Re: [WISPA] Motel setup
That's 'Colubris', and I've been talkng to them myself this week. Beware that the first layer of contact there is woefully ignorant of things like "channels"! Has anyone used their stuff? The really top-notch vendor of wi-fi gear is Meru (http://www.merunetworks.com). However, you would have to purchase not only three access points but also a controller for a total of >$2k.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
uot;I owe you "this"much", and we both signed it. Not fancy, but a little better than an oral agreement. I won't miss a payment and will pay them back if it
takes closing the WISP and working 3 jobs. Missing payments is not an
option. Only if I'm laid up in the hospital. Personal guaranteed? Well, I told them I will pay it back... I know the agreement leaves a
lot open, but I trust these 4 people. Anyway, so they are not investors. Lastly, lets just leave me be about this :) I'd rather not try to defend a million questions about what if this and what if
that. It is what I did and it is done.Charles Wu wrote:
that would be a loanwhat type of collateral do they have? or what happens if you miss apayment?have you personally guaranteed the money? -Charles---
WISPNOG Park City, UThttp://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005-Original Message-*From:*
[EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *BrianRohrbacher
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 PM*To:* WISPA General List*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?Well, I guess we would call them loans as I have all control.Correct me if I am wrong. They gave me money at a fixed rate. Loans
or investments?Charles Wu wrote:
well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming you're willing todivulge this information) - what sort of investment / equityshare / control do your investors have?
I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does everyonehavean equal share? (which is a different story all together) ordoes 1 single person have a majority share and the other 4 are
minority partners -Charles ---WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com August 15-17, 2005-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED][
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *BrianRohrbacher*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 8:05 PM*To:* WISPA General List*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Well, I guess I found four "dumb" people that got mestarted. All my start up funds came from 4 people. Allfour were subs from a previous WISP I owned, (before mypartner took everything over and left me out in the
cold)they all said, "I want you providing service, not the "otherguy". So here I am. 7 months in and going strong. Oh,almost forgot, like my lawyer has me say..all that is
just my opinion. ;-) I think "dumb" investorsare great! Charles Wu wrote:
sure a passive minority equity position stake in aprivatelyheld company is worthless, as legally, the person with themajority stake can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of
purchasing, spending, cash distribution, etc) think about it, if it was your money, would you be
willingto just "invest it" into a company when the majoritypartner can do whatever he/she wants to and you have no recourse?
-Charles---WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com August 15-17, 2005-Original Message-
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of*Dylan Oliver*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 4:10 PM*To:* WISPA General List*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Charles,would you expand on that?On 8/22/05, *Charles Wu* <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:FWIW...no invester (other than friends and family)
worth their salt will bewilling to invest capital into the company for aminority position, as thatis basically a sure way to guarantee the loss of
their moneyThat said, there is a fool born every day-Charles-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC---
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Re: [WISPA] List Discussion
Funny, I just got the new xchange trade mag and one of the articles is "Adult Content Heats up Wireless Networks". Here's the lead:"As with the Internet before it, the mobile world provides rich opportunities for personalization and entertainment distribution. And for an ever-increasing segment of the population, that means porn. According to Juniper Research, the overall market for mobile adult content will triple to $2.1 billion by 2009, driven by more availability of 2.5 and 3G networks."Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
Congratulations, Matt. Any comments/suggestions for dealing with municipal governments? How does the process differ from deals with businesses?Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] motorola mesh
Anyone know anything about Motorola's 802.11 mesh products? Are they rebranding someone else's gear (as it appears they did with Orthogon) or building their own? I haven't heard anything about it, but just found the marketing on my most recent visit to canopywireless.com. Any success stories with mesh muni wireless yet? I just attended a 'Wireless Wisconsin' conference largely about Milwaukee's project, which is being done by Midwest Fiber Networks. They've not resolved on a vendor yet, but claim that they'll build quickly because they will operate the network independently: they only lease the city's infrastructure. Thanks, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment
John, It's now April 5th. How are you faring with the Cisco mesh gear? On 3/1/06, John J. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Cisco radios can do 4.9-5.8 GHz. I am assuming that 5.3-5.7 will be > available in a update, since 4.9 is available now. Cisco apparently only has > 6-8 deployments so far, and they are releasing updates regularly. > > Our install is tentatively scheduled for March 14th, so I should be able to > post info shortly thereafter. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum]
Has there been any word on what the power limitations in the whitespace band will be? Or is this up to the FCC when the bills pass? I wish the band was WISP-only, and registered like 3650 to keep things proper. Thanks, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What is it about Alvarion VL that makes the cut vs. Canopy? Lord knows Motorola produces far more 'Carrier-Grade' equipment than Alvarion ever will - so where did they go wrong with Canopy? Also, I've heard lately several complaints that Waverider has trouble sustaining even 1 Mbps throughput ... what is your experience, John? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Google, eBay and Amazon may build their own wireless Internet
> Phone carriers say it's unfair for them to invest more in network > infrastructure to carry Internet firms' content if they can't make more > money as the middleman. What's the problem with a usage-based fee structure? That's the obvious way to make more in the middle. Move more bits, make more money. It does cost something after all. I don't know that it makes sense to differentiate forms of media - voice from video from music. Priority might be billable, but would get busy quick. Usage-based billing may not be the norm but it's a little less crazy than building [Google,Ebay,Amazon].net. Anyone try this? I like pay-as-you-go models like that offered by Teliax for voice, myself. And I'm alright with the idea that if I'm downloading 80 gigs a month I ought to pay more than my ma checking her email. Huawei just announced the first 1.7 GHz UMTS base station: http://news.tmcnet.com/news/2006/04/07/1550495.htm How long til WISPs start talking about launching UMTS and other mobile data services? Or are you waiting for it to happen on unlicensed bands? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] how to send message
jpeg can be smaller, but maybe you should just post a link to a website?On 4/14/06, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:looks like i sent it .bmpIs a jpeg smaller? Or.Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > I need to send a picture but I was rejected by the list. What is the> format that is small. bmp, jpg, ect> What should I use?>--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
On a related note, "Raising Capital: Get the Money You Need to Grow Your Business" is an excellent book. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update
Patrick: Wow - this is by far the most enlightening piece I've ever read on the WiMax market. Thanks a lot! So who really cares about WiMax for backhaul? So what if I can build links with ends from different vendors? Won't proprietary protocols win (technically) if they aren't "limited" by requirements to operate within a standard? Time to look into licensing for mobile! Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1145387747.htmMotorola has been rebranding OS backhauls - now they've bought the company! I wonder if Tropos is next .. and what their plans for the Orthogon Systems group are. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
I wonder what Motorola will decide to do with Mesh. They appear to have three distinct platforms now: HotZone (rebranded Tropos), MOTOMESH (MeshNetworks; not Wi-Fi), and MEA. Or rather MEA radios are included in MOTOMESH 4-radio units? :: A Technical View Of MOTOMESHEvery MOTOMESH access point contains two standards-based 802.11 (Wi-Fi) radios and two of Motorola's widely acclaimed Mesh Enabled Architecture (MEA®) mobile broadband radios. One set of Wi-Fi and MEA radios operate in the unlicensed 2.4GHz band, and one set operates in the licensed 4.9GHz public safety band.Oh, I get it (I think). MEA provides backhaul between mesh units, while the 802.11 serve the public. Anyone ever hear of how this platform actually performs? I wonder why Motorola isn't pushing these harder. Has Tropos so stolen the thunder they can't properly market their own solution? Canopy™ HotZone* is a dedicated solution for communities concerned primarily with improving public Internet access and eliminating the digital divide. Combining unlicensed standards-based WiFi radios and Canopy system backhaul to support the cost-effective deployment of wide area broadband wireless. HotZone solutions offer remarkable efficient and cost-effective public access capabilities. Click to see how it works. Motorola's MOTOMESH™ multi-radio broadband solution, whose architecture supports up to four radio (2.4 & 4.9 GHz) networks in a single access point, enables complete municipal-wide wireless connectivity for public access, public works and public safety. Motorola's Mesh Enable Architecture (MEA®) technology is a private mobile broadband solution that delivers desktop applications into the field at highway speeds. The MEA network features Motorola's unique Multi-Hopping capabilities turning each mesh-enable radio into a router/repeater. As a result, every user makes the network stronger. * HotZone is powered by Tropos MetroMesh.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] motorola buys orthogon
Is the three-radio product you mention actually the four-radio product I referred to, or something else?On 4/18/06, Patrick Leary < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is no surprise and was largely expected back when they began to OEM them back in January of 2005. No way they'll buy Tropos. Moto already bought Mesh Networks and currently fields a three-radio product for the public safety side on the muniwireless market. Earthlink is the one that has Moto and Tropos together; it is not Moto making the call to use tropos.-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
On 4/19/06, Mark Koskenmaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The telephone company didn't choose a system with $500 CPE. They have a$50 CPE.Same with Cable. We can all understand the infrastructurebuildout and the considerable cost in building it, but even they grasp the "cost of growth" limitation factor.THEY are prepared to wage war at theresidential level, and are doing so. We need the tools to get into thatwar as well, WITHOUT a billionaire backing us. There's more strategies than just the $50 CPE (I don't expect to see it), tobe sure. What I see needed is options for all of them.I'll bet they were closer to $500 than $50 before they started ordering in kilopacks. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Auction 66
The way Chairman Copps talked about it at a recent conference in Milwaukee, I got the idea the auction might be approachable for a small business. Cellular market areas would be a WISP's (or consortium of WISPs) best bet in terms of number available (734 - we're bound to get at least one ... right?), size and demographics - but they are also some of the most valuable because they allocate 2x10 MHz channels vs the 2x5 MHz channels of blocks C-F (B gives 2x10 for 176 economic areas). And then there's the question of what to do with it. Huawei was the first to announce UMTS gear for 1700 MHz. I haven't heard what else is in the pipeline. It's a crapshoot. But the potential is awesome. Re: the 2x channels .. does this mean two licenses will be rewarded per area? Or one license will get both? Or both together make the thing "duplex"? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Auction 66
Dawn,Thanks, good catch. It was Commissioner Copps. His talk is reported well here: http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=2835Best,-- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Auction 66
$848k for control of a 2x10 MHz chunk over a fairly large rural area for 15 years is not bad at all. If one's winning bid were $1 million and they received a 25% discount as a "very small business" for a total payment of $750k, that'd work out to just $50k/year. Of course you need to have to pay out *now*, but my god that'd be a bargain! On 4/28/06, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I read the documentation correctly, the minimum bid for 1 10MHz chunk is some rural area is $848,000.00. Hardly for small companies. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Auction 66
I disagree. Any and every WISP should be interested in offering mobile voice, data, and video as a complement to its fixed services. Subscribers *will* want it. Best,-- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Business Value
The time is coming for WISPs to grow up to the point where they can not only participate in but lead the evolution of the industry through effective leverage of potentials like the AWS auction with proper capitalization. Consolidation: don't wait for it, do it! Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Is there a centralized listing of all communities to be effected by Open Range? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wireless bridge and poe injector
Hi, Is there such a thing as a combination wireless bridge and poe injector? I want this to power and unwire my Grandstream GXP-2000 deskphone. The dongle of my dreams would: - be plugged into the wall for power - create an 802.11b/g bridge - deliver PoE to my deskphone. Of course I could always get a Wi-Fi phone, but I haven't tried any or heard much good about them yet. Except maybe the Hitachi 3000, which is like $350 compared to just $115 for the GXP-2000. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless bridge and poe injector
This is what I was just looking at! But it's not PoE. Both Linksys/Sipura phones and the GXP-2000 are 5v but the AC adapter barrel plugs are probably different and this device just daisy chains them. I couldn't find any specs on the barrel sizes. Thanks.-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless bridge and poe injector
Oh, you mean those phones with that fancy GSM technology they got over there in Europe but will probably never serve SW Wisconsin because the license holders are only interested in serving the half of one of the 15 or so counties in this Cellular Market Area which contains the Big City of Madison? Oh, and they don't respond to inquiries about subletting spectrum. Actually I've been looking at the Treo 700w, which is CDMA and has Wi-Fi adapters available. However I'll bet Verizon has disabled all the useful features, much like it did with bluetooth on my moto v710. MobiVoip.net has something in beta. Is it really so hard to put a softphone on these things? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monopole Burns
Damage estimated at $75k - so they can tear down and rebuild a monopole for that? I got the impression (from some tower builders) that they were a bit more expensive. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireless bridge and poe injector
CDMA 1xRTT only. Most of the service in my area is provided by US Cellular. Verizon's coverage stops about 10 miles west. Both use CDMA 1xRTT, and my aging (year old now!) v710 is happy with voice on either network. Unfortunately, I can't use data services on US Cellular, though I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of linking the authorization systems. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC approves Net-wiretapping taxes
http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6067971.htmlWASHINGTON--Broadband providers and Internet phone companies will have to pick up the tab for the cost of building in mandatory wiretap access for police surveillance, federal regulators ruled Wednesday.Ooof. So we not only have to ensure that the government can snoop on our subscribers, but *pay for it*. Best,-- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] more CRM
speaking of ACT and crm .. anyone use MS Business Contact Manager? Or Dynamics? the latter looks like overkill. also - any favorite tricks for making calls from the CRM through softphones or otherwise? On 5/12/06, Jeff Broadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've had a couple scares in the last few years, so I back up ACT and severalother programs at least weekly. It's not that big of a deal...just have toremember to do it.Best,-- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] more CRM
vtiger and sugarcrm are the best i've seen .. also looked at tinycrm, and maybe there's something there but it seems pretty rough. i might pull something out of it for integration with Plone, though, since both are python. and re: Plone, I recently read a blog about some integration with salesforce.com, which might be really nice.best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz Under Attack
By who? Why? When? Who's [EMAIL PROTECTED]? etc.On 5/12/06, John Scrivner < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:There is an effort being perpetuated to try to eliminate or at least restrict our ability to use 900 MHz for wireless broadband. We needstories of how 900 MHZ is being used today by WISPs, Muini's, etc. tobring broadband to the masses where nothing else will do the job. Send your stories to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Here is my 900 MHz usage example:Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc. is a WISP (Wireless Internet Service Provider) inrural Southern Illinois. Our entire business model is based on serving broadband to markets where service is either not available or not widelyavailable. There are many trees in Southern Illinois. These trees have atendancy to make WiFi and other low-power, higher-frequency wireless broadband options very weak for delivery of broadband due to absorptionof the signal by the trees. This means many people cannot get the signaleven when in close proximity to a tower location. The only option available to WISP operations in these conditions is 900 MHz broadbanddelivery. This unlicensed 900 MHz band is used in 40% of all my ruralcustomer connections.Mt. Vernon. Net was fortunate enough to receive grant funding through the USDA Rural Utility Service to provide broadband to customers in thesmall town of Bluford, Illinois. This town of roughly 750 people had noother broadband at all. They also had many mature trees all over town. The only way to effectively serve this community was with 900 MHzWaverider brand equipment. The system is now online and works flawlessly.The best example of the importance of this 900 MHz system in rural broadband delivery was in a the case last year of a young man in Blufordwho developed Leukemia. He had to have a bone marrow transplant whichled to his complete isolation from all people to stop any possibleinfection. The transplant left him with no immune system. This young man could have easily died. His biggest concern though was finishing schoolwith his 2nd grade class. We used the 900 MHz wireless system to delivera virtual classroom connection for this young man. He could pan, tilt and zoom a camera from his web browser at home as if he were at school.900 MHz broadband technology is the "secret sauce" in making storieslike this possible. It is the ONLY option WISPs have in bringing rural broadband online quickly and efficiently when other technologies willnot do the job.. The unlicensed 900 MHz technology we are using is anabsolute necessity in making rural broadband options available today in all of the United States.John ScrivnerPresidentMt. Vernon. Net, Inc.--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz Under Attack
Sure it can. But it makes a lot more sense for someone to post the basic who-what-where-when's with a message right off the batt. On 5/13/06, Dawn DiPietro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dylan,Google can be your friend at times like these.Here is a link. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=new+america+foundation+&btnG=Google+SearchNever mind why would a wisp need 900 Mhz anyways?Police mobility? Nah.My apologies to the list,Dawn DiPietro Dylan Oliver wrote:> By who? Why? When? Who's [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >? etc.>> On 5/12/06, *John Scrivner* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> > There is an effort being peing used today by WISPs, Muini's, etc. to> bring broadband to the masses where nothing else will do the job. Send> your stories to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> Here is my 900 MHz usage example:>> Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc. is a WISP (Wireless Internet Service > Provider) in> rural Southern Illinois. Our entire business model is based on> serving> broadband to markets where service is either not available or not> widely > available. There are many trees in Southern Illinois. These trees> have a> tendancy to make WiFi and other low-power, higher-frequency wireless> broadband options very weak for delivery of broadband due to > absorption> of the signal by the trees. This means many people cannot get the> signal> even when in close proximity to a tower location. The only option> available to WISP operations in these conditions is 900 MHz broadband > delivery. This unlicensed 900 MHz band is used in 40% of all my rural> customer connections.>> Mt. Vernon. Net was fortunate enough to receive grant funding through> the USDA Rural Utility Service to provide broadband to customers > in the> small town of Bluford, Illinois. This town of roughly 750 people> had no> other broadband at all. They also had many mature trees all over> town.> The only way to effectively serve this community was with 900 MHz > Waverider brand equipment. The system is now online and works> flawlessly.>> The best example of the importance of this 900 MHz system in rural> broadband delivery was in a the case last year of a young man in > Bluford> who developed Leukemia. He had to have a bone marrow transplant which> led to his complete isolation from all people to stop any possible> infection. The transplant left him with no immune system. This > young man> could have easily died. His biggest concern though was finishing> school> with his 2nd grade class. We used the 900 MHz wireless system to> deliver> a virtual classroom connection for this young man. He could pan, tilt > and zoom a camera from his web browser at home as if he were at> school.>> 900 MHz broadband technology is the "secret sauce" in making stories> like this possible. It is the ONLY option WISPs have in bringing > rural> broadband online quickly and efficiently when other technologies will> not do the job.. The unlicensed 900 MHz technology we are using is an> absolute necessity in making rural broadband options available > today in> all of the United States.> John Scrivner> President> Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc.>>> --> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe:> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/>>>>> --> Dylan Oliver> Primaverity, LLC >>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 5/12/2006>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] soho router to replace wrt54g?
On 5/16/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh yeah, and turn off upnp. Anyone know what that really does anyway? Why turn off UPnP if you don't know what it does? Wikipedia has a good page about it. I learned that it does a lot more than NAT traversal for bittorrent! Bottom-posting is good, for one, because it encourages one to delete all the irrelevant text you top-posters leave at the bottom. Also, it's great for responding to messages point-by-point. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Email Hosting
On 5/17/06, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: List, Anyone know a good place to out-source email hosting to? Google has 'Hosted Gmail' in beta .. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] more CRM
On 5/12/06, Peter R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SalesLogix and SalesForce.com spend big advertising dollars.SugarCRM is the platform for SalesForce.com, which is moving deep intothe on-demand, hosted app space.Peter,Where did you learn that SalesForce.com is based on SugarCRM? I would expect the latter to advertise the former's use of its product in bold letters on the front page, but can't find any documentation to support your assertion. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)
Hi Jack,These are known as Studio Transmitter Links, and we've planned a few for our local radio conglomerates as the licensed 950 MHz STL space is rapidly melting down (who'd ever guess there could be so much interference in a licensed band!). Unlicensed is fine in many cases, but but any commercial station with advertising dollars at stake should look at licensed links and definitely needs fast-failover to ISDN, DSL, etc with adaptive codecs. Contact me off-list for more.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!
On 5/30/06, Patrick Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are right about our having some folks going back years. Maybe thelongest example would Jason's Midcoast in Maine. Midcoast goes back at leastto 1997. In addition to those, we have a pretty good crop of more recent operators that have moved upstream, so to speak. A prototypical example ofone like that is Marty Dougherty's Roadstar Internet in Loudon County, VA.He transitioned upward twice from where he started in terms of vendor choice. We also have a healthy number of CLECs, especially post-DSLderegulation.Patrick,If you don't mind, please elucidate us (me) on the subject of upward mobility in the BWIA foodchain .. I'm intrigued by the term "vendor choice" - what are the criteria? What are the benefits of assumed standing? What patterns do you see in the success and failure of network operators? Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remote Backup Services
On 6/2/06, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: p.s. I am a top poster too :) And I wouldn't hate you for it if you didn't leave all that cruft at the bottom. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Routers
You might check Peplink.com for its Balance products - http://www.peplink.com/productsLoader.php?productName=balance . The 200 supports two WAN connections with max throughput of 30 Mbps, and the 700 has seven WAN ports with max throughput of 350 Mbps. They are $845 and $3995, respectively.I've been watching these guys with interest, and was happy to see their Surf product selected as the first Tropos-approved client bridge. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ATA - SIP Adapters
On 6/21/06, Peter R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be far cheaper to send them a "SET-UP" CD that includes copiesof AVS anti-virus, Ad-aware, and other security software. And has asoftphone client on the CD. Soft Phone can be pre-set.CD would have to be autoplay with a GUI. Forget CDs and load all the software (don't forget Firefox, CCleaner, etc) on a branded USB thumbdrive. -- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington
On 6/27/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understand the reasoning behind "why" a lot of operators want to dothis or think it's a good thing. But, in my market, cable and DSLdoesn't charge this way. And I'll have to admit that I like to do video across the net watching news etc.Unfortunately the market place has ruled out metered or measuredbroadband. So we need to think about the future, and the future is abusier network. Not sure I'd want to start charging by the bit at this point along the way.(just wondering) Do you have something to back up the statement that "the market place has ruled out metered or measured broadband", or only assume so because you do not see it being done? I know WildBlue, for one, meters bandwidth usage and limits it aggresively when one oversteps the allotted amount. And it sounds like Mac is doing pretty well with bandwidth caps. So how again exactly is a usage limit "ruled out"? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.fon.com - a threat to us all? - back to net neutrality
On 6/28/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it was, then it would be illegal to block hackers and criminals from using your network as well. As FON clearly has no concern for Acceptable Use Policiies, therefore illegal activity, and AUPs are clearly allowable and enforcable contracts. Strategically its a great time for FON to release their venture, to test the rules, the public, and ISPs. Wow, have any of you actually reviewed their site? OMFG the sky is falling ! You may be interested in http://en.fon.com/biz/isps_friends.php.Also, the Terms and Conditions of Use CLEARLY states:4. Prior RequirementsThe user that opts for the Linus or Bill category, should, prior to accepting these T&Cs and before registering with the FON Community:(i) have a FON Social Router or a router that is compatible with the FONSoftware and (ii) have a contract with an ISP that permits the FONero to share bandwidth.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington
On 6/29/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Wild Blue , good example. Wild Blue is a fringe broadband player.Cable and DSL set the rules. They are the majority of the market.The majority of the market does not charge by the bit, but the fringe does. Guess thats proof enough.No, it's not proof of anything. My *guess* is that charging by the bit really doesn't impact penetration as much as you *assume*. How many people even know what a bit is? Much less the difference between a bit and a byte? How many people read AUPs before they sign on. Etc. Questions, not assumptions. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.fon.com - a threat to us all? - back to net neutrality
On 6/29/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The difference between FON and nimrod customers, is that FON isexploiting this for THEIR gain. is flowing, at my expense, intoFON's pockets, due to a nimrod customer that installed their gear at the violation of my AUP.Again, plz read fon.com website, so conveniently located at fon.com. Especially the page which invites operators to participate in the extraction of $$$ from Aliens and Bills using access points hosted by your subscribers. ya.-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nortel Box for Failover Broadband Connection
What's the model number?On 7/10/06, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone had suggested that a Nortel router could be used to providefailover between two broadband connections. Can you please help me? Webought one of these boxes and now my sysadmin tells me we have noability to use this box because Nortel will not give us access to the configuration software or the manual due to this box being end of lifed.If you have used the Nortel box then please help us.Thanks,Scriv--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
The CWNA, CWSP, and CWNP exams have been published by Planet3.com for a good while now. (I passed on March 3, 2005). It's a good test. The objective list is here: http://www.cwnp.com/exams/pw0100_objectives.htmlOn 7/26/06, Peter R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN AdministrationPosted on: 07/25/2006-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kaplan Launches CWNA Practice Exam for WLAN Administration
The study guide, anyway, is an excellent reference. That and Jack Unger's book. On 7/26/06, Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:So this is the same as A+ certification and the word WIFI.You have a Good Day now, -- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sedona, AZ
Wisp acquisitions are actually quite frequent in Sedona, which, as you may know, is renowned as a nexus of spiritual energies. Will o' the Wisps arise spontaneously and lead their victims deep into the desert with dazzling display of lights. The would-be spiritual seekers are then possessed, or 'acquired', and never seen or heard from ever again. Be careful out there,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] photo cell power
Hi John,Do you know the name of the company which makes the adapters for Cisco? Also, how are the 1500s holding up?Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] orthogon gemini lite connectorized
Hi WISPA,I really, really, *really* need to get my hands on a connectorized OS Gemini Lite. I've had an order in with Tessco since June 21st and it's been backordered *again* til the 22nd of August. Clear Channel is not happy! So if you're sitting on a connectorized OS Gemini Lite with no plans to use it before September - help a dues-paying member out!Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 WRAP boards in 1 mini-box 4A2E
Nope. I'd ask the folks at mini-box.com. But I really like those Mini-Box enclosures .. do they fit anything else? RouterBoards? On 8/8/06, Aubrey Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know where I can get the correct hex standoffs to stack twoWRAP boards in a mini-box 4A2E enclosure? Thanks.-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone had success with SR9 and Trango CPEs at 900Mhz? [ed: s/Trango/Tranzeo?]
Don't remember anything about Trango and SR9; maybe you're thinking Tranzeo.On 8/16/06, rabbtux rabbtux <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Read here awhile back that a new Trango 900Mhz cpe used the sameAtheros chipset that the SR9 uses. Has anyone tracked this down? Is it a no-go?Thanksmarshall--WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 73 mile link
Sure it is .. send over some coordinates and we'll check it out.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] zip codes covered
We all know the FCC's zipcode-based accounting of broadband availability grossly overestimates the reality of the matter. Why not request and track the the number of households served in each zipcode? On 6/7/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I'm working on a couple of projects and I'm having trouble finding the size of the *potential* market covered by the wisp industry. This info will not specifically go out to anyone else. Nothing will tie your name/company to your zip codes. I'm just after the zip codes that you hit today. PLEASE send me an OFF-LIST email with the zips. I'll put them all in one doc and will then have someone run them through a program that will give us population numbers for each zip. If you guys think it's reasonable I can then release those results (you'll know more about your zip code demographics) or keep them private. Either way is fine with me. I need this data for three things. One is regulatory/legislative clout. Everyone wants to know how many people are affected by wisps. Two is disaster relief. I need to know what zip codes are covered so that we can find operators near disasters easier. Third is a national roaming/wholesale program I'm working on (think cell phone like abilities with broadband!). Thanks much! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Something like (mt) Media Temple's new sysadmin interface for the iPhone ( http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/) would be ideal! (except for the iPhone, and AT&T) On 8/6/07, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell > phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine > wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to > have a typo on something important. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RJ-45 and crimpers
I second the EZ-RJ45 tools - but get some extra blades for the cutter on the handle as mine seemed to nick really easily (so it cuts only 7 of 8 wires cleanly!) On 8/14/07, Smith, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If this is going in that conduit, use gel filled, not shielded. > > I'm in love with EZ-RJ45's. They're expensive - $.55 / connector or so, > but MAN do they save time and you KNOW it's done in the right pattern. > > http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45/EZ-RJ45+Crimping+System > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Informative Spectrum Paper
Thanks for posting this great paper, Jack! It gives an excellent history of the regulation of the airwaves and pulls out some good parallels between the issues of then and now. I don't usually post one-liners but this paper deserves a bump. On 8/26/07, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This paper is suggested reading for those who want an understanding of > how the spectrum decisions are made that affect the wireless Internet > industry. > > > > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID1007221_code342675.pdf?abstractid=1007221&mirid=5 > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] In support of legal operation
I gather that this is a response of the ad hominem variety Matt just predicted, but could you clarify your meaning? Aren't we all businesses (and constituents, business and otherwise)? On 9/2/07, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matt > > Seeing you and Ralph are business constituants and shoulder to shoulder, > I wouldn't expect you to stray from the party line > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks
Isn't WildBlue actually leasing a HughesNet/DirecWay satellite? Thus sprach a HughesNet installer, anyway. On 9/10/07, Steve Stroh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Allen: > > While progress in satellite communications can be measured in 5 year > increments - to design, fund, and launch them... technological > progress DOES come, and has. Spot beams are now a standard feature on > all new satellites, and it's beginning to make a big difference. Watch > to see what happens with WildBlue over the next year as they bring > their built-for-purpose satellite online, as opposed to using "one > big, continent-spanning transponder" technology. > > Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks
Not so. Just look up the opening bid for your CMA.. On 9/10/07, Allen Marsalis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks George. Sounds like wise advice to me considering all the > things happening within the industry in recent years. Google is > petitioning the FCC for nationwide prime spectrum? I'm short a few > billion it seems.. Even if my idea is technically doable, then I > must go find the right markets which is a challenge all in itself. I > sometimes see data centers and there aren't many dialup customers > left and lots of empty modems. How Netzero can still afford to run > ads I do not know. > > Allen > > > At 03:23 PM 9/10/2007, George Rogato wrote: > >I'm glad your still around the industry Allen, every one in a while > >someone says, Where's Allen M? Makes us wonder. > >Myself, I would only look at 900 as a temporary frequency to use. > >Maybe a couple years, more in the very rural areas and less urban wise. > > > >Too many others are using 900 or starting to use it. Electric and > >water companies for meter reading, walmart and other bigbox for id > >and our portable phones still use 900 even when their 2.4 or 5.8. > > > >So if building something out and realizing it has a short time span > >works. Then 900 is workable. > > > > > >George > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at > ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at > http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > ---- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Larger pole mount for Moto/Orthogon backhauls
I've never seen a larger mount for the Gemini. I just use a pipe to pipe adapter. On 9/21/07, Patrick Shoemaker < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > List, > > I'm trying to mount a Motorola PTP 400 series backhaul (Orthogon Gemini) > on a pole that is just ever so slightly too large for the mount that is > included in the box. Is a larger pole mount made for this radio or am I > stuck having to get a set of pipe standoffs and mount a smaller pipe to > the existing one? > > Patrick Shoemaker > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax World , anyone going?
I'll be there. On 9/22/07, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Im going to Chicago next week for Wimax World, anyone else going? > Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] changes to ULS for 3650
I just ran across a notice regarding changes to the ULS to accomodate the new 3650 band. The notice is dated September 9th, so this may well be old news: http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/data/documentation/pa_changes28.pdf This doesn't really tell me anything beyond "they're working on it." Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
Hey Patrick, any comment on the rumors that Cisco is looking to acquire Alvarion, Redline, or one of the other players for WiMAX? http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=134954 Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
0. > >>> > >>> Base stations to support the mobile "personal broadband" devices > >>> will be > >>> require the addition of tons of things, like ASN gateways, AAA > >>> servers, > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> Patrick > >>> Alvarion > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> - > >> - > > > >> -- > >> > >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > >> 2007 at ISPCON ** > >> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA > >> www.ispcon.com ** > >> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > >> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** > >> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > >> www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > >> > >> - > >> - > > > >> -- > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> - > >> - > > > >> -- > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > > -- > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > > 2007 at > > ISPCON ** > > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at > > http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > -- > > -- > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > > -- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > ** > > ** > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > > > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > > computer viruses(190). > > > > ** > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > ** > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > > > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > > computer viruses(42). > > > > ** > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > ** This footnote confirms that this email message has > > been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious > > code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > ** > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > ** > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > > computer viruses. > > ** > > ** > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > > 2007 at ISPCON ** > > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > > www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > -- > > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > > -- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at > ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at > http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charles Wu email address
"Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?
Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at > ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at > http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AT&T To Buy Wireless Spectrum From Aloha Partners For $2.5 Billion
You're right that Aloha paid $43.3 million for their first 77 licenses in the auction. They then went on to buy out Cavalier and DataCom: …In a related development, on February 1, 2005, Aloha Partners LP announced that it will purchase Cavalier Group LLC and DataCom Wireless LLC, respectively the second and third largest owners of 700 MHz spectrum in the US. Aloha Partners now has spectrum sufficient for a (mostly) nationwide network, including spectrum in the top ten urban markets and "84% of the top forty urban markets". (Steve Stroh, as quoted at http://www.dailywireless.org/2005/02/25/the-700-mhz-club/) Cavalier bought their markets for around $10 million. DataCom bought theirs for about $5 million. The $2.5 billion AT&T paid to cover 196 million people works out to $12.76 per person. Compare this to the average paid per person in Auction 44 - about $0.55! <http://hightechmagazine.com/ManageArticle.asp?C=100&A=5953> On 10/9/07, Joshua Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What a considerable profit considering they paid 43.3 million for it in > 2002. > > Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)
This isn't the wireless line card, but several vendors at WiMax World were showing off the Cisco ASN Gateway (or at least a 7600 with a SAMI card): http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps8738/products_data_sheet0900aecd806cdb72.html But you probably knew that. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz - just an FYI
On 10/15/07, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Additional things that would be helpful (just my personal opinion) > > 1. Relax the interference resistance requirement for Part 101 (systems > today don't need the 90 dB SNR that analogue systems from the 80s > required...) > > 2. Decrease the license grant to 5 years (it's a PITA trying to contact > companies that are out of business to see if it's ok to deply It would also have the happy side-effect of doubling your license coordination business! But seriously, I see how attempting to contact out-of-business companies is a waste of time - but is it any different from attempting to contact in-business companies? Take the address out of the database and send mail. They reply within thirty days or don't. It's not your responsibility to track them down if they haven't updated the EN table. The one real problem I see with OOB companies is that they can't respond to requests for expedited coordination. Maybe there's a way to look up and weed out closed businesses. 3. 3.9 GHz What's this? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link to FCC site for Earth Stations
http://selafoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/ib/forms/reports/swr030b.hts?set=#earthReport Or, more directly (a table of Earth Stations, sorted by state): http://selafoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/ib/forms/reports/swr010b.hts On 10/26/07, Mike Delp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chuck, > > Thanks for the link but it is not what I am looking for. There are a > number > of Earth Stations that use C band Satellite Dishes that are to be avoided > with 3650 MHz stuff. I saw a link that showed the locations and their GPS > coordinates. > > Ps It was great talking with you at ISPCON. > > Mike > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650
No idea. They'd have to modify it to extend its bandwidth from 3.4-3.6 to include 3.7 first. It does seem like an obvious thing to do, but then I don't know how they're trying to position the AN-100U vs AN-100 for PtMP .. On Nov 16, 2007 9:52 AM, Mike Bushard, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup, that's the one. Any idea if they are going to submit it for > certification? > > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650
Maybe you are thinking of the AN-100, which does 3.4-3.6? http://www.redlinecommunications.com/products/AN100.html *AN-100* > Award-winning Carrier-Class Backhaul Solution Redline's award-winning > AN-100 is a scalable carrier-class broadband wireless solution for * > point-to-point* and multipoint backhaul networks. On Nov 16, 2007 9:13 AM, Mike Bushard, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Didn't redline have a 3.5Ghz backhaul that would work in this band? Can't > find it on the site anymore. > > Mike Bushard, Jr > Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC > 320-256-WISP (9477) > 320-256-9478 Fax > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 7:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 3650 > > Now that P15 is reporting that 3650 is available, who all makes equipment > for it? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650
All of the experimental licenses I reviewed specified Aperto PacketWave (most) or Redline's AN-100. Though Ubiquiti has a card for 3650, you won't be able to use it until it is certified. The FCC isn't joking; they say as much in *BOLD* letters: *Applications for nationwide, non-exclusive licenses may be filed now and* > *licensees may file station registrations for restricted equipment.* > > *Licensees may NOT file station registrations for unrestricted equipment* > *until the FCC has certified unrestricted equipment for the 3650 MHz band. > * > Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650
The only thing the OET equipment search certifies is that the OET equipment search is just as BROKEN as the rest of the FCC's data reporting facilities. When you come to analyzing database extracts of transmitter locations for 3650 (or whatever), beware that the 'counts' file is off because the FCC doesn't strip linefeeds from e.g. address records, which screws up all bulk import tools as well as their own counting script. Presumably the counts are correct in Sybase, their native database system. Oh, and one out of 30 or so tables in the l_micro extract is tab-delimited rather than pipe-delimited. Surprise! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 PtMP vs. 2.4 PtMP
Reading Covad's narrative rationale for their license, it sounded to me like they were offering limited commercial service on a limited, clearly-labeled-as-experimental basis: "The use of limited market studies will permit equipment testing (like other markets) as well as deployment of limited subscriber equipment to understand market requirements as well as technological issues associated with this spectrum. Covad hereby agrees to comply with the provisions of Section 5.93 in conducting its limited market study. In particular, Covad will: (a) own all of the transmitting and/or receiving equipment; and (b) be responsible for informing anyone participating in the experiment that the service is granted under an experimental authorization and is strictly temporary." Here's Section 5.93: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=c8dac1967310be65aa88f8d1956f1241&rgn=div8&view=text&node=47:1.0.1.1.6.2.237.22&idno=47 (sorry for the long link; TinyURL isn't working) Their "limited deployment" consisted of 16 Aperto Packetwave base stations and 200 subscriber units with authorization to operate at 20+ locations across many markets: http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=30877&license_seq=31192 Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
You are either a troll or willfully ignorant. There are tens of thousands of programs available for linux: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo wajig list-names | sed -e '/lib/d' | wc Password: 17883 17883 239642 There are 17883 packages (which do not match the phrase 'lib', to weed out about 7000 libraries) available for immediate installation on my system. On Dec 9, 2007 6:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for > it, they would be of benefit or offer a little competition to > MicroSoft > But when it is barely into the hundreds, it is easy to have it work so > easily. > > > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think that Fedora is "geekier" than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty geeky, but I run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we please agree that there is nothing inherently more geeky about one distro vs another - though Ubuntu happens to be used by more non-geeks than Fedora? :) On Dec 10, 2007 11:46 AM, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For a "family computer", I'd go with Ubuntu/Kubuntu. For a "geek > computer", Fedora would be good. Either one will require a bit of > time to get working with some things, but the end result is a good > experience. > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC Sweeping Design LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
Freshbooks is fantastic for service invoicing. It handles recurring billing with supporting payment gateways, and also gives you the option to send paper invoices (monthly, automatically!) for a little more than a dollar. Roger Coude just announced Linux-friendly 8.6.0 this morning. It's worked under WINE for a while now, but only after messing with .dlls. Here's his announcement: After intensive modifications in the program, it is now possible to run Radio Mobile in a Linux-Wine environment and obtain almost the same performance as in Windows. The changes also benefit Windows user because the drawing speed has increased, and the picture limit size jumped from 2000 to 5000 pixels. Unfortunalely, due to the modifications done to rmwdlx32.dll, update will have to be completed manually otherwise you will get a dll error (file rmcore.zip in the download page). To install under Linux, get the latest version of Wine, and run the Microsoft VBruntime installer. No more tricks with native dlls! The program just run fine with Wine built-in librairies! Note that all download from internet are doing fine at my home connexion (I use Kubuntu). Still to be tested behind a proxy... I have unlocked the map pixel size to 1 pixels for test purpose, but I do not garantee anything above 2000. Have fun! Roger 2007/12/10 Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: > > > Adobe Photoshop > > GIMP > > > Scansoft Paperport > > Don't know what this one is. If it is a scanner driver, then there > is one called "sane" for Linux. There is possibly more > functionality in your app, but I am not familiar with what it is or > does. > > > Quickbooks > > GnuCash works well. It is not "compatible" with QB, but it's > functionality is similar and even looks a lot like QB. I have moved > most of my invoicing to an online solution (see > https://butchevansconsulting.freshbooks.com/signup/) for a free > trial for Freshbooks. It is a web based application, so it works > for ANY OS. > > > iTunes (for my iPhone) > > MP3? I am not an iTunes user, so perhaps I am missing what you are > after here, but manipulating MP3 files and interacting with a cell > phone (via bluetooth, USB or IR) is easy. There are MANY places to > download music (legal places like iTunes). > > > Streets and Trips 2008 > > I use google maps for this, but there is another program called > GpsDrive that will provide you with similar functionality as Streets > and Trips. The only thing that may be missing is the ability to > export your trip data to your mobile phone, if you use that sort of > functionality. For use in the car, I don't use my laptop OR phone. > Instead, I use a GPS for the car, so perhaps there are other > features that you can't get that I am not aware of. > > > Radio Mobile > > Hmm...Not sure if RM will run under Linux with WINE, but I see > instructions to install it, so I presume it will work. > > > Quark Xpress > > Not sure what this is, either. > > > Visio > > DIA. DIA is a diagramming tool with functionality that is similar > (maybe better) than Visio. > > FWIW, the openoffice toolset is a MUCH better solution, IMO than > Microsoft's Office suite. I use presentation software ALL the time > (for the classes I teach), so to me, that is a VERY important > requirement. One benefit (for me) to OpenOffice is that it will > export directly to PDF format. It can open MS Office documents, and > even write in that format. Evolution offers the email solution that > is similar in function to Outlook, in that it has a contact manager, > calendar function and can sync with Windows Mobile phones. > > Firefox is a better browser, but there is a distribution of Internet > Explorer for Linux as well, if you have sites that require IE. > > There are THOUSANDS of other applications available. These are just > a few examples. Many games are not going to run on Linux, but there > are a LOT of games available for Linux, too. I am not a gamer, so I > can't speak to what is and is not available for this. > > -- > Butch Evans > Network Engineering and Security Consulting > 573-276-2879 > http://www.butchevans.com/ > My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 > Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf > Mikrotik Certified Consultant > http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html > > > ---- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > &g
Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
Glad we can be friends again! There is a 'server' edition for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition. I just noticed a version optimized for VMWare ( http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos), which is great for me as I run XP for Quickbooks and Manifold and Adobe CS3 but keep Ubuntu running in the background as a development server. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Linux command question
sed doesn't remove files, though your command might produce a listing of the files stripped of all mention of $file in /home/devicsil. On Dec 15, 2007 9:45 AM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would the following command remove ../../Templates/ from all files in the > /home/devicsil/public_html/Templates directory? > > > > for file in ls /home/devicsil/public_html/Templates ; do > > sed -e 's/..\/..\/Templates\///g' "$file" > > echo > > done > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PHP Helpdesk
Kayako is really fabulous: http://www.kayako.com On Dec 19, 2007 7:20 AM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation for a PHP helpdesk? > > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail server setup
Have you considered http://www.google.com/a? Free, awesome, and ever-so-easy to administer. I just don't see the point of bothering with your own mail server. On Jan 6, 2008 3:44 PM, Ugo Bellavance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I will probably have to design an e-mail (and other components) > infrastructure for a small ISP soon (WISP). > > I'm doing some research to determine which components would be best > to offer e-mail services to their client and allow the staff to manage > accounts easily. > > I usually use virtual machines a lot for isolation and easy backups > and migration (when a hardware node is underpowered, it is easy to > migrate one or more virtual machines to another hardware node easily). > > I have looked at iSCSI and drbd for high-availability of the > storage: > http://www.pcpro.co.uk/realworld/82284/san-on-the-cheap/page1.html. > > This looks like it should be doing a great job of high availability > storage. > > For mail server, I guess I should look at an MTA and IMAP/POP > server that supports LDAP and/or MySQL for users. Postfix should be a > good choice for MTA, as I know it (at least a little, but I know > sendmail better). For IMAP/POP, I'm not sure... Would dovecot be > sufficient, or should I try cyrus. I'd rather use components that are > available for base or extras repository (or rpmforge). I think that > squirrelmail and horde would do a good job for webmail. > > There shoudn't be any troubles having some redundancy for DNS, web > servers, mtas, but what about IMAP/POP? linux-HA? MySQL replication > should be enough, I guess. Or maybe linux-HA as well. I wonder if I > should add GFS to the mix to have multiple IMAP/POP servers use the same > storage. Or maybe IMAP proxies? > > Any insights welcome :) . > > Ugo > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fwd: FCC expected to officially propose DSL deregulation on Thursday
"If the vote goes according to Mr. Martin's plan, and the telecommunications companies find themselves free of the requirement that they open their broadband networks to competitors, it could have an immediate effect on ISPs such as America Online and EarthLink. This fall, they could find themselves scrambling for broadband alternatives. " How 'bout them alternatives? How you all doing on the build-out of your Open Provider Networks? Come on. AOL may need you! -- Forwarded message --From: Fergie (Paul Ferguson) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Aug 3, 2005 12:27 PMSubject: FCC expected to officially propose DSL deregulation on ThursdayTo: nanog@merit.edu"United States Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin is expected to officially propose thederegulation of DSL services from telecommunicationscarriers on Thursday."http://www.redherring.com/article.aspx?a=13022 - ferg--"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul FergusonEngineering Architecture for the Internet[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz vs Leaves
Please see the thread "Foliage Penetration" (was Trango vs. Canopy or some-such). Here's what Matt Liotta said: We have found 5.8Ghz OFDM gear better than 900Mhz when it comes to NLOS links through foliage. We attribute this to a few things. First, the noise floor at 900Mhz is higher than 5.8Ghz due mostly to paging services. Second, Fresnel effects are a real problem for low antennas at 900Mhz. Finally, OFDM is simply better able to deal with multi-path interference. If you haven't had a chance to try equipment from Orthogon Systems then I would suggest you see for yourself.In regard to power at 900Mhz vs. 5.8Ghz, check your FCC regulations.5.8Ghz point-to-point links allow for the use of any antenna gain you desire assuming you have limited transmit power to 1W. --- After much misinterpretation, Matt clarified that he believed Orthogon Systems succeeded not by penetrating leaves, but by using multipath reflections *around* them. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Training questions
On this thread .. I wonder if anyone can vouch for the *reliability* of Waverider's 900 MHz system under load .. say 100 / radio?-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows
I'll be in Utah .. leaving tomorrow night. Be a long drive from Wisconsin, but have another driver and the time difference works in our favor (on the way there, anyway). Hope to be there for registration Monday night. Look forward to meeting y'all. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows
Spring Green, Wisconsin is truly lovely with all these damned hills.. I'll volunteer it!-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Charles, would you expand on that?On 8/22/05, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW...no invester (other than friends and family) worth their salt will bewilling to invest capital into the company for a minority position, as thatis basically a sure way to guarantee the loss of their money That said, there is a fool born every day-Charles -- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
Regarding which, when will the reports on 900 MHz et al be released to attendees of the conference? Wondering what to do with my waverider given new dedication to Moto... ooh, I think I'll coin a new term: "Moto Ho"-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Waverider 900 mhz throughput
Great! Please do send me a private email with vendor-unfiltered results when assembled :) Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Here's a question for the group.....
There's the numbers, but I'd focus more on: how much can you give while still making a profit? 256k for $159/mo sounds a little ridiculous to me, but I don't know your market. Is $79/mo unprofitable, or just less profitable?-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Billing system recommendations?
On 8/26/05, Matt Larsen - Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use Freeside. We just upgraded to the latest version and it worksreally well for our application. Should have RT trouble ticket systemintegrated into it next week and that is the finishing touch that willmake it just about perfect. Matt, Freeside looks nice - and I'm excited to see the trouble ticketing worked in - but how do you integrate it into your accounting systems? Do you use Quickbooks or an OSS option? Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
See: http://www.xo.com/about/network/maps/complete_large.html-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Re[2]: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Speaking of Charles and cash flow projections, I found Charles' example available at http://www.wispreviews.com to be a good starting point. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MotoWi4
Hi,
I read Motorola's recent announcement of the MotoWi4 platform for
802.16e with interest. I found it even MORE interesting that they've
backdated this announcement - which came out the other day - to July
25. If intentional, this move would seem to supercede their previous
announcement to build 802.16d updates for the Canopy Advantage
platform. That's alright and all, but it does seem a little tricky to
rewrite history ("Motorola recently announced a major joint technology
development
agreement with Sprint for wireless broadband WiMAX 802.16e technology
testing and equipment trials." - no, they announced trials for
802.16*d*).
Mostly, I'd just like to know where they're going, and if the Canopy
Advantage will really be all that - or if it will fall flat on its face
as the "redheaded stepchild of Motorola", as someone suggested at
WiNOG, in deference to MotoWi4.
Anybody got a clue?-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Lightning protecting WRAPs
What is FiberCor, and where do you get it? Would you post a pic of one of these assemblies? Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … Dylan Oliver …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929104701 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 -- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's WIFI- San Francisco
I downloaded the client, and was most interested to see the tagline in the "About" window: Tunc tua res agitur, Paries cum proximus ardet. Which my extensive training in classical Latin interprets as: Then your property is in danger, when the nearest wall is burning. I'd definitely take that as a warning! I'll also do what I can to cash in on googlemania .. even if it's just to say "New! Secured by Google Access! Download here!" Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype 902-928MHzMini-PCICard
They said it wouldn't be done! Also: Why only 4/2/1 non-overlapping channels? Why not 3? Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
