of the data in different ways and places but don't do any export function but wouldn't be hard. Plus of course that pulling that data only wouldn't require Gatespot if you already got everything else setup. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Mark McElvy Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data Sent: Oct 12, 2009 10:50 I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 10:50 -0500, Mark McElvy wrote: > I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently > does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a > report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals > for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me > upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software > I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or > have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? Mark, it would not be that hard to write a quick query or two that would give you the totals for the last month, for example. This could be done using php on your webserver and it would give you a report formatted in any way you want. I'm not sure if there is already a premade tool for that, but it would not be that hard to create a simple report like that. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Yes. I have one also and there is no comparison to the Aaronia, et al garbage. I wouldn't even think of trying to get it up a tower though... Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com ccrum wrote: > You can pick up an older Tektroniks 492p off ebay for around $1000. A > couple hundred for a new calibration and you've got a spectrum analyzer > that works from 50kHz to 21 GHz...and they are military rated meaning > they are tough as nails. Just make sure you've got a good winch to get > it up the tower...they weigh about 50 lbs. I love mine. > > Cameron > > Mike wrote: >> I'll second that. >> >> I have used the various 2.4 G versions for a few years. They now >> have an sma connector for external antenna. The only drawback is >> they have to be plugged into a USB port. Witht the right directional >> antenna it may be possible to find the direction the offending signal >> arrives from. You might be better with a little lossy antenna >> though. If you have that strong a signal in the nearfield, the >> signal will appear to be coming from everything metal. I still >> suspect something at the site, based only on the signal level you >> reported. When you do your audit, turn everything off -- read, turn >> one thing on -- read, turn another thing on --read. >> >> Mike >> >> At 04:52 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >> >>> http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=Wi%2DSpyDBx&eq=&Tp= >>> >>> MetaGeek's Wi-SpyDBx can do what you need to. Covers both 2.4 and >>> 5GHz (actually can even do 4.9GHz) >>> >>> Nifty tool with great software. Got a client server solution both >>> for windows and Linux. >>> >>> /Eje >>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Randy Cosby >>> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:17 >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >>> >>> Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on >>> the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to >>> another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything >>> else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal >>> near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. >>> >>> Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview >>> looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the >>> built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Randy Cosby wrote: >>> Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge reported. Not nearly as severe though. Randy Scott Carullo wrote: > Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > decision. > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > Original Message > > > >> From: "Randy Cosby" >> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >> >> Quite likely you're right. >> >> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >> with the backhaul off. >> >> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >> >> Randy >> >> >> Lakeland wrote: >> >> >> >>> Randy, >>> >>> You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >>> >>> >>> > receivers > > > >>> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. >>> >>> -B- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Randy Cosby writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > for > > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > newer > > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
You can pick up an older Tektroniks 492p off ebay for around $1000. A couple hundred for a new calibration and you've got a spectrum analyzer that works from 50kHz to 21 GHz...and they are military rated meaning they are tough as nails. Just make sure you've got a good winch to get it up the tower...they weigh about 50 lbs. I love mine. Cameron Mike wrote: > I'll second that. > > I have used the various 2.4 G versions for a few years. They now > have an sma connector for external antenna. The only drawback is > they have to be plugged into a USB port. Witht the right directional > antenna it may be possible to find the direction the offending signal > arrives from. You might be better with a little lossy antenna > though. If you have that strong a signal in the nearfield, the > signal will appear to be coming from everything metal. I still > suspect something at the site, based only on the signal level you > reported. When you do your audit, turn everything off -- read, turn > one thing on -- read, turn another thing on --read. > > Mike > > At 04:52 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: > >> http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=Wi%2DSpyDBx&eq=&Tp= >> >> MetaGeek's Wi-SpyDBx can do what you need to. Covers both 2.4 and >> 5GHz (actually can even do 4.9GHz) >> >> Nifty tool with great software. Got a client server solution both >> for windows and Linux. >> >> /Eje >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Randy Cosby >> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:17 >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >> >> Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on >> the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to >> another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything >> else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal >> near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. >> >> Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview >> looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the >> built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. >> >> Randy >> >> >> Randy Cosby wrote: >> >>> Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a >>> poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge >>> reported. Not nearly as severe though. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Scott Carullo wrote: >>> >>> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated decision. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Randy Cosby" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > Quite likely you're right. > > I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > with the backhaul off. > > My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > > Randy > > > Lakeland wrote: > > > >> Randy, >> >> You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> >> >> receivers >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Randy Cosby writes: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests >>> >>> >>> for >>> all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner >>> >>> >>> >>> channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi >>> >>> >>> >>> radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a >>> >>> >>> newer >>> firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. >>> >>> >>> It >>> shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It >>> >>> >>> appears >>> that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something >>> >>> >>> up >>> there has started interfering. >>> >>> Spectrum analy
Re: [WISPA] Need service in Western Catskills in NY. was - Re: WISP
More info marlon - Original Message - From: Anna Manzi To: Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Need service in Western Catskills in NY. was - Re: WISP Thanks My zip code is 12783 Swan Lake, New York -- From: Marlon K. Schafer To: Anna Manzi Cc: WISPA General List Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 1:16:16 PM Subject: Need service in Western Catskills in NY. was - Re: WISP Hi All, Can anyone help a stranded motorist? Ann, someone here should be able to help you out. Please feel free to touch base with any questions that you may have. Laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Anna Manzi To: o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: WISP I am tired of the high cost of satellite internet and the limited use it gives. We have to be careful on how much we download and upload, as well as we cannot use the radio. It is quite inconvenient especially on how much we pay. Anyway, I am trying to find out more about a WISP connection and where to get it. I am not sure if it would work well for us - we live in the middle of nowhere in the Western part of the Catskills in NY and cannot get DSL or cable. Our only option is satellite or dial-up. But, I would like to know more on simple terms on how it may work for us and where to find a good server. Could you help me in any way? We have a laptop and a PC that we use quite a bit (teenager in house) and I am on it through-out the day. When my two adult children come home, they want to use the connection with their laptops as well. Please help? Ann Manzi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
If you store the accounting data in MySQL, you can perform the following SQL query to list the number of bytes Downloaded, Uploaded, Total Bytes by user for a give time period. select username, sum(acctinputoctets) as Download, sum(acctoutputoctets) as Upload, sum(acctinputoctets + acctoutputoctets) as "Total Bytes" FROM radacct where acctstarttime BETWEEN '2009-06-01' and '2009-07-01' group by username; Tim > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mark McElvy > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:51 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data > > I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently > does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run > a > report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you > totals > for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me > upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software > I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or > have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? > > > > I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) > > > > Mark McElvy > AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
absolutely. is it shielded? even more likely now that we know about the cell tower... On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: > Are you saying you think the 5875 signal could be coming through > cabling? Like a bad poe injector or something? > > Randy > > > Gary McWhirter wrote: > > Cabling? > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Randy Cosby > wrote: > > > > > >> Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on > >> the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to > >> another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything > >> else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal > >> near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. > >> > >> Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview > >> looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the > >> built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. > >> > >> Randy > >> > >> > >> Randy Cosby wrote: > >> > >>> Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > >>> poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > >>> reported. Not nearly as severe though. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> Scott Carullo wrote: > >>> > >>> > Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > decision. > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > Original Message > > > > > From: "Randy Cosby" > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > > > Quite likely you're right. > > > > I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > > analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > > with the backhaul off. > > > > My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > > but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > > > > Randy > > > > > > Lakeland wrote: > > > > > > > >> Randy, > >> > >> You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most > >> > >> > >> > receivers > > > > >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > >> > >> -B- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Randy Cosby writes: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad > linktests > >>> > >>> > >>> > for > > > > >>> all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a > cleaner > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up > there. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge > >>> > >> 5Gxi > >> > >>> > > >>> radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > >>> > >>> > >>> > newer > > > > >>> firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > >>> > >>> > >>> > It > > > > >>> shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > >>> > >>> > >>> > appears > > > > >>> that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or > something > >>> > >>> > >>> > up > > > > >>> there has started interfering. > >>> > >>> Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively > >>> > >> clean. > >> > >>> > > >>> Any suggestions on where to start my search? > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Bob Moldashel > >> Lakeland Communications, Inc. > >> 1350 Lincoln Avenue > >> Holbrook, NY 11741 > >> 800-479-9195 > >> 631-286-8873 Fax > >> 516-551-1131 Cell > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Wow, Blackberrys are cool; they can send messages from the future! At 04:52 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=Wi%2DSpyDBx&eq=&Tp= > >MetaGeek's Wi-SpyDBx can do what you need to. Covers both 2.4 and >5GHz (actually can even do 4.9GHz) > >Nifty tool with great software. Got a client server solution both >for windows and Linux. > >/Eje >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: Randy Cosby >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:17 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > >Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on >the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to >another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything >else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal >near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. > >Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview >looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the >built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. > >Randy > > >Randy Cosby wrote: > > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > > > Randy > > > > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > > > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > >> decision. > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> Original Message > >> > >> > >>> From: "Randy Cosby" > >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > >>> > >>> Quite likely you're right. > >>> > >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > >>> with the backhaul off. > >>> > >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> Lakeland wrote: > >>> > >>> > Randy, > > You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most > > > >> receivers > >> > >> > can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > > -B- > > > > > > > Randy Cosby writes: > > > > > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > > > > >> for > >> > >> > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > > > > >> > >> > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > > > > >> > >> > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > > > > >> > >> > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > > > > >> newer > >> > >> > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > > > > >> It > >> > >> > > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > > > > >> appears > >> > >> > > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > > > > >> up > >> > >> > > there has started interfering. > > > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > > > > >> > >> > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, NY 11741 > 800-479-9195 > 631-286-8873 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > >>> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: ht
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
I'll second that. I have used the various 2.4 G versions for a few years. They now have an sma connector for external antenna. The only drawback is they have to be plugged into a USB port. Witht the right directional antenna it may be possible to find the direction the offending signal arrives from. You might be better with a little lossy antenna though. If you have that strong a signal in the nearfield, the signal will appear to be coming from everything metal. I still suspect something at the site, based only on the signal level you reported. When you do your audit, turn everything off -- read, turn one thing on -- read, turn another thing on --read. Mike At 04:52 PM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=Wi%2DSpyDBx&eq=&Tp= > >MetaGeek's Wi-SpyDBx can do what you need to. Covers both 2.4 and >5GHz (actually can even do 4.9GHz) > >Nifty tool with great software. Got a client server solution both >for windows and Linux. > >/Eje >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: Randy Cosby >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:17 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > >Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on >the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to >another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything >else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal >near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. > >Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview >looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the >built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. > >Randy > > >Randy Cosby wrote: > > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > > > Randy > > > > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > > > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > >> decision. > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> Original Message > >> > >> > >>> From: "Randy Cosby" > >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > >>> > >>> Quite likely you're right. > >>> > >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > >>> with the backhaul off. > >>> > >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> Lakeland wrote: > >>> > >>> > Randy, > > You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most > > > >> receivers > >> > >> > can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > > -B- > > > > > > > Randy Cosby writes: > > > > > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > > > > >> for > >> > >> > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > > > > >> > >> > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > > > > >> > >> > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > > > > >> > >> > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > > > > >> newer > >> > >> > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > > > > >> It > >> > >> > > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > > > > >> appears > >> > >> > > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > > > > >> up > >> > >> > > there has started interfering. > > > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > > > > >> > >> > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, NY 11741 > 800-479-9195 > 631-286-8873 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Are you saying you think the 5875 signal could be coming through cabling? Like a bad poe injector or something? Randy Gary McWhirter wrote: > Cabling? > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: > > >> Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on >> the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to >> another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything >> else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal >> near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. >> >> Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview >> looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the >> built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. >> >> Randy >> >> >> Randy Cosby wrote: >> >>> Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a >>> poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge >>> reported. Not nearly as severe though. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Scott Carullo wrote: >>> >>> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated decision. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Randy Cosby" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > Quite likely you're right. > > I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > with the backhaul off. > > My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > > Randy > > > Lakeland wrote: > > > >> Randy, >> >> You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> >> >> receivers >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Randy Cosby writes: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests >>> >>> >>> for >>> all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner >>> >>> >>> >>> channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge >>> >> 5Gxi >> >>> >>> radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a >>> >>> >>> newer >>> firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. >>> >>> >>> It >>> shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It >>> >>> >>> appears >>> that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something >>> >>> >>> up >>> there has started interfering. >>> >>> Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively >>> >> clean. >> >>> >>> Any suggestions on where to start my search? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Bob Moldashel >> Lakeland Communications, Inc. >> 1350 Lincoln Avenue >> Holbrook, NY 11741 >> 800-479-9195 >> 631-286-8873 Fax >> 516-551-1131 Cell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > >> -
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
It's actually a hotel up on a hill. There is a cell phone tower nearby, no new stuff that we can see, but we'll scan as soon as we can. Randy jp wrote: > I would suspect something on the same tower. Do you keep an online > inventory of all your ap's/backhauls at all of your sites, and what > frequencies they use? Review that before going out. > > I like the spectrum analyzer in the alvarion VL radios. Tells what OFDM > and non-OFDM stuff it picks up and separates the data. > > We also have an HP (now agilent) 8569b 10mhz-22ghz analyzer which still > sells on ebay for what I paid for it 8 or more years ago. It's great to > hook an antenna up to, scan around, looking at the screen to see it > peak, change polarities, etc... Newer more expensive ones have lcd > displays, are lighter, hook up to computer, etc... Use a low gain > antenna (20db or less) at 5ghz though, as the small antenna beamwidth > makes it easy to miss things. > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 02:05:17PM -0600, Randy Cosby wrote: > >> Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on >> the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to >> another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything >> else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal >> near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. >> >> Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview >> looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the >> built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. >> >> Randy >> >> >> Randy Cosby wrote: >> >>> Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a >>> poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge >>> reported. Not nearly as severe though. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Scott Carullo wrote: >>> >>> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated decision. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Randy Cosby" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > Quite likely you're right. > > I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > with the backhaul off. > > My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > > Randy > > > Lakeland wrote: > > > >> Randy, >> >> You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> >> >> receivers >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. >> >> -B- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Randy Cosby writes: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests >>> >>> >>> for >>> all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner >>> >>> >>> >>> channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. >>> >>> >>> >>> This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi >>> >>> >>> >>> radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a >>> >>> >>> newer >>> firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. >>> >>> >>> It >>> shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It >>> >>> >>> appears >>> that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something >>> >>> >>> up >>> there has started interfering. >>> >>> Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any suggestions on where to start my search? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Cabling? On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: > Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on > the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to > another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything > else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal > near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. > > Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview > looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the > built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. > > Randy > > > Randy Cosby wrote: > > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > > > Randy > > > > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > > > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > >> decision. > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> Original Message > >> > >> > >>> From: "Randy Cosby" > >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > >>> > >>> Quite likely you're right. > >>> > >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > >>> with the backhaul off. > >>> > >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> Lakeland wrote: > >>> > >>> > Randy, > > You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most > > > >> receivers > >> > >> > can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > > -B- > > > > > > > Randy Cosby writes: > > > > > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > > > > >> for > >> > >> > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > > > > >> > >> > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > > > > >> > >> > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge > 5Gxi > > > > > >> > >> > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > > > > >> newer > >> > >> > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > > > > >> It > >> > >> > > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > > > > >> appears > >> > >> > > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > > > > >> up > >> > >> > > there has started interfering. > > > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively > clean. > > > > > >> > >> > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, NY 11741 > 800-479-9195 > 631-286-8873 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > >>> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> >
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
I would suspect something on the same tower. Do you keep an online inventory of all your ap's/backhauls at all of your sites, and what frequencies they use? Review that before going out. I like the spectrum analyzer in the alvarion VL radios. Tells what OFDM and non-OFDM stuff it picks up and separates the data. We also have an HP (now agilent) 8569b 10mhz-22ghz analyzer which still sells on ebay for what I paid for it 8 or more years ago. It's great to hook an antenna up to, scan around, looking at the screen to see it peak, change polarities, etc... Newer more expensive ones have lcd displays, are lighter, hook up to computer, etc... Use a low gain antenna (20db or less) at 5ghz though, as the small antenna beamwidth makes it easy to miss things. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 02:05:17PM -0600, Randy Cosby wrote: > Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on > the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to > another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything > else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal > near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. > > Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview > looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the > built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. > > Randy > > > Randy Cosby wrote: > > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > > > Randy > > > > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > > > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > >> decision. > >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> Original Message > >> > >> > >>> From: "Randy Cosby" > >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > >>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > >>> > >>> Quite likely you're right. > >>> > >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > >>> with the backhaul off. > >>> > >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > >>> > >>> Randy > >>> > >>> > >>> Lakeland wrote: > >>> > >>> > Randy, > > You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most > > > >> receivers > >> > >> > can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > > -B- > > > > > > > Randy Cosby writes: > > > > > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > > > > >> for > >> > >> > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > > > > >> > >> > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > > > > >> > >> > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > > > > >> > >> > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > > > > >> newer > >> > >> > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > > > > >> It > >> > >> > > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > > > > >> appears > >> > >> > > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > > > > >> up > >> > >> > > there has started interfering. > > > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > > > > >> > >> > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, NY 11741 > 800-479-9195 > 631-286-8873 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > WI
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=Wi%2DSpyDBx&eq=&Tp= MetaGeek's Wi-SpyDBx can do what you need to. Covers both 2.4 and 5GHz (actually can even do 4.9GHz) Nifty tool with great software. Got a client server solution both for windows and Linux. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Randy Cosby Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:17 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. Randy Randy Cosby wrote: > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > Randy > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated >> decision. >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> Original Message >> >> >>> From: "Randy Cosby" >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >>> >>> Quite likely you're right. >>> >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >>> with the backhaul off. >>> >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Lakeland wrote: >>> >>> Randy, You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> receivers >> >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. -B- Randy Cosby writes: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > >> for >> >> > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > >> >> > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > >> >> > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > >> >> > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > >> newer >> >> > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > >> It >> >> > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > >> appears >> >> > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > >> up >> >> > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > >> >> > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://l
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
I have one - works well enough to get an idea of what's going on. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 Randy, something inexpensive would be http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp. Under 2k and goes up to 6gig! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. Randy Randy Cosby wrote: > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > Randy > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated >> decision. >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> Original Message >> >> >>> From: "Randy Cosby" >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >>> >>> Quite likely you're right. >>> >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >>> with the backhaul off. >>> >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Lakeland wrote: >>> >>> Randy, You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> receivers >> >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. -B- Randy Cosby writes: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > >> for >> >> > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > >> >> > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > >> >> > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > >> >> > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > >> newer >> >> > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > >> It >> >> > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > >> appears >> >> > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > >> up >> >> > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > >> >> > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Randy, something inexpensive would be http://www.linktechs.net/speca.asp. Under 2k and goes up to 6gig! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. Randy Randy Cosby wrote: > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > Randy > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated >> decision. >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> Original Message >> >> >>> From: "Randy Cosby" >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >>> >>> Quite likely you're right. >>> >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >>> with the backhaul off. >>> >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Lakeland wrote: >>> >>> Randy, You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> receivers >> >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. -B- Randy Cosby writes: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > >> for >> >> > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > >> >> > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > >> >> > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > >> >> > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > >> newer >> >> > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > >> It >> >> > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > >> appears >> >> > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > >> up >> >> > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > >> >> > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> ---
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
They announced at the seminar in Chicago that the 5ghz AirView is in the works and should be coming down the pipe soon. (Soon with UBNT is subjective to whether you work for UBNT or not.) :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. Randy Randy Cosby wrote: > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > Randy > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated >> decision. >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> Original Message >> >> >>> From: "Randy Cosby" >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >>> >>> Quite likely you're right. >>> >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >>> with the backhaul off. >>> >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Lakeland wrote: >>> >>> Randy, You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> receivers >> >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. -B- Randy Cosby writes: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > >> for >> >> > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > >> >> > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > >> >> > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > >> >> > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > >> newer >> >> > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > >> It >> >> > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > >> appears >> >> > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > >> up >> >> > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > >> >> > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/piperma
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Well, we replaced the backhaul (osbridge) and get the same readings on the new one. The old one does not get the same readings when moved to another location, so it's picking up SOMETHING. Powered down everything else, same problem. So, someone is slamming me with a ton of signal near 5875... Now to find out where it's coming from. Any recommendations for a 5 gig spectrum analyzer? Ubiquiti airview looks interesting, but only for 2.4 and 900. Guess I can use the built-in one in the osbridge, but it's not too fast / granular. Randy Randy Cosby wrote: > Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a > poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge > reported. Not nearly as severe though. > > Randy > > > Scott Carullo wrote: > >> Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy >> takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated >> decision. >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> Original Message >> >> >>> From: "Randy Cosby" >>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >>> >>> Quite likely you're right. >>> >>> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >>> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >>> with the backhaul off. >>> >>> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >>> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> Lakeland wrote: >>> >>> Randy, You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >> receivers >> >> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. -B- Randy Cosby writes: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > >> for >> >> > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > >> >> > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > >> >> > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > >> >> > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > >> newer >> >> > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > >> It >> >> > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > >> appears >> >> > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > > >> up >> >> > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > >> >> > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wir
Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 10:41 -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote: > I thought MT went to great lengths to hide the fact that they are a > Linux box with a fancy interface From: http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/what_is_routeros.pdf you will find this: "RouterOS is a stand-alone operating system based on the Linux v2.6 kernel, and our goal here at MikroTik is to provide all these features with a quick and simple installation and an easy to use interface." I don't think they are trying to hide their "Linux Heritage". :-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:52 -0500, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Many portions of MT is not Linux though. Huh? -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
In our situation, if it's something that is "natural causes" (trees, lightning, squirrels, etc) that affects our equipment we fix it for free. If we get out there and it is nothing with our equipment, or we find out roofers did it, weedeater did it, anything that was caused by careless human hands we charge them a one-time $50 service call fee. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:14 -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote: > > The L7 filters at sourceforge > > (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/protocols) are accurate and work fine > > for the most part. I have, yet, to run into one that doesn't. I have > > to say that my testing has been a little limited, however. I have > > played with the skype filters and they certainly do work well. To be > > honest, I've not played with the L7 filters much because it is not often > > that they are needed. > > Is there a tool that can import these to a MT box? There several of them here: http://www.mikrotik.com/download/l7-protos.rsc -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth
You hit the nail on the head. Lower frequencies means bigger antennas...lots bigger. If you think the 900 sectors are large, just wait until you get to 700, or as someone said earlier, 100MHz. Ever seen a ham tower with a long wire stretched between the tower and a couple of trees? Now think about the uplink. What kind of antenna do you think will be needed at the customer premise? Indoor penetration is nice, but think about those old TV sets with rabbit earsand they were receive only. So what if you can propagate 20 miles...how do you get the signal back. Low frequency comes with it's own technical problems. We need a better data standard for starters (802.20 would have been far superior to WiMax IMHO), and some clean spectrum would be nice, but not necessarily low frequency. Cameron Patrick Leary wrote: > 700 MHz is not the panacea some might think. Technically, it is a > nightmare for bi-directional services. > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:30 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth > > Imagine WISPs using 700mhz to service their customers. No stimulus > package needed. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Gino Villarini > wrote: > > >> Bingo! >> >> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >> >> >> On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:15 PM, "Robert West" > micro.com> wrote: >> >> >>> I think the major barrier to wisp growth is lack of quality, NLOS >>> spectrum. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Marco Coelho >>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:21 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth >>> >>> Patrick, >>> >>> Not being one for gov money >>> >>> We have excellent credit. We have that because we only expand at a >>> rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs. So >>> the cycle goes: >>> >>> 1. Build out X number of Towers. >>> 2. Market X number of Areas. >>> 3. Install Customers to X*Y until well funded. >>> >>> Repeat. >>> >>> I think a lot of the companies that take stimulus money are going to >>> > > >>> go under in the long run. They will go like the dot-coms. Build >>> build Build Ah shit no revenue! >>> >>> That being said, we are vertical, all workers work for the company. >>> That is the only way you can control quality. Good employees are >>> very hard to find. For every 100-200 applications/resumes, maybe 10 >>> > > >>> are worth talking to seriously. You're lucky to find 1 that is >>> worth hiring. >>> >>> Always a ray of sunshine! >>> >>> Marco Coelho >>> Argon Technologies Inc. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickG wrote: >>> Patrick, #1- Labor: There is very little skilled resources here. #2- Funding: Especially for labor. Normal financing channels are available but I will not take on too much debt at one time. #3- Time: There is little extra time to dedicate towards expansion versus daily operations. Notes- Employees: Too small to enjoy such a "luxury". Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply. Technologies: Proprietary equipment are a bit too expensive unless you buy CPE in 100 packs. Even then, the AP's are still expensive. -RickG On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Leary >>> wrote: >>> > Regardless of your tech choice -- Moto, 802.11-based, WiMAX or > other, I am interested to know what are the greatest barriers to > growth and why? > > Some possibilities: > Is it funding and if so, are your normal channels for money frozen > > > > or otherwise gone? > Is it competition? If so, how specifically. > Are you constrained from hiring due to high cost of employee > benefits (e.g. health insurance)? > Are you stalled waiting for response from your stimulus > > application? > > Are you stalled trying to defend against someone else's stimulus > application that would include your market? > Are the current technologies too expensive or technicall > inadequate to deliver what you need to compete? > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > > > >>> --- >>> --- >>> >>> -- >>> >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wisp
[WISPA] Need service in Western Catskills in NY. was - Re: WISP
Hi All, Can anyone help a stranded motorist? Ann, someone here should be able to help you out. Please feel free to touch base with any questions that you may have. Laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Anna Manzi To: o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: WISP I am tired of the high cost of satellite internet and the limited use it gives. We have to be careful on how much we download and upload, as well as we cannot use the radio. It is quite inconvenient especially on how much we pay. Anyway, I am trying to find out more about a WISP connection and where to get it. I am not sure if it would work well for us - we live in the middle of nowhere in the Western part of the Catskills in NY and cannot get DSL or cable. Our only option is satellite or dial-up. But, I would like to know more on simple terms on how it may work for us and where to find a good server. Could you help me in any way? We have a laptop and a PC that we use quite a bit (teenager in house) and I am on it through-out the day. When my two adult children come home, they want to use the connection with their laptops as well. Please help? Ann Manzi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Did that - don't have the results here with me, but there was quite a poor noise floor around the middle of the band - just like the osbridge reported. Not nearly as severe though. Randy Scott Carullo wrote: > Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy > takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated > decision. > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > Original Message > >> From: "Randy Cosby" >> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 >> >> Quite likely you're right. >> >> I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum >> analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's >> with the backhaul off. >> >> My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, >> but it is potentially the source of interference as well. >> >> Randy >> >> >> Lakeland wrote: >> >>> Randy, >>> >>> You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most >>> > receivers > >>> can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. >>> >>> -B- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Randy Cosby writes: >>> >>> >>> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > for > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > newer > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > It > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > appears > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something > up > there has started interfering. Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? Randy >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob Moldashel >>> Lakeland Communications, Inc. >>> 1350 Lincoln Avenue >>> Holbrook, NY 11741 >>> 800-479-9195 >>> 631-286-8873 Fax >>> 516-551-1131 Cell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Just do a survey on the AP, really thats all that matters... its easy takes a few minutes and you have the data you need to make educated decision. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Randy Cosby" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:45 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > Quite likely you're right. > > I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum > analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's > with the backhaul off. > > My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, > but it is potentially the source of interference as well. > > Randy > > > Lakeland wrote: > > Randy, > > > > You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most receivers > > can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > > > > -B- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Randy Cosby writes: > > > > > >> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for > >> all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > >> channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > >> > >> This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > >> radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer > >> firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It > >> shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears > >> that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up > >> there has started interfering. > >> > >> Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > >> > >> Any suggestions on where to start my search? > >> > >> Randy > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Bob Moldashel > > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > > Holbrook, NY 11741 > > 800-479-9195 > > 631-286-8873 Fax > > 516-551-1131 Cell > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
We would charge $75 with this occurrence, you're very fair. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule FWIW we charge $95 hour for field work. We usually eat the travel time if it's close-in. Your fee sound very fair. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richardson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > More than fair. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.10/2429 - Release Date: 10/11/09 18:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
Netlow export on your pppoe concentrator? On 10/12/09, Mark McElvy wrote: > I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently > does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a > report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals > for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me > upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software > I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or > have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? > > > > I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) > > > > Mark McElvy > AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
FWIW we charge $95 hour for field work. We usually eat the travel time if it's close-in. Your fee sound very fair. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richardson" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > More than fair. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.10/2429 - Release Date: 10/11/09 18:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
Sounds cheap --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule More than fair. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
More than fair. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
We've got mostly the same thing running here. If you figure that out please let me know! marlon - Original Message - From: "Mark McElvy" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: [WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data >I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently > does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a > report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals > for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me > upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software > I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or > have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? > > > > I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) > > > > Mark McElvy > AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FreeRadius / Accounting data
I am running FreeRadius and FreeSide usinf PPPoE. Freeside currently does not give me the reports I need for my accounting data. When I run a report, it gives you details on each record but does not give you totals for each user. I would like to generate a report that would give me upload/download totals for a given time period. Anyone know of software I can run against the FreeRadius accounting data to get this info or have any Freeside customization that would like to share to do this? I am looking at bitcap bill if you have not guessed;) Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Quite likely you're right. I tried shutting off the trango AP's with no luck - same bad spectrum analysis. I'm next going to go on site and do linktests on the AP's with the backhaul off. My suspicion is the backhaul is bad - at least the spectrum analysis, but it is potentially the source of interference as well. Randy Lakeland wrote: > Randy, > > You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most receivers > can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. > > -B- > > > > > > > Randy Cosby writes: > > >> Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for >> all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner >> channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. >> >> This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi >> radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer >> firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It >> shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears >> that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up >> there has started interfering. >> >> Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. >> >> Any suggestions on where to start my search? >> >> Randy >> >> > > > > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, NY 11741 > 800-479-9195 > 631-286-8873 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
As much as I hate getting off topic...I really miss George Carlin =( Screw you I'm getting IN the plane! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > That reminds me of George Carlin. > > Weathermen on television talk about "shower activity". Sounds more > important > than "showers." I even heard one guy on CNN talk about a "rain event". I > swear to God, he said, "Louisiana is expecting a rain event." And I > thought, > "Holy shit, I hope I can get tickets to that!" > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Ed Spoon" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:26 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > > The Trango AP should have a built in test as well that will show noise on > > all channels. We have had to replace 5830 AP's in the past with this > > issue, usually after a weather event. > > > > Ed Spoon > > CSS > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Randy Cosby > > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:58:27 > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It > > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears > > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up > > there has started interfering. > > > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
If it is a good customer, I'd either do it for nothing, or for materials. You may just retain that customer for the next two years because of your good will. If he is prepared for $50 and its easy and doesn't take you long, you can say give me $20.00 for the cable and the custom ends, and we'll call it even. Either way, you'll make a friend/keep a customer; and they do talk. Our hourly billing is $60. Usually to make network settings, get virus protection on a machine ... At 09:52 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his >garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him >we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? >Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? >Thanks! >-RickG > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
That reminds me of George Carlin. Weathermen on television talk about "shower activity". Sounds more important than "showers." I even heard one guy on CNN talk about a "rain event". I swear to God, he said, "Louisiana is expecting a rain event." And I thought, "Holy shit, I hope I can get tickets to that!" - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Ed Spoon" Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:26 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > The Trango AP should have a built in test as well that will show noise on > all channels. We have had to replace 5830 AP's in the past with this > issue, usually after a weather event. > > Ed Spoon > CSS > > Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > -Original Message- > From: Randy Cosby > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:58:27 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
5 minutes to replace Ariel cable between buildings... I'm hiring lol Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:28 AM, "Marlon K. Schafer" wrote: > If we do work for a customer, we usually charge $50. Usually it > takes 5 > minutes and I'll cut it in half. If it takes longer than that, it's > done > $50 per hour. > > Work for non internet customers is $65/hour in shop, $85 on site. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "RickG" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM > Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > > >> Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his >> garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him >> we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? >> Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? >> Thanks! >> -RickG >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Randy, You cant go by that spectrum analyzer. Something is wrong. Most receivers can't handle 5dbm pumped into them without killing them. -B- Randy Cosby writes: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Trango APs have a site survey tool, however, it requires a reboot and you a) have to catch it within 30s of bootup or b) set default opmode to OFF. I advise the first option - this way you never run into an issue with power failures for 5 minutes bringing your customers down until you click "on". Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Ed Spoon wrote: > The Trango AP should have a built in test as well that will show noise on > all channels. We have had to replace 5830 AP's in the past with this issue, > usually after a weather event. > > Ed Spoon > CSS > > Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > -Original Message- > From: Randy Cosby > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:58:27 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
If we do work for a customer, we usually charge $50. Usually it takes 5 minutes and I'll cut it in half. If it takes longer than that, it's done $50 per hour. Work for non internet customers is $65/hour in shop, $85 on site. marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
The Trango AP should have a built in test as well that will show noise on all channels. We have had to replace 5830 AP's in the past with this issue, usually after a weather event. Ed Spoon CSS Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Randy Cosby Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:58:27 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785 Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up there has started interfering. Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. Any suggestions on where to start my search? Randy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
I agree. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Depends who put it there and why If u needed it to provide service I'd just fix it It it was put to hook up another room for cust at their request I'd charge time and material Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:52 AM, RickG wrote: > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
I would definitely start with equipment on site. That has to be an anomaly or something very close to the sense antenna acting up. With free space path loss, any signal arriving from afar and measured at 5 dBm would be killing every bird and bee in the path. You might be overloading the PA. It could be static damaged. Turn the power to its lowest setting and see if you still see that signal. Mike At 09:58 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: >Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests >for all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a >cleaner channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > >This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge >5Gxi radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to >a newer firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of >the site. It shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See >attached. It appears that something VERY hot is either pointed at >my AP site, or something up there has started interfering. >Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > >Any suggestions on where to start my search? > >Randy > > > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
I can say that with two MT swivel antennas blank range (touching each other) they report 0dbm - not positive values... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: > On same tower > That's really hot > > I'd also do sanity check on your anylizer to ensure you are seeing > what you think you are seeing > > Teoradios on desk usually don't get reading like that and if it were > real you ap wouldn't work at all > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > (321) 205-1100 x102 > > On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: > > > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > > for > > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > > newer > > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > > It > > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > > appears > > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or > > something up > > there has started interfering. > > > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
Fixing it for free is a really bad idea, in my opinion. $50 is very reasonable and a good price. What if it had been some scissor happy kid that cut it and not a tree branch? Can you really tell the difference what caused the problem sometimes? I don't advise doing this stuff for free because that word gets passed around and when hear free their brain chemistry changes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: > Depends who put it there and why > > If u needed it to provide service I'd just fix it > > It it was put to hook up another room for cust at their request I'd > charge time and material > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > (321) 205-1100 x102 > > On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:52 AM, RickG wrote: > > > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > > Thanks! > > -RickG > > > > > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
On same tower That's really hot I'd also do sanity check on your anylizer to ensure you are seeing what you think you are seeing Teoradios on desk usually don't get reading like that and if it were real you ap wouldn't work at all Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: > Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests > for > all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner > channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. > > This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi > radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a > newer > firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. > It > shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It > appears > that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or > something up > there has started interfering. > > Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. > > Any suggestions on where to start my search? > > Randy > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
Depends who put it there and why If u needed it to provide service I'd just fix it It it was put to hook up another room for cust at their request I'd charge time and material Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:52 AM, RickG wrote: > Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his > garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him > we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? > Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? > Thanks! > -RickG > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > --- > --- > --- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware
It sounds like you have never looked at this in the interface before... Cut from website the regex string you want to match... Paste in MT GUI Then use appropriately Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: > I thought MT went to great lengths to hide the fact that they are a > Linux box with a fancy interface > > 2009/10/12 Scott Carullo : >> >> Yeah cut and paste >> >> Scott Carullo >> Brevard Wireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> Original Message >>> From: "Jeremy Parr" >>> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:14 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware >>> >>> 2009/10/11 Butch Evans : On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 20:54 -0400, Nick Olsen wrote: > In my testing most of those don't work, or there isn't one for > what i >> want > to do. > Only one I currently use in production is the Skype-to-skype L7 > for >> marking > skype voip for QOS The L7 filters at sourceforge (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/protocols) are accurate and work >> fine for the most part. I have, yet, to run into one that doesn't. I have to say that my testing has been a little limited, however. I have played with the skype filters and they certainly do work well. To be honest, I've not played with the L7 filters much because it is not >> often that they are needed. >>> >>> Is there a tool that can import these to a MT box? >>> >>> >>> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --- >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] spectrum analysis - 5dBm interference at 5785
Over the weekend we started getting complaints about a bad linktests for all customers on an old trango AP site. I've tried finding a cleaner channel, but am not having much luck getting good linktests up there. This is one of the first sites I built, and use a couple OSBridge 5Gxi radios to backhaul. I found they added a spectrum analyzer to a newer firmware version, so I installed it and ran a analysis of the site. It shows a 5dBm signal at 5785! Not -5, but 5. See attached. It appears that something VERY hot is either pointed at my AP site, or something up there has started interfering. Spectrum analysis from the near side of the link was relatively clean. Any suggestions on where to start my search? Randy <> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule
$75 for all truck rolls where it is not our fault. Rule of thumb, we get there, plug in our laptop, test. If it works, $75 charge. If it doesn't, service call is free. Also, in aerial Cat5 runs that are more than a few feet the cable will stretch and eventually the cable will fail. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] billable fee schedule Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] billable fee schedule
Here's the scenario: Customer has an aerial ethernet run from his garage to his home. A tree branch fell and cut the line. I told him we'll replace it for a $50 fee. Does this sound fair? Also, does anyone have a fee schedule they use for billable calls? Thanks! -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware
Many portions of MT is not Linux though. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:42 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware I thought MT went to great lengths to hide the fact that they are a Linux box with a fancy interface 2009/10/12 Scott Carullo : > > Yeah cut and paste > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > Original Message >> From: "Jeremy Parr" >> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:14 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware >> >> 2009/10/11 Butch Evans : >> > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 20:54 -0400, Nick Olsen wrote: >> >> In my testing most of those don't work, or there isn't one for what i > want >> >> to do. >> >> Only one I currently use in production is the Skype-to-skype L7 for > marking >> >> skype voip for QOS >> > >> > The L7 filters at sourceforge >> > (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/protocols) are accurate and work > fine >> > for the most part. I have, yet, to run into one that doesn't. I have >> > to say that my testing has been a little limited, however. I have >> > played with the skype filters and they certainly do work well. To be >> > honest, I've not played with the L7 filters much because it is not > often >> > that they are needed. >> >> Is there a tool that can import these to a MT box? >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware
I thought MT went to great lengths to hide the fact that they are a Linux box with a fancy interface 2009/10/12 Scott Carullo : > > Yeah cut and paste > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > Original Message >> From: "Jeremy Parr" >> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:14 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Layer 7 patterns for P2P and viruses / malware >> >> 2009/10/11 Butch Evans : >> > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 20:54 -0400, Nick Olsen wrote: >> >> In my testing most of those don't work, or there isn't one for what i > want >> >> to do. >> >> Only one I currently use in production is the Skype-to-skype L7 for > marking >> >> skype voip for QOS >> > >> > The L7 filters at sourceforge >> > (http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/protocols) are accurate and work > fine >> > for the most part. I have, yet, to run into one that doesn't. I have >> > to say that my testing has been a little limited, however. I have >> > played with the skype filters and they certainly do work well. To be >> > honest, I've not played with the L7 filters much because it is not > often >> > that they are needed. >> >> Is there a tool that can import these to a MT box? >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MK VPLS via BGP!
Tested this a while back and although it saves on overhead and CPU, couldn't see how you could implement QoS on wireless links between P routers. How are you implementing QoS across the MPLS network? -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: 10 October 2009 17:54 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MK VPLS via BGP! Basically our test environment consist of 10 deployed routers on our network Ip connectivity is achieved by OSPF We have setup a Router on our NOC as Route Reflector for BGP All other 9 Routers have BGP sessions to the NOC VLPS are created dynamically via iBGP If we need a VPLS tunnel between R4 and R9 WE just create the VPLS instance on R4 and R9 If we need to add R7 to that same VPLS tunnel, we just create a VLPS instance on router 7 with the same VPLS ID and it would automatically create all of the tunneling to R4 and R9 Also using Split Horizon Bridging which prevents loops, so we van have 2 VPLS instances connected to a same L2 area without causing any loops and thus providing redundancy Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MK VPLS via BGP! Details? :) Randy Gino Villarini wrote: > Got it running! Sweet! > > > > I would encourage anyone doing a fair amount of l2 tunneling either via > vlans or EOIP to take a look at BGP based VPLS > > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
