[WISPA] Here’s a great article about how and why social distancing works

[Sean Heskett via Wireless]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Lots of great simulation animations and graphs.


Enjoy!

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

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NBA just suspended its season indefinitely

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:59 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> This is from a dr. In norther Italy.
>
> TRINA AND CLAUDE PLEASE READ THIS.
>
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/young-unafraid-coronavirus-pandemic-good-you-now-stop-killing-people-opinion-1491797
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:48 PM Trina Coffey  wrote:
>
>> Matt
>>
>> Thank you for the rousing endorsement of my competency.  I insure all of
>> our shows.  There are no current factors that fall under an insurable event
>> for this show.  Please understand that while you may not personally agree
>> with or understand all of the factors that go into a decision, I ALWAYS
>> make decisions with the best interest of our membership at the forefront of
>> my mind.  That being said there are many factors that you are either not
>> aware of or do not understand that went into the decision that this
>> organization has made.  You have cancelled your registration,  so please
>> afford those who have chosen to come Dallas the respect that they have made
>> the best decision for themselves.  It may differ from yours but that does
>> not make it wrong.  We are all adults and are perfectly capable of making
>> this decision for ourselves.
>>
>> Trina Coffey
>> Vice President of Events & Operations
>> WISPA
>> 407-319-0051
>>
>> On 3/11/20, 6:25 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> "Almost all of our attendees and vendors are interested in continuing
>> the show, which means the show will go on. We have made significant
>> financial and operational commitments in reliance on attendee which
>> has
>> not waned. Out of an abundance of caution we have put in place many
>> safety protocols to minimize the likelihood of COVID-19 and/or other
>> infectious disease transmission.
>>
>> Since the show is continuing, we must stick to our stated policies of
>> not offering refunds. We have already made financial and operational
>> commitments in reliance on your participation in the show, and that
>> means we have to stick to our policies. I hope you can understand."
>>
>>
>> INTERPRETATION:  WISPA can not cancel this show no matter what,
>> because
>> we need the income to pay for the show, which is already reserved.
>> We
>> most likely don't have event insurance either.  So while we
>> understand
>> your concerns, we are extremely sorry but there's just no way we can
>> refund your money and we are going to expose everyone who comes to an
>> ever increasing risk.   Please understand, money comes before safety.
>>
>> On 3/11/20 4:25 PM, jerry bickle wrote:
>> > Trina, can you let us know the WISPA’s position of refunding
>> conference
>> > fees?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Jerry Bickle
>> >
>> > President
>> >
>>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

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This is from a dr. In norther Italy.

TRINA AND CLAUDE PLEASE READ THIS.

https://www.newsweek.com/young-unafraid-coronavirus-pandemic-good-you-now-stop-killing-people-opinion-1491797


-Sean


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:48 PM Trina Coffey  wrote:

> Matt
>
> Thank you for the rousing endorsement of my competency.  I insure all of
> our shows.  There are no current factors that fall under an insurable event
> for this show.  Please understand that while you may not personally agree
> with or understand all of the factors that go into a decision, I ALWAYS
> make decisions with the best interest of our membership at the forefront of
> my mind.  That being said there are many factors that you are either not
> aware of or do not understand that went into the decision that this
> organization has made.  You have cancelled your registration,  so please
> afford those who have chosen to come Dallas the respect that they have made
> the best decision for themselves.  It may differ from yours but that does
> not make it wrong.  We are all adults and are perfectly capable of making
> this decision for ourselves.
>
> Trina Coffey
> Vice President of Events & Operations
> WISPA
> 407-319-0051
>
> On 3/11/20, 6:25 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
> wrote:
>
> "Almost all of our attendees and vendors are interested in continuing
> the show, which means the show will go on. We have made significant
> financial and operational commitments in reliance on attendee which
> has
> not waned. Out of an abundance of caution we have put in place many
> safety protocols to minimize the likelihood of COVID-19 and/or other
> infectious disease transmission.
>
> Since the show is continuing, we must stick to our stated policies of
> not offering refunds. We have already made financial and operational
> commitments in reliance on your participation in the show, and that
> means we have to stick to our policies. I hope you can understand."
>
>
> INTERPRETATION:  WISPA can not cancel this show no matter what,
> because
> we need the income to pay for the show, which is already reserved.
> We
> most likely don't have event insurance either.  So while we understand
> your concerns, we are extremely sorry but there's just no way we can
> refund your money and we are going to expose everyone who comes to an
> ever increasing risk.   Please understand, money comes before safety.
>
> On 3/11/20 4:25 PM, jerry bickle wrote:
> > Trina, can you let us know the WISPA’s position of refunding
> conference
> > fees?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jerry Bickle
> >
> > President
> >
>
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbyPW8lJX2E


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:29 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Yup great site josh!  We are about 9 days behind Italy.
>
> The cases grow exponentially every day and what will happen is our
> hospitals have no surge capacity.  20% of the people who get it will need
> ICU level of care.  There isn’t capacity for that unless we flatten the
> curve.  The same number of people will probably get the virus, the
> difference will be that our health care system can handle the load if it is
> stretched over time.
>
> Social distancing is the only way to flatten the curve.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM Josh Luthman via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hvia4VtxJ1AjJZaTv40aive3k79kdTmOfjt_vGkGz7o4XuY4ZnRO02-Y#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:59 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.flattenthecurve.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
>>>> safety of everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.
>>>>
>>>> I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we
>>>> should all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We
>>>> need WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
>>>> financially.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

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Yup great site josh!  We are about 9 days behind Italy.

The cases grow exponentially every day and what will happen is our
hospitals have no surge capacity.  20% of the people who get it will need
ICU level of care.  There isn’t capacity for that unless we flatten the
curve.  The same number of people will probably get the virus, the
difference will be that our health care system can handle the load if it is
stretched over time.

Social distancing is the only way to flatten the curve.

Thanks for sharing!

-Sean


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM Josh Luthman via Wireless <
wireless@wispa.org> wrote:

>
> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hvia4VtxJ1AjJZaTv40aive3k79kdTmOfjt_vGkGz7o4XuY4ZnRO02-Y#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Suite 1337
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Troy, OH 45373
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:59 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> https://www.flattenthecurve.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
>>> safety of everyone.
>>>
>>> Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.
>>>
>>> I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we
>>> should all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We
>>> need WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
>>> financially.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

[Sean Heskett via Wireless]

https://www.flattenthecurve.com/



On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
> safety of everyone.
>
> Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.
>
> I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we should
> all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We need
> WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
> financially.
>
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>
> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Sean
>
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[WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

[Sean Heskett via Wireless]

I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
safety of everyone.

Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.

I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we should
all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We need
WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
financially.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference

https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

Best regards,

-Sean
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Re: [WISPA] IP Tracking

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IPPLAN
https://sourceforge.net/projects/iptrack/

Or most CRM software (sonar, power code, VISP) usually has ip management
capabilities too.

-Sean


On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:26 PM Jeremy Austin via Wireless <
wireless@wispa.org> wrote:

> If you're willing to use commercial (hosted) software with an API (I
> think), check out https://www.apteriks.com/
>
> I used it for some years, but have now begun to switch to open-source
> netbox https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox
>
> Netbox takes some time to get rolling, as it can track far more than just
> IP addresses.
>
> One caveat is that while netbox is open source, development is tightly
> controlled and data-center-centric.
>
> Jeremy Austin
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 10:18 AM David Funderburk via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
>> We are trying to better organize our IP address tracking. What affordable
>> software do you recommend?  Solarwinds is not in our budget yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Funderburk
>> GlobalVision
>> 864-569-0703
>>
>> For Technical Support, please email gv-supp...@globalvision.net.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] solar?

[Sean Heskett via Wireless]

Do you have electric at these sites already or are you trying to deploy
where there is no electric utility?

If you already have electric then just invest in a lot of batteries and
save your time and money.

If it’s an off grid site then I’d have someone like sunwize just build you
the first system so you get everything correct.

-Sean


On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 10:54 AM David Funderburk via Wireless <
wireless@wispa.org> wrote:

> I've been reading quite a bit about solar and want to add it to a couple
> of remote tower sites.  If you have any sites you recommend to purchase the
> parts and/or a great place to learn even more, please send me links off
> list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
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> 864-569-0703
>
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[WISPA] Job opening: Networking engineer

[Sean Heskett]

https://www.zirkelwireless.com/jobs/

Looking for a network engineer with some ninja skills who wants to live and
work in Steamboat Springs, CO - ski pass included in benefits package.

send resume to res...@zirkel.us

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Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??

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Butch Evans 

he's been active on the animal farm list if you want to try over there
a...@af.afmug.com

-Sean


On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Tony C. Loosle  wrote:

> so the number I have in my phone and on he website do not work.  And
> emails are unanswered.   Does anyone have any other contact for him?
>
> t
>
>
> Tony C. Loosle wrote:
> > I have been trying to contact Butch Evans for some mikrotik work.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know if he is still around?
> >
> > t
> >
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Re: [WISPA] SBA tower / Avetta compliance

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thanks todd, replied off list.

-sean

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Todd Harpest 
wrote:

> Sean:
>
>
>
> Yes, we are located on an SBA tower and we had to meet many requirements
> before we were allowed to install and maintain equipment on their tower.
> While initially it seemed to be a big pain, by the end we felt more
> comfortable that we were properly preparing our tower crews with the safety
> knowledge and skills which may ultimately save their life and our company.
>
>
>
> Please contact me offline and I’ll see how we can be of help.
>
>
>
> Todd Harpest
>
> MetaLINK Technologies
>
> 419.990.0310 *|* 888.999.8002 x310 *|* *fax* 419.782.2854
>
> tharp...@team-meta.net  *|* www.metalink.net
>
>
>
>  *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2018 2:15 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org; a...@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA tower / Avetta compliance
>
>
>
> I spent a couple weeks with it.  I just dropped the idea and hired a crew
> out of Columbus.
>
>
>
> The health & safety document I "borrowed" from a large company out there
> and then started changing the words.  Avetta still said it would be
> 30/60/90+ days before they'd review it.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Hello gang,
>
>
>
> one of the towers we've been on for many years was sold to SBA.  SBA is
> now requiring that we get compliance certification from Avetta.  We've
> filled out the entire LONG questionnaire for Avetta however at the end they
> are asking us to upload a PDF of our "Safety & Health documentation".
>
>
>
> Has anyone else on the list gone thru this process?  Does anyone on the
> list have a "Safety and Health doc" they'd be willing to share that we
> could use as a template?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Sean
>
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[WISPA] SBA tower / Avetta compliance

[Sean Heskett]

Hello gang,

one of the towers we've been on for many years was sold to SBA.  SBA is now
requiring that we get compliance certification from Avetta.  We've filled
out the entire LONG questionnaire for Avetta however at the end they are
asking us to upload a PDF of our "Safety & Health documentation".

Has anyone else on the list gone thru this process?  Does anyone on the
list have a "Safety and Health doc" they'd be willing to share that we
could use as a template?

Best regards,

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[WISPA] SOHO router hack

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FBI recommends users at a minimum reboot their router to kill the malware.
Factory default, upgrade firmware and change passwords etc. is the best fix.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/fbi-tells-router-users-to-reboot-now-to-kill-malware-infecting-500k-devices/
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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: MDU Ethernet over Coax recommendations

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I’m not an expert in coax deployments but I know calix has a g.fast over
coax system.  I don’t know if you can still deliver cable tv over the coax
tho.

Sean

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 6:50 PM Dan Harling  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We're setting up service in an MDU that has coax home-runs to each unit,
> but no Ethernet.  Normally in such situations, we deliver internet access
> wirelessly via access points in the hallways.  Increasingly, however,
> interference and bandwidth expectations are making this solution less
> effective.
>
> So, we're looking for recommendations for an Ethernet-over-Coax solution.
> It absolutely must inject onto a cable already carrying broadcast TV
> signals.  We'd prefer a simple point-to-point solution, rather than a hub
> that simulates a switch, so that security between subscribers isn't based
> on firmware that was designed for (say) security cameras.
>
> I see inexpensive devices along these lines that are designed for Cable or
> Satellite TV signals, but no indication whether they would clobber
> broadcast TV signals.  Any suggestions?
>
> Daniel Harling  <><
> Engineering, Cape Ann Communications
> 183 Main Street, Gloucester, MA  01930
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Re: [WISPA] Hard hat class

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I’ve never heard that.  Climbers do need one with a chin strap though.

Check with a supplier like GME or check with whoever you use to certify
your climbers.


-Sean


On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:42 PM Scott Piehn  wrote:

> We are getting new hard hats for our ground people when around a tower.  I
> seem to remember the standard helmet class is not enough even if the person
> is just a ground person.  they still need a different class hard hat.  Does
> this ring a bell with anyone and if so, what class hard hat am I looking for
>
> -
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Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

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Yes but do you prioritize vonage over ooma??? 

-Sean

[Sent from mobile]

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 6:33 PM, James Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Don't we prioritize VoIP?
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2017 4:04 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:
>> This is fantastic.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
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>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2017 3:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh"  wrote:
>>> For your use, re-posted from last week:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Talking Points for WISPA Members on “Net Neutrality” and “Internet Freedom”
>>> 
>>> December 2017
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Overview for WISPA Members
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ·   These talking points are not intended to be used proactively. WISPA 
>>> is not taking a proactive role in advocacy on this issue, and we do not 
>>> recommend that you do.
>>> 
>>> ·   The intent is to help you be prepared for media and public 
>>> inquiries if they do come in.
>>> 
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>>> neutrality, or WISPA’s position, we encourage you to refer it to us to 
>>> handle. Please send it to:
>>> 
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>>> d...@dalecurtiscommunications.com
>>> 
>>> ·   If you do choose to answer a media or public query:
>>> 
>>> o   Please let us know, preferably in advance; and
>>> 
>>> o   Please stick to this script; going off script could create problems for 
>>> you and your business.  
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> heavy-handed regulation and enforcement that is ill-suited for small 
>>> providers.
>>> 
>>>  
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>>> years ago? It worked well then, and it will again.
>>> 
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>>> monopoly utilities – with open-ended and vaguely worded requirements, all 
>>> subject to bureaucratic whim – are taking resources away from investment in 
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>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] CBRS Operator Member Survey

[Sean Heskett]

done!

Sean Heskett

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> On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> To prepare for comments on the CBRS NPRM that is due later this month we 
> would like our members to complete a survey asking questions on your current 
> use of 3.65 spectrum and your plans for CBRS.   The survey was sent to the 
> WISPA principals email list today with the subject “WISPA CBRS Operator 
> Member Survey”.Please have your responses in by Monday night.
> 
> The FCC, and specifically Commissioner Carr, have said they want to see 
> objective economic data in support of our filings.  Commissioner Carr is very 
> critical to a good outcome for WISP’s in CBRS. If we assume both Democrats 
> will vote against it, one Republican will vote for it (since he wrote it), 
> and the other two are on the fence.  Good economic data is key to 
> Commissioner Carr’s vote.
> 
> Please complete the survey.  I does ask questions on subscriber numbers - the 
> data will be anonymous and used in aggregate.   Thank you for your assistance!
> 
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Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum

[Sean Heskett]

currently only 3.65-3.7GHz is available to use under part 90.

CBRS opens up an additional 100MHz from 3.55-3.65GHz and changes the 
3.65-3.7GHz from part 90 to CBRS

The "citizens band” naming of CBRS is a poorly chosen name by the FCC and has 
nothing to do with the old “trucker” CB band.


Sean Heskett

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970-846-8065 - mobile
866-903-4628 - Fax
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> On Dec 6, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Jan Van Kort  wrote:
> 
> I use that now, where does CBRS get tied to 3.6 equipment?  I read the fcc 
> blurb on cbrs and they didn't cover 3.6, only mentioned cb radios and 40 
> channels.  Didn't know anybody still used that stuff, grew out of that 40 
> years ago.
> 
> On 2017-12-06 03:05 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>> CBRS is the 3.55-3.7GHz band (not 2.6-2.7) 
>> 
>> and yes there’s lots of equipment ready to use the band.  cambium canopy and 
>> all the LTE vendors have product.
>> 
>> Sean Heskett
>> 
>> ZIRKEL Wireless 
>> High-Speed Internet for NW Colorado
>> 970-871-8500 x100 - Office
>> 970-846-8065 - mobile
>> 866-903-4628 - Fax
>> Website <http://www.zirkelwireless.com/> | Facebook 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/zirkelwireless> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Jan Van Kort >> <mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CBRS? is there any wisp equipment available in the 2.6-2.7Mhz band?  Do you 
>>> really think a Verizon schill in charge of the FCC is going to give a crap 
>>> about what the citizens/tax-payers need or want?  The only thing he might 
>>> respect is a law-suit.  Protests would only help him laugh.
>>> 
>>> On 2017-12-06 02:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>> Too many mailing lists, and it doesn’t help that most of mine sort into 
>>>> the same folder so it’s hard to tell which list a given posting is on.
>>>> 
>>>> I sent it to members just now.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Rick Harnish >>>> <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark, <>
>>>>>  
>>>>> Just curious, why was this not posted to memb...@wispa.org 
>>>>> <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>.  My experience tells me that this list is not 
>>>>> populated with near as many people as the members list is.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>  
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rick Harnish
>>>>>  
>>>>> Director of WISP Markets
>>>>>  
>>>>> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
>>>>> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>>>>>  
>>>>> rick.harn...@baicells.com <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com>
>>>>> www.facebook.com/baicells <http://www.facebook.com/baicells>
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
>>>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 4:11 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and 
>>>>> every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> The feedback we are getting back from DC is that certain parties at the 
>>>>> FCC noticed our #CBRS tags but didn’t think it was getting much traction. 
>>>>>So… time to ramp it up.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Matt Hoppes 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Do you really think this is going to do anything though? It's very easy 
>>>>>> to post something like this on Facebook, but I feel like it really 
>>>>>> doesn't have any actual affect.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind of like some of the protesters we've seen in recent months and 
>>>>>> years where

Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum

[Sean Heskett]

CBRS is the 3.55-3.7GHz band (not 2.6-2.7) 

and yes there’s lots of equipment ready to use the band.  cambium canopy and 
all the LTE vendors have product.

Sean Heskett

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970-846-8065 - mobile
866-903-4628 - Fax
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<http://www.facebook.com/zirkelwireless> 

> On Dec 6, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Jan Van Kort  wrote:
> 
> CBRS? is there any wisp equipment available in the 2.6-2.7Mhz band?  Do you 
> really think a Verizon schill in charge of the FCC is going to give a crap 
> about what the citizens/tax-payers need or want?  The only thing he might 
> respect is a law-suit.  Protests would only help him laugh.
> 
> On 2017-12-06 02:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>> Too many mailing lists, and it doesn’t help that most of mine sort into the 
>> same folder so it’s hard to tell which list a given posting is on.
>> 
>> I sent it to members just now.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Rick Harnish >> <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mark, <>
>>>  
>>> Just curious, why was this not posted to memb...@wispa.org 
>>> <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>.  My experience tells me that this list is not 
>>> populated with near as many people as the members list is.
>>>  
>>> Respectfully,
>>>  
>>> --
>>> Rick Harnish
>>>  
>>> Director of WISP Markets
>>>  
>>> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
>>> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>>>  
>>> rick.harn...@baicells.com <mailto:rick.harn...@baicells.com>
>>> www.facebook.com/baicells <http://www.facebook.com/baicells>
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 4:11 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and 
>>> every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> The feedback we are getting back from DC is that certain parties at the FCC 
>>> noticed our #CBRS tags but didn’t think it was getting much traction.
>>> So… time to ramp it up.
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Matt Hoppes >>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Do you really think this is going to do anything though? It's very easy to 
>>>> post something like this on Facebook, but I feel like it really doesn't 
>>>> have any actual affect.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind of like some of the protesters we've seen in recent months and years 
>>>> where you have to ask yourself it's great that you have an opinion but is 
>>>> your protest really doing anything.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 09:02, Mark Radabaugh >>> <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> You all screamed a month ago when the CBRS order came out and wanted to 
>>>>> do something about it.   NOW IS THE TIME, and very few of you are 
>>>>> participating.   Please follow the instructions below.   
>>>>> This isn’t that difficult.  If you can’t figure it out, ask the youngest 
>>>>> person on your staff.
>>>>>  
>>>>>   The FCC is laughing at us - they know they sucked all the 
>>>>> air out of the room with Network Neutrality and they intentionally timed 
>>>>> the publication and comment deadlines for CBRS to bury them in the NN 
>>>>> controversy and the holidays.   And it’s working for them.
>>>>>  
>>>>> PLEASE post comments on your business and/or personal accounts on 
>>>>> Twitter, Facebook, and/or LinkedIn in support of CBRS.
>>>>>  
>>>>> 1)Be part of our Twitter campaign: Take a clear picture of a rural or 
>>>>> small-town location near you that could be better served with fixed 
>>>>> wireless and CBRS spectrum. Upload it to your social media account with 
>>>>> language like the following. 

Re: [WISPA] LinkNYC

[Sean Heskett]

And then this happened lol :-/

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/nyregion/internet-browsers-to-be-disabled-on-new-yorks-free-wi-fi-kiosks.html

-Sean



On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:39 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

>
>
> Anyone has info on this project? Specially who is the fiber provider ?
>
> Visited NYC last week and was able to see how the project is advancing,
> saw more than 40+ kiosks, all providing free-no holds barred Wifi, several
> speedtests I ran were in the 100 Mbps+
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> From: Gino Villarini 
> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 10:58 AM
> To: Gino Villarini 
> Subject: Dd
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for a switch...

[Sean Heskett]

Planet


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 6:47 PM Blair Davis  wrote:

> Looking for a good rack mount unmanaged switch with at least thirty (30)
> 10/100/1000 ports and at least 1 SPF optical port for 1G.
>
> Don't need or want POE or any special features not listed above.
>
> Vendors, feel free to email me a link...
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Re: [WISPA] 10 gig Switch

[Sean Heskett]

planet


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Bob Moldashel 
wrote:

> Anyone have any suggestions for a cheap switch I can plug 10 gig GBIC into
> and use for testing new 5 and 10 GiGE radios with.  Looking for used, ugly,
> bulky, etc. Most of all looking for cheap.  Strictly testing. Not real
> world environment.
>
> Tnx
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450, 450m, and epmp in 5.X GHz Comparison

[Sean Heskett]

it's a non issue.

the 450m is designed in every way for high density, high capacity
deployment.

-sean


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

> I understand that, but sm on the rear of a panel can interfere with it if
> there is freq overlap.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Seth Mattinen 
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/17 09:31, Marco Coelho wrote:
>> > Those using the 450m, are you having to put anything behind the to
>> > increase the F/B ratio instead of physical separation?
>> >
>>
>>
>> The sectors hearing each other isn't really an issue with GPS sync since
>> they will all TX at the same time.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Sean Heskett]

I hope they incorporate that feature...and also the feature to replace all
the comcast and century link commercials lol.



On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 7:27 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Changing the subject to real choice tv , can we insert local commercials
> into that system?
>
> can i tag people in email?  Lol  @layne sisk...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chuck Hogg 
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??
>
> They just can't stop marketing to your customers.  Once you give them Dish
> Satellite, they will bundle in other services in the bills and continually
> blast them with commercials on all the channels they serve, including gift
> card offers, etc.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> The price includes support with server plus...so them.
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG  wrote:
>
> Who supports it, you or them?
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same
> as Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth
> capacity because our clients are already streaming video.
>
> As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and they
> can give you their pricing.
>
> We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub to
> our bottom line.
>
> -Sean
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell 
> wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and
> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.
>
> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
> streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to
> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
> the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
> failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
> just looking for feedback.
>
> Thank You in Advance!
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Sean Heskett]

on our demo account everything has been streaming HD.

the transport can be a deal breaker for sure but if you can meet them in
chicago (or a lot of other cities) for a layer 2 cross connect you are good
to go.

by the way, it's the content providers that are requiring the layer 2
connection instead of a layer 3.  they are trying to prevent leakage of
their content i guess.



On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> The deal killer so far for us has been needing transport to real choice
> instead of being able to use the Internet to deliver.
>
> Also the quality has not been the greatest in the demos we've seen.
>
> On Feb 14, 2017, at 17:41, Brian Young  wrote:
>
> Jan, CTI is an acronym for ConVergence Technologies, Inc.  I will have an
> account manager reach out off list.
>
> thank you
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 edge.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Jan-OOLLC 
> Date: 2/14/17 5:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??
>
> Been trying to make contact with Real Choice, they don't seem to call
> back.  It's a matter of adding 5-6Mbps to the client?  Is an additional
> server needed?  Who is CTI?
>
> Jan Van Kort
>
> Manager: Oregon Online, LLC
>
> PO Box 71, Coquille, OR 97423
>
> Office: 541-435-0509 <(541)%20435-0509>, Cell: 541-404-7001
> <(541)%20404-7001>
>
> 
>
> On 02/14/2017 01:31 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
> They just can't stop marketing to your customers.  Once you give them Dish
> Satellite, they will bundle in other services in the bills and continually
> blast them with commercials on all the channels they serve, including gift
> card offers, etc.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> The price includes support with server plus...so them.
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> Who supports it, you or them?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi William,
>>>
>>> The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same
>>> as Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth
>>> capacity because our clients are already streaming video.
>>>
>>> As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and
>>> they can give you their pricing.
>>>
>>> We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub
>>> to our bottom line.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell <
>>> cbardwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>>
>>> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and
>>> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
>>> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
>>> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
>>> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.
>>>
>>> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
>>> streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to
>>> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
>>> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
>>> the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
>>> failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
>>> just looking for feedback.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Sean Heskett]

The price includes support with server plus...so them.


-Sean


On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG  wrote:

> Who supports it, you or them?
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same
> as Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth
> capacity because our clients are already streaming video.
>
> As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and they
> can give you their pricing.
>
> We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub to
> our bottom line.
>
> -Sean
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell 
> wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and
> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.
>
> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
> streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to
> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
> the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
> failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
> just looking for feedback.
>
> Thank You in Advance!
>
> Scott Pope
> Network and Operations Officer
> Arbuckle Communications, LLC
> Office: 580-226-1234 <(580)%20226-1234>
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Sean Heskett]

Hi William,

The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same as
Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth
capacity because our clients are already streaming video.

As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and they
can give you their pricing.

We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub to
our bottom line.

-Sean

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell 
wrote:

> Sean,
>
> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and
> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.
>
> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
> streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to
> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
> the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
> failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
> just looking for feedback.
>
> Thank You in Advance!
>
> Scott Pope
> Network and Operations Officer
> Arbuckle Communications, LLC
> Office: 580-226-1234 <(580)%20226-1234>
> Mobile: 580-277-1108 <(580)%20277-1108>
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Sean Heskett]

Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.

We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.

-Sean



On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to
> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
> the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
> failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
> just looking for feedback.
>
> Thank You in Advance!
>
> Scott Pope
> Network and Operations Officer
> Arbuckle Communications, LLC
> Office: 580-226-1234
> Mobile: 580-277-1108
> www.arbucklecomm.com
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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Sean Heskett]

We've done a 6 mile link with 2' dishes without issues.  We are in NW
Colorado so we get some wicked thunderstorms in the summertime that drop
lots of water.  I probably wouldn't go much further than 6 miles with 2'
dishes though.

-Sean


On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:34 AM Sam Morris  wrote:

> At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
>
> with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
>
> zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Ghz License

[Sean Heskett]

+ 1 bazillion

use unlicensed and licensed lite (aka 3.65) for PMP and part 101 licensed
for PTP backhaul.  if it's short distances then use 24ghz which is
unlicensed PTP spectrum.

2 cents

-sean



On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> Want some serious advice ?
>
> Do yourself a favor, and try to break the addiction of using un-licened
> freq for backhaul...
> hold your self in, and explore the world of licensed links... even if you
> can only afford to by equipment on the used market space..
>
> Believe me, you will sleep better, and focus on the side of your business
> where it counts
> The outlay has a tremendous ROI.
>
> Rough numbers...
>
> Coordination cost   sub $700
> FCC license cost   $500 / site
> Hardware  (realistic / reasonable spend)  $3000  to $6000 for a
> complete link
> and this will give you roughly 300meg duplex (more or less depending on
> equipment, freq and channel etc etc).
>
> :)
>
> Best of luck, and my apologies for not answering your direct question.
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
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> *From: *"Chadwick Wachs" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Friday, November 18, 2016 11:09:41 AM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] 3.65 Ghz License
>
> We are considering the purchase of a 3.65 license from an existing license
> holder who is not using it. We would be using it for a handful of backhauls
> to get off of crowded 5GHz space.  However, I'm not sure if this is a smart
> move (buying a 3.65 license) and wanted some insight from those who have
> much more knowledge on where the FCC is going with this and what the likely
> value of a 3.65 license will be both today and next year (?) when the
> licenses are potentially opened back up.
> It looks like these licenses, at least in my area, are selling between
> $500 and $2000.  It sounds like $1,000 tends to be about the sweet spot for
> the few that have sold around here.
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Re: [WISPA] MDU Ethernet Switch

[Sean Heskett]

we've always used https://planetechusa.com

planet switches are easy to use, very affordable and you can get them in
industrial versions that are temp hardened.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Colton Conor  wrote:

> Sean,
>
> Which distributor do you recommend for planet switches?
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> planet
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Colton Conor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in need of a recommendation for a small Ethernet switch for an MDU
>>> applications. This is a garden style community where each building has
>>> between 4 to 8 units inside of the building. There are 15  buildings on the
>>> property. We would run a new CAT6 drop from a central point in the building
>>> to each unit. This central point would either be in the attic, or on the
>>> side of the exterior wall in some type of enclosure.
>>>
>>>  Then we would run fiber uplink from each building's switch to a headend
>>> room. The headend room would have the aggergation fiber switch, a router,
>>> and an uplink to the internet.
>>>
>>> We would hand a copper Ethernet hand off to the client in a unit, and
>>> then the could use whatever router they wanted, or plug their computer in
>>> directly to the wall.
>>>
>>> I think all I need is a switch per building (not a router), and ideally
>>> this switch needs to have:
>>>
>>> - At Least 1 SFP fiber uplink port. 2 would be nice for daisy chaining,
>>> but not required.
>>> - 4 to 8 Copper Gigabit Ports. I don't need POE output power on these
>>> ports.
>>> - SNMP For remote monitoring
>>> - CLI or some sort of web based remote management
>>> - Temperature Hardened or able to be in a hot attic
>>> - Some sort of L2 port isolation or private vlans where other
>>> subscribers can see each other. All traffic goes in and out of uplink
>>> - Rate limiting for each individual port
>>> - Full duplex speed and wireline switching is preferred.
>>> - We be nice to be remotely powered using PoE in, but not required.
>>> Might be hard however to get power to the attic or side of building.
>>>
>>>
>>> So far, options that come to mind are:
>>>
>>> https://routerboard.com/RB260GS for $36. Looks like a good option, but
>>> not sure about SwitchOS. Worried Mikrotik won't continue to improve
>>> switchOS. Feature set seems limited. Not sure about port isolation options?
>>> Says it support Poe-In for power. Temp range looks good. No CLI.
>>>
>>> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x-sfp/ $72. Double the price of
>>> the Mikrotik. OS seems more robust. Seem more like a router than switch so
>>> might be overkill for application. NO Poe-IN power option, but could I used
>>> a passive poe injector to still power it remotely?
>>>
>>> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgepoint/ The EP-R6 is about $105. Looks
>>> like its basically the edgerouter-x-sfp but in an outdoor case, and this
>>> model supports PoE Input. This smaller unit doesn't seem to have any fiber
>>> slack management like the other units in the edgepoint lineup. Includes POE
>>> injector to power unit.
>>>
>>> I was thinking maybe a GPON ONT per building that has 4 to 8 Ethernet
>>> ports on it. However, there are no small GPON OLTs out there. Plus, most
>>> outdoor ONT's are like $250+ each.
>>>
>>>
>>> What else is out there? I would say price range would be sub $200 per
>>> building max.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] MDU Ethernet Switch

[Sean Heskett]

planet


On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Colton Conor 
wrote:

> I am in need of a recommendation for a small Ethernet switch for an MDU
> applications. This is a garden style community where each building has
> between 4 to 8 units inside of the building. There are 15  buildings on the
> property. We would run a new CAT6 drop from a central point in the building
> to each unit. This central point would either be in the attic, or on the
> side of the exterior wall in some type of enclosure.
>
>  Then we would run fiber uplink from each building's switch to a headend
> room. The headend room would have the aggergation fiber switch, a router,
> and an uplink to the internet.
>
> We would hand a copper Ethernet hand off to the client in a unit, and then
> the could use whatever router they wanted, or plug their computer in
> directly to the wall.
>
> I think all I need is a switch per building (not a router), and ideally
> this switch needs to have:
>
> - At Least 1 SFP fiber uplink port. 2 would be nice for daisy chaining,
> but not required.
> - 4 to 8 Copper Gigabit Ports. I don't need POE output power on these
> ports.
> - SNMP For remote monitoring
> - CLI or some sort of web based remote management
> - Temperature Hardened or able to be in a hot attic
> - Some sort of L2 port isolation or private vlans where other subscribers
> can see each other. All traffic goes in and out of uplink
> - Rate limiting for each individual port
> - Full duplex speed and wireline switching is preferred.
> - We be nice to be remotely powered using PoE in, but not required. Might
> be hard however to get power to the attic or side of building.
>
>
> So far, options that come to mind are:
>
> https://routerboard.com/RB260GS for $36. Looks like a good option, but
> not sure about SwitchOS. Worried Mikrotik won't continue to improve
> switchOS. Feature set seems limited. Not sure about port isolation options?
> Says it support Poe-In for power. Temp range looks good. No CLI.
>
> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x-sfp/ $72. Double the price of
> the Mikrotik. OS seems more robust. Seem more like a router than switch so
> might be overkill for application. NO Poe-IN power option, but could I used
> a passive poe injector to still power it remotely?
>
> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgepoint/ The EP-R6 is about $105. Looks
> like its basically the edgerouter-x-sfp but in an outdoor case, and this
> model supports PoE Input. This smaller unit doesn't seem to have any fiber
> slack management like the other units in the edgepoint lineup. Includes POE
> injector to power unit.
>
> I was thinking maybe a GPON ONT per building that has 4 to 8 Ethernet
> ports on it. However, there are no small GPON OLTs out there. Plus, most
> outdoor ONT's are like $250+ each.
>
>
> What else is out there? I would say price range would be sub $200 per
> building max.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

[Sean Heskett]

good to hear you had success!

i'd prefer to do fiber as well but until all vendors support it the need
for using copper exists.

-sean


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Chadwick Wachs 
wrote:

> Wanted to circle back on this with results.  Bought a 100' section of
> metal lined LiquidTight at Home Depot (3/4" since I only needed 2 cables).
> The 100' section was exactly the right length to get from the antennas all
> the way to my cabinet in the machine room so now the cables are protected
> in the cable trays down below as well.
>
> Used hose clamps to attach the conduit to the tower every ~6 feet. Since I
> had to make 2 90 degree turns on the way down, the flexible conduit was
> great.  I did pull my two Ethernet wires through the conduit while it was
> on the ground - figured that would be much easier - and it was. Cable is
> Ubiquiti Carrier Shielded (the double shielded version).  I also added the
> ends with the grounding cable and grounded both the top and the bottom of
> the Ethernet to a good ground.
>
> Been up for about two weeks now with no Ethernet issues at all. Did not
> put Ferrites on these two cables like all the rest of mine have.  I still
> get an occasional Ethernet packet drop or error on the Ferrited cables. So
> far, solid on the two cables in the LiquidTight.
>
> Yes, fiber is still a better long term solution but this was fairly
> inexpensive and quick and is working great.  Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> my bad, i was answering late in the evening, i was thinking PVC when you
>> said EMT.  EMT will work too since it's metal but it's hard to work with on
>> a tower.  the 3/4" liquidtight that you linked to will fit 3 cables.  we
>> usually run 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" (i can't remember which at the moment) and you
>> can fit 13 cables in it.  we run it up to a box on the tower and then use
>> 3/4" to run from the box to the individual APs or backhauls.  we run the
>> conduit first and then drop the ethernet cables down from the top.
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Chadwick Wachs 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting... Certainly easier to run.  Because I have to make two 90
>>> degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through
>>> it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it.  I'm
>>> guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull
>>> windows) on it is a bad idea from an RF standpoint?
>>>
>>> My local HD has this in stock:
>>>
>>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-100-ft
>>> -Liquidtight-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-6203-30-00/202262413
>>>
>>> That looks what you describe.
>>>
>>> I have to ask - from a physics(?) standpoint, what keeps RF out of the
>>> Liquidtight but not EMT?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.
>>>> EMT will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.
>>>>
>>>> We've done it on several towers with great success.
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to
>>>>> solve the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on
>>>>> each end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need 
>>>>> to
>>>>> add a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like
>>>>> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long
>>>>> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp
>>>>> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service
>>>>> loops at the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> do have longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables
>>>>> are longer than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting
>>>>> Ferrites on the cables that are in the

Re: [WISPA] Intermapper Probes

[Sean Heskett]

I would be interested in these as well.  I'd be willing to help pay if
their development if necessary.

-Sean


On Monday, September 12, 2016, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> Looking to get some probes developed,
>
> Cambim 450
> Epmp
> AF24
> AF5x
> Mimosa
>
> Anyone have probes for this devices or its available for write them for us?
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

[Sean Heskett]

my bad, i was answering late in the evening, i was thinking PVC when you
said EMT.  EMT will work too since it's metal but it's hard to work with on
a tower.  the 3/4" liquidtight that you linked to will fit 3 cables.  we
usually run 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" (i can't remember which at the moment) and you
can fit 13 cables in it.  we run it up to a box on the tower and then use
3/4" to run from the box to the individual APs or backhauls.  we run the
conduit first and then drop the ethernet cables down from the top.

-sean


On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Chadwick Wachs  wrote:

> Interesting... Certainly easier to run.  Because I have to make two 90
> degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through
> it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it.  I'm
> guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull
> windows) on it is a bad idea from an RF standpoint?
>
> My local HD has this in stock:
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-
> 100-ft-Liquidtight-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-6203-30-00/202262413
>
> That looks what you describe.
>
> I have to ask - from a physics(?) standpoint, what keeps RF out of the
> Liquidtight but not EMT?
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.  EMT
>> will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.
>>
>> We've done it on several towers with great success.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve
>>> the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on each
>>> end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to add
>>> a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>>>
>>> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like
>>> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long
>>> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp
>>> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service loops
>>> at the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. I do
>>> have longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables are
>>> longer than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting Ferrites
>>> on the cables that are in the conduit.
>>>
>>> Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV
>>> stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower"
>>> power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for
>>> Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice.
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

[Sean Heskett]

If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.  EMT
will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.

We've done it on several towers with great success.

-Sean

On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs  wrote:

> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve
> the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on each
> end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to add
> a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit.
>
> This is not my area of expertise but from what I read, it sounds like
> running conduit up the tower (only 75' for my antennas) is the best long
> term solution?  My plan was to buy some 3/4" EMT in 10' sections and clamp
> it to the tower from bottom to top and run my shielded cables inside of
> that.
>
> Is that the route to go?  I am guessing I want to keep my service loops at
> the top of the conduit pretty short or I negate what I just did. I do have
> longer loops at the bottom in the building so my Ethernet cables are longer
> than my antenna ground wires. I'm planning on not putting Ferrites on the
> cables that are in the conduit.
>
> Tower has 5 FM stations on it, a 900mhz paging company and two UHF DTV
> stations - along with some other 5 Ghz stuff.  The FM stations are "lower"
> power (250 - 400 watts) but it sounds like those are the culprit for
> Ethernet issues (other than AM which is no where near this tower).
>
> Thanks for the advice.
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Re: [WISPA] High-Rise Building Rooftop Grounding

[Sean Heskett]

FYI Structural steel is not a proper electrical ground



On Monday, August 22, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Any structural steel nearby?
>
>
>
> -
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> *From: *"Chris Fabien"  >
> *To: *"WISPA General List"  >
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 20, 2016 3:56:02 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] High-Rise Building Rooftop Grounding
>
> We are quoting the installation of two 5ft tall Non-Pen mounts with some
> small dish antennas as part of a security camera project. I am trying to
> determine what is required by code for grounding these masts and the cat5
> lines to the radios where they enter the rooftop mechanical building.
>
> It is an older 10-story apartment tower. I did not pay very close
> attention to grounding when I was on site, I do not believe there is any
> sort of lightning rod system. There is an elevator mechanical room on the
> roof, where we will be installing a small POE switch to power the APs.
> Hoping someone on the list has done this before and can tell me what is
> required.
>
> Chris Fabien
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Re: [WISPA] High-Rise Building Rooftop Grounding

[Sean Heskett]

Try to find an electrical ground that is already up there for an air
conditioner or the elevator equipment.  Cold water pipe is good too as long
as it doesn't turn into PVC pipe somewhere along the way to the ground.

-Sean

On Saturday, August 20, 2016, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> We are quoting the installation of two 5ft tall Non-Pen mounts with some
> small dish antennas as part of a security camera project. I am trying to
> determine what is required by code for grounding these masts and the cat5
> lines to the radios where they enter the rooftop mechanical building.
>
> It is an older 10-story apartment tower. I did not pay very close
> attention to grounding when I was on site, I do not believe there is any
> sort of lightning rod system. There is an elevator mechanical room on the
> roof, where we will be installing a small POE switch to power the APs.
> Hoping someone on the list has done this before and can tell me what is
> required.
>
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
>
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Re: [WISPA] 13.4 canopy sw

[Sean Heskett]

13.4.1 is the latest and greatest and is very stable for PMP100 and PMP430.

-sean


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

> Any negative issues with the 13.4 firmware for the pmp100 series
>
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Re: [WISPA] cambium 450 real 90 degree panels

[Sean Heskett]

http://www.kpperformance.ca/5ghz-90-degree-17-5-dbi-sector

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

>
> Does anyone have some recommendations for this?  Cambiums 90° antenna is
> actually a 65° antenna.  My definition of a sector is 3db down at the edge
> of the main lobe.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] FM Radio interference

[Sean Heskett]

i prefer liquidtight because the metal shield is protected by an outside
coating.  this keeps it both water tight and prevents it from becoming a
giant conductor should it happen to touch a live wire somehow.

you can buy it at any local electrical supply shop

-sean

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Nick Bright  wrote:

> On 7/14/2016 3:43 PM, Nick Bright wrote:
> > On 7/14/2016 3:35 PM, Shawn C. Peppers wrote:
> >> Fiber with direct dc power to a edgepoint that is inside a metal
> enclosure.  Save yourself the hassle because you will always have problems
> if you do not.  Put your cables out of the edgepoint to the radios in
> flexible EMT or MC conduct.
> >>
> >> Shawn C. Peppers
> > That's probably the best solution, over using ferrites.
> >
> > There is also the option of CAT5e with corrugated copper shielding, but
> > MC conduit would be cheaper.
> >
> For anybody wondering, it looks like this type of armoring without
> pre-installed copper wires is referred to as "Flexible EMT" not MC.
>
> There are both Aluminum and Steel products available
>
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-100-ft-Flexible-Aluminum-Conduit-5603-30-AFC/204847343
>
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-1-2-in-x-100-ft-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-5502-30-AFC/204847339
>
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-8-in-x-100-ft-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-5501-30-AFC/205070919
>
> 3/4" should fit 4 or maybe 5 shielded cat5e cables. It looks like, from
> the specs, a single shireen 5e shielded cable would fit with about .2"
> extra room in the 3/8" version.
>
> Shaun, what are your thoughts of liquid tight vs standard? Which do you
> use? Does anybody see any issues with capacitance changes in the
> shielding when it's wet, if not using liquid tight?
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Re: [WISPA] FM Radio interference

[Sean Heskett]

we have had good luck with shielded cable inside liquidtight conduit, but
even then sometimes it doesn't work.

fiber is the only way to truly "fix" the problem.

also we could that grounding the cables only at the bottom helped (instead
of at the top and bottom).

-sean


On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Marco Coelho  wrote:

> I have an existing tower that has a FM transmitter on it.  I believe they
> are just under 10,000 Watts.
> Since we have been one that tower, I could never link up Ethernet that
> runs up the tower to the equipment on the bottom at 100BT.  I've tried
> ferrite rings on both ends, all cables are shielded and grounded.  Always
> had to go to 10BT to get a link.
>
> I moved our radios 35 feet away from the bottom their antennas and still
> cannot link at 100BT.
>
> The new radios require 1000BT too use them to full advantage.  Ideas?
>
> I'm considering conduit all the way up the tower.  I don't want to put
> switches at the top.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Climbing Requirements

[Sean Heskett]

we use these guys to train our employees http://safetyoneinc.com

we are in colorado and their headquarters are in Denver so it's convenient
to send people there for training.  There are a lot of other companies that
provide training and many of them are WISPA members.

I'd highly recommend training!!!  if you don't want to send a bunch of
people you can send one guy to get trained as a trainer for your company
and then he can come back and train the rest of the crew.



On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Tim Way  wrote:

> Any handy links by chance? I appreciate the quick response.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> you have to follow OSHA rules.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Tim Way  wrote:
>>
>>> How does one find out the legal requirements for performing tower
>>> climbing in a locality? I am located in Brown County, WI and I can't seem
>>> to drum up an intelligible Google search that finds me the answer or anyone
>>> at my local county offices that talk to me.
>>>
>>> I'm interested in knowing:
>>>
>>>- What kind of training or certifications might be needed
>>>- Which government offices that I would need to register with
>>>- Like which level of government, federal, state, county/city and
>>>   which offices
>>>- Are there break points where you either need training or don't
>>>- Example: for a tower under 50 feet you can do it yourself without
>>>   any requirements vs a tower over 50 feet you need to do x, y and z 
>>> things
>>>   to be legal. (totally made up situation but you get it)
>>>- Anything else you experienced folks happen to know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Climbing Requirements

[Sean Heskett]

you have to follow OSHA rules.



On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Tim Way  wrote:

> How does one find out the legal requirements for performing tower climbing
> in a locality? I am located in Brown County, WI and I can't seem to drum up
> an intelligible Google search that finds me the answer or anyone at my
> local county offices that talk to me.
>
> I'm interested in knowing:
>
>- What kind of training or certifications might be needed
>- Which government offices that I would need to register with
>- Like which level of government, federal, state, county/city and
>   which offices
>- Are there break points where you either need training or don't
>- Example: for a tower under 50 feet you can do it yourself without
>   any requirements vs a tower over 50 feet you need to do x, y and z 
> things
>   to be legal. (totally made up situation but you get it)
>- Anything else you experienced folks happen to know.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

[Sean Heskett]

In Colorado and many other states with "make my day" laws you can most
certainly be shot :-/

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015,  wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:27:13 -0600 (CST)
>   Mike Hammett > wrote:
> > A WISP doesn't own (or lease) everywhere. A company owns or leases their
> corporate space.
> >
> > If a Russian or Chinese spy snuck a MiFi into Lockheed Skunkworks and
> somehow passed their other forms of security, you'd be
> >okay with them chugging away uploading whatever they found?
> >
>
> If I tried to climb over the fence into a secure Lockheed facility I run
> the very real risk of being shot!  Surely your not
> asserting that you have the same right when someone climbs over your back
> fence . When National Security is asserted the
> rules change.
>
> The FCC has a history of being fairly draconian when they smell "harmful
> interference". (I've always guessed it's personal
> to them because your playing with their toys. ;-)
> It's always a bad idea to expect to reason with a bureaucrat. It's either
> OK or not. It's all in the book.
> If you have a very deep back pocket you can try and get it in front of a
> judge and argue the merits but they
> tend to defer to the regulators.
>
> Larry Ash
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
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> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> >From: "Dennis Burgess" >
> > To: "WISPA General List" >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
> >
> >
> >
> > While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do
> this, for the security of a WISP, we will shut down all
> >Access Points via Deauth attack that my Access Points can see. Also note,
> I am not talking for the FCC, but for what I believe is
> >right, in this case, you can’t own a location or area of the wifi bands,
> therefore, you can’t cause harmful interference, and a
> >deauth attack would be harmful, and interference.
> >
> > I can agree that you can detect it and shut it off on a port on your
> network, but you should not be able to interfere with other
> >operations, regardless if it is your property or not. Maybe that’s not
> the intent from those actions, but it’s clear that if it’s
> >not on your network then you can’t do much about it. Now, if they are on
> your property, sure you can tell them to turn it off or
> >leave, but that’s another issue. lol
> >
> >
> > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> > den...@linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
> >
> >
> >
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  [mailto:
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:02 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
> >
> >
> > There is no mention of a blanket refusal. In the FCC citation, the fact
> that they're charging for Internet access is brought up
> >every time the deauthing activity is.
> >
> > https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-329743A1.pdf
> >
> > https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1444A1.pdf
> >
> > In reading that second one, they also keep bringing up that Marriott
> charged for Internet (and a lot at that).
> >
> > "Specifically, such employees had used this capability to prevent users
> from connecting to the Internet via their own personal
> >Wi-Fi networks when these users did not pose a threat to the security of
> the Gaylord Opryland network or its guests."
> >
> > Sounds like security is a viable defense.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
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> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> >
> >From: "Dennis Burgess" < dmburg...@linktechs.net  >
> > To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org  >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:43:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
> > You cannot do it at all….
> >
> >
> > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> > den...@linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
> >
> >
> >
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  [ mailto:
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org  ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:06 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
> >
> >
> > You can do it all day long within your own company. Marriott was doing
> it to force people to give them money. A company doing it
> >has plenty of other reasons.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: "Dennis Burgess" < dmburg...@linktechs.net  >
> > To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org  >
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
> > Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been
> deemed illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I
> >think due to it.
> >
> >
> > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Lin

Re: [WISPA] Tower mounting

[Sean Heskett]

wbmfg.com M-TOW-3P-48

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Larry A. Weidig  wrote:
>
> Most of the time we have been using 120 sectors, but we are planning some
> new deployments with 90 degree sectors instead.  Since most of the towers
> we are on had three "legs" it made 120 degree mounting pretty simple - one
> antenna per leg.  What sort of mounting are people using for 4 sectors on
> these same towers.  I am thinking something like the WiMAX tower mounts at
> Site1Pro might be the right solution:
>
> http://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list&c=633
>
> But as I know, this list is full of knowledge and somebody likely has a
> great answer waiting for us.  Thanks!
>
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Re: [WISPA] I need to monitor bandwidth usage

[Sean Heskett]

Cacti

Cactiez is a easy install cd that will format the drive, install Linux and
all the cacti software etc

On Monday, December 1, 2014, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  I need an inexpensive means to keep track of under 100 clients bandwidth
> usage.
> Any suggestions?
> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Solar setup recommendations...

[Sean Heskett]

You'll need to do some math first.

How many watts of power do you need, multiply by 24 to get your daily
usage.  Add in some buffer if you think this site will expand (it probably
will).  For instance say your draw is 100watts * 24 = 2400watts.  In
Florida on dec 21st you should have 5 hours sunlight available (there are
government charts that can tell you exactly what to expect) 2400/5=480watts
this is your array size (solar panels)

Once you have your daily usage, how many days do you want to run with no
sunlight??
in Florida you will probably only need a couple days.  2400 * 2 = 4800watt
hours ( you need to double this since you don't want the batteries to go
below 50%) 4800*2= 9600watt hours.  This is your storage capacity
(batteries)

So for panels you want to shop for 500-600watts of panels.  Three 200watt
24vdc panels should be fine or two 250watt panels. It all depends on how
much expansion you want this site to be able to handle.

For batteries we us UB4D sealed batts.  They are 210amp 12vdc = 2,520 watt
hours.  So you'll need 4.  Connect 2 in series, 2 others in series and then
those 2 banks in parallel (to get to 24vdc)

For charge controllers I really like the Morningstar tri-star MPPT
chargers.  But any MPPT controller is fine.

Be sure to fuse and breaker everything!!!

We usually buy from wholesalesolar.com they have decent prices and they
will answer all your questions and find you all the right parts etc.

Good luck!

Sean

p.s.  The above calculations were based on assumptions like 100watts of
draw, 2 days of runtime in Florida etc.  you'll need to adjust accordingly
to your needs.



On Monday, December 1, 2014, Scott Carullo 
wrote:

> I have a new site that needs to be powered by solar.  Needs to run a MT
> 2011 router and 4 UBNT rocket 5Ghz radios.  Would like it to be 24v based
> since that is what all the equipment requires.  Also a battery
> recommendation would be super, controller etc.  Its all being mounted
> outside on a pipe which is chain mounted to a monopole tower at 60ft.  Just
> need the shopping list to make this happen.  I appreciate your input and
> your time, thanks.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Sean Heskett]

pretty much as fast as you can click the check box

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Instant on being genuinely instant?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> You can turn aws on and off as needed.  You just click a button on a web
>> page and it's instant on.  You can also schedule it to turn on and off
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any idea what AWS would cost for something like this?  I feel like it
>>> would eat lots of resources all day every day and I'd only use it a couple
>>> of hours a week tops.  It would be annoying to shut it down to save
>>> resources, too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Carlos Alcantar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   You could also go the vm route using aws / rackspace / ect.  I’ve
>>>> heard from some people that the online quickbooks is not as full featured
>>>> as the application version.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Carlos Alcantar
>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
>>>>
>>>>   From: Josh Luthman 
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>>> Date: Monday, November 24, 2014 at 12:24 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>>>>
>>>>   Well I guess $50/month to drop the one Windows server seems worth it
>>>> to me.  Hopefully it's an easy transition (lol I know it's Intuit).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I have 3 clients that use it.  They love it.   Able to access it
>>>>> from any web device anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I use the Enterprise Edition any I love my windows servers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>>>
>>>>> GM
>>>>>
>>>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Howard LLC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 3:19 PM
>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw that in a quick search, but I'm curious if you or anyone is
>>>>> using it.  Happy?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Steve Barnes 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://quickbooks.intuit.com/online/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>>>
>>>>> GM
>>>>>
>>>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Howard LLC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 3:12 PM
>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>>>> *Subject:* [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a good source to host Quickbooks?  I'm tired of
>>>>> hosting it myself and I would love to drop that Windows server like a bad
>>>>> habit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm currently using Quickbooks Pro 2014 on a Windows terminal server.
>>>>> I would like to be able to have 2 active concurrent users unless there's 
>>>>> an
>>>>> additional recurring cost to this - in that case just 1 user is 
>>>>> sufficient.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Sean Heskett]

You can turn aws on and off as needed.  You just click a button on a web
page and it's instant on.  You can also schedule it to turn on and off

On Monday, November 24, 2014, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Any idea what AWS would cost for something like this?  I feel like it
> would eat lots of resources all day every day and I'd only use it a couple
> of hours a week tops.  It would be annoying to shut it down to save
> resources, too.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Carlos Alcantar  > wrote:
>
>>   You could also go the vm route using aws / rackspace / ect.  I’ve
>> heard from some people that the online quickbooks is not as full featured
>> as the application version.
>>
>>
>>  Carlos Alcantar
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com
>>  / http://www.race.com
>>
>>   From: Josh Luthman > >
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List > >
>> Date: Monday, November 24, 2014 at 12:24 PM
>> To: WISPA General List > >
>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>>
>>   Well I guess $50/month to drop the one Windows server seems worth it
>> to me.  Hopefully it's an easy transition (lol I know it's Intuit).
>>
>>
>>  Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Steve Barnes > > wrote:
>>
>>>  I have 3 clients that use it.  They love it.   Able to access it from
>>> any web device anywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I use the Enterprise Edition any I love my windows servers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>  [mailto:
>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 3:19 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I saw that in a quick search, but I'm curious if you or anyone is using
>>> it.  Happy?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Steve Barnes >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>  http://quickbooks.intuit.com/online/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Steven Barnes*
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>> PCSWIN.com
>>>
>>> Howard LLC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>  [mailto:
>>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 3:12 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a good source to host Quickbooks?  I'm tired of hosting
>>> it myself and I would love to drop that Windows server like a bad habit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm currently using Quickbooks Pro 2014 on a Windows terminal server.  I
>>> would like to be able to have 2 active concurrent users unless there's an
>>> additional recurring cost to this - in that case just 1 user is sufficient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?

[Sean Heskett]

also title II regulations are why an OC3 at 150Mbps costs 100 times as much
as 150Mbps metro ethernet.  Ethernet is unregulated, OC3 is part of the
whole terrified crap left over from MaBell etc.  So even though both
services are delivered over the same medium (fiber) because of the
technology used OC3 is heavily regulated while ethernet is not.

Title II will make internet access more expensive, not less.



On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Drew Lentz  wrote:

> I put up a quick poll, results will be shared and are anonymous.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3R6YTH9
>
> I'm curious to see what the percentages are between those that support and
> those that don't support the Title II argument. I've been trying to get a
> good feel for who would and wouldn't like it (mostly it seems carriers love
> it, web services hate it.) I have a feeling WISPs might be on the "hate it"
> side, but I'm interested to find out. Thanks for your answer and have a
> fantastic day!
>
> -d
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Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?

[Sean Heskett]

Title II is designed to breakup monopolies (i.e. Railroads, MaBell,
Electric, Gas etc.)  everyone acts like it is the "Holy Grail" of free
market capitalism to have the government step in and regulate everything
your company wants to do. 

I'm not a monopoly...I have done nothing to deserve heavy handed government
regulation oversight of everything i do.

This "Net Neutrality" BS is just that BS...They are trying to "fix" a
problem that doesn't exist yet.

The real problem is that consumers have only the CableCo and TelCo as
options for purchasing internet.  The government instead of regulating
should encourage competition in the free market.  WISPs are one such
competitor.

The government should also stop turning a blind eye to mergers like the
Comcast & Time Warner merger that only exacerbates the problem and will
lead us to the MaBell situation where you can get internet from one source
only.

2 Cents

-sean


On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Tim Way  wrote:

> Here is my confusion on this issue. Everyone is acting like it is the
> great harbinger for Internet companies. One of the biggest problems I have
> is lack of clear information. I'm not saying I have any of those answers
> for certainty but I will point a few things I have picked up meanwhile
> donning my flame proof cap.
>
>
>- Requires us to be able to provide per service reporting of traffic
>(I think of it as a port span or flow-analysis of a particular service
>user, which is fairly easy to do and you should already be able to do this)
>- Talks about potentially a 16% fee on service. This will not make you
>shut your doors big or small because every provider will have to do this
>and I can assure you in the long run no one is eating that cost but the
>consumer. Also this is fundamentally good for rural Americans. Rural areas
>have phone service because of that fund when used properly. Now it would
>include proper broadband access. This is the only risk I see to the WISP
>model. There is nothing that says you can't play both sides and become a
>participant in utilizing the USF to build out infrastructure even if that
>means doing scary things like diving into ground models like fiber.
>- The biggest one I have is fair treatment of traffic. To me this is
>the default way to run an ISP. I don't want an ISP that slows down certain
>traffic and I definitely don't want to be the service provider that does
>that. I'd rather see more guaranteed bandwidth numbers and a flatter
>pricing scheme even if that means a higher cost to the consumer. What I
>mean by that is if you deploy 100mbps of service to an area and you start
>signing up users and all the sudden you are promising everyone 20% over
>what you can provide them at the head-end don't use the words "up to" in
>your service agreement. Either adjust the service speeds to control the
>talking on a head-end radio or make adjustments to your architecture to
>accommodate the bursts in traffic. What that might mean is more smaller
>cells to service an area and yes that costs money. Nothing is free in this
>world so if it costs X dollars to provide Y services to consumers that want
>Y then such is life. No on complains when they need to upgrade their
>electrical service at home because they want to run more equipment or
>devices. If that means I as the consumer that wants to stream HD Netflix in
>4 rooms has to upgrade my service then so be it. The provider (You/Me) can
>then build out our infrastructure to accommodate that need at the cost you
>and your customer agree on or he/she just decides that their bandwidth
>needs doesn't match the price point to achieve what they are trying to do
>and goes back to buying DVDs through Amazon. This also works on the
>upstream, as a small WISP do you really want to be on the receiving end of
>a big provider possibly your only option for decent upstream connectivity
>to suddenly start slowing down certain types of traffic? Then you are faced
>with trying to provide a service that your customers might demand without
>any ability other than potentially an extremely expensive one to fill that
>need. I think it is always better to not shape traffic for customers. Let
>them manage their connection to the Internet. Instead for high throughput
>applications we should push for the option to deploy CDN like edge devices
>from these larger service providers if the actual throughput is not
>available or more costly.
>
> Alright I've got my flame retardant cap on let the replies flood in :)
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Sam Tetherow  wrote:
>
>>  I'm guessing that while the phone companies may not like the idea it
>> seems a little less onerous to them since they are already dealing with
>> Title II.  If nothing else it will weed out the smaller competition in
>> their eyes.
>>
>> While t

Re: [WISPA] When the power goes off

[Sean Heskett]

iOS has had repeat message alerts for years



On Monday, November 10, 2014, Scott  wrote:

> On 11/10/14, 1:43 PM, can...@believewireless.net  wrote:
> > Techs can sleep through a txt message though. A little more difficult to
> > sleep through a phone call but I do know it happens.
> >
>
> Android - Handcent SMS - Settings - Notification Settings - enable
> reminders - number of reminders "keep repeating", reminder frequency = 5
> minutes.   Then enable custom ringtone for the sender of the text
> message set to most annoying, loud song of whatever genre the tech does
> not like, enable vibrate.
>
> If the tech doesn't hear it, the tech's neighbor will.
>
> This is the primary functionality which caused me to go Android rather
> than iOS, years back.
>
> I may sleep through phone calls, I eventually wake up to this.
> Sometimes I wake up black and blue with my wife beating me. :-)
>
> --
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Re: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator??

[Sean Heskett]

Apc battery backup.  They will trim and boost for you.

We have a site that drops to 100vac in the winter when the heater kicks on
(old building and wiring :-/ )  the apc boost the load to 120.



On Monday, November 10, 2014, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>   We are having some issues lately on a couple of sites. AC mains is
> dropping below 90 vac, anyone recommends a good Voltage Regulator?
>
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
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Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

[Sean Heskett]

Porcera is a packet shaper

On Thursday, October 30, 2014, Tim Way  wrote:

> I agree with Paul on this one for sure. I don't know much about the
> Procera box but is their method support by Apple or is more of a
> traditional in-line proxy that intercepts and redirects the communication?
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Paul Conlin  > wrote:
>
>> Because management of Apple iOS updates is one big thing that Procera can
>> do to help optimize a WISPs network. But if you are running a low cost low
>> overhead Apple update caching server you could very easily do this without
>> an expensive Procera box.
>>
>> PC
>> Blaze Broadband
>>
>>
>> On October 30, 2014 5:33:59 PM EDT, Josh Reynolds > > wrote:
>>>
>>> Quick question,
>>>
>>> Maybe I missed something, but how did we go from traffic shaping and DPI
>>> devices to something that does caching for apple stuff? Those are two
>>> entirely different classes of products.
>>>
>>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>>  On 10/30/2014 01:30 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>  It can work on networks not behind a NAT.
>>>
>>> http://help.apple.com/serverapp/mac/4.0/#/apd6015d9573
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>  [
>>> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:38 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so it would be for networks behind a NAT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chris Wright" >> >
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" >> >
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:22:16 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>
>>> Disregard my “AFAIK” answer. This is the real answer per
>>> http://www.nbalonso.com/os-x-server-caching/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “The cache server registers online with Apple and provides it’s public
>>> IP, your servers local IP, internal DNS name? (not sure of the dns)”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>  [
>>> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:12 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I couldn't see how other people are supposed to know you have one of
>>> these caches running.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chris Wright" >> >
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" >> >
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:36 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>
>>> OSX Server is a $19.99 add-on to OSX Yosemite. You can virtualize OSX in
>>> ESXi (of course it won’t be supported by Apple unless it’s Apple hardware.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Chris Wright
>>>
>>> Velociter Wireless 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>  [
>>> mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Paul Conlin
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:57 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions does Apple put
>>> one of these in?
>>>
>>> PC
>>> Blaze Broadband
>>>
>>>  On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>  I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.
>>> The issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>  For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's
>>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates,
>>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is
>>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device
>>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server.
>>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has
>>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to
>>> our open (public) wireless network.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Tim Way
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
>>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
>>> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>>>
>>> In few words: those 

Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

[Sean Heskett]

Apple doesn't put one in but you can.  Just buy a mac mini server and it
has the included caching software.



On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Paul Conlin 
wrote:

> Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions does Apple put
> one of these in?
>
> PC
> Blaze Broadband
>
> On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>>
>> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
>> issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way > > wrote:
>>
>>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's
>>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates,
>>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is
>>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device
>>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server.
>>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has
>>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to
>>> our open (public) wireless network.
>>>
>>> Tim Way
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
>>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
 (and the experince you want to give to the users)

 In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
 improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
 with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.

 Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
 Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
 work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
 that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
 and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
 to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
 using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.

 For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)

 Just my 2 cents



 > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
 > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
 > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
 > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
 >
 > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
 > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
 >
 > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:
 wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 ]
 > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
 > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
 > *To:* WISPA General List
 > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
 >
 > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
 > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
 >
 >
 
 >
 > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
  >>> lwei...@excel.net >)
 > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
 > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
 >
 >
 
 >
 > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" >>>  >>> j...@spitwspots.com
 >>
 > *To: *wireless@wispa.org
  >>> wireless@wispa.org 
 >
 > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
 > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
 >
 > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
 >
 > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 
 >
 > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
 >
 > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
 > couple of what seem to be similar products available:
 >
 > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
 > they live up to their name :) )
 >
 > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
 >
 > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
 >
 > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
 > not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
 > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
 > time ago we used this
 >
 > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
 > difficult time justifying the 

Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software

[Sean Heskett]

Desk.com

It's part of salesforce so if you ever decide you want all the salesforce
features it's a simple upgrade.



On Saturday, August 16, 2014, Brian Wilson  wrote:

> What are people using for customer support ticketing software?
>
> We currently use a combination of pink notes and email.
> (and I wish I was joking.)
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Re: [WISPA] Air Force Base / KSC Launch RFI Question

[Sean Heskett]

dang that sucks.

i don't think they can require you to turn off your equipment but they
might cause so much interference for you that it might bring your network
down anyway.

perhaps they would fund you switching to the 5.4 band???

i am not a lawyer tho.  maybe Steve Cornan (WISPAs attorney) could help??

good luck, i'd be interested in knowing the outcome.

-sean


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> We operate between two local Air Force bases and near KSC as well.  We
> were notified recently that the AFB has resorted to using an older radar
> system that was previously retired due to the newer range radar system
> catching fire or something to that effect.  During the two months or so the
> repairs are expected to take we have had several space launches scheduled
> during this window from CCAFS / KSC.  The USAF has fired up the old radar
> and has recently contacted us asking about equipment we have in the area at
> customer premises.  I asked the frequency coordinator what freq their radar
> uses he said the center freq was 5735 and that it had a very wide bandwidth
> of like 100 Mhz basically taking the whole ISM/UNII bands worth of spectrum
> in 5Ghz.
>
> So any way to the point...  When the USAF shows up and says hey, I see you
> are using FCC approved equipment in accordance to the FCC spectrum rules
> the equipment was designed to operate in on freq 5765Mhz - but I need you
> to turn it off to see if its your equipment we are seeing - and if it is
> please change freq "preferably below 5600 MHz or above 5850 MHz" (actual
> quoted request).
>
> Obviously we can't accommodate their request for several reasons,most
> notably because the equipment nor the FCC allows it.  I'm just curious if
> any of you have had anything like this happen and what your response was /
> would be.
>
> I try to be a nice neighbor and work with them any way possible but them
> trying to shut down the whole 5Ghz non-licensed upper band all our
> equipment uses (including every other cable and wireline providers wifi
> 5Ghz equipment in the county) to work their range RFI issues is a bit much
> and ultimately unattainable within the 3 days they have left prior to
> launch, IMO.
>
> Any insight or suggestions you smart fellers have would be appreciated.  I
> am particularly interested in those more intimate with FCC rules regarding
> this situation.  Do I have to comply?  Do they have legal justification to
> just say - turn it off...  etc
>
> Thanks...   I appreciate your time in responding.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
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Re: [WISPA] CANOPY PMP 430:

[Sean Heskett]

Just go for the PMP450.  Same price, double the performance.  Plus the 450
is cambium's focus.  The 430 will be going away

Sean

On Tuesday, April 22, 2014, Art Stephens  wrote:

> Looking for feed back before buying.
> The site says 50MB/sector - 200MB/Tower
>   I assume the tower one is four of these GPS sync together.
> So if we need to do 5M down by 5M up per sub what would be the distance -
> number of subs per Sector.
> It appears the 50MB/sector is for 5 mile maximum LOS but how many subs?
> Simple math is 50 divided by 5 so we can safely have 10 per sector.
> I say that because we have gone past the days of just browsing and
> sending/receiving emails/files.
> Today's internet usage is steaming streaming streaming.
> And at the same time seems we can no longer go 10 to 20 miles that we used
> to.
>
> I heard these are not cheap units and want to make sure we spend the money
> for best performance.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions

[Sean Heskett]

If the unit is not in production then you can just jump ahead to the latest
software version.  However if the radio is deployed in a production
environment then it's best to follow the path cambium has laid out so that
settings stick through the upgrade process.

2 cents YMMV

Sean

On Saturday, March 15, 2014, David Williamson <
dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com> wrote:

> Do you have to follow that path or can you just skip up and flash to
> 12.1?  Is there a purpose for following that specific path?
>
>
>
> David Williamson
> Winchester Wireless
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org[mailto:
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Adam Kennedy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:57 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
>
>
>
> I contacted Cambium support about this recently. The upgrade path the
> technician gave me was this:
>
> *7.3.6 -> 8.2.7 -> 9.0 -> 9.4.2 -> 9.5 -> 10.3.2 -> 10.5 -> 11.0.1 -> 11.2
> -> 12.1*
>
>
>
> They also indicated that there were timing changes in 10.x and that causes
> some issues with older firmware. They highly recommend to run the 12.1
> firmware whenever possible. We are using 12.1 without any issues so far in
> a couple different cells.
>
>
>
> *Adam Kennedy* *|* Network Engineer
> Watch Communications
> PO Box 8 *|* Rushville, Indiana *|* 46173
> 866-586-1518
> adamkenn...@omnicity.net
> www.broadbandnetworks.com
>
>
>
> *From: *Mark Spring 
> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List 
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM
> *To: *WISPA General List 
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
>
>
>
> I have been using:
>
> 8.1.5.1 -> 8.2.7 -> 9.0 -> 9.5 -> 10.3.2 -> 10.5 -> 11.2
>
> there seems to be some debate online about which path to use and this is
> the one I elected to go with, right or wrong. We were stopping at 11.0.1
> but I have 11.2 which I assume is going to provide some benefit. Anyways,
> I'm just going to try to even the playing field in the direction that I
> have been heading but I may have to escalate this project in order to
> maintain a good level of service.
>
> Open to suggestion as this unfolds, thanks for your input!
>
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Sean Heskett]

we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free
account.

as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much
worth it!

-sean



On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

> Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
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>
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> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
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>
>
>
> google apps for your domain.
>
>
>
> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Sean Heskett]

google apps for your domain.

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)

-sean


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
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>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Seminars?

[Sean Heskett]

um sidewalks air and water are not free for any and all uses nor are they
free of charge.

I can't drive my car on the sidewalk and in some places in town I can't
ride my bike on the sidewalk.

I can't polite the air against EPA emissions standards

Water sure as hell isn't free, I pay a water bill every month and I can't
just go take water out of a stream, river or lake without rights to that
water.

sheeze people, socialism failed i.e.; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussr

move along children, nothing to see here.

-Sean


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

> LoL, did he really just ask us for help in disrupting our businesses?
>
>
>
>
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Free_Network_Movement
>
>
>
>
>
> "The one clear rule," Wilder says of FNF's philosophy, "is that the
> Internet should be treated as a commons, the same way that we treat our
> sidewalks or our air or our water. Everybody's got a right to use it on the
> same terms."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Bob Moldashel
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:25 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower Seminars?
>
>
>
> Interesting
>
> "The trees are bare, leaving the roofs of the intervening buildings
> exposed. "Out past that grain elevator, if you can see it, that's Rosedale
> Ridge," he says. "Out there 3.7 miles."
>
> Summer is coming..  :-)
>
> -B-
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2014 9:38 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote:
>
> http://harpers.org/blog/2013/03/network-free-k-c/
>
> A bit more insight.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:43 PM, timothy steele 
> wrote:
>
> I agree sounds like a interference disaster from a bunch of untrained
> noobs waiting to happen..
>
>
>
> I also have no clue what he is doing by looking at the website
>
> --
> Sent from Mailbox  for iPhone
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Isaac Wilder <
> isaac_li...@freenetworkmovement.org> wrote:
>
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Re: [WISPA] Dynamic Spectrum Brokarage?

[Sean Heskett]

this proves the FCC needs to do a better job.

this would be like a commodity market for BLM grazing rights for sheep and
cattle.  We all own the spectrum, if the FCC has issued you a license for
an area then you should have to use it or loose it.  I certainly don't
think you should be able to sell it on a commodity market.

plus the markets usually throw a monkey wrench into the system and the
value of the commodity is no longer based on the commodity but on what
investors *think* is the value. i.e. the price of a barrel of oil has
virtually *nothing* to do with the supply or demand of oil, it's all what
commodity traders think it's value is.  that's why we have weird spikes in
gas prices, demand didn't just increase (gasoline is not really price
elastic, meaning people will buy almost the same amount no matter the price
because thats how much gas it takes for them to drive to work, the grocery
store, the bank, the bar etc.).

2 cents




On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  Interesting concept:
>
>
>
> http://www.cnbc.com/id/101362152?
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 24, Issue 16

[Sean Heskett]

the part 15 PTP 24Ghz band is only from 24000-24200Mhz (200Mhz of spectrum)
i would assume that the doppler radar for cars is in another slice of the
24Ghz spectrum.  as far as i know 24000-24200Mhz is for part 15 PTP only.

shouldn't be an issue.

2 cents

-sean



On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Fred Goldstein wrote:

>  On 1/8/2014 9:35 AM, Jack Lehmann wrote:
>
> In NYC (outer borough), I have a bunch of 24GHz SAF ~2.5 mile links doing
> very nicely. Very satisfied with their performance. All that, knowing that
> there's always the risk of unlicensed interference relative to licensed.
> Still holding nicely though, considering the wild weather we've been
> having. I also have not seen RF interference issues at all.
>
>
> Just to clarify... I wouldn't touch 24 GHz *for an 11-mile link*.  But
> they're great for shorter links, like yours, especially in urban areas.
> And the narrow beams do limit interference. We do fine with 60 GHz too, for
> very short hops, like half a mile, though preferably with a 5 GHz backup or
> alternative path.
>
> I am a bit curious about vehicle radar, though.  I've seen it mentioned as
> operating in the 24 and 70 GHz bands. Only a few high-end cars have it now
> but it is likely to become more common.  Does anyone know how often it uses
> 24 GHz? This might eventually impact urban paths or those that go over
> highways.
>
>
>   Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:11:47 -0500
>> From: Fred Goldstein 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Message-ID: <52ccde13.1060...@ionary.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On 1/7/2014 8:29 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >
>> > Its doable with the PTP650's, add 3' dishes for a nice rx gain
>> >
>>
>> I seem to recall a story several years ago, before Orthogon was bought
>> by Moto, about a link somewhere in Central America (Nicaragua or
>> Panama?) that used a pair of 5.8 GHz Orthogon radios, 6 foot dishes, and
>> went over 100 miles.  Hilltops and a really big dish will do wonders.
>> Licensed 6 GHz radios, with their 6' dishes, are considered very
>> reliable out to 30 miles.  An unlicensed link is not protected against
>> interference the same way but several of the 5.8 GHz options seem
>> plausible.
>>
>> But I wouldn't touch 24 GHz. It's ground zero for rain fade, so long
>> hops there are only useful on sunny days, best in the desert. ;-) The
>> adjacent 23 GHz licensed band has less rain fade, though, and is worth
>> considering, and it should be duck soup on 18 GHz, though again licensed
>> radios cost a bit more, especially the higher-powered or higher-speed
>> options. We're shooting a DragonWave 18 GHz hop about 8 miles across
>> Boston Hahbah and it's very solid, though extreme weather might cause
>> some dropouts.  We didn't see any during this past week's snow, though
>> signals faded a few dB during yesterday's rain.
>>
>> > Gino A. Villarini
>> >
>> > g...@aeronetpr.com 
>> >
>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> >
>> > 787.273.4143
>> >
>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Christian Palecek
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 9:21 PM
>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
>> >
>> > Seems like you are asking a lot of unlicensed, unless it is completely
>> > quiet in your area...
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Original message 
>> > From: Ian Framson
>> > Date:01/07/2014 6:10 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
>> >
>> > Hi Wisps,
>> >
>> > We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11
>> > miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises).
>> > We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to
>> > the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions.
>> >
>> > The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps
>> > upgrade license.  We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems
>> > to be the limiting factor at this point.
>> >
>> > Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1
>> > possibility.
>> >
>> > Your thoughts?
>> >
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment

[Sean Heskett]

is the bottle neck on your network the fiber connection out to the Internet
or at your APs?

for us the APs are the biggest bottleneck and the fiber internet connection
(GigE) has plenty of bandwidth.

so in our case a cache server wouldn't do much except chew a hole in my
wallet.  If your connection out to the internet is your bottleneck then it
may help some but I wouldn't expect it to help more than 10%.

2 cents



On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves  wrote:

> We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks.  The setup is called
> a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server.  Its a bandwidth management
> solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to cache videos
> and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming movies.  Any
> experiences with this equipment or information would be greatly appreciated
> from another wisp.
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Re: [WISPA] tower climbers/workers comp insurance

[Sean Heskett]

In Colorado workmans comp is handled by a quasi government run monopoly. (I
think pinical is the name)

We specify what % of a workers hours are office, installer, tower climber
etc. then they calculate the premium based on that.

Sean

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, heith petersen wrote:

>I had an incident almost a year ago where a tech hurt his back on a
> water tower wiring in new service. Now the insurance company is starting to
> raise some questions. If they drop me or prohibit us from doing tower work,
> where do others go for this coverage? I am assuming its expensive. I want
> to avoid being at the mercy of a contracted tower climber when I have a
> radio down, you know I kind of need to fix that stuff. We have turned down
> wonderful tower locations because they the owners want their techs only.
> Anyways, we have never shopped for it before and was looking for some
> suggestions
>
> thanks
> heith
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Re: [WISPA] Solat panels: series or parallel?

[Sean Heskett]

When you hook things up in series (solar panels, batteries etc.) you
increase the voltage.  12vdc + 12vdc = 24vdc.

When you hook them up in parallel you increase the amps.  200ah + 200ah =
400ah.

So if you need a 24vdc plant then you hook them up like you currently have
with 2x12vdc in  series to get 24vdc and then those banks are hooked in
parallel which increases your amp hours.

If you need a 48vdc plant then hook the 24vdc banks in series to make a
48vdc bank and then hook those banks together in parallel.

The batteries charge pretty much the same no matter what voltage you are
using.  Your voltage choice depends on your load.  It's better to step down
than to step up.

Hope that helps.

Sean

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Mike Lyon wrote:

> So i'm trying to figure out what i need more of, voltage or current?
>
> I have 2x,  300 watt, 24vdc panels. I currently have them wired in
> parallel to a Morningstar SS20L-24 which in turn is hooked up to 4
> banks of 2x 12vdc deep cycle batteries (for a 24vdc system). I plan on
> replacing these batteries soon with UB4Ds or something similiar.
>
> What would be best to keep these beasts charged? The solar panels
> wired in series or parallel?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Batteries for solar

[Sean Heskett]

Shipping is what can kill you with batteries. If you have amazon prime they
will ship the ub4d for free.

Which battery can you source for the cheepest shipping?

Sean

On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Mike Lyon wrote:

> Anyone ever use Sacred Sun batteries? They have a 12vdc / 200ah
> battery for about $240 vs the ub4d 12vdc / 200ah battery @ $411
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone building Intermapper probes?

[Sean Heskett]

me too!

-sean


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  I need one for PacketFlux Generator system… anyone?
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz AP interfering with 2-way radio

[Sean Heskett]

It might also be the Ethernet run causing interference.



On Thursday, October 31, 2013, Chris Fabien wrote:

> We have a tower site where we agreed to allow a friend of the tower owner
> to install a 2-way radio repeater. I believe it is using a frequency around
> 450 mhz. We installed their omni antenna on a 3ft stand off close to a UBNT
> Nanobridge M2 radio which is pointing directly away from the omni - omni is
> about 4ft behind the dish.
>
> They are complaining about loud noise/interference when using the repeater
> from a handheld. From a mobile(vehicle) radio it works fine. What's the
> solution to fix this? Move the antennas further apart? Their radio supplier
> is suggesting that their omni should be installed at top of tower above all
> our equipment. We were reserving the use of the top mast mount for future
> needs, and don't want to do this.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] WISP Industry Growth Rate

[Sean Heskett]

Revenue or subscribers?

For us we have seen a drop in our % growth of subs since the economic
downturn.  I think we are around 20% this year (was 40-50%)

But thanks to Netflix we have seen a huge amount of growth in ARPU.  I
think our revenue is up 35-40% this year.

Kinda crazy but I don't mind making more money with less work haha.

Sean

On Tuesday, October 29, 2013, Jeff Broadwick wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'd appreciate your help.
>
> We are trying to find a good number for the WISP industry annual growth
> rate.  I've seen a number of 4%, but that was just for the really big
> carriers.
>
> Does anyone know of a source?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> Bitlomat Sales Director
> 847-238-2481 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
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Re: [WISPA] Batteries?

[Sean Heskett]

UB4D 12v 200ah

Sean

On Monday, October 28, 2013, Mike Lyon wrote:

> What is everyones favorite 12vdc battery for there solar sites? I
> believe Interstate is a WISPA vendor member, correct?
>
> -Mike
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming

[Sean Heskett]

Unifi works great for us.

What version are you using?

Sean

On Saturday, September 7, 2013, Blair Davis wrote:

>  I've tried MikroTik.
>
> I've tried Cisco.
>
> I've tried UniFi.
>
> I pretty much don't think there is a working way to roam from AP to AP
> with 802.11 in an open system.
>
> The client holds on to the weak AP long after there are stronger AP's to
> talk to.
>
> I think this is just the way it works.
>
> Now, we are giving each AP a unique ESSID but keeping them bridged on the
> wired side and requiring the user to change the connection when out of
> range...
>
> Not the best answer, but it works much better for the clients who don't
> move much...  I'd love a better answer...
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Re: [WISPA] NTIA reporting limit of 25Mbps for wireless networks

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Thanks Brian,  I knew you'd have a good answer :-)

Sean

On Monday, August 26, 2013, Brian Webster wrote:

> He is incorrect. 
>
> ** **
>
> The error check tool we states have to run will throw an error and the
> state has to make an exception record entry in to their submitted
> documentation but it does not prohibit any state from submitting data for
> fixed wireless carriers above 25 meg. I have done this for Illinois in the
> past. This is a common argument I have with the NTIA as they do not seem to
> keep up with the technology advancements in the fixed wireless world and
> thus their error check tool always seems to lag based on speeds reported.
> They have been limiting what MOBILE wireless carriers are allowed to report
> but that has been based upon the massive difference in claims of speed vs.
> the speed test data they have been gathering from their speed test app they
> give away for smart phone users. I have reviewed the speed test data for
> Illinois, and specifically the mobile data. The NTIA is correct in pushing
> the mobile wireless carriers to report a lot less than their claims. Last
> year they had a big meeting with the mobile wireless carriers where they
> hashed this issue out. The 25 meg rule was part of the result of those
> meetings. States cannot report mobile carriers at more than that but they
> most certainly can for fixed wireless.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* a...@afmug.com  [mailto:
> a...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf Of 
> *Sean
> Heskett
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 1:49 PM
> *To:* a...@afmug.com ; WISPA
> General List
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] NTIA reporting limit of 25Mbps for wireless networks***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> I was just informed by Tom McKean of the State of Colorado broadband
> mapping agency OIT  'tom.mck...@state.co.us');>> that the NTIA doesn't let them report any
> wireless plans as being faster than 25Mbps.
>
> ** **
>
> We have deployed quite a bit of Canopy 450 this year and we have plans
> that are 30Mbps down and 10Mbps up.
>
> ** **
>
> Are his statements correct?  Why does the NTIA have an arbitrary limit for
> wireless networks?
>
> ** **
>
> inquiring minds want to know!
>
> ** **
>
> -sean
>
> ** **
>
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[WISPA] NTIA reporting limit of 25Mbps for wireless networks

[Sean Heskett]

I was just informed by Tom McKean of the State of Colorado broadband
mapping agency OIT  that the NTIA doesn't let them
report any wireless plans as being faster than 25Mbps.

We have deployed quite a bit of Canopy 450 this year and we have plans that
are 30Mbps down and 10Mbps up.

Are his statements correct?  Why does the NTIA have an arbitrary limit for
wireless networks?

inquiring minds want to know!

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Re: [WISPA] LTE Chipset for Unlicensed bands?

[Sean Heskett]

plus it's a mobile protocol which as we've seen with WiMax is not always
the best for fixed wireless.  latency is usually higher with mobile
protocols.

2cents


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Ryan Spott  wrote:

> Would LTE, as a protocol be useful in the unlicensed bands?
>
> Does anyone make a chipset for this?
>
> ryan
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Re: [WISPA] Any suggestions for a 6Ghz 3ft dish with N connector single pol

[Sean Heskett]

Check with wbmfg.com

Sean

On Monday, August 12, 2013, Scott Carullo wrote:

> I need to find something different than the Comscope (andrew) 3ft
> valueline dishes I have I'm not a fan of them
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
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Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

[Sean Heskett]

I would go licensed backhauls and save all the unlicensed spectrum for pmp.

That way you have a bunch of different tools to use for the last mile.
 Start with a couple backhauls each year and work your way out...you'll be
glad you did.

Also 5.4ghz is very useful because the noise floor is almost always -95 (in
our area at least)  the lower noise floor makes it just as useful as 5.8
where the noise is -80

Sean

On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Daniel Mullen wrote:

>  It may come to that, but all of our back haul links are 5 GHz and it was
> always intended to be kept 'clean' for this purpose. If we could count on
> using the 3.65 GHz for backhaul it would mean switching the links on ~20
> towers but help us get out of the 2.4 GHz mess.
>
> Daniel
>
> At 00:43 01.08.2013, you wrote:
>
> Content-Language: en-US
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> **** boundary="_000_CE1F0B6B1B2E1gavaeronetprcom_"
>
> Why don't you use PMP450 in 5ghz?
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
> From: Daniel Mullen  'wi...@metrocom.ca');>>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List  'cvml', 'wireless@wispa.org');>>
> Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List  'wireless@wispa.org');>>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site
>
> If this helps:
>
> We are in Canada - spectrum license time: one week. Effort: one page
> letter.
>
> There are three 900 MHz Canopy sectors and an omni serving at least 24
> customers who are now on 2.4 GHz Canopy.
>
> Currently the backhaul is on 5 GHz but this will need to change to support
> a ~300 Mbps link.
>
> The site is on a hill with a 96' tower overlooking the coast, with all of
> the 30 or so 2.4 GHz customers being inside of 1000 yards, and perhaps a
> few more up to 2000 yards away.
>
> My plan was to put up two Titanium base stations, each with a 90° antenna
> of unknown source as of yet, and to put up to 24 customers on each sector
> to offer an upgrade to either 5 Mbps or 10 Mbps connections. These are
> existing customers, so it would be free radio rental and free installation
> in return for 24 month contracts.
>
> I would be more than willing to deploy something like the PMP450 or Runcom
> LTE stuff, but we need to do this in the next couple of weeks.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> At 18:20 31.07.2013, you wrote:
>
> Use NSM365 with a dish on all but the shortest links.
>
> Keep distances short, 4 miles or less.
>
> AMQ above 80%
>
> TX CCQ above 75%
>
> RX level or -70 or better
>
> AMQ, TX CCQ, & RX level must *ALL* be at or above those values.
>
> Keep SM counts below 45 or so.
>
> Use KP Performance antennas or Ubiquiti antennas with RF Armor shields.
>
> Once the above is done, start saving money for the upcoming 3.65 PMP450
> (don't hold your breath though) and replace the Ubiquiti gear when it
> becomes available.
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:01 AM, < daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca 'cvml', 'daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca');>>
> < daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca  'daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca');>> wrote:
>
> We are putting up a 3.65 GHz system next week to take existing customers
> off of an existing Canopy 2.4GHz system.
>
> Is there anyone who has deployed the 3 Ghz gear from Ubnt and could
> recommend which model of CPE and if there anything to know to avoid a steep
> 'learning curve' since we have never deployed anything from Ubiquiti until
> now.
>
> Suggestions as to the best prices are most welcome too!
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Sean Heskett]

UBNT unifi

You'll have to replace the APs with unifi APs but they are cheep enough to
stay within your budget.

It has all the features you listed and then some.

Sean

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013, Chris Fabien wrote:

> I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:
>
> Need to provide two levels of service
> Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
> Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
> monthly service
>
> Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
> easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
> is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.
>
> Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
> APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
> 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.
>
> I would prefer an "all in one box" type system over a home
> made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
> "just work." Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
> cost is OK if necessary.
>
> So, any suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Fixed Wireless growing faster than Cable and DSL

[Sean Heskett]

Damn statistics!

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013, Brian Webster wrote:

> Remember when looking at stats like this that the cable and DSL industries
> have been doing this a lot longer and have already built up a large number
> of customers in a mature market. Say you have 8 thousand customers, to get
> a 7.2% increase you would have to add 576 customers. If you are a new fiber
> to the home or wireless operator and have 500 customers, you only need to
> add 100 customers to get a 20% increase. A fixed wireless operator with
> 1000 customers would only have to add 120 new subscribers to get that 12%
> increase.  If you look at the “year adds” column in this article, the DSL
> industry had more than 4 million more new customers than cable but only
> posted half the growth rate percentage and still had over 9 million more
> new subscribers than fiber to the home.
>
> ** **
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  'wireless-boun...@wispa.org');> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 'wireless-boun...@wispa.org');>]
> *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:51 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org  'wireless@wispa.org');>)
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Fixed Wireless growing faster than Cable and DSL
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/04/world-broadband-users-reach-643-7-million-fuelled-by-fibre-optic-connectivity.html
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com 
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
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[WISPA] Canopy 430 AP lockup

[Sean Heskett]

Just and FYI.  I already submitted a ticket to cambium but we are seeing
several 430 APs lock up.

The APs will still pass traffic to the clients and I can ping the AP.
However, I can't bring up the web interface of the AP and I can't telnet
into the AP. As long as SMs connected are not rebooted they will stay
registered and pass traffic. If an SM is rebooted then the AP can't talk to
Prizm so the SM can't authenticate and the client is knocked offline. Power
cycling the AP fixes the issue.  we are running version 11.2.

Anyone else seeing this problem???

-sean
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Re: [WISPA] Siklu Eband -finally affordable

[Sean Heskett]

I think (but i'm not certain) that since there is such a large swath of
spectrum (10Ghz) they use 1Ghz channel sizes but only modulate at BPSK and
QPSK. Where as lower frequencies (like 5Ghz) you can use a 80Mhz channel at
256QAM and get similar throughput.  By only using QPSK there is a higher
probability that your signal will reach the other end of the link, by using
1Ghz channels you get higher throughput but with a lower modulation rate.

80Ghz is a really small wavelength so i would think your distance will
always be limited to 1 maybe 2 miles.

-sean




On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Sam Tetherow  wrote:

>  Wow!
>
> (partially because of the price drop, but mostly because I haven't seen
> Tom post in forever, welcome back)
>
> I haven't really studied up on 80GHz stuff, but it is my understanding
> that you don't have to worry about rain fade, and you have 10GHz of
> spectrum to use which should ease co-location issues.
>
>
> On 04/04/2013 09:06 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>
> Its been ages since I've posted, butthis advertisement surely caught
> my eye.
>
> Siklu Eband radios (licenced light) for sub $3500 per link.  FINALLY !!!
> We can afford to start using this 70G spectrum.
>
> Some may say not that exciting, considering 24Ghz products have already
> hit that price mark and functionality, and can go 3x the distance.
> But, I say its exciting, thats one ambitious price drop from where other
> 80Ghz products have been priced at ($30k), historically 2-4x over priced
> compared to 60Ghz equivellent  product, just because of the uniqueness to
> license 80Ghz and slight increase in range. Its nice to see someone finally
> do it, after I've been screaming for it for the last 10 years.
>
> Anyway... anyone use the product yet and have feedback?
>
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* ~NGL~ 
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:55 PM
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Bullet M5HP
>
>  What kind of throughput can I expect with a pair of Bullet M5's PTP with
> 24 DBI Grids and pure LOS at 2-5 miles?
> NGL
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[WISPA] FS: ZIRKEL Antenna Mounts

[Sean Heskett]

Hi Everyone,  Some of you have asked about our easy to use antenna mounts
that are great for Canopy and Ubiquity subscriber antennas.  Here are links
to our current eBay auctions.  We should have a permanent online store soon.

For now, you can order on ebay and if you have any questions, contact Alan
at a...@zirkel.us


Thank you,

Sean Heskett,

ZIRKEL Wireless

970-871-8500


http://www.ebay.com/itm/140922913502?ssPageName=STRK:MEUSX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649


http://www.ebay.com/itm/140922918279?ssPageName=STRK:MEUSX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649


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[WISPA] FCC Chairman Genachowski to step down

[Sean Heskett]

Just FYI...not sure if this is good, bad or ugly???

http://news.yahoo.com/fcc-chairman-genachowski-step-down-141103205--finance.html
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[WISPA] network password manager

[Sean Heskett]

As our network grows and we keep adding more hardware I am wondering what
others do with passwords to all these devices.

i hate having one password that works on a lot of devices but i haven't
found a good industry practice or software tool to store all this data
securely.

I'm thinking of looking at our network as different classes of devices and
making some kind of standard password for each device class but then make
the specific password for the device different by adding something to the
"base" class password so it would be different than all the others in the
class.

servers
routers
switches
UPSs
BHs
APs
etc.


what are you guys doing?  any good tools out there?

thanks,
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[WISPA] Short UBNT PTP link

[Sean Heskett]

Hi Gang,

I am looking at installing a short (100m) PTP backhaul across a campground
for a wifi system we are putting in.  I'm looking at using a pair of UBNT
NSM365 units to accomplish this.  I need about 50Mbps full duplex.  I'd
like to use the 3.65Ghz spectrum for this PTP so that i keep all my other
part15 spectrum clean.

Is this the best option or do you have another recommendation.

I'm a bit new to UBNT and not completely familiar with the product line.

Thanks for your help.

-sean
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[WISPA] visio stencils

[Sean Heskett]

Does anyone have some good visio stencils for cambium, dragonwave, SAF and
UBNT?

Thanks,
sean
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Re: [WISPA] Router Question

[Sean Heskett]

Mikrotik rb1100 ~$450
UBNT router max ~$90
Cisco linksys RV042G ~$150

Sean

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013, ~NGL~ wrote:

> **
> I need a router with 1 150 Meg  wan port and at least 2  150 Meg lan ports.
> Wireless is not needed or could be turned.
> Preferably under $200.00 and setup thru a Window interface.
> Any recommends?
> Thanx
> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[Sean Heskett]

make sure you are running the latest controller software version.

we have an MDU that is basically a condo-tell (condominium but runs like a
hotel with lots of nightly rentals)  We haven't seen any issues with apple
products and this place has hundreds of different devices connecting each
week.

-sean


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Shaun Hoggan  wrote:

> With respect to UniFi gear, has anyone has any trouble with UniFi
> connection reliability with Apple products?  I have an installation where
> Apple products (laptops and iphones) have "sporadic connectivity" while my
> neighboring Dell laptop works just fine.
>
> To define "sporadic connectivity" the connection works fine then all of a
> sudden, without notice, the connection will drop.  After 3-5 minutes it
> will reconnect.  While this happens, my Dell laptop will stay connected
> without any problems or disconnect.
>
> Shaun Hoggan
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>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Yes.
>> and that tends to resolve the issue.
>> (the issue being the unit is powered up and clients can't connect to it)
>>
>> i have about 16 of these on a catholic campus here ; boarding school.
>>
>> happens in two areas - the high school building - and the boys dorm.
>> usually random times, and not at the same time.
>> i'd say each has locked up probably twice - we installed 3rd and 4th
>> quarter
>> of 2012.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 5:00 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs
>>
>> Rebooting the radio via software (the Unifi controller)?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> We have found on our unifi network they tend to "lock up" maybe once
>>> every three months or so.
>>> (could be an issue on-site too) ; it could be where i have the
>>> controller too - although the controller
>>> isn't required for it to run.
>>>
>>> Hasn't annoyed me enough yet to do anything about it - and i can reboot
>>> the unit from the controller
>>> software without having to truck roll to the site, so - well - just
>>> keeping an eye on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  - Original Message -
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>  *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 4:57 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs
>>>
>>>  I'd have to replace all of the radios for that, unfortunately.  That's
>>> a great idea, though, and I may do that if taking the calls gets to be too
>>> high.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ubnt unifi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 11, 2013, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone has found an
>>>>> easy solution yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they did it the
>>>>> way I expect, but with the lack of support or contact I found it too odd 
>>>>> to
>>>>> use.  I want a solution so users can easily get online via their
>>>>> phone/tablet/computer without any complication, like hotels and such.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know of a solution for this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[Sean Heskett]

Ubnt unifi

On Monday, February 11, 2013, Josh Luthman wrote:

> This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone has found an
> easy solution yet.
>
> I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they did it the way I
> expect, but with the lack of support or contact I found it too odd to use.
>  I want a solution so users can easily get online via their
> phone/tablet/computer without any complication, like hotels and such.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution for this?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [WISPA] High Capacity AP alternatives?

[Sean Heskett]

what sort of problems have you had with cambium OFDM PMP?

we did find that with the 430APs the Omni (laird 12db) is only good for 2-4
mile shots.  over 4 miles and you really need the 17db sector on the AP.

just curious because for us cambium's OFDM products saved our business.

-sean


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Craig House wrote:

> What are the advantages / disadvantages of RADWin PtmP products?  We have
> had horrible luck with OFDM AP's from Cambium and have lost multiple
> business customers that were demanding 5x5 or 10x10 connections that we
> cant deliver on FSK.  In a few cases we have put up their own backhauls for
> them and in a few others we have put up UBNT sectors for that kind of BW
> but would really like to have a reliable PtmP Omni that could service
> multiple high bandwidth requiring customers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Craig
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:57:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Capacity AP alternatives?
>
> RADWin point to multipoint?  What exactly are you trying to do?
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
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>
> On 1/25/13 6:36 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
> > Besides Cambium, Mikrotik, Ubnt and other WiFi products, is anyone
> > successfully deploying something else to service both residential and
> > business customers?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado ISP's..

[Sean Heskett]

Well pot is already legal here so what would be better than that???

On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Doug Clark wrote:

> I can think of one other thing that would be better news coming out
> of Colorado than that.
>
>
>
>
> *---Original Message---*
>
>  *From:* Daniel White  'daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com');>
> *Date:* 12/6/2012 5:33:00 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'  'wireless@wispa.org');>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for
> ColoradoISP's..
>
> And they just got done pulling the fiber they were trenching along I-25
> here
> in the Frederick/Firestone area.
>
> Major blow to G4S I'm sure.
>
> Wonder what happens to that fiber now...
>
> Daniel White – Sales Manager West and Southeast USA
> SAF Tehnika JSC
>
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> SAF office:   +371 67046840
> Skype: danieldwhite
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>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  'wireless-boun...@wispa.org');> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 'wireless-boun...@wispa.org');>
> ]
> > On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:48 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado
> ISP's..
> >
> > SenatorBrophy @SenatorBrophy
> >
> > Eagle-Net grant pulled. Stimulus boon-doogle that hurt businesses in
> rural
> > Colorado reigned in. Damage was already done, recovery starts.
> >
> > Word is the CEO of Eagle-Net has also resigned!!!
> >
> > BEST NEWS EVER!!!
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado ISP's..

[Sean Heskett]

Oh wow, that's really awesome to know they were pulling fiber along the
most fiber laden portion of the state...sheeze what a govt boondoggle!

Glad they hadn't extended their tenticales to our part of the state that
could really use some new fiber paths.

Good riddance!

On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Daniel White wrote:

> And they just got done pulling the fiber they were trenching along I-25
> here
> in the Frederick/Firestone area.
>
> Major blow to G4S I'm sure.
>
> Wonder what happens to that fiber now...
>
> Daniel White – Sales Manager West and Southeast USA
> SAF Tehnika JSC
>
> Cell:  +1 303-746-3590
> SAF office:   +371 67046840
> Skype: danieldwhite
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org  [mailto:
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org ]
> > On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:48 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado
> ISP's..
> >
> > SenatorBrophy @SenatorBrophy
> >
> > Eagle-Net grant pulled. Stimulus boon-doogle that hurt businesses in
> rural
> > Colorado reigned in. Damage was already done, recovery starts.
> >
> > Word is the CEO of Eagle-Net has also resigned!!!
> >
> > BEST NEWS EVER!!!
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] OT: I have to share this.. Its BIG news for Colorado ISP's..

[Sean Heskett]

is there a news article or something???


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:

> SenatorBrophy @SenatorBrophy
>
> Eagle-Net grant pulled. Stimulus boon-doogle that hurt businesses in
> rural Colorado reigned in. Damage was already done, recovery starts.
>
> Word is the CEO of Eagle-Net has also resigned!!!
>
> BEST NEWS EVER!!!
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

[Sean Heskett]

what if we Tx to the CPE in 3.65Ghz with 25Mhz channels then we only
have to register the tower location, then Tx to the tower with 900Mhz,
2.4Ghz or 5.xGhz???

-sean


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> I think that there are some common bands that would allow a wide market, 2.4 
> ghz, 3.x ghz and 5.x ghz are fairly widespread, the challenge is to SCALE as 
> you say... that is something that UBNT achieved using wifi chipsets.  The way 
> I see its is that you might need to think out of the box to achieve 
> multicarrier aggregation WITH either cheap wifi chipsets ore something similar
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> 787.273.4143
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:04 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!
>
> That'd be one sexy product Gino. Two obvious challenges:
>
> 1. Lack of international unity in spectrum used for BWA, which hurts the 
> ability to get to commodity pricing. Of course, this is already being done 
> with 802.11n though, which supports both 2.4 GHz (802.11g compatible) and 5 
> GHz.
>
> 2. The cellular guys benefit from S C A L E. Last I heard there were over 1B 
> cell phones in use today. That's some scale man and enables cost to drive W A 
> Y down.
>
> Now you are seeing SDR radios (I know, that's redundant, but sounds funky if 
> I leave out "radio") hitting the market for our space, the latest being our 
> 3.65 COMPACT. This at least enables some strong investment protection. I 
> remember Vanu Bose championing them way back in to 2002, but it takes time 
> and mass before things get to market. We can only do it because the costs of 
> FPGAs have gone way down. Not low enough to use in CPE, but low enough to go 
> into base stations.
>
> It's good though for you guys to constantly apply pressure.
>
> Patrick Leary
> Alvarion
> m: 727.501.3735
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: a...@afmug.com, "WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:14:39 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would like to see a Multiband Mimo PMP System similar to what is being 
> developed in the LTE-Advanced RF protocol, where a BaseStation can use 
> various spectrum bands to talk to CPEs…
>
>
>
> Imaging having an AP with multiple RF Sections using 2.4,3.x,5.x and 
> aggregate all bands in a single Layer 1 medium to the CPE…also could split 
> the downlink/uplink in various bands…youll need sync, plus some special sauce 
> to organize Spectrum availability and Identify external interference.. but 
> all that could be achieve out of the AP in a Cloud controller…
>
>
>
> So whos the taker?
>
>
>
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>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!

[Sean Heskett]

we could also then put high gain receive antennas (and maybe even
apms???) at the tower



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> what if we Tx to the CPE in 3.65Ghz with 25Mhz channels then we only
> have to register the tower location, then Tx to the tower with 900Mhz,
> 2.4Ghz or 5.xGhz???
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>> I think that there are some common bands that would allow a wide market, 2.4 
>> ghz, 3.x ghz and 5.x ghz are fairly widespread, the challenge is to SCALE as 
>> you say... that is something that UBNT achieved using wifi chipsets.  The 
>> way I see its is that you might need to think out of the box to achieve 
>> multicarrier aggregation WITH either cheap wifi chipsets ore something 
>> similar
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary
>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:04 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!
>>
>> That'd be one sexy product Gino. Two obvious challenges:
>>
>> 1. Lack of international unity in spectrum used for BWA, which hurts the 
>> ability to get to commodity pricing. Of course, this is already being done 
>> with 802.11n though, which supports both 2.4 GHz (802.11g compatible) and 5 
>> GHz.
>>
>> 2. The cellular guys benefit from S C A L E. Last I heard there were over 1B 
>> cell phones in use today. That's some scale man and enables cost to drive W 
>> A Y down.
>>
>> Now you are seeing SDR radios (I know, that's redundant, but sounds funky if 
>> I leave out "radio") hitting the market for our space, the latest being our 
>> 3.65 COMPACT. This at least enables some strong investment protection. I 
>> remember Vanu Bose championing them way back in to 2002, but it takes time 
>> and mass before things get to market. We can only do it because the costs of 
>> FPGAs have gone way down. Not low enough to use in CPE, but low enough to go 
>> into base stations.
>>
>> It's good though for you guys to constantly apply pressure.
>>
>> Patrick Leary
>> Alvarion
>> m: 727.501.3735
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gino Villarini" 
>> To: a...@afmug.com, "WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)" 
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:14:39 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Challenge to PMP manufacturers!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to see a Multiband Mimo PMP System similar to what is being 
>> developed in the LTE-Advanced RF protocol, where a BaseStation can use 
>> various spectrum bands to talk to CPEs…
>>
>>
>>
>> Imaging having an AP with multiple RF Sections using 2.4,3.x,5.x and 
>> aggregate all bands in a single Layer 1 medium to the CPE…also could split 
>> the downlink/uplink in various bands…youll need sync, plus some special 
>> sauce to organize Spectrum availability and Identify external interference.. 
>> but all that could be achieve out of the AP in a Cloud controller…
>>
>>
>>
>> So whos the taker?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
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[WISPA] East coast storm

[Sean Heskett]

Hope everyone is ok out east!  Looks like a wicked bad storm.

Lets us know if there is something we can do to help.

-Sean
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Re: [WISPA] 430 SMs

[Sean Heskett]

I forgot to specify that we need the 5.4Ghz 430 SMs.



On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> So it seems there are no 430 SMs left on the planet.  We are in
> desperate need of at least a 25 pack (we prefer 20Mbps SMs but beggars
> can't be choosers).
>
> Anyone have any in stock???
>
> -Sean
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