Re: [WISPA] 120* Sectors

2006-02-12 Thread JohnnyO




I would change to either of these antennas :

Part No: SAH24-16-G
Item Description: 16dBi 95Deg HPOL Sector Antenna, N Female Connector, Single Bracket
Price: $209.95

We have several of these deployed and are easily getting 120deg of coverage out of them even though their rated for 95deg. Also - You will see a night and day difference on your current links and may actually bump several of them to 5.5mbps from 1mbps.

Also Brian - You are running 15dBi CPEs at these locations - I've suggested multiple times that you upgrade the CPEs to 19dBi units. Goto the higher gain sectors and then see what you are working with.

If you really wanna give your sectors a kick in the arse - Go with something like this - http://www.teletronics.com/antenna2-422dBidirectional.html
Going with this 22dBi Sector will definitely push most of your links into 5.5mbps.

Contact Roger Peters - [EMAIL PROTECTED] or give him a shout at 210-601-7727. He's got the best pricing on pacwireless antennas and he also sells Teletronics antennas / amps / radios.

JohnnyO







On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 13:22 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Here is what I use.
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-antennas/2_4Ghz/DT-AN-24-120H-135.html

I have three mounted back to back on a pole.  It all worked fine until I 
hit a higher number of subscribers.  Maybe it's the interference from 
too many subs or maybe it's the fact that a majority of my subs are 
locked into 1M air rate, or maybe its because the subs are NLOS, or 
maybe because of the F/B or side to side isolation.  So what is my 
problems?  High pings and timeouts.  Only when traffic is high.  Or 
maybe my 600k upload is maxed out and everything is stacking up.  One 
thing I do know is I hooked up subs I shouldn't have.

I am looking for advice on antennas.  Check out the ones I am using ans 
point me to 3 sectors that will perform good back to back, NLOS, and 
maybe a higher gain to grab a little more signal to get the 1M subs up 
to 11M.

Thanks all.

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Re: [WISPA] 120* Sectors

2006-02-13 Thread JohnnyO




He is using channel 1 / 6 / 11 - there will be no f/b issues if he is using Non-Overlapping channels.

JohnnyO

On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 06:24 -0600, Pete Davis wrote:


"Back to backk on a pole" might be a problem. Are the antennas at least 
6' apart from each other? (horizontally or vertically?) Physical 
separation may not be an issue until the subscriber numbers go up, but 
it be a problem.

Pete Davis
NoDial.net

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> Here is what I use.
> http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-antennas/2_4Ghz/DT-AN-24-120H-135.html 
>
>
> I have three mounted back to back on a pole.  It all worked fine until 
> I hit a higher number of subscribers.  Maybe it's the interference 
> from too many subs or maybe it's the fact that a majority of my subs 
> are locked into 1M air rate, or maybe its because the subs are NLOS, 
> or maybe because of the F/B or side to side isolation.  So what is my 
> problems?  High pings and timeouts.  Only when traffic is high.  Or 
> maybe my 600k upload is maxed out and everything is stacking up.  One 
> thing I do know is I hooked up subs I shouldn't have.
>
> I am looking for advice on antennas.  Check out the ones I am using 
> ans point me to 3 sectors that will perform good back to back, NLOS, 
> and maybe a higher gain to grab a little more signal to get the 1M 
> subs up to 11M.
>
> Thanks all.
>





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[WISPA] Tranzeo CPQ Opinions

2006-02-13 Thread JohnnyO




We will be doing a large deployment of CPEs in the next 60-90days. I would like to hear all of the negatives or issues people are seeing with the Tranzeo CPQ line.

A huge question I have is will it act as a PPPoE client ?

Any and all comments are helpful, Thanks ! 

JohnnyO


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RE: [WISPA] Ground wire

2006-02-13 Thread JohnnyO




You don't wear a harness when you climb either - How do you expect anyone to take you seriously Kurtster ? 

JohnnyO

On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 19:34 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:


I don't ground client equipment.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


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Subject: [WISPA] Ground wire

	I was just curious for residential installations what size
ground wire people are using?  We have been using all #8 but with the
sky rocketing costs of this have been considering #10 instead.  This is
used between our Polyphaser and the house ground system.  

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[WISPA] Charter Communications

2006-02-15 Thread JohnnyO




Anyone using Charter Cable for their upstream connection into your network ?

How has the experience / performance / reliability been ?

JohnnyO



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[WISPA] Mikrotik - Longest 2.4ghz Shot

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO




What is the longest 2.4ghz shot using Mikrotik and SR2s or CM9s does anyone have working ? Curious 

JohnnyO




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Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO




Take my word also - We fought our 900mhz links for weeks until we moved 36inches away from the tower - even at 30inches you'll be kickin yerself in the arse. 

For 2.4ghz - I've seen issues with anything less then 18inches of seperation from a tower.

JohnnyO

On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 21:42 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote:


I can tell you from experience, mounting it at 6 inches is not a good idea. 
We did that once, in a rush job, when the climbers were there and mounting 
hardware was not. Definate holes in coverage were identified after the fact.

The answer of how far from the tower, is also a factor of how big your tower 
is, and of what kind.

I recommend 18"-24". As for Rick's suggestion of 36", never tried it, so 
don't know, but I see no reason not to take his word for it.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] omni tower separation


>
> actually, at 900 mhz, 36" is preferred.
>
> On one tower, with trango, using an OD9-11 (11 dbi vert omni), I saw 8-10 
> db improvements in my customer connections that were NLOS when I moved the 
> antenna out from 24" to 36"
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
>> I've always been taught that 18" is the minimum.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *To:* wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:12 AM
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] omni tower separation
>>
>> Is 6 inches enough separation with a 9db omni from a 25g tower?,
>> I’ve done it with 12 before and I had no problems, just wondering
>> what 6 would do.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> WAVELINC
>>
>> 114 S. Walnut St.
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> www.wavelinc.com <http://www.wavelinc.com>
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[WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO




Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ? http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg

Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able to learn a little bit about house cleaning from this.

Who is Bob Smith ?

*Bob Smith Wrote*

HI All,

I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you 
all might get
a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower install'

The tower in the pictures is used by a TV translator system , but a new WISP
in Ky. is thinking of putting up a system on the tower also.

He is experiencing a whole lot of electrical noise when he mounts his antennas
on the tower, but he can hold them in his hand, not mounted, and the noise
goes away.  So now he's thinking of wrapping the mounts with electrical tape to
insulate them from the tower and install his equipment.  (Good 
electrical practice?)

My comment to him was "tie a cable to his bumper and to the tower and
drive away from the tower, this way he would be doing both the tower owner and
himself a favor".   No kidding aside, as you can see in the pictures 
(#13 - #27)
the tower is a mess.

http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/index.php

Gawd, ham's get hassled in California for a 30' tower, and in Ky. you can just
put of anything, anyway and use it  ,, Go figure.

Bob Smith
NA6T



Bob Smith
A.R.S NA6T
ARRL Life Member
Fort Bragg, California   95437

"On The Air-Conditioned Mendocino Coast, In REAL Northern California"
No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message.
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[WISPA] Lightning Protection

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO




Does is really do any good to have the supressor inside of the enclosure grounded to everything inside ? I thought the suppressor was supposed to go straight to ground ?

http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5529.jpg


Can someone clarify - I think we've been doing this wrong all of these years if this IS the proper way to do it .

JohnnyO




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Re: [WISPA] Lightning Protection

2006-02-16 Thread JohnnyO




The only reason I asked this and think it's funny - *no offense intended* is b/c one of my techs did an install like this - Apparently when the tower got struck by lightning - the enclosure exploded due to the discharge ring on the supressor inside of the box... I mean literally exploded. I had routerboard / enclosure crap for 100s of ft all around the tower. Wish I could have gotten that on video.

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:20 -0600, JohnnyO wrote:

Does is really do any good to have the supressor inside of the enclosure grounded to everything inside ? I thought the suppressor was supposed to go straight to ground ?

http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5529.jpg


Can someone clarify - I think we've been doing this wrong all of these years if this IS the proper way to do it .

    JohnnyO





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RE: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6

2006-02-17 Thread JohnnyO




I can be there - I have to pick up a RohnSSV tower just south of Jackson... Would be a perfect opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. I'd really like to attend this.


JohnnyO

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 14:20 -0500, Rick Harnish wrote:


Mac, JohnnyO, Joe Laura or Joe Miller, can you make this meeting?

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:16 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6

 Released:  02/17/2006.  FCC'S INDEPENDENT PANEL REVIEWING THE IMPACT OF 
HURRICANE KATRINA ON COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS ANNOUNCES
NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, MARCH 6, 2006
AT THE MISSISSIPPI E-CENTER AT JACKSON STATE UNIVERSITY
 IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
(DA No.  06-371).  EB.
Contact:  Lisa M. Fowlkes at (202) 418-7452 or Jean Ann Collins at (202) 
418-2792.
News Media Contact: Janice Wise at (202) 418-8165 
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.doc>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.pdf>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.txt>


Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884
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Re: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6

2006-02-17 Thread JohnnyO




He's just jealous his wife has been spending more time with a younger more attractive man recently. I don't see why he is upset over this. I try to help buddies out as much as possible ! 

JohnnyO

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 20:08 -0800, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

Did you guys get into a fight somewhere, that didn't end decisively?


     


    Hey, JohnnyO, I know you know how to shower and shave.   Just don't smoke and don't drink, ok?   


 


:)


 


 


 


 


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From: Cliff Leboeuf 




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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:13 PM




Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6






    



JohnnyO,

Would you PLEASE promise shave and bath before representing us? J

- Cliff

 

Oh yea, and cut what little hair you have too!

 












From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6






 

I can be there - I have to pick up a RohnSSV tower just south of Jackson... Would be a perfect opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. I'd really like to attend this.
    

JohnnyO

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 14:20 -0500, Rick Harnish wrote: 


 
Mac, JohnnyO, Joe Laura or Joe Miller, can you make this meeting?
 
Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6
 
 Released:  02/17/2006.  FCC'S INDEPENDENT PANEL REVIEWING THE IMPACT OF 
HURRICANE KATRINA ON COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS ANNOUNCES
NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, MARCH 6, 2006
AT THE MISSISSIPPI E-CENTER AT JACKSON STATE UNIVERSITY
 IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
(DA No.  06-371).  EB.
Contact:  Lisa M. Fowlkes at (202) 418-7452 or Jean Ann Collins at (202) 
418-2792.
News Media Contact: Janice Wise at (202) 418-8165 
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.doc>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.pdf>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.txt>
 
 
Regards,
 
Peter
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We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884
http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm
 
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Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread JohnnyO




Wow - Thank you George - I've never been more flattered ! ! ! ! !

JohnnyO 

On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 11:10 -0800, George wrote:


Well Shannon, WELCOME ABOARD!

This list is made up of some of the best people you would want to 
collaborate with.

George

KyWiFi LLC wrote:
> I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's
> all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point
> so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the
> WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested
> in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA
> (Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member
> ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of
> them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan
> on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm
> not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA
> looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why
> I'm giving it a look.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
> http://www.KyWiFi.com
> http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
> Phone: 859.274.4033
> A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider
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Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread JohnnyO




Well we have a contest for our customers each month - The 1st customers to get their payments in after invoices have been mailed receive a chance for their stubs to go into a hopper to receive 50% off of their next months service  Sooo I was goign to head to the post office today to do this but the damn office is closed So much for a working country ! 

JohnnyO

On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 12:40 -0800, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

 


Well, now... There's always a mushy apple in the bunch...


 


hahahahah


 


What are YOU doing working on this holiday?   :)


 


 


 


 


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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:55 AM




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Wow - Thank you George - I've never been more flattered ! ! ! ! !
    
    JohnnyO 

On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 11:10 -0800, George wrote: 


Well Shannon, WELCOME ABOARD!

This list is made up of some of the best people you would want to 
collaborate with.

George

KyWiFi LLC wrote:
> I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's
> all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point
> so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the
> WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested
> in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA
> (Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member
> ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of
> them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan
> on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm
> not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA
> looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why
> I'm giving it a look.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
> http://www.KyWiFi.com
> http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
> Phone: 859.274.4033
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Re: [WISPA] used Pac Wireless antennas for sale

2006-02-20 Thread JohnnyO




Any of them have added ventilation holes from bullets ? 

JohnnyO

On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 00:13 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

I have 10 pac wireless PA24-19 19db flat panels (2.4GHz) that were recently replaced with different gear. These client end antennas are all working and any reasonable offer will be accepted. I paid $50 each for these things brand new. So there is $500 worth of stuff here. Anyone interested can email me offlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

http://www.pacwireless.com/products/PA24_Data_Sheet.pdf 

 

Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

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Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

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Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread JohnnyO




Hey Kurt - Fix your date / time ! ! ! !

On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 18:45 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db radio’s and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I am thinking about using a pair of Tranzeo TR-5a-24f for a 5 mile link but I am skeptical about the low power.

 

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Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

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Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers

2006-02-22 Thread JohnnyO




I'm the one who turned Rick and many others onto these Marlon - We've been using them for almost 3yrs. We have had 1 truck roll due to a bad crimp in this amount of time. Yes they are expensive if you look at it on a per crimp basis - but what is $1.10 per install worth to you in time / frustration / a professional crimp ?

I buy these in bulk in lots of 10,000 at a time. If anyone wants to purchase some ends for these I can prob save you $15.00 per 300pack and $10.00 on the tool.

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 12:22 -0500, Rick Smith wrote:


they're EZ RJ45 crimpers / ends.  and yeah, they're around 50 - 70 cents PER CONNECTOR.

BUT I'll tell you whatsince I bought them, I've NEVER remade a cable, NOR have I
had to use a cable tester...

I won't go back now... actually feel helpless to borrow someone else's crimpers / ends


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> That's it.  Thanks!
> 
> Do you really pay $.60 per connector???  Maybe it's not as nice of a 
> tool as I thought
> 
> laters,
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Aubrey Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
> 
> 
>> http://www.happcontrols.com/electrical_supplies/92060900.htm
>>
>> ---
>> Aubrey Wells
>> One Ring Networks
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> o: (404) 601.1407
>> f: (404) 601.1408
>> c: (770) 356.9767
>>
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a crimper I saw someone talk about.  It uses special 
>>> rj45 connectors that allow the cable to go through the end.  Then the 
>>> crimper crimps and cuts to length at the same time.
>>>
>>> Anyone know what it's called and where to get the connectors and the 
>>> crimper?
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> Marlon
>>> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>>> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
>>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers

2006-02-22 Thread JohnnyO




Kurt is slowly proving himself as an idiot on this list. Kurt - GROW UP - You don't always have to be the person to "one up" everyone.

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 13:54 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


EZ is not for speed.  It's for doing the job right.  One service call 
because of your "fast" crimp and all the speed for years of  "fast" 
crimping is lost.

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

>I can crimp a regular rj45 connector faster than you can crimp your EZ
>ones. If you know what you are doing you have no problem crimping one.
>
>Kurt Fankhauser
>WAVELINC
>114 S. Walnut St.
>Bucyrus, OH 44820
>419-562-6405
>www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
>Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:26 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
>
>What is your time worth?
>
>-Matt
>
>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>
>  
>
>>That's it.  Thanks!
>>
>>Do you really pay $.60 per connector???  Maybe it's not as nice of a 
>>tool as I thought
>>
>>laters,
>>Marlon
>>(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own
>>
>>
>wisp!
>  
>
>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - From: "Aubrey Wells" 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:14 AM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>http://www.happcontrols.com/electrical_supplies/92060900.htm
>>>
>>>---
>>>Aubrey Wells
>>>One Ring Networks
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>o: (404) 601.1407
>>>f: (404) 601.1408
>>>c: (770) 356.9767
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking for a crimper I saw someone talk about.  It uses special
>>>>
>>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>rj45 connectors that allow the cable to go through the end.  Then 
>>>>the crimper crimps and cuts to length at the same time.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone know what it's called and where to get the connectors and the
>>>>
>>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>crimper?
>>>>
>>>>thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Marlon
>>>>(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>>>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
>>>>wisp!
>>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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[WISPA] Wireless Internet - Longview Texas - Request

2006-02-22 Thread JohnnyO




Anyone covering this area - contact me offlist - have a business account for you.

JohnnyO


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Re: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread JohnnyO




Is this a residential customer ? Is it worth the bad advertising on your part to pursue it ? What were their reasons for cancelling ? We don't even have a contract in place any longer. We have a TOS and an acceptable use policy in place but no need to waste our time with the extra paperwork for useless contracts.

If you provide a high level of service and treat your customers right, why would they leave ? If it's for price - tell them good luck - Chances are they will be back if they are "service" oriented and not "price" driven.

JohnnyO

On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 11:41 -0600, Jory Privett wrote:


I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract?  If 
someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their 
contract?  Any Ideas or suggestions?

Jory Privett
WCCS






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RE: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread JohnnyO




Hey Kurt - Fix your date and time - Several people have mentioned this already. Be a considerate list participant.

JohnnyO

On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 13:38 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:


Judge Judy

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

Jory,

To me, it depends on a few things...

	1. Do you have a written contract that has a term commitment and
the cancellation fees clearly stated?
	2. If you do, is it amount worth pursuing for collections based
on the risk, money and time you will spend?
	3. If you do pursue, and win, is the customer capable of paying
the judgment?

I have been successful in enforcing a number of my contracts through
small claims court.

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jory Privett
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract?
If 
someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their 
contract?  Any Ideas or suggestions?

Jory Privett
WCCS


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Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-25 Thread JohnnyO




Hey John Thomas -Were you the hall monitor in school ? Did you take names for the teacher when she walked out of the classroom ?

JohnnyO

On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:04 +, John J. Thomas wrote:


There has been so much talk about this, I might be inclined to help the FCC find those WISPs that are snubbing their noses at the law. This is a professional list and those here should be abiding by the law. I wonder if it would be a good thing to "kick out" those that promote illegal activities?

Whether you like it or not, WISPs will eventually be taxed- I guarantee the ILECs will see to that. If the FCC wants you, they will eventually find you.

John Thomas


>-Original Message-
>From: Frank Muto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 06:20 PM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
>
>http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.pdf
>
>
>20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477?
>
>Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject 
>to the
>
>enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable 
>law. In
>
>particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of 
>the
>
>Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture.
>
>
>
>
>
>Frank Muto
>Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
>Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
>http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>; "Marlon Schafer 
>(509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st
>
>
>> OK...OK.
>>
>> I agree that all should probably file.  I have several partners so I am 
>> not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my 
>> WISP entity.
>>
>> BUT...What is the penalty for not filing  Does anyone know???  Can 
>> we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? 
>> Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram??  Do they not send me a xmas card 
>> next year??  What???
>>
>> It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. 
>> Either way I think the membership should know.
>>
>> Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts.
>>
>> -B-
>>
>> -- 
>> Bob Moldashel
>> Lakeland Communications, Inc.
>> Broadband Deployment Group
>> 1350 Lincoln Avenue
>> Holbrook, New York 11741 USA
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Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-25 Thread JohnnyO




I 2nd that one Bob ! - Noone likes a lil tattle tale - I think John Thomas just let his alligator mouth overload his mockinbird butt on this one. Definitely lost my respect.

JohnnyO

On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 18:49 -0500, Bob Moldashel wrote:


John J. Thomas wrote:

>There has been so much talk about this, I might be inclined to help the FCC find those WISPs that are snubbing their noses at the law. This is a professional list and those here should be abiding by the law. I wonder if it would be a good thing to "kick out" those that promote illegal activities?
>
>Whether you like it or not, WISPs will eventually be taxed- I guarantee the ILECs will see to that. If the FCC wants you, they will eventually find you.
>
>John Thomas
>
>
>  
>
Dude,

No one likes a snitch...

Your energy would be better spent working on your website...Don't cha' 
think

-B-

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Re: [WISPA] Pigtails..... and 5.8GHz low power....

2006-02-27 Thread JohnnyO




Roger Peters - [EMAIL PROTECTED]  210-601-7727  - You can call him anytime - he'll answer your call even if he's in the shower ! God he sings horribly ! 

JohnnyO

On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 14:50 -0500, Blair Davis wrote:


After discovering a >5db variance in the pigtails I have when tested at 
5.8GHz, I am looking for a source of pigtails that are 100% tested and 
certified at 5.8GHz.

I need mmcx to N-Female and u.fl to N-Female.  6-12 inch lengths will be 
fine. 

Any recommendations?

PS:  This pigtail problem is why my further report on 5.8GHz performance 
is being delayed..

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik MUM - whose going?

2006-03-01 Thread JohnnyO




oh jeez - there goes the neighborhood - Someone call ahead to the Texas Rangers to let them know ! 

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:04 -0500, Carl A Jeptha wrote:


If none of your other deserving Katrina assistants wants one I'll take one.

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Mac Dearman wrote:
> Mikrotik is holding their first ever U.S. MUM (MikroTik Users 
> Meeting)  in Dallas, TX, May 4-5th, 2006. There will also be a 
> training class scheduled for the three days prior to MUM.
>
>  I have a few free passes due to Katrina work  - -  any takers?
>
>
> More info here:
> http://mum.mikrotik.com/
>
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services 
> --SomeObservations
>
>
>> Quote:  "> IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN "JUST" TECHNOLOGY... "
>>
>> yes, it is.   More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's 
>> needs or
>> wants.
>>
>> Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely
>> discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place.
>>
>> I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the 
>> customer and
>> do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely  
>> bulk
>> buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute
>> account that costs me 25 bucks a month.  They can buy Packet8 for 
>> less than
>> most resell deals.
>>
>> I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move
>> from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable 
>> for me
>> to do.   Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find.
>> Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to build a whole VOIP 
>> system
>> for my customers use) or as higher than retail priced "wholesale" 
>> programs.
>>
>> What I really need, then, is someone who does more of the backend stuff
>> (including providing e911)  but does so in mass quantity, and doesn't
>> "touch" my customer.
>>
>> I've also found that pc service can be a good side venture, but I'm not
>> convinced that we can actually compete on price with the computer 
>> store. If
>> we're busy, it's better value for our time to install and support our 
>> own
>> services.
>>
>> Just random thoughts on the topic...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
>> personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
>> sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
>> Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>>  
>>
>> -
>> - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com>
>> Cc: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- 
>> SomeObservations
>>
>>
>>> Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of
>> "what's
>>> the best radio" or "who's got those cool blue lights" -- however, FWIW,
>> I've
>>> noticed that there seldom is any debate on "useful" topics like sales &
>>> marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt
>> wireless)
>>>
>>> Do we call it wDSL? Wireless? More than Wifi? WiMAX? -- who knows? But
>> fuel
>>> the fire with a few observations
>>>
>>> -
>>> 
>>> -
>>>
>>> ARPU is an acronym for the Average Revenue per User.  This is the 
>>> average
>>> revenue factored across all customers as if each were charged the same
>> price
>>> -- with some customers charged less and o

[WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-03 Thread JohnnyO




I am looking for a appliance/device that will work as a VoIP Gateway/PBX for 4-8 POTS lines. I am not looking for an Asterisk solution but seeking out a plug and play appliance for under $2k or less.

I cannot get a PRI in my area - I cannot get a ISDN BRI in my area either - The only option I have is POTS lines which I can get for $23.00/mo each. 

I must have local services due to this being on a shipping channel and 911 is very critical.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

JohnnyO


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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-03 Thread JohnnyO




Mac - you can't provide it either  Please let me know if you can...

337-774   

Let me know if you can provide local to me service - Also - will you sell me unlimited plans ? I'd be willing to pay $50.00/mo for unlimited useage. They only use about 9000-12000 LOCAL minutes per month....

JohnnyO

On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 19:08 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:

 


Just send me a connection fee and I will take care of the rest of it  :-)


 


How many lines, whats the area code and how fast do you need them? With 911 of course.


 


 


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4228
318.303.4229


 


 


 



 



- Original Message - 




From: JohnnyO 




To: WISPA General List 




Cc: Judd's List 




Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:01 PM




Subject: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance










I am looking for a appliance/device that will work as a VoIP Gateway/PBX for 4-8 POTS lines. I am not looking for an Asterisk solution but seeking out a plug and play appliance for under $2k or less.

I cannot get a PRI in my area - I cannot get a ISDN BRI in my area either - The only option I have is POTS lines which I can get for $23.00/mo each. 

I must have local services due to this being on a shipping channel and 911 is very critical.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    
JohnnyO 





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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-04 Thread JohnnyO




Mac - as I stated - None of these #s are local. Which means their office 7 miles away would have to dial long distance to get their location in the same 337-774 - FYI - we still have 7 digit dialing in our area.

This is not just a matter of setting up VoIP - this customer has specific needs and I have to fill them. We're rolling out a beta for them at one of their small locations and if all goes well - I will be able to capture all of their locations - They employ 100+ people and currently have a total of 64 lines combined across all of their locations.

JohnnyO

On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 19:20 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:

 


The Hell you say I can't!    


 


 


Pick your towns and get the check book out  - $50.00 per number and start talking!!! This includes unlimited long distance as well as local calls - - -with all the whistles and bells - bar none!


 


 


337 Crowley LA 


337 De Ridder LA 


337 Lafayette LA


337 Lawtell LA 


337 Leesville LA 


337 Lake Charles LA 


337 New Iberia LA 


337 Opelousas LA 


337 St Martinville LA 


337 Sulphur LA 


337 Vinton LA 


337 Youngsville LA


 


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4228
318.303.4229


 


 


 



 



- Original Message - 




From: JohnnyO 




To: Mac Dearman 




Cc: WISPA General List 




Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:59 PM




Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance










Mac - you can't provide it either  Please let me know if you can...

337-774   

Let me know if you can provide local to me service - Also - will you sell me unlimited plans ? I'd be willing to pay $50.00/mo for unlimited useage. They only use about 9000-12000 LOCAL minutes per month....

JohnnyO

On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 19:08 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:

 
Just send me a connection fee and I will take care of the rest of it  :-) 
How many lines, whats the area code and how fast do you need them? With 911 of course. 
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
318.303.4228
318.303.4229 

  

- Original Message - 
        From: JohnnyO 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: Judd's List 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:01 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance 


I am looking for a appliance/device that will work as a VoIP Gateway/PBX for 4-8 POTS lines. I am not looking for an Asterisk solution but seeking out a plug and play appliance for under $2k or less.

I cannot get a PRI in my area - I cannot get a ISDN BRI in my area either - The only option I have is POTS lines which I can get for $23.00/mo each. 

I must have local services due to this being on a shipping channel and 911 is very critical.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-04 Thread JohnnyO




Ok - 

#1 - This customer has had the same phone # at this location for 20+ years - They do over 17million per year in volume out of this location. It's a fuel dock. They rely heavily on inbound calls for generating this. 

#2 - The customer will not change their phone # - This is NOT an option

#3 - This company does a total of 90+ million / year in revenue and as their internet provider - I will not chance losing their accounts.

#4 - I think it's absolutely stupid and a waste of time for them to have to dial 337-774- to be able to call the same number by dialing 774-. I know that this can be worked around with the dialing features.

I have no issues with an asterisk solution - I have the equipment on-hand and am currently working with Butch Evans to get this setup. At this point in time - The only thing I can do is to bring in POTS lines to make this work so we can terminate their phone #s at our office.

I am looking for an out of the box appliance that will do this as well. I have other clients wanting to come onboard for the hosted PBX aspects and VoIP advantages also.

JohnnyO

On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 00:07 -0600, Joe Laura wrote:

 


Johnny, Im a little confused as to why you do not think this is doable. Send me the specific needs for the client and I think we can make this happen. You do have wireless to all of these clients right? BTW, What do you have against an Asterisk solution? 


Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com



- Original Message - 




From: JohnnyO 




To: Mac Dearman 




Cc: WISPA General List 




Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:45 PM




Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance










Mac - as I stated - None of these #s are local. Which means their office 7 miles away would have to dial long distance to get their location in the same 337-774 - FYI - we still have 7 digit dialing in our area.

This is not just a matter of setting up VoIP - this customer has specific needs and I have to fill them. We're rolling out a beta for them at one of their small locations and if all goes well - I will be able to capture all of their locations - They employ 100+ people and currently have a total of 64 lines combined across all of their locations.
    
JohnnyO

On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 19:20 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:

 
The Hell you say I can't!    
Pick your towns and get the check book out  - $50.00 per number and start talking!!! This includes unlimited long distance as well as local calls - - -with all the whistles and bells - bar none! 
337 Crowley LA 
337 De Ridder LA 
337 Lafayette LA 
337 Lawtell LA 
337 Leesville LA 
337 Lake Charles LA 
337 New Iberia LA 
337 Opelousas LA 
337 St Martinville LA 
337 Sulphur LA 
337 Vinton LA 
337 Youngsville LA 
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
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318.728.8600 
318.303.4228
318.303.4229 

  

- Original Message - 
        From: JohnnyO 
To: Mac Dearman 
Cc: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:59 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance 


Mac - you can't provide it either  Please let me know if you can...

337-774   

Let me know if you can provide local to me service - Also - will you sell me unlimited plans ? I'd be willing to pay $50.00/mo for unlimited useage. They only use about 9000-12000 LOCAL minutes per month
        
JohnnyO

On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 19:08 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:

 
Just send me a connection fee and I will take care of the rest of it  :-) 
How many lines, whats the area code and how fast do you need them? With 911 of course. 
Mac Dearman
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MikroTik RouterOS Certified
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Rayville, La.
318.728.8600 
  

Re: [WISPA] How is this for a wireless discription?

2006-03-05 Thread JohnnyO




H - personally I don't like it but the end users may love it. Looks like someone spent a great deal of time on this and I commend them for that. Unfortunately - here the people would look at that picture and get confused and baffled and then we'd end up with double the questions during our explanation ! 

JohnnyO

On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 17:35 -0600, Victoria wrote:


 
http://www.stlbroadband.com/How_It_Works.htm

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[WISPA] Motorola StarPoint 6000

2006-03-06 Thread JohnnyO




I've aquired 24-26 full racks of Motorola Starpoint equipment - Does anyone know of who may be using this. Someone mentioned they are using this equipment in Africa ??

Any suggestions are welcome 

JohnnyO




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Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread JohnnyO




I appreciate Rick for what he does - with that being said - I do not feel there was anything wrong with Alex's post. I for one would like to hear everyone's opinion on the topic before u "nipping" this one Matt. Below you stated YOUR opinion. You also kinda went to extremes by bringing up Amway What Alex has brought up could be a huge $$ generator and a good fit for some WISPs/ISPs. Alex never went into graphic details only generalizations.

I guess all of this noise caused by the "nipping" as you say it is more suited for public view ? h

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 09:20 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:


I for one would prefer that we maintain some semblance of focus on our 
core focus as an organization (promoting and improving the wireless 
industry).  I could sell Amway and consider that to be an additional 
revenue stream for my WISP, but having me ramble on about that is the 
last thing anyone here should have to be subjected to.

The last thing we need on this list is more noise to drown our our 
signal, whether that noise is discussion that is relatively unrelated to 
the wireless industry (like the original post) or plain old "I don't 
like this or that so I'm leaving" drama. 

Thanks for nipping this one Rick.   Keep up the good work.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

>I am leaving WISPA too, this list has been going downhill for a while
>and this NAZI tactic monitoring is starting to become annoying.
>
>Kurt Fankhauser
>WAVELINC
>114 S. Walnut St.
>Bucyrus, OH 44820
>419-562-6405
>www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
>Behalf Of Alex Huppenthal
>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:56 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*
>
>my apologies to the members of the list if they found it offensive.  
>Reality is we need to consider content rules as much as need to  
>consider VoIP gateways.
>since you've arbitrarily decided its not 'proper content' based on  
>your view, I've decided to drop my involvement in WISPA.  bye
>
>
>
>On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Alex,
>>
>>Please take this offlist.  This is not proper content for  
>>discussion on the
>>Wispa list servs.
>>
>>Respectfully,
>>
>>Rick Harnish
>>President
>>Supernova Technologies, Inc.
>>260-827-2482 Office
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Founding Member of WISPA
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
>>Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: [WISPA] New revenue stream
>>
>>I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would
>>be okay to deploy on the network.
>>
>>They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus
>>additional fees for high load times.
>>
>>When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they  
>>aren't
>>in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.
>>
>>Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of
>>liability exists..
>>
>>It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew  
>>says
>>they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.
>>
>>Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are
>>doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom  
>>line. I
>>don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself  -
>>answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.
>>
>>Any experience with this?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

2006-03-08 Thread JohnnyO




I agree with you on the part about Rick - although i've never met him eye to eye - i've shared a lot of time in conversation with him. He has a tough job on his shoulders being a moderator. Lord knows he's definitely earned his $$ worth out of having to moderate me - oh wait - he's not paid ! - There you go guys - unfortunately Rick has to make decisions that will probobaly tick a lot of us off. I personally didn't see anything wrong with Alex's post though ! 

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 10:29 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:

Well - - all of you know I have an opinion thats not always humble, but I will share it all the same.


 


IMO - - I dont see a thing wrong with hosting such material IF thats what you want to do, but I must confess that discussing such hosting material on a WISPA list is not exactly kosher as we are trying to accomplish some rather extroidinary things with the Gov't. Such topics can not be helpful in these matters and thus - I agree with Brother Harnish's asking that particular topic go else where as it "may" stand the opportunity at a later date to be considered less than professional and detrimental to what we are trying accomplish. It is in a totally different ball field than any other "off topic" discussions that we have here from time to time. I would also hate to be meeting with Gov't officailas and one of tem ask me - - - so how is that porn service running for you? :-)


 


 I also have an opinion for those of you who took such deep offense at Ricks comments - - - If you know Harnish then you know he had put thought into the matter before he asked the discussion be discontinued on list. He has never been a list "nazi" and such comments are offending and hurtful. I really think most of us (me included) ought to put a little more thought into what we are typing and re-read it before we hit send :-)


 


Later Gators,


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- Original Message - 




From: Rick Harnish 




To: 'WISPA General List' 




Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:30 PM




Subject: [WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism










To All,

 

I took over the moderation of the wireless@wispa.org list about a year and one half ago.  The previous moderator handed over the reigns for a variety of reasons but many of which were criticisms about how he did his job and the personal stress involved.  I have received the same criticisms and have let them hit my thick skin as gracefully as I could.  

 

This position is not a fun one, I need to try and keep up with about 5 WISPA listservs as well as other duties for 50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists.  Tonight, I was about 75 messages behind when I found time to catch up.  Alex’s post with the title, “New Revenue Stream” was one of the newest messages when I checked.  I will admit, I wasn’t in the best mood when I read it.  Knowing that this list is publicly monitored, I really did not feel it was the proper place to discuss hosting pornography and describing how profitable it could be.  I try to be pretty liberal in my moderation duties, but I felt this one stepped over the line.  Several of you feel I was in error.  Possibly.

 

I have received a few complaints about my decision.  This decision to moderate in no way harbored ill thoughts towards Alex Huppenthal.  I would have responded the same way on that thread for any poster.  I am disappointed he took my action so deeply to heart.  Normally, I would not let a few complaints bother me, but in this case I am choosing to respond.  While I stand by my decision that this was not proper content for this list, I will allow the thread to continue if the members feel it is important.  If you feel I was in error, feel free to contact me offlist. 

 

 

Respectfully,

 





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OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

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Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread JohnnyO




Blair brings up a very valid point

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 11:45 -0500, Blair Davis wrote:


If you consider the original post by Alex Huppenthal as being outside 
'our core focus as an organization (promoting and improving the wireless 
industry)",  then the  entire Adzilla thread is out of line.

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> I for one would prefer that we maintain some semblance of focus on our 
> core focus as an organization (promoting and improving the wireless 
> industry).  I could sell Amway and consider that to be an additional 
> revenue stream for my WISP, but having me ramble on about that is the 
> last thing anyone here should have to be subjected to.
>
> The last thing we need on this list is more noise to drown our our 
> signal, whether that noise is discussion that is relatively unrelated 
> to the wireless industry (like the original post) or plain old "I 
> don't like this or that so I'm leaving" drama.
> Thanks for nipping this one Rick.   Keep up the good work.
>
> Matt Larsen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> I am leaving WISPA too, this list has been going downhill for a while
>> and this NAZI tactic monitoring is starting to become annoying.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> 114 S. Walnut St.
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
>> Behalf Of Alex Huppenthal
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:56 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*
>>
>> my apologies to the members of the list if they found it offensive.  
>> Reality is we need to consider content rules as much as need to  
>> consider VoIP gateways.
>> since you've arbitrarily decided its not 'proper content' based on  
>> your view, I've decided to drop my involvement in WISPA.  bye
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> Please take this offlist.  This is not proper content for  
>>> discussion on the
>>> Wispa list servs.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Rick Harnish
>>> President
>>> Supernova Technologies, Inc.
>>> 260-827-2482 Office
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Founding Member of WISPA
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
>>> Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] New revenue stream
>>>
>>> I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would
>>> be okay to deploy on the network.
>>>
>>> They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus
>>> additional fees for high load times.
>>>
>>> When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they  
>>> aren't
>>> in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.
>>>
>>> Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of
>>> liability exists..
>>>
>>> It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew  
>>> says
>>> they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.
>>>
>>> Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are
>>> doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom  
>>> line. I
>>> don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself  -
>>> answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.
>>>
>>> Any experience with this?
>>>
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RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-08 Thread JohnnyO




Bummer - Many of us will miss you dearly Kurt. Good luck and god speed ! 

JohnnyO

On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 10:46 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:


I am leaving WISPA too, this list has been going downhill for a while
and this NAZI tactic monitoring is starting to become annoying.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Alex Huppenthal
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

my apologies to the members of the list if they found it offensive.  
Reality is we need to consider content rules as much as need to  
consider VoIP gateways.
since you've arbitrarily decided its not 'proper content' based on  
your view, I've decided to drop my involvement in WISPA.  bye



On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Please take this offlist.  This is not proper content for  
> discussion on the
> Wispa list servs.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rick Harnish
> President
> Supernova Technologies, Inc.
> 260-827-2482 Office
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Founding Member of WISPA
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] New revenue stream
>
> I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would
> be okay to deploy on the network.
>
> They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus
> additional fees for high load times.
>
> When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they  
> aren't
> in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.
>
> Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of
> liability exists..
>
> It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew  
> says
> they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.
>
> Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are
> doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom  
> line. I
> don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself  -
> answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.
>
> Any experience with this?
>
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[WISPA] Needing Service North of Hammond

2006-03-22 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Needing Service North of Hammond






Name  = Tareah  Mizell

Company   = Webmedx

Email = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Address   = 21074 Firetower Road

Address2  =

City, State   Zip = Loranger, LA   70446

Home Phone    = 985-878-6643

Mobile Phone  = 985-974-3135

Fax   =

URL   =

Interested In = Residential Connection




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RE: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas Needed

2006-04-07 Thread JohnnyO
> I'm shooting at offering 1.5 Mbps service at around $24.95 and
> offering VOIP for another $24.95 if they so choose.  So the 
> competition hasn't a chance against me if I can get around that $350 
> CPE cost.
>  

IMNSHO - If you are trying to "compete" you will fall on your face in a
heartbeat. We charge more then the competition and we do so for a
reason. Our installs start at $250 for a 'basic' install. Our monthly
rates are atleast $10-$15/more then the DSL or Cable offerings in our
area. We avoid the bottom feeders this way. We could double or triple
our subscriber count within 12mos if we would drop down $15/mo for our
service but I refuse to do that. "Volume" of low end subscribers becomes
a very costly support decision.

I refuse to compete on pricing - we are local - we hire local people -
we donate and support the local sports teams / associations. We shake
our subscribers hands in the stores / at gas pumps / baseball games. We
pump $$ into the local business's for our supplies, materials. 

$24.95/mo - If I were you - I would SERIOUSLY rethink your business
model. Oh - we also don't have contracts - We do have a TOS, but have
found there is really no reason to get subscribers to committ. If we do
our job - they will stay - if we fail to support them as we've promised
- they will bail. Kinda helps keep us on our toes :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pete Davis
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas Needed


Joshua M. Andrews wrote:
> Cliff:
>  
> Thank you for the information.  The areas of DSL are very spotty and
> cable is very inexpensive and unreliable.  Many people are upset at 
> both situations.  DSL is offered for about $30 per month with purchase

> of a DSL "modem" at around $50 or so and a 1 year contract is 
> required.  Cable service rents you the modem for $10 per month and 
> charges $40 per month for service on top of that ($50 per month total 
> for those of you out there in other posts that think half-duplex is as

> good a full-duplex).
>  
> I'm shooting at offering 1.5 Mbps service at around $24.95 and
> offering VOIP for another $24.95 if they so choose.  So the 
> competition hasn't a chance against me if I can get around that $350 
> CPE cost.
>  
> --
>
> Pete:
>  
> Thank you for the detailed response.  I appreciate you taking the time
> to comment.  I don't want to be rude but I took a look at your website

> and it needs some work. :(
> In any case, I think you have a point.  Could you elaborate more on 
> what you meant by going with a 802.11b AP/CPE.  Do you mean you are 
> shooting a signal out to an area using WaveRider and then distributing

> it via another 802.11b AP from there?  I think your right about 
> contracts and install fees and it sounds like your saying that I'm 
> just going to have to eat the cost and extend my ROI per user.  Thanks

> again.
>   
900Mhz client to 802.11b AP to 802.11b client is one scenario, but I 
would also put 802.11b APs on the main tower. If you put up a $300 AP 
and 5 $150 CPE, you will be doing better ($220 average customer 
equipment cost) than a purely Waverider network. You should be able to 
do better than 5 clients per AP.

Yes my website needs work, but we always have more installs that we 
possibly have time to get to. When we get caught up on installs, we will

revamp the website to bring more in.

I wouldn't count on giving 1.5M to every customer on your network over 
Waverider. I have played with every GOS setting I can come up with, and 
cannot MAINTAIN over 1Mbps connectivity to multiple clients.

I would also consider the thought that you don't have to be the cheapest

ISP in town to be the busiest or the best.. Its gonna take a LOT more 
$25/mo clients to get traction than at $40 or $50/mo. I wouldn't install

any customer who will take 12 months to get CFP (cash flow positive, 
paying for CPE and installation costs). Not starting out, anyway, unless

I was DESPERATE to get market share. Desperation is almost never a good 
position to be in.
I get $39/mo for residential service and $59/$99 for business service. 
DSL is cheaper, and in one area, Cablemodem is cheaper. We still stay 
busy with new customers, and we don't put in a new tower until the last 
tower is CFP. More money coming in the door than going out is a big part

(only part?) for successful business. ISP business is no exception. When

you run out of money, you are out of business.
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RE: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas Needed

2006-04-08 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message




> $899 including a 70ft 
bracketed tower. 
 
Sorry 
Blair, but I am with Tom on this one. There is no such thing as a $899.00 
"bracketed" tower that is installed properly. There are no small towers out 
there rated at 70ft "bracketed" to anything. You need at minimum 1yd of concrete 
for a Rohn25 40ft FreeStanding tower that is bracketed to the side of the 
house.. l
 
$5500.00 for a freestanding tower ? ? ? ?  Are you talking about 
just the steel ? What about base foundation ? cement ? labor 
?
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Tom DeReggiSent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:55 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Re: CPE 
  Cost Ideas Needed
  >$59.95 per month small business, no contrac
   
  I'm not sure how that is a good thing. 
  Risk with no contract, and no margin to justify the 
  risk. 
  If its a retail place with 1 or 2 computers we 
  got a asyncronis plan for $99, but won't pick up the phone for less than 
  $150.
   
   
  That I want to see. Whats the breakdown of your 
  budget for it? And time for errection?
   
   
  Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless 
  Broadband
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Blair Davis 

To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:20 
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: CPE Cost Ideas 
Needed
I have to agree with Mark here.  We are using the same 
model he is and we have more work than we know what to do 
with$39.95 per month home, no contract /  $59.95 per month 
small business, no contract /  Higher rates for special services and/or 
special QoS, contract requiredInstalls start at $199 and range to 
$899 including a 70ft bracketed tower.  Special cases go higher One 
subdivision just approved $5500 for a freestanding tower to serve their 30 
homes in a small valley.  We own all radio equipment.We clear 
our equipment and supplies cost for any new install from the install 
fee.  Sometimes, when we 'recycle' a radio, we even make money on an 
install, but we don't plan on it.  The labor part of the install is 
covered by the first month or so's fees.We allow self install if the 
customer buys his own equipment.  No setup charges for self install but 
unit must be approved prior to install and must meet our snr 
requirements.We no longer try to compete head-to-head with the cable 
or telephone companies.  They can have the $15 per month bottom 
feeders.  There is way too much churn in those markets for 
us.Another thing that helps us is that we are more than an 
ISP.  We are a full service computer shop as well.  When our 
customer calls in with a problem, and the radio gear checks out, we don't 
pass them off as a problem in your computer, we hand the call to our 
computer tech who can usually diagnose the problem over the phone.  If 
we go out and the problem is in the computer, not our radio equipment, we 
waive the service call charge if the customer has our shop fix the computer, 
and we will pick it up for free since we are there.We credit a new 
customers first months service charge as a discount to the referring 
customer.  We started out getting 4-5 calls a month for new 
service.  We now get 5-7 a WEEK.  All word of mouth.  Make 
friends with the real estate agents.  Give them flyers to give to their 
clients.  Work hard to get the local, small businesses as 
clients.  They will give you all the free, word of mouth advertising 
you can use.  They will also let pass out your flyers to their 
customersIt works for us  We now offer service anywhere 
in our county.  We built our network with our own private funds.  
No government handouts.  We are profitable, and have less than $10K in 
debt.  We will retire that debt this 
year.Mark Nash wrote:
Doesn't it depend on your customer base?  Did we hear that this is a small
town?  Your way of doing things is like mine.  Show value and provide a good
service and you will have very little churn in your customers.  There are a
number of small towns (1k-4k population) that I service, but once we went
into the larger town (200k), we would have to give it away, longer ROI on
the CPE, lower margin, etc.  And the customers are more snobby when they are
used to being overserved by the larger companies (telco & cable).

Being a small company, I have found that our initial focus is the best for
us: small towns & rural area.  We have a nice valley that
(topographically-speaking) supports this well.  We are members of the
chambers of commerce, our kids have played sports together, see each other
in the grocery store, etc.  I have even gone so far as to work with the
loc

RE: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

2006-04-10 Thread JohnnyO
WTF!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?


I'll give you that, but when someone responds to my query for input with
a "forget them, we do it better / cheaper and there's no reason for any
other call centers", I take offense..

Ah well, that's business, but I sure would've liked this thread to be a
little more conversational...

R


Rick Harnish wrote:
> Rick,
> 
> Please take no offense to this reply.  I haven't really been following

> this thread until your last one and I read it because I enjoy reading 
> your posts.
> 
> I reviewed your first post and the thread that followed.  You did ask 
> for input in your first post.
> 
> "Any input ?"
> 
> We do live in a free market economy and if someone is already doing 
> this cheaper than what your business plan is set for, is it totally 
> wrong for them to point it out?  Does that mean that you can't "do it 
> better" at a higher price?  As pointed out in other threads recently, 
> cheaper is not normally better.  If you are looking at a new business 
> venture, your research should generate an awareness of what other 
> businesses are charging and what kind of service that price includes.

> If you think you can go head to head and garner a market niche of 
> WISPs as a WISPA member, then I think you should give it a whirl.  As 
> far as I know, Ron Johnson is not a paid WISPA member.  If I were to 
> choose a company as a wireless support center, I would definitely 
> weigh WISPA membership and experience heavily when making my decision.
> 
> Maybe I am reading Ron's post in a different light than you are but I 
> didn't really see any strong attack on your post.  He merely pointed 
> out that he is in the business to do this and he is cheaper.  That in 
> no way means the other members of this list are going to flock to him
for a solution.
> 
> I'm sure I will draw criticism from some whichever side of the fence I

> take here.  I think it is a good topic to discuss and for that reason,

> I will allow the thread to continue.  I personally will find it 
> interesting to know what it takes to run a call center.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482 Office
> 260-307-4000 Cell
> 260-918-4340 VoIP
> www.oibw.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>   
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Rick Smith
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?
> 
> Ya know Ron, that was uncalled for.
> 
> Wow, ripped apart on-list.  Great atmosphere for getting some feedback

> on a business idea.
> 
> Never again.
> 
> Hey Harnish, how about that ?   Argh.
> 
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Guys
>>
>> We have been support ISPs for over 10 years. Dialup, Cable, DSL, or 
>> wireless. Yes it can get complicated. But then again it is our 
>> business to know how to get the job done.
>>
>> Give me a call if we can help you with your Tech support and Customer

>> service calls
>>
>> O BTW we price ours at a much better rate that these guys you are 
>> talking about.
>>
>> Ron Johnson
>> President
>> National Support Center Inc.
>> 800-203-7961
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> On Behalf Of Mark Nash
>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 6:53 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?
>>
>> Google GTC tech support. They are reasonable.  Level 1 and level 2 
>> techs allow them to get their costs down.  If you have something 
>> specifically for wisps that would be more valuable.
>>
>> But there is a lot involved in doing this on. As a new customer of 
>> yours, I would expect you to familiarize your techs with my way of 
>> doing things so you can be useful for my customers when they call.
>>
>> My business partner owns a call center and we have looked at doing 
>> this a little without much interest in taking the plunge to do it.
>>
>> GTC had a hefty startup fee (I think it was $5k) to have one of their

>> managers get familiar with my system and develop training for their 
>> L1 & L2 techs.  Then they took the number of subscribers we had and 
>> made the base monthly fee ($1 x # of subs).  That gives you (1 minute

>> x # of subs) of 'tech time' per month.  Any overage would be about 
>> $.60 per minute for that month.
>>
>> Not a bad deal.  I didn't feel that the diversity of my system lent 
>> itself well to a 3rd party tech support at the time, and since then 
>> everything I have chosen to deploy has had a consideration given to 
>> 'Call Center Tech Support'.  Whether we do the tech support or not, 
>> it is worth it to spend time and money to streamline tech support 
>> methods s

RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-19 Thread JohnnyO
We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
provided

We are currently unable to serve your request

We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
completed.

This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!


Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
google map for WISPS

please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...

thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
bob kim

GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-s
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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

2006-04-26 Thread JohnnyO
Robert - get in touch with me - I'll host your site for you free of
charge.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!


team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

"FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any
WISP."

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the 
> browser...
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>
> > same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the 
> > other "unable" page.
> >
> > JohnnyO wrote:
> >
> >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you 
> >> provided
> >>
> >> We are currently unable to serve your request
> >>
> >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be 
> >> completed.
> >>
> >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that

> >> you believe may have caused this error please report the problem 
> >> here.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim 
> >> Wireless Internet Advisor
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
> >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
> >> google map for WISPS
> >>
> >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
> >>
> >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new 
> >> design... bob kim
> >>
> >> GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-s
et.html
> >>
> >>
> >
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T, Akimbo To Offer VOD Over DSL

2006-05-01 Thread JohnnyO
Dawn - what do you mean by "Another low bandwidth application?"

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:41 PM
To: WISPA General List; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: [WISPA] AT&T, Akimbo To Offer VOD Over DSL


All,

I thought you might be interested in this article.

Another low bandwidth application?

http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/042806attakimbo/

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
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RE: [WISPA] (no subject)

2006-05-03 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Vaporware baby ! 
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Ron WallaceSent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:22 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org; 
  isp-wireless@isp-wireless.comSubject: [WISPA] (no 
  subject)
  To All,
   
  Any one know anthing about Navini Networks and 
  all their claims?  sounds too good to be true.
   
  Ron 
Wallace
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet 
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
d_1] 

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, 
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
<http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at 
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM

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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to
run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent
around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay.

How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the
"service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we
service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly
service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if
something goes south.

Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield
companies love to be catered to.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM
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Hey Johnny

Whats the speeds and latency up and down?
How much do you get to make on it?


Thanks
George

JohnnyO wrote:
> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
> capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

> we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
> 
> JohnnyO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
> 
> 
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
> service under its own brand.
> 
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
> an
> d_1] 
> 
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
> Alaska,
> Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
> part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
> that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and
speed.
> Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at 
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
> 

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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
Laura - if you can't beat the oilfield companies - CHARGE THE HELL OUT
OF THEM :) It eases the pain a bit.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


Since the latency is consistant have you tried running any voip over it?
Just curious. If so, how is it? I was wondering why the price of gas has
been skyrocketing in Louisiana lately. Guess they have to cover their
payments to you.LOL Joe Superior Wireless New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message -
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
> capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

> we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
>
>
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet 
> service under its own brand.
>
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
> an
> d_1]
>
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
> Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by 
> AT&T as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi 
> technology that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater 
> range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at 
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

2006-05-08 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



We 
don't bill the customer for "Internet Service" at all - We give the "access" 
away to them. WildBlue does have reseller / installer programs. What we charge 
is for a "response time" to handle their needs in the event something burns up / 
gets zapped / gets moved, etc.
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:58 PMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling 
  WildblueSo all the accounts are setup under your name and 
  then you just bill the customer whatever price?Do you know if they 
  have a reseller option or any information about 
  it?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to
run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent
around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay.

How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the
"service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we
service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly
service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if
something goes south.

Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield
companies love to be catered to.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


Hey Johnny

Whats the speeds and latency up and down?
How much do you get to make on it?


Thanks
George

JohnnyO wrote:
  
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / 
Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with 
them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase 
capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems

  
we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
service under its own brand.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb
an
d_1] 

The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in 
Alaska,
Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as 
part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology 
that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and
speed.
  
Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist 
 at 
5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM


  
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RE: [WISPA] WISP in 74553 OK ?

2006-05-09 Thread JohnnyO
Robert - your site is still slow as molasses ! Take me up on my offer
PLEASE ! 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:06 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] WISP in 74553 OK ?


anybody have a wisp in OK?
please contact curtis "curdean at yahoo.com"


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RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO

2006-05-10 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Roger 
Peters - 210-601-7727 I believe someone mentioned Jim 
Patient was carrying them also - www.jeffcosoho.com
 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Cliff LeboeufSent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:54 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Looking for 
  SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
  
  I am in need of the 
  following. Anyone out there care to help? :)
   
  Qty 2 - SR5-80211A  SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI 
  RADIO
   
  Please contact me 
  off-list.
   
  Thanks,
  Cliff
   
   
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RE: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet

2006-05-10 Thread JohnnyO
Do yourself a favor - Install 2 CB3s and bridge the 2 locations. I've
run into tons of headaches trying to use these devices. I'd doubt you'd
even need external antennas.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:02 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet


http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php

http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv

I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building on 
the property.  Distance is 6-700 feet.
I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices.
Any thoughts?

Brian

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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
Subaru Outback Wagons - You can NOT beat them for rough country / good
gas mileage / carrying capacity. They are AWD and 600k miles isn't
unheard of. The clearance under them is unbelievable.

They have High Output V4s or V6s - They are comfortable / quiet /
economic /powerful and will go anywhere that Cherokee you're talking
about will go Marlon :)

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD 
Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the 
space and the AWD makes all the difference.
the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and 
$45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting 
Dept.) with those figures. :-D

You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> I thought of that too.  But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still
> won't make up for the payment on the rig.
>
> I love these uses Taurus wagons.  I've had two of them go 230,000
> miles now with nothing major.  Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 
> or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil.
>
> Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long.  Usually for
> less than $8k too.  Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the 
> ladder on etc.  My only problem now is that I have too many towers up 
> in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the

> car all of the time on the rocks.  (I DO know that changing an oil pan

> in one runs $500!)
>
> I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig.  Probably a Cherokee or
> Durango.  Not sure yet.  I want a QUIET rig this time.  That's the 
> worst thing about the Taurus around here.  The roads are rough and the

> car is awful.
>
> laters,
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own
wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices
>
>
>> I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any
>> time soon.
>> So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles.
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Just got our $700 gas bill for last month.  That's just MY driving.
>>> No employees.  And I don't even drive an suv!
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge.  Kinda like what
>>> the concrete company did to me last  year at this time.
>>>
>>> What are people that have large spread out networks doing?
>>>
>>> If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal.  But if it
>>> kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) 
>>> this summer is gonna be ugly.
>>>
>>> thoughts?
>>> Marlon
>>> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>>> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own 
>>> wisp!
>>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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RE: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
Don't be beating up on my Yankee boy Rickster now Brad :)

JohnnyO

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:18 AM
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Gotcha!  No problem.  Just sent you a reply off list.

Thanks,

Brad

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Yeah sorry, been busy...i'll hit ya offlist. 

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:49 AM
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Hey Rick!

I've been trying to get in touch with you for the past several days on
the status of that order placed and paid for April 26th.  Can you give
me an update?

Thanks,

Brad



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Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:15 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet

Yeah, and look out if you're on the same electrical circuit as Where the
maid plugs in the vacuum. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Whigham
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet

Brian R.
I agree with the other two posts by Jack and JohnnyO.  They are nifty
devices.  I use the FD4070 Belkins (think that's the model).

But, I don't really think using these in commercial applications is a
good idea.  I have had problems with having to reset both devices
(primarily on the uplink end).  If you're not there to reset
(unplug/plug) them, it is a huge pain.  Saves $ but makes you look bad.

Plus, the links are generally only a meg or two with marginal links
(maybe less).  I tried to use them at home, to share internet with my
neighbor, and had issues about once a week, requiring a reset.  I'm in a
tri-plex and there is one unit between us.  Link quality depended on
what jack I used.  The best link was about 3.5Mbps (per the SNMP tool).

You probably can do more with the unused wire you mentioned.  But, how
much irritation/distrust will it incur when you have to walk the
customer through these issues over the phone.

Good thing is, it's easy to explain how to unplug and plug the device in
over the phone. :-)

Still, they're best as cheap solutions for homes and tight-fisted
lawyers.

Luck,
Brian W

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

> There is disconnected wire in the ground between the buildings that I
> could "wire up" however I need, but not if they only go 300 feet.
>
> Jack Unger wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> I haven't used Netgear but I used another brand (can't recall which
>> one) about 6 months ago and they were good for about 300 ft. Of
>> course, you have to be on the same electrical circuit. Dunno if your 
>> two buildings are on the same side of the same electrical box or not.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>jack
>>
>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php
>>>
>>> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php
>>>
>>> http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv
>>>
>>> I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building
>>> on the property.  Distance is 6-700 feet.
>>> I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices.
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>
>
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start
to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but
tis the easiest way I know how.

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:27 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Tom,

" You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer
it in."  

You don't need "the big ass Hammer"!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it
in again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the
way in and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you
already have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens
the ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-11 Thread JohnnyO
But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating "Good".

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


> You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

> neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
> protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
> it takes to incorporate.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> 
>> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.
>>


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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
Please don't tarnish my reputation by accusing me of having friends ! !
! ! ! ! ! :)

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating "Good".

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


> You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

> neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
> protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
> it takes to incorporate.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> 
>> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.
>>


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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you
though ! 

Cliff's nickname is "Scratchy" by the way ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices

I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating "Good".

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


> You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

> neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability 
> protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
> it takes to incorporate.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> 
>> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.
>>


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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
Cliff - I'll have to check my calendar. I forget when it was your wife
scheduled her next out of town trip *DOH* - They gonna spank us on this
list if you don't stop this kinda nonsense :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you
started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since
you shared with me!

When you going out of town again?

- Cliff


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM
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I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you
though ! 

Cliff's nickname is "Scratchy" by the way ! 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


Rick,
Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something!
- Cliff

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!
:P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
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But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
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I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating "Good".

Too much protection there not to do it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


> You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

> neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
> protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
> it takes to incorporate.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> 
>> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.
>>


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RE: [WISPA] more CRM

2006-05-12 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



A $120,000,000/yr company here just moved to a CRM packaged called 
SalesLogix ? They have been very happy with it. It's price point is very 
attractive and the flexibility seems to be there.
 
JohnnyO 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:03 
  AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] more 
  CRM
  
  Check out VTIGER it’s 
  a sql based php CRM
   
  
  Dan 
  MetcalfWireless Broadband Systemswww.wbisp.com781-566-2053 ext 
  6201
  1-888-wbsystem (888) 
  927-9783[EMAIL PROTECTED]support: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff BroadwickSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:52 
  AMTo: 'WISPA General 
  List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] 
  more CRM
   
  I'm not thrilled 
  with ACT either...but I'm so deep into it that changing would be a major 
  nightmare.  The newest versions have a sequel database that is a huge 
  resource hog.  I had to upgrade to a gig of RAM on my laptop to get any 
  kind of performance out of it.
   
  I "upgraded" 
  to the 2005 version and it had so many bugs that they finally said that 
  they were not going to update it anymore and you had to buy the 2006 
  version...nice work if you can get it.  The good news is that the 2006 
  version seems pretty stable...albeit with a number of flaky 
  "features".
  
   
  Jeff 
  BroadwickImageStream800-813-5123 x106 
  
   
   
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick SmithSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:45 
  AMTo: WISPA General 
  ListSubject: RE: [WISPA] 
  more CRM
   
  I looked at 
  installing Dynamics - I'm a biz partner, so I got all the stuff, and it still 
  didn't work.
   
  Not to mention being 
  a total pig.
   
  I hate ACT!, but it's 
  still one of the only things out there.
   
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan OliverSent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:11 
  AMTo: WISPA General 
  ListSubject: [WISPA] more 
  CRM
  speaking of ACT and crm .. anyone use MS 
  Business Contact Manager? Or Dynamics? the latter looks like overkill. also - 
  any favorite tricks for making calls from the CRM through softphones or 
  otherwise?
  
  On 5/12/06, Jeff Broadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  I've had a couple scares in the last few years, so I 
  back up ACT and severalother programs at least weekly.  It's not 
  that big of a deal...just have toremember to do 
it.
  Best,-- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC 
  
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[WISPA] RouterBoard 112s

2006-05-17 Thread JohnnyO
Title: RouterBoard 112s






Will the SR5s work in the Routerboard 112s ? Issues ? Good / bad / ugly ?


Regards,


JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s

2006-05-18 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Bueller ? .. Bueller ? . Anyone ?

  
  
  Will the SR5s work in the Routerboard 112s ? Issues 
  ? Good / bad / ugly ? 
  Regards, 
  JohnnyO -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  JohnnyOSent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:04 PMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] RouterBoard 
  112s
  Will the SR5s work in the Routerboard 112s ? Issues 
  ? Good / bad / ugly ? 
  Regards, 
  JohnnyO 
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RE: [WISPA] 4ft 5.8Ghz dual polarized grid

2006-05-18 Thread JohnnyO
Rick - original question was where to aquire them  Can you share ?
:)

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 4ft 5.8Ghz dual polarized grid


I just ordered 7 4' Dual Pol Andrews dishes.  They are rated at 34.9 db.
 
Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Founding Member of WISPA 


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4ft 5.8Ghz dual polarized grid

32-34dbi

-Matt

Blair Davis wrote:

> What kind of gain is that gonna have?
>
> Say maybe 40db?
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>
>> Anyone know where to find such a thing?
>>
>> -Matt
>
>
>
>

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[WISPA] SR5s and 36miles - INPUT NEEDED

2006-05-25 Thread JohnnyO
Title: SR5s and 36miles - INPUT NEEDED






I've run the path calcs with Radio Mobile and I should see low -70s using the SR5s in Mikrotik and 2ft dishes at 36miles.

My question is - how many people out there have links 35+ miles with SR5s / Mikrotik and 2ft Panels or dishes ? I have a link I need to have up as mission critical for a company prior to Saturday and all I have on-hand is 2ft PacWireless Dishes……….

Regards,


JohnnyO




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RE: [WISPA] SR5s and 36miles - INPUT NEEDED

2006-05-25 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Mike - 
what is the actual output of the SR5s you are seeing ? Or anyone else have exact 
figures - Should I be running my calculations using 21dbm or 26dbm as advertised 
?
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mike VarnerSent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:04 AMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] SR5s and 36miles - INPUT 
  NEEDED
  It may be difficult to provide a mission critical 
  link with 2-footers; but then again I am using CM-9's on a 17-mile 
  link.  I know this doesn't help you; but I just recently replaced my 
  PacWireless 2ft dishes with 2ft dual-polarity Radiowaves dishes and gained 4dB 
  on both ends.  Signal level is around -62dB.
   
  Mike
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
    JohnnyO 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:24 
AM
Subject: [WISPA] SR5s and 36miles - 
INPUT NEEDED

I've run the path calcs with Radio Mobile and I 
should see low -70s using the SR5s in Mikrotik and 2ft dishes at 
36miles.
My question is - how many people out there have 
links 35+ miles with SR5s / Mikrotik and 2ft Panels or dishes ? I have a 
link I need to have up as mission critical for a company prior to Saturday 
and all I have on-hand is 2ft PacWireless Dishes……….
    Regards, 
JohnnyO 



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RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread JohnnyO
David - I agree with you as well... I would consider this report / poll
to be bogus to the actual #s of "Fixed" Wireless subscribers. With that
being said, perhaps this mistake will work in our favor :) Or against us
:(

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:27 PM
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John Scrivner wrote:
> Check this out from the Pew report. It appears that fixed wireless is 
> much
> bigger than what even I thought. According to this report 8% of all
broadband 
> connections in the US are delivered via fixed broadband wireless.

Ouch. That study looks to be horribly methodologically flawed.

(It's at http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Broadband_trends2006.pdf if
you're interested.)

Their survey required the responders to know what they were talking
about -- if you have DSL, but a wireless router/access point, and you're
not all that technically competent, you may well say your laptop has
"wireless" Internet access when that's not quite what they intended.

Here's the question they asked:

> Does the computer you use at home connect to the internet through a 
> dial-up telephone line, or do you have some other type of connection, 
> such as a DSL-enabled phone line, a cable TV modem, a wireless 
> connection, or a T-1 or fiber optic connection?

That question gives me a headache, and I'd like to think I do know what
I'm talking about most of the time.

Note that their survey only had about 1500 Internet-using responders,
which is jst barely enough to be considered a statistically valid
sample for a population of a couple hundred million. (Their methodology
is a bit vague on whether they're sampling all Americans, or just
adults, or...)

Don't get me wrong; it's an exciting quote. I just hope everyone takes
it with the proper perspective, and realizes that it's probably "high"
by some unknowable order of magnitude.

David Smith
MVN.net
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RE: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?

2006-05-31 Thread JohnnyO
I won't do business with a company that will not do refunds or credits.
If they can't take care of you when things go sour, why should you take
care of them by sending your $$ their way ?

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:00 AM
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A refund or a credit?
I'm not aware of many vendors that agree to give refunds.
A sale is a sale.
Just because the cost to get it shipped is near the profit margin, and 
probably more costly to process the return than the profit on the sale
in 
most cases as well.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:16 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?


> John,
>
> I was looking for a response like yours.  I requested a refund lately 
> and
> was
> denied even though we called immediately after item was delivered.
>
> Has anyone ever returned and item to Hyperlinktech.com
>
>
> Quoting John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> We were banned from doing business with them because we requested a 
>> return once. Not kidding. Scriv
>>
>>
>> Rudolph Worrell wrote:
>>
>> >Can someone give me their honest opinion about doing business with 
>> >www.hyperlinktech.com.  They seem to have a great deal of antennas 
>> >and cable
>>
>> >but I am not sure they are WISP friendly as odd as that seems.
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RE: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?

2006-05-31 Thread JohnnyO
*snip* If someone gives refunds, thats a plus that shows they add value.
But not 
giving refunds does not infer wrong doing. *snip*

Tom - it is wrong doing when you ban someone for requesting a refund.
Hell, I've never bought from Hyperlink and from seeing their "ban"
policy with a few of the posts on here, we'll never do business with
them in the future. I guess I am not the only one that takes this point
of view either, so how much $$ did the "ban" on Scriv cost them actually
? :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?


Blake,

Its not that I disagree with you, that "it is good business to take care
of 
your customers."
Nor am I defending Hyperlinktech, as we don't have enough business 
experience with them, to have a valid opinion. but...


This isn't retail HomeDepot that we are talking about, this is
distribution. In my 10 years experience previously in the distribution
business, I can 
tell you there are not many companies that give "refunds."
We also found that the companies that couldn't understand why "refunds"
was 
bad business for distributors, usually were the ones that didn't do
enough 
volume to matter wether we lost them.  I'm not saying that I personally
do 
not believe in giving refunds. I also believe its best practice to take
care 
of the customer, in most cases. But that does not change the fact that
most 
dealers do NOT give refunds.

>Tessco, Talley. Hutton, Electrocomm.

They may give refunds, but there significant hassle in getting it, that
in 
most cases will be more costly to the buyer in time than the value of
the 
refund.
They also usually charge a higher profit margin on every sale than the 
smaller distributor that is competing on price, and therefore has more 
margin to justify eating the cost to give the refund.

I bet the price received from Hyperlinktech was significantly less than
that 
the Tesscos or Hutton's would have charged?
When price drops, terms gets tougher.  A distributor must determine
which 
business they want to be in, and they can't be in both successfully. If
in the price market they need to have price policies. Descretion needs
to 
be taken out of the set policies, otherwise its impossible to manage RMA

processes.

There are many reasons strict policies need to be inforced for
Refunds

1. Price constantly falls based on time. And even a week or s odone the
road 
the cost of the product may have dropped.
2. People find something cheaper after the fact.
3. Sales people may have already been paid commissions.
4. If special order product, the vendor ends up getting stuck with the
full 
cost of the product sitting in inventory for a long time, while price
drops 
by the time someone wants the product. Guaranteed to sell the product at
a 
loss as well as tie up cash flow.
5. People often irreputably return other vendor's products. Company 1
has 
stock and can ship today. Company 2 has lower cost.  Company 1 product
gets 
installed. Company 2 product when arrives gets sent back to company 1
for 
refund. Buyer actually makes a profit on the deal, getting a higher
dollar 
refunded than he paid for the gear from company 2. You'd be surprised
how 
often this happened. Sometimes even involving invoice forging and
swapping 
serial number stickers.
6. The easy way to keep EVERYONE happy, is instead to just offer credits
or 
replacements. It keeps everyone honest. If the buyer is really going to
be a 
repeat customer, its just a matter of time before he has another order
that 
he can apply the credit to.

This is standard distribution policies. There are some exceptions. If
the 
buyer bought a product that the vendor normally keeps in stock and sells
a 
lot of, and its a product that the buyer will likely never need again,
and 
the buyer didn't cause big inconvenience demanding immediate shipment of

product for a rush order.  On these cases, vendors almost always will
give 
the refund, even if against standard policies.

But there is no way you can say standard distribution policy is to give 
refunds. Just about every term sheet from anybody specifically says "NO 
REFUNDS, ALL SALES ARE FINAL". Thats jsut the reality.

Unless specifically discussed otherwise in advance of shipment.

If someone gives refunds, thats a plus that shows they add value. But
not 
giving refunds does not infer wrong doing.

Just my opinion.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:47 AM
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>A vendor that will n

RE: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?

2006-06-01 Thread JohnnyO
Sure do - We credit ALL of our customers without them having to ask for
any downtime over 12hours they experience on our system. If someone is
not happy with our service and ask for a refund for their installation,
we just give it to them, pick up our equipment and leave smiling.

How about you Rudolph ? How do you treat your customer base ? None of
our customers are due to advertisement, they are referrals by word of
mouth. How stupid would it be to give someone a hard time over a few
dollars when our business is driven by word of mouth advertising ?

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?


Do you offer refunds for your service?


Quoting Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Well JohnnyO,
> 
> That I agree with.  My defense was not of Hyperlink. My defense was 
> that not
> 
> giving refunds is not a bad thing.
> Banning someone (a prosective buyer) for such a request or for that 
> matter
> ANY REASON is absolutely rediculous.
> Vendors have the right to set their policies, but they also have the 
> responsibility to be the bigger person, and to not let individual 
> transaction decisions with a consumer effect their judgement, emotion,

> professionalism, and future business decissions.
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?
> 
> 
> > *snip* If someone gives refunds, thats a plus that shows they add 
> > value. But not giving refunds does not infer wrong doing. *snip*
> >
> > Tom - it is wrong doing when you ban someone for requesting a 
> > refund. Hell, I've never bought from Hyperlink and from seeing their

> > "ban" policy with a few of the posts on here, we'll never do 
> > business with them in the future. I guess I am not the only one that

> > takes this point of view either, so how much $$ did the "ban" on 
> > Scriv cost them actually ? :)
> >
> > JohnnyO
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:34 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Returns to Hyperlinktech.com is it possible?
> >
> >
> > Blake,
> >
> > Its not that I disagree with you, that "it is good business to take 
> > care of your customers."
> > Nor am I defending Hyperlinktech, as we don't have enough business
> > experience with them, to have a valid opinion. but...
> >
> >
> > This isn't retail HomeDepot that we are talking about, this is 
> > distribution. In my 10 years experience previously in the 
> > distribution business, I can tell you there are not many companies 
> > that give "refunds." We also found that the companies that couldn't 
> > understand why "refunds" was
> > bad business for distributors, usually were the ones that didn't do
> > enough
> > volume to matter wether we lost them.  I'm not saying that I
personally
> > do
> > not believe in giving refunds. I also believe its best practice to
take
> > care
> > of the customer, in most cases. But that does not change the fact
that
> > most
> > dealers do NOT give refunds.
> >
> >>Tessco, Talley. Hutton, Electrocomm.
> >
> > They may give refunds, but there significant hassle in getting it, 
> > that in most cases will be more costly to the buyer in time than the

> > value of the
> > refund.
> > They also usually charge a higher profit margin on every sale than
the
> > smaller distributor that is competing on price, and therefore has
more
> > margin to justify eating the cost to give the refund.
> >
> > I bet the price received from Hyperlinktech was significantly less 
> > than that the Tesscos or Hutton's would have charged?
> > When price drops, terms gets tougher.  A distributor must determine
> > which
> > business they want to be in, and they can't be in both successfully.
If
> > in the price market they need to have price policies. Descretion
needs
> > to
> > be taken out of the set policies, otherwise its impossible to manage
RMA
> >
> > processes.
> >
> > There are many 

[WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-04 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Anyone 
Else receiving these from these pricks ?
 
JohnnyO
 
 

-Original Message-From: APGWireless Info 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 
PMTo: 'Chris Russell'Cc: WISPA General 
ListSubject: RE: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 
2006
Please 
do NOT spam me any further in the future - I'd like to be removed from any and 
ALL lists ya'll have harvested from the WISP online forum/lists immediately. 
I've asked numerous times without any success.
 
Regards,
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: Chris Russell 
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RE: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-04 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Ahhh 
my old good friend Lonnie :) How are you these days ? Get a clue . I did - 
don't buy from Canadian companies - they'll bend you over every chance they get 
:) 
 
Prick 
: please see http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prick for 
a better run down on the term Lonnie. I did watch my language. Don't be so 
sensitive unless you fit the shoes...
 
I know 
I do ! 
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Lonnie NunweilerSent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:53 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See 
  what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006If you object to spam 
  as much as you say you do, then why on earth would you send that spam to a 
  list?  Get a clue.  Also, watch your language.Lonnie
  On 6/4/06, JohnnyO 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  


Anyone Else receiving these 
from these pricks ?
 
JohnnyO
 
 

-Original 
Message-From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PMTo: 'Chris 
Russell'Cc: WISPA General ListSubject: RE: See what's 
new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
Please do NOT spam me any 
further in the future - I'd like to be removed from any and ALL lists ya'll 
have harvested from the WISP online forum/lists immediately. I've asked 
numerous times without any success.
 
Regards,
 
JohnnyO

  -- Lonnie NunweilerValemount Networks Corporationhttp://www.star-os.com/ 

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RE: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-04 Thread JohnnyO
Lonnie - my experiences and my opinions of Canadian companies are that
of my own. Apparently you're looking to make an ass out of both you and
I or else you wouldn't have responded the way you did Slander - not
even close.

I KNOW DragonWave Harvested this list - Just like Tranzeo has harvested
this list as well in the past...and so has Trango ... They are Canadian
Companies who are spamming from the list addresses as of late. Should I
expect some email from StarOS anytime soon ?

I won't continue this any further and if I offended you by asking the
list if the pricks at DragonWave (my opinion solely) are spamming others
as well, my appologies. 

If you don't accept my appology, you leave me no other choice then to
plea temporary insanity and appologize for my verbal offense which I did
not realize I committed nor was I aware of any such actions and any
future repetition of the above said that I may not be aware of.

Regards,

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:03 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006


To the Board:

Is this behaviour condoned?  Not only did he spam the list and use
offensive language, but he now slanders all Canadian companies.

Lonnie

On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Ahhh my old good friend Lonnie :) How are you these days ? Get a clue 
> . I did - don't buy from Canadian companies - they'll bend you 
> over every chance they get :)
>
> Prick : please see 
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prick for a better run 
> down on the term Lonnie. I did watch my language. Don't be so 
> sensitive unless you fit the shoes...
>
> I know I do !
>
>
> JohnnyO
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
>
> If you object to spam as much as you say you do, then why on earth 
> would you send that spam to a list?  Get a clue.  Also, watch your 
> language.
>
> Lonnie
>
>
> On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone Else receiving these from these pricks ?
> >
> > JohnnyO
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PM
> > To: 'Chris Russell'
> > Cc: WISPA General List
> > Subject: RE: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
> >
> >
> > Please do NOT spam me any further in the future - I'd like to be 
> > removed
> from any and ALL lists ya'll have harvested from the WISP online 
> forum/lists immediately. I've asked numerous times without any 
> success.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > JohnnyO
> >
> >
>
>
>
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RE: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-07 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Sorry 
Ron - Didn't realize I had gotten filthy :) I appologize to you as well. 

 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Ron WallaceSent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:49 PMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at 
  DragonWave @ WCA 2006
  Yeah, JohnnyO, watch your filthy 
  f---ing talk.
  -Original Message-From: Lonnie 
Nunweiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 
4, 2006 11:53 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: 
[WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006If you 
object to spam as much as you say you do, then why on earth would you send 
that spam to a list?  Get a clue.  Also, watch your 
language.Lonnie
On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

  
  
  Anyone Else receiving 
  these from these pricks ?
   
  JohnnyO
   
   
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PMTo: 'Chris 
  Russell'Cc: WISPA General ListSubject: RE: See 
  what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
  Please do NOT spam me any 
  further in the future - I'd like to be removed from any and ALL lists 
  ya'll have harvested from the WISP online forum/lists immediately. I've 
  asked numerous times without any success.
   
  Regards,
   
  JohnnyO
  
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Corporationhttp://www.star-os.com/ 

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RE: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-08 Thread JohnnyO
Jeff - how many other platforms have you tooted the horn on that have
never produced the results you claimed ? Not trying to rain on your
parade here, but every platform you've tooted ranting raves about, has
never lived up to it's hype from what I have seen.

JohnnyO

Wanting to be a believer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front


Simple. Since the CPE self provisions and aligns itself, the customer
only need to know they need to install the device on their rooftop. And
they also have indoor devices that work to maybe a KM or so from the
tower but those Are as simple as a customer plugs in the ethernet plug
and power and puts The CPE near a window. I honestly doubt anyone will
use them, but they Are available. 

So really zero truck roll? Not really as most customers will want the
wisp to install it- but the major benefit is that the CPE's will not
require techs to carry a pc or anything other than cabling and tools to
set up the roof mount.

-

Jeff



On 6/8/06 8:04 PM, "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Color me jaded, but how can you get a zero truck roll CPE in 5.4-5.9 
> unlicensed?
> 
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
> 
> jeffrey thomas wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> Just got out of training for the new AIRSPAN wimax product for 5.8. 
>> Unlike most other vendors, they are going to market with their 
>> 802.16-2004 5.4-5.9
>> solution and are shipping in JULY, and expect FCC certification for
>> their 802.16-2004
>> product for 4.9 Ghz as well in July! I am very excited about this as
the
>> 3 plus
>> years of waiting for a viable, wimax product in a band that everyone
can
>> deploy
>> in will be available.
>> 
>> 
>> So, while the equipment has not been ratified by the Wimax forum as 
>> of yet, ( and they havent even decided when they will be certifying 
>> vendors ) this product will
>> be either complaint as is or will require a minor software upgrade
for
>> Wimax 
>> forum certified compatiability, assuming that the forum go with the
>> 802.16-2004 
>> spec as planned.
>> 
>> some notes on the product:
>> 
>> initial pricing expected to be very reasonably priced on the AP side 
>> of things,
>>  
>> 
>>> 600.00 / cpe
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>> 35 mb / sector real world throughput @ 64 QAM
>> 
>> full service flow integration for QOS
>> 
>> can be used in either 5 mhz channel size or 10 mhz channel
>> 
>> zero truck roll CPE ( users can easily install the equipment )
>> 
>> full blown FCAPS compliant NMS ( Fault monitoring configuration 
>> authentication provisioning security )
>> 
>> 
>> color me excited :)
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Jeff
>>  
>> 


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RE: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-08 Thread JohnnyO
Get with Jim Patient as well - www.jeffcosoho.com   He can build them
for you more then likely at a savings to WISP-Router could.

Jim makes some great ready to go products and he's a super nice guy :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device


There are people that build them for you.
MIkrotik sells pre-made systems.
WISP-Router I thought also did, but not possitive.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device


>I am looking for a device I can buy that does all of this out of the
> box. I don't want to build my own since I need 30-40 of them in the
next 
> 30 days.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Sam Tetherow wrote:
> 
>> Mikrotik on a routerboard 532 should do the trick although I haven't
>> messed with the VLAN stuff.
>> I am not a StarOS user, but I would bet that a StarOS setup on either

>> a WRAP or WAR board would work
>> as well.
>>
>>Sam Tetherow
>>Sandhills Wireless
>>
>> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for a device with the following requirements:
>>>
>>> * Can backhaul at >11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band
>>> * Can support VLANs
>>> * Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet port
>>> * Powered by PoE (the standard is not required)
>>> * Can act as a 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi access point assigned to a different 
>>> VLAN
>>> than the Ethernet port
>>> * Everything in a single outdoor enclosure
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
> 
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RE: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front

2006-06-08 Thread JohnnyO
Jeffrey Thomas - DOH ! - For some reason I had Jeff Booher on the brain
and made mistake of making this post ! ! ! ! Please - pretty please
forgive me for mixing you up ? 

/me holds head down and kicks rocks

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front


Jeff - how many other platforms have you tooted the horn on that have
never produced the results you claimed ? Not trying to rain on your
parade here, but every platform you've tooted ranting raves about, has
never lived up to it's hype from what I have seen.

JohnnyO

Wanting to be a believer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news on the wimax unlicensed front


Simple. Since the CPE self provisions and aligns itself, the customer
only need to know they need to install the device on their rooftop. And
they also have indoor devices that work to maybe a KM or so from the
tower but those Are as simple as a customer plugs in the ethernet plug
and power and puts The CPE near a window. I honestly doubt anyone will
use them, but they Are available. 

So really zero truck roll? Not really as most customers will want the
wisp to install it- but the major benefit is that the CPE's will not
require techs to carry a pc or anything other than cabling and tools to
set up the roof mount.

-

Jeff



On 6/8/06 8:04 PM, "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Color me jaded, but how can you get a zero truck roll CPE in 5.4-5.9
> unlicensed?
> 
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
> 
> jeffrey thomas wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> Just got out of training for the new AIRSPAN wimax product for 5.8.
>> Unlike most other vendors, they are going to market with their 
>> 802.16-2004 5.4-5.9
>> solution and are shipping in JULY, and expect FCC certification for
>> their 802.16-2004
>> product for 4.9 Ghz as well in July! I am very excited about this as
the
>> 3 plus
>> years of waiting for a viable, wimax product in a band that everyone
can
>> deploy
>> in will be available.
>> 
>> 
>> So, while the equipment has not been ratified by the Wimax forum as
>> of yet, ( and they havent even decided when they will be certifying 
>> vendors ) this product will
>> be either complaint as is or will require a minor software upgrade
for
>> Wimax
>> forum certified compatiability, assuming that the forum go with the
>> 802.16-2004 
>> spec as planned.
>> 
>> some notes on the product:
>> 
>> initial pricing expected to be very reasonably priced on the AP side
>> of things,
>>  
>> 
>>> 600.00 / cpe
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>> 35 mb / sector real world throughput @ 64 QAM
>> 
>> full service flow integration for QOS
>> 
>> can be used in either 5 mhz channel size or 10 mhz channel
>> 
>> zero truck roll CPE ( users can easily install the equipment )
>> 
>> full blown FCAPS compliant NMS ( Fault monitoring configuration
>> authentication provisioning security )
>> 
>> 
>> color me excited :)
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Jeff
>>  
>> 


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RE: [WISPA] ALBERTO

2006-06-12 Thread JohnnyO
And the more I thank god you live in the NorthWest as well :)~

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ALBERTO


the more this happens to you folks down there... the more I thank God I
live in the Northwest.




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Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:32 AM
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>
> Looks like it's that time of year again!
>
>  Looks like we are starting early again this year and I really hate 
> that!!
>
>
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[WISPA] Neat Antenna Source - High Gain 5ghz Omnis

2006-06-14 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Neat Antenna Source - High Gain 5ghz Omnis






A BUNCH of us have been asking for higher gain omnis for the 5ghz range. Looks like our wishes have been answered.


http://www.asiarf.com/Product/rfproduc/omniantenna.html    Not sure on pricing but may be worth looking into - they've got 15dBi Omnis in all of the 5ghz ranges ! YES ! 

JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX

2006-06-14 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Vidor 
? How large is this monthly account ? If it's worthwhile - I have a tower in 
that area we could slap service up on.
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Cliff LeboeufSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:56 
  AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Looking for 
  Service - Vider, TX
  
  I have a customer looking 
  for service in Vider, 
  TX.
   
  If you can supply service 
  to that area, please contact me off-list.
   
  - 
  Cliff
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RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service - Vider, TX

2006-06-14 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Sorry 
man - my gardending chemicals are getting to me this morning :) Must be soaking 
through my skin and hitting whatever brain I have left ! DOH 
!

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Cliff LeboeufSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:07 
  AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for 
  Service - Vider, TX
  
  JohnnyO, 
  what part of ‘off-list’ do you not understand 
  :)
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyOSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:27 
  AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for Service 
  - Vider, TX
   
  
  Vidor ? How 
  large is this monthly account ? If it's worthwhile - I have a tower in that 
  area we could slap service up on.
  
  JohnnyO
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff LeboeufSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:56 
AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Looking for Service - 
Vider, TX
I have a customer 
looking for service in Vider, TX.
 
If you can supply 
service to that area, please contact me 
off-list.
 
- 
Cliff
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RE: [WISPA] ATA - SIP Adapters

2006-06-22 Thread JohnnyO
Anyone using these successfully ? I don't mean 1 or 2 - but dozens that
have been in service....

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:25 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ATA - SIP Adapters


 froogle it, you see them from 49 - 69... :) 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATA - SIP Adapters

Rick Smith wrote:
> check THIS out.   VOIP ATA / NAT router all in one.
> 
> http://www.grandstream.com/y-ht496.htm
> 

Rick
How much these things running you?
I've been using the linksys ones but they are about 100.00 if I recall.

George

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[WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP *

2006-06-25 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP *






Need to hire someone 1st in the AM to help configure asterisk and 2 7940G phones.


The box is already configured, on a public IP with passwords set, phones are sitting right next to the box connected to the network. This shouldn't take long and I have no problem paying.

Please respond offlist with contact information and pricing.


Regards,


JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire some help ASAP*

2006-06-26 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Bueller ? Bueller ? - Anyone ? :)

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  JohnnyOSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 PMTo: WISPA 
  General ListSubject: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need 
  to hire some help ASAP*Importance: High
  Need to hire someone 1st in the AM to help 
  configure asterisk and 2 7940G phones. 
  The box is already configured, on a public IP with 
  passwords set, phones are sitting right next to the box connected to the 
  network. This shouldn't take long and I have no problem paying.
  Please respond offlist with contact information and 
  pricing. 
  Regards, 
  JohnnyO 
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RE: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP*

2006-06-26 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



David 
- thanks for the lead - I have a 4port FXO card and am terminating into the PTSN 
for local dialing and incoming. Will they help with only the configuration or do 
I have to purchase their services ?
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  David PetersonSent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:56 AMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Asterisk / Cisco 7940G 
  Phones * Need to hire somehelp ASAP*Check with http://www.junctionnetworks.com/index.phpI 
  have used them in the past.DavidOn 6/26/06 7:40 AM, "JohnnyO" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Bueller ? Bueller ? - Anyone ? :)
 -Original Message-From: 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of  JohnnyOSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 
  9:13 PMTo: WISPA  General ListSubject: [WISPA] 
  Asterisk / Cisco 7940G Phones * Need  to hire some help 
  ASAP*Importance: HighNeed to 
  hire someone 1st in the AM to help  configure asterisk and 2 7940G 
  phones. 
   The box is already configured, 
  on a public IP with  passwords set, phones are sitting right next to 
  the box connected to the  network. This shouldn't take long and I 
  have no problem paying.Please 
  respond offlist with contact information and  pricing.  Regards, 
   JohnnyO 


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RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



If 
every customer on my network did 5gig / mo - it would be no problem. Here is the 
kicker though - 70% of our customers use less then 1gig per month 
useage.
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 1:56 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: 
  Wireless In WashingtonMac,So if every user on 
  your network did 5Gig of transfer per month, your network would be OK? 
  ;)TravisMicroservMac Dearman wrote: 
  



This very thing is 
why I implemented a 5Gig rule up/down aggregate for the month written in my 
TOS with a $10.00 per Gig over the limit charge.  There is no way 
possible to keep someone from sharing (although that too is prohibited by my 
TOS)  their connection today with NAT and if you catch them what are 
you going to do? Prosecute them? Kick a monthly paying sub off your network? 
I found that just writing that little “gotcha” in my TOS works best for us. 
Bring on the $5.00 routers!!  I sale bandwidth for a living and the 
more I sell the more I make. I am the last one in the world who thinks we 
ought to limit the amount of up/download data 
transfer!!

Anyone know where I 
can in line to buy about a thousand of those $5.00 routers? I’ll bet I can 
resell them for $80.00 

Mac







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Jeff 
BroadwickSent: Tuesday, 
June 27, 2006 10:18 AMTo: 
'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
Washington

Yeah, I saw 
that...everyone should take a good look at their Terms of 
Service...


Jeff 
BroadwickImageStream800-813-5123 x106 






From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer 
(509) 982-2181Sent: 
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:09 AMTo: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
Washington

For those 
that still think the all you can eat option is a good one 
:-)



Marlon(509) 
982-2181   
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
(Vonage)    
Consulting services42846865 
(icq)    
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- 
Original Message - 
This guy needs to 
get a job from FON… http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200989,00.html 





  
  

  Wi-Fi 
  Company to Sell Routers for Five 
  Dollars
  

  Monday, 
  June 26, 2006
  
  


  

  

  
  

  STORIES
•
Reports 
of Death of Dial-Up Internet Greatly 
Exaggerated



  LONDON 
   — FON, a Spanish start-up on an ambitious crusade to turn 
  home Wi-Fi 
  connections into wireless "hotspots" for nearby users, is set to 
  unveil on Monday a plan to hand out 1 million wireless 
  routers for just $5 apiece. 
  
  FON, which 
  aims to create a network of home users and small businesses to resell 
  wireless 
  access to passersby, said on Sunday it will subsidize $60 Cisco (CSCO) 
  Linksys or Buffalo routers for $5 in 
  the United States 
  or 5 euros in Europe.
  Routers are 
  small boxes users connect to cable or telephone Internet connections 
  to broadcast wireless signals to nearby devices, inside a home, 
  business or surrounding neighborhood.
  Juergen 
  Urbanski, North American general manager, said FON, which in February 
  raised $21.7 million from backers, including the founders of Google 
  (GOOG) 
  and Skype, 
  is looking to turn the brand-name equipment into what it calls "social 
  routers."
  The goal of 
  the Madrid-based company is to build block-by-block networks of shared 
  wireless connections around the globe, turning local Wi-Fi users into 
  an army of "foneros" — its term for people who share wireless 
  access.
  As the 
  company's name implies, FON aims to provide wireless 
  Internet access not just to computer users but 
  also for mobile phones and the latest portable gaming devices as they 
  roam

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



*snip* 
We have a download factor many times greater than 24kbs 
  <2Mbs>
 
Mac
 
*snip*
 
Mac - 
shuddup and goto sleep ! :)
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mac DearmanSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:03 PMTo: 
  'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
  Washington
  
  Travis,
   
    I did not 
  check your math as I am full of Enchiladas and Negra Modelo 
  Cerveza.
   
   I am pretty 
  confident in your addition and multiplication though and even if it “may” be 
  wrong – It’s OK.
   
     
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:46 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
  Washington
   
  Hi,Just for fun, I wanted to see how much 
  usage that would be... so, here is some very quick and dirty 
  math...5GB per month is about a 28.8 dial-up connection running all 
  month long. That equates to about 24kbps per user.1,000 users * 24kbps 
  = 24,000kbps / 1024 = 23Mbps (or about 1/2 of a T3) for 1,000 users. 2,000 
  users would be about 45Mbps.Does my math work? I guess when you are 
  talking about running 24 hours per day, it adds up 
  fast.TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  
  
  If every customer on 
  my network did 5gig / mo - it would be no problem. Here is the kicker though - 
  70% of our customers use less then 1gig per month 
  useage.
  
   
  
  JohnnyO
  
-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Travis 
JohnsonSent: Tuesday, June 
27, 2006 1:56 PMTo: 
WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
Washington
Mac,So if every user on your network did 
5Gig of transfer per month, your network would be OK? 
;)TravisMicroservMac Dearman wrote: 

This 
very thing is why I implemented a 5Gig rule up/down aggregate for the month 
written in my TOS with a $10.00 per Gig over the limit charge.  There 
is no way possible to keep someone from sharing (although that too is 
prohibited by my TOS)  their connection today with NAT and if you catch 
them what are you going to do? Prosecute them? Kick a monthly paying sub off 
your network? I found that just writing that little “gotcha” in my TOS works 
best for us. Bring on the $5.00 routers!!  I sale bandwidth for a 
living and the more I sell the more I make. I am the last one in the world 
who thinks we ought to limit the amount of up/download data 
transfer!!
Anyone 
know where I can in line to buy about a thousand of those $5.00 routers? 
I’ll bet I can resell them for $80.00 
Mac

size=2 
width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Jeff 
BroadwickSent: Tuesday, 
June 27, 2006 10:18 AMTo: 
'WISPA General 
List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
Washington
Yeah, I 
saw that...everyone should take a good look at their Terms of 
Service...
Jeff 
BroadwickImageStream800-813-5123 x106 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer 
(509) 982-2181Sent: 
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:09 AMTo: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In 
Washington

For those 
that still think the all you can eat option is a good one 
:-)

Marlon(509) 
982-2181   
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
(Vonage)    
Consulting services42846865 
(icq)    
And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam

 

- 
Original Message - 
This guy needs to 
get a job from FON… http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200989,00.html 




  
  

  Wi-Fi 
  Company to Sell Routers for Five 
  Dollars
  

  Monday, 
  June 26, 2006
  
  


  
 
  

  
  

  STORIES
•
Reports 
of Death of Dial-Up Internet Greatly 
Exaggerated


 
  LONDON 
   — FON, a Spanish start-up on an ambitious crusade to turn 
  home Wi-Fi 
  connections into wireless "hotspots" for nearby users, is set to 
  unveil on Monday a plan to hand out 1 million wireless 
  routers for just $5 apiece. 
  
  FON, which 
  aims to creat

[WISPA] RB112s

2006-07-05 Thread JohnnyO
Title: RB112s






Who has stock on these ? 


JohnnyO



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[WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-06 Thread JohnnyO
Title: High Gain 2.4ghz Grid






Looking for something with higher gain then 24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing us on packet loss.

We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo CPE200 connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that is out of the question.

JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-06 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



You 
always amaze me Travis. Are you using Mountain Tops ?
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:41 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 
  2.4ghz GridWe are doing 30+ mile shots with 24db grids 
  into 9db omni's. TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  

Looking for something with higher gain then 24dBi 
for a 12mile shot that we have to do with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS and we're 
seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing us on packet loss.
We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo CPE200 
connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that is out of 
    the question.
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RE: [WISPA] High Gain 2.4ghz Grid

2006-07-07 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Travis 
- completely different terrain. I am FLAT here - You have elevation changes that 
keep your fresnel zones clear.
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:29 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] High Gain 
  2.4ghz GridSome are on mountaintops, some are on 100ft 
  towers. It may be the equipment I am using as well... if you have a 19dbi 
  antenna now, and change to 24dbi, then you should have a -77 signal, which is 
  PLENTY for Trango 2.4ghz (-90 receive level for 1600byte packets and full 
  5Mbps speed). ;)TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: 
  

You always amaze me Travis. Are you using Mountain Tops 
?
 
JohnnyO

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 
  4:41 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] 
  High Gain 2.4ghz GridWe are doing 30+ mile shots with 
  24db grids into 9db omni's. TravisMicroservJohnnyO 
  wrote: 
  

Looking for something with higher gain then 
24dBi for a 12mile shot that we have to do with 2.4ghz. It's Near LOS 
and we're seeing -82 but the tree tops are killing us on packet 
loss.
We currently have a 19dBi tranzeo CPE200 
connecting to a 9dBi Omni. I don't want to amp this shot so that is out 
of the question.
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[WISPA] Wrap 1E and SR5s/SR2s

2006-07-11 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Wrap 1E and SR5s/SR2s






Anyone using SR5s or SR2s in WRAP 1 E boards ? Good / bad / ugly ?


JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] New Orleans vs. Yankee Country

2006-07-11 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Much 
better then driving North from I-10 for hours Mac - Yankee territory is 
much rougher then south of New Orleans ! :)
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mac DearmanSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:26 PMTo: 
  'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] New 
  Orleans
  
  Cliff,
   
   You know you 
  are going to confuse folks by telling them you are South of New Orleans! That 
  is supposed to be the Gulf J The majority of 
  mankind don’t realize you can drive for hours South of New Orleans. (Although 
  it’s not recommended)
   
   
  
  Mac
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff LeboeufSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:01 
  PMTo: WISPA General 
  ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] New 
  Orleans
   
  Walter, who you looking for in 
  New Orleans? 
  I’m about 50 miles to the SW.On 7/11/06 8:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I am down here for 2 days-any one 
  else around? Walter W. Stumpf 
  Jr. 
  
  
  
   
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RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread JohnnyO
Bummer cliff - your wife already said she'd be there only because I WAS
GOING ! :)~

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock


Sh!t...If JohnnyO's gonna be there -- count me out!

Mac, what are the details: When, where, local crash spots, etc.
- Cliff



On 7/13/06 8:13 AM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cliff,
> 
>   You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 
> to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling 
> South. You know that Y'all are all special :-)
> 
> Mac
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
> 
> Mac, I would be interested in attending...
> How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for 
>> Labor
> Day.
>> It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
> enjoy.
>> Bring your fishing pole...etc
>> 
>> All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!
>> 
>> Mac Dearman
>> 

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RE: [WISPA] Forgetful

2006-07-19 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Mac - 
Call me - ASAP ASAP ASAP - 337-764-5952 - Friggen Lightning ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 
!
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Mac DearmanSent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:36 AMTo: 
  'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] 
  Forgetful
  
  I believe this is the 
  one Dawn posted a couple weeks ago. You will have to zoom in to see the tower 
  locations/owners…etc. It’s a great tool!!
   
   
  http://towers.conxx.net/
   
  
  Mac 
  Dearman
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross CornettSent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:28 
  AMTo: Conversations over a 
  new WISP Trade OrganizationSubject: [WISPA] 
  Forgetful
   
  
  Recently, someone posted a website 
  that linked to all the towers in the country and that site was a listing of 
  contact phone numbers for each tower.
  
   
  
  can you please post that site 
  again.
  
   
  
  Thank 
  you.
  
   
  
   
  
  Ross CornettVP 217 342 
  6201 ex 7HofNet Communications, Inc.www.HofNet-Communications.com
  
   
  
  HofNet-Communications.com
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[WISPA] MTU/MRU - Wireless Customers - Routers - PPPOE - Email problems

2006-07-28 Thread JohnnyO
Title: MTU/MRU - Wireless Customers - Routers - PPPOE - Email problems






Im having some recent problems with email services to our clients. We're running PPPoE to all of our clients and using a MTU / MRU setting of 1480. 

Any of our customers who are on DHCP don't have any issues at all. Any customers using routers with PPPoE can receive email but cannot send email. 

Anyone else seeing this ? If so - what was your fix ?


JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] Testing my own email...

2006-08-06 Thread JohnnyO
Well does it work ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:27 PM
To: Wispa List
Subject: [WISPA] Testing my own email...


I moved my DNS servers this weekend...wanted to make certain 
delivery is still working, since I have not seen any traffic from 
any of the lists I am on...

-- 
Butch Evans
Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
http://www.butchevans.com/
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
(http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html)
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RE: [WISPA] orthogon gemini lite connectorized

2006-08-07 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Dylan 
- save your $$ - use Mikrotik 532s - SR5s - You will be AMAZED at the 
performance you'll see - and save 3k to boot ! We have 2 Orthogon Links deployed 
and hands down Mikrotik makes me smile more :)
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Dylan OliverSent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:21 PMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] orthogon gemini lite 
  connectorizedHi WISPA,I really, really, *really* 
  need to get my hands on a connectorized OS Gemini Lite. I've had an order in 
  with Tessco since June 21st and it's been backordered *again* til the 22nd of 
  August. Clear Channel is not happy! So if you're sitting on a 
  connectorized OS Gemini Lite with no plans to use it before September - help a 
  dues-paying member out!Best,-- Dylan 
  OliverPrimaverity, LLC 
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RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introducesbilltoencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]

2006-08-09 Thread JohnnyO
5 Paragraphs ? I had to delete an entire page. David doesn't realize
just how much of the "rural" tax $$ goes to support "City" living and
that if it weren't for rural american coming into and shopping in
"City", Cities wouldn't have the programs or $$ that it has.

For the rest of my feelings, Its best I just keep my fingers still :)

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Weddell
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:27 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin
introducesbilltoencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]


I wrote a 5 paragraph response to David as well on this subject, then
erased it all. I am with you Mac and will choose to NOT make any
derogatory comments at all. It just a shame to see all of these
government programs being given to the RBOC's and others that abuse the
money. 

Regards from rural Indiana where 35% of our population resides.

Regards,
David Weddell
Director of Sales
 
260 827 2551 Office
800 363 4881  Ext 2551
260 273 7547 Cell
 
www.onlyinternet.net
www.oibw.net
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:06 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces
billtoencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]

I could take offense pretty easy at most of your comments - - so I will
just choose to NOT make any comments at all :)



Regards from deep in rural Louisiana,

Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC
Rayville, La.
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us  (VoIP Sales)
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina Relief)
318.728.8600
318.728.9600
318.303.4181
318.303.4182




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Sovereen
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill
toencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]

Since when do the people on this list support taxation, waste, and
government subsidies?  Why should the burden of providing high-speed
Internet to people in underserved (typically rural) areas fall on the
shoulders of taxpayers?  I don't want my taxes to pay to expand your
network or for Joe User to get your service.

If people want services, they should live in a city.  If they want to
live in rural areas, they should do so with the understanding that
services (water, sewer, EMS, schools, cable, high-speed Internet, just
about anything and everything) are harder to come by and sometimes more
expensive.  No one makes people live in the country.  People choose to
on their own, and they should take responsibility for the costs and/or
lack of services associated with that decision.

Just my own 2 cents.

Dave

989-837-3790 x 151
989-837-3780 fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.mercury.net

129 Ashman St, Midland, MI  48640
- Original Message - 
From: "Chadd Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill
toencouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas]


> IMO they need to start giving money to the end users to pay for hookup

> and installation. Stop paying to expand WISP's networks and give the 
> money
where
> it is needed, if you want a bigger network pay for it out of your own 
> pocket. In IL I doubt you could drive from Chicago to St.Louis and not

> be able to hook up to a WISP.
>
>
> Give money to the people who need to put up a 45ft tower to get 
> access.
>
> Thanks,
> Chadd
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:54 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to 
> > encouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas]
> >
> >
> > Don't forget the 3rd great lie..."I'm from the government and I'm 
> > here to help you"
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > Jeff Broadwick
> > ImageStream
> > 800-813-5123 x106
>
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RE: [WISPA] Welcome Alvarion to WISPA - Our Newest Vendor Member

2006-08-11 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message



Ron - 
you been drinking ? Boy you sure are full of warm fuzzies tonight 
:)
 
JohnnyO

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Ron WallaceSent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 12:19 
  AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Welcome 
  Alvarion to WISPA - Our Newest Vendor Member
  Yes, 
  Welcome alvarion, And thank you and Patrick for the many papers and valuable 
  information that you have made available to all of us in the 
  past.
  I look forward to your input here in the 
future.
  Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 
  Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >-Original Message->From: John Scrivner 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 02:04 
  AM>To: '', ''>Subject: [WISPA] Welcome Alvarion to WISPA - Our 
  Newest Vendor Member>>We are proud to announce that Alvarion has 
  joined WISPA as our newest >vendor member. Alvarion has been key in the 
  development of the >operations of many WISPs over the years. Alvarion 
  is considered by many >to be the premier solution for WISP operations 
  and we welcome them to >WISPA as a vendor member. I am sure I speak for 
  all WISPA members when I >say welcome to 
  Alvarion.>Scriv>-- >WISPA Wireless List: 
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[WISPA] Tower contract / Revenue Share / Discounted Services

2006-08-14 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Tower contract / Revenue Share / Discounted Services






Have a company that is paying us to install a tower at their location so we they can receive our internet services. What we negotiated was - they pay for ALL costs including backhaul, 3 2.4ghz sectors, tower costs / installation costs.

We get exclusive rights to the tower. They get 20% revenue share from any customers being served directly off of the tower, and they receive 50% off of their monthly service fees.

Does anyone have a contract that would cover part or all of what was stated ?


Regards,


JohnnyO



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RE: [WISPA] Midland, TX

2006-08-16 Thread JohnnyO
Matt - don't quote me on this but we were in Midland, Tx about 4 months
ago and I saw plenty of gear hanging. Not sure who it is, but someone
out there is playing with wireless.

IF you want to do something in Midland/Odessa area, I have SEVERAL tower
sites there available to you.

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:26 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Midland, TX


Anyone provide service in Midland, TX?

-Matt
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RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2

2006-08-17 Thread JohnnyO


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:32 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2


11MByte/sec as in approx 88Mbps?  Sounds about like NStreme Turbo (40MHz
channel) or Alvarion B100 (40MHz channel).

Considering this thread was originally about the RB532 and its
shortcomings, has anyone tried loading MikroTik OS onto the StarOS
533MHz hardware?

*Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads to promote his products. We
shouldn't punish him for it because after all, he is canadian ! :)~

JohnnyO

Brad

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:25 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2

Lonnie,

Wow, that was fast.  Great New!
Testing starts this week.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2


> Tom,
>
> The new V3 release has been posted and you can set MTU to very high 
> values if your cards support jumbo frames.  Our WAR board, with its 
> very advanced Intel Ethernet can do 16K for the MTU.  Most other cards

> have limits in the 2K to 4K range.
>
> We also have released the first x86 PC Architecture version and the 
> updated x86 WRAP version.  They  have the same features as the WAR 
> version.
>
> I'm not sure if we mentioned it but the x86 version has a free mode 
> that is no longer a 24 hour trial.  It saves settings and everything 
> works, except of course the advanced features that we use to add 
> value.  You can use it for fairly advance routing (quagga has ospf and
> rip) for free.
>
> We'll require a paid license for wireless, policy or source routing, 
> bandwidth control and our firewall scripting.  We are pretty sure that

> more than 11 MBytes/sec in Turbo mode on a power machine will meet 
> with approval.  Device bonding will be coming fairly soon and it will 
> allow simple hdx bonding, fdx bonding and failover bonding.
>
> We use the Linux 2.6 kernel and we have been able to get this image to

> well under 8 MB and average ram use on bootup is about 16 MB.  It took

> a long time to get here and we have to thank everybody for being 
> patient.  Some of you wrote us off and figured that V3 would never 
> reach the light of day, so I hope you take a look at what this new 
> release can do.
>
> Lonnie
>
>
>
> On 8/15/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Lonnie,
>>
>> When you get that feature solved / added, please let me know, or make

>> a public announcement. If you let me know, I'll do a bunch of talk 
>> for you persoanlly, to promote
>> the feature.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
>>
>>
>> > It will just be easier to support an insane MTU size so that people

>> > can go and do whatever they want.  I can imagine people doing some 
>> > vlan in vlan and then running the whole works over a tunnel, and 
>> > each one adds tags and headers to the actual 1500 byte payload.
>> >
>> > Lonnie
>> >
>> > On 8/14/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Lonnie,
>> >>
>> >> I just wrote to you off list, before seeing your onlist response.
>> >>
>> >> >V3 has support for a fully transparent
>> >> > client bridge when it talks to an appropriately configured V3 AP

>> >> >system.
>> >>
>> >> That is good news!
>> >>
>> >> > License Fee after 1 year.
>> >>
>> >> The policy you explained, is fair and reasonable.
>> >>
>> >> > We are currently working on a custom MTU size interface for 
>> >> > every device to be able to handle whatever you want for MTU 
>> >> > size.
>> >>
>> >> Great.  To be more clear... Its easy for people (like me) to get
>> >> confused
>> >> between IP versus Ethernet headers. In our VLAN applications, its
the
>> >> Ethernet 

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