My company does offer it but the concerns I had are:
What do you do with the customer who actually uses it continuously?
Do you put caps on usage (and what does that do to your ability to sell it)?
Will it hurt you pricing margin for business customers?
How do you justify the price
: Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why is GoPro sponsoring this irresponsable Crap?
BASE jumping Gino :)
On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Gino Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote
BASE jumping Gino :)
On Saturday, January 10, 2015, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
GoPro: 9 Frontflips Off A Tower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY
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Wireless, Inc
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From: Bret Clark
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Blah...I wouldn't rely on any telco or cable company
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Agreed, Brett.
I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL they have an outage,
and then they loose all their customers feeding off it after that.
If there is one Thing the Cable Cos
, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Agreed, Brett.
I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL they have an outage,
and then they loose all their customers feeding off it after
-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to
us
Agreed, Brett.
I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL they have an outage, and
then they loose all
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to
us
I'm not sure I agree either, but wireless obviously can't be cut
ics-il.com
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From: "Tom DeReggi" wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Agreed, Brett.
I see people use busi
Brian Webster wrote:
Fiber deployments have been commonplace between
telephone switches for years now and I have never heard about reliability
issues and/or downtime problems with the fiber. Not that they don't happen
but when you average their uptime to their outages, I would think they have
Exactly. The terms wireless and fiber are too broad to make any
valid reliability comparison without more specifics.
Comparing a licensed point to point microwave system with redundant
paths, spatial diversity, standby power, and a tower structure rated to
150 MPH to an aerial fiber strand
- Location
Best,
Brad
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Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Exactly
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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Tom,
When you make the claim that wireless has more uptime than fiber, where do
you base those facts from and what
...@vectordatasystems.com
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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
Exactly. The terms wireless and fiber are too broad to make any
valid reliability comparison without more specifics.
Comparing
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
I'm not sure I agree either, but wireless obviously can't be cut. With that
though, our fiber hasn't been out more than twice in 5 years.
-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett
oversubscription.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's
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From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Agreed, Brett.
I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL
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From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to
us
Agreed, Brett.
I see people use business
I take it you never took our advice to have the guts in a NEMA box
outside? If you did you can at least get it working yourself...
On 1/10/10, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
I have a tower down. It's fed by a *business* grade DSL link.
Can't get to the main router at that
I found out about so-called business DSL a few years ago. We had it here
(Qwest), and every three to four weeks it would go belly-up. The fix was
that, after a day or two of dead air, Qwest would send out a tech to
power-cycle the ancient and creaky Nortel neighborhood dslam. This went on
for
Blah...I wouldn't rely on any telco or cable company to serve our
towers. We are completely wireless between towers, even our upstream
Internet links are wireless running to local Internet exchange points.
That way if there is a problem we are responsible for it and we can fix
it without
So lie to them, and tell them you're standing there and the DSL light is
blinking. Or whatever they want to hear.
That person is probably a $10/hr individual paid to follow a flow chart, and
doesn't know what to do if your answers don't fall in-line with that chart.
I've done this many times.
When it's a DSL or cable connection I typically say I rebooted the
modem and my PC is plugged into it.
On 1/10/10, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
So lie to them, and tell them you're standing there and the DSL light is
blinking. Or whatever they want to hear.
That person is
:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
When it's a DSL or cable connection I typically say I rebooted the modem
and my PC is plugged into it.
On 1/10/10, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
So lie to them, and tell them you're
: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
I take it you never took our advice to have the guts in a NEMA box
outside? If you did you can at least get it working yourself...
On 1/10/10, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
I have a tower down. It's fed
1.5 hours away.
The point of the whole story is crappy, ignorant support levels.
marlon
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's
- Original Message -
From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
So lie to them, and tell them you're standing there and the DSL light
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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
...oh, I get up to 230Kbps Internet on the laptop-to-phone-via-Bluetooth
and
if you get just the Cingular/ATT MediaNet plan you get
: RE: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
...oh, I get up to 230Kbps Internet on the laptop-to-phone-via-Bluetooth
and
if you get just the Cingular/ATT MediaNet plan you get unlimited Internet
including that high speed GPRS (not 3G, however but for $19.95 for all you
can
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...oh, I get up to 230Kbps Internet on the laptop-to-phone-via-Bluetooth
and
if you get just the C
, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
...oh, I get up to 230Kbps Internet on the laptop-to-phone-via-Bluetooth
and
if you get just the Cingular/ATT MediaNet plan you get unlimited Internet
including that high speed GPRS (not 3G, however
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Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:46 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
I'm sold on the Nokia E61i...a thinner (very thin) and much faster version
Another phone that does wifi is the cingular 8525. It is good for checking
out hotspots, too.
~V~
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why
: Friday, October 12, 2007 2:37 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
Another phone that does wifi is the cingular 8525. It is good for checking
out hotspots, too.
~V~
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Nice.
Again, another phone that does more than the iPhone.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Sent: Wednesday, October
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:40 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
FWIW, my E70 rules. It
I apologize for sending this link. I thought it was funny, but it has
quite a bit of crude language and should have been thinking before I
forwarded it.
Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
Rick Harnish wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
hehehehehehehehe
roflol
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:00 -0600, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
I apologize for sending this link. I thought it was funny, but it has
quite a bit of crude language and should have been thinking before I
forwarded it.
Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
Rick
This is a much better reasoning as to why I do not desire an iPhone.
http://blog.metasploit.com/2007/09/root-shell-in-my-pocket-and-maybe-yours.html
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 10:39 -0600, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
FWIW, my E70 rules. It is by far the best phone I have ever used.
Take that,
Tom and Jack,
The 68% leaving from Indifference means that you aren't telling them how
good you are.
So when the new guy shows up, he has no idea of the record of reliability.
One of the great things about selling Managed Router or Firewall or IDS
service to businesses is that you can send
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] why join ... a rant
Peter R. wrote:
I haven't joined yet either. Three reasons:
(1) I would have to join as a vendor, since I am a consultant
Interesting thought. Along those lines, try calling up past customers
and asking them--you may not like the feedback, but, it should be
useful. In any case, they'll likely have a better idea why they left
than we will :)
-Clint
On 3/31/07, Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom and Jack,
Thats a good list Peter.
My broadband churn is almost 100% people dying and moving. I think it's
like 2:1 moving over dying, Thank god the housing market is in the toilet.
Every week I open the newspaper and see which of my customers passed
away. This week I lost 2. One a broadband sub and
Not an accurate list, it leaves off a big category.
- Customer doesn't know who or what they are using, nor why. Therefore
makes uninformed decisions.
So lack of communication with client base I believe is one of the biggest
reasons for custoemr churn. For example, customer's staff change,
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Not an accurate list, it leaves off a big category.
- Customer doesn't know who or what they are using, nor why. Therefore
makes uninformed decisions.
So lack of communication with client base I believe is one of the
biggest reasons for custoemr churn. For example,
Peter R. wrote:
I haven't joined yet either. Three reasons:
(1) I would have to join as a vendor, since I am a consultant - and I
can't as yet see the ROI.
I can see that. If people here do not pay you enough to pay your dues
then why would you join? i guess there could be an argument
I haven't joined yet either. Three reasons:
(1) I would have to join as a vendor, since I am a consultant - and I
can't as yet see the ROI.
(2) I see the similarities here to another group that I belonged to ...
and I don't want to go down that path again.
(3) I have a real problem with
Peter R. wrote:
So, Blair, none of what WISPA has done, you agree with?
Did not say that.
Then why are you still on the list?
I monitor this public list, and others, to get an idea where things are
going in the industry.
Also, to lobby and fight takes effort, energy, time and money.
And
George, why do you have an STA application pending? What are your plans
for the gear? What is the experiment you will be performing?
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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First, lets clear things up.
I already know that we are not supposed to use it as part of our
network, regardless of what others might think. We have already heard
someone else say other wise on a different list as part of a different
organization.
So, for me, it's to experiment with and to
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Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
First, lets clear things up.
I
It's actually a very good thread.
Just think of those who heard some one else last year say they were
using their for backhaul...
Now they know better.
These new cards, which have actually been talked about for quite some
time, will help some of the guys (the RF Gearheads) to do more
Rogato
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
It's actually a very good thread.
Just think of those who heard some one else last year say they were
using their for backhaul...
Now they know better.
These new cards, which have
Patrick Leary wrote:
... Now they know better.
Alas, we can, and I always do, hope that people learn.
That is the whole point of these lists.
To educate and help wisps understand better.
What good is a dormant list?
Some may think that a lot of these posts are just talk and hopefully
George Rogato wrote:
Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't
just sell them to just anyone with a cc.
I didn't think a radio vendor was allowed to sell a product for use with
an experimental license. I thought the radio vendor could only let you
use the radio for the
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George
Patrick Leary wrote:
That's why operator-acquired STAs are usually worked cooperatively with
vendors, i.e. the vendor is looking for the operator to perform specific
real world tests for the purposes of product validation, refinement,
etc.
Sure... we just had to give the radios back
quot;logging" can be done.
Nor have I any location to keep such data secure.
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From: "Travis Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY?
Hi,
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:25 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WHY?
Hi,
You have to connect to the internet backbone somewhere (even if in
multiple locations, etc.). You would simply need a $500 PC at each
connection. Pretty simple.
Travis
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY?
Hi,
You have to connect to the internet backbone somewhere (even if in
multiple locations, etc.). You would simply need a $500 PC at each
connection. Pretty simple.
Travis
Microserv
Mark
I've always told my customers that whatever they do on the net is not
annonamous. And that they should assume someone is watching and is
listening.
I've kinda described privacy on the net is like being blindfolded at the
local football stadium and thinking nobody is there, but then to find
IMHO, this is real simple..
If you give me an IP, in near real-time or for a few months after, I can
give you a user name and address, unless it was a free, public access
use at one of our hotspots, in which case you are SOL. If it is 6
months ago or longer, if the user is still a
Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
www.nwwnet.net
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From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:27:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [
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From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:27:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY?
IMHO, this is real simple..
If you give me an IP, in near real-time or for a few months after, I can
give you a user name
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
I do not want the legal liability of being responsible for having such logs,
keeping such logs, and having to prove such logs are absolutely accurate.
That's just that part.
Amen to that brother!
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
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WISPA Wireless List:
Given what the article cites I don't see it being a severe burden on a
small ISP. All that I see mentioned in the article is the ability to
track what IP belongs to what customer over a period of time. If you
can't track that on your network, how do you manage to troubleshoot
problems or
wrong, every person has the right to be assumed innocent until proven
guilty.
To all,
As a police officer, i need a wiretap on a phone line, because i believe
the person using that ph. line is doing something illegal. When i get
that permission from the judicial authority i may start tracking
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 07:02 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY?Sam Tetherow wrote: Given what the article cites I don't see it being a severe burden on a small ISP
It's not about tracking what IP belongs to what customer. It's about
logging ALL connections, possibly even content.
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From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY
the
customers will not pass through any place where logging can be done.
Nor have I any location to keep such data secure.
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WHY
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