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Thus, in HTML5, both img and img/ are permitted and mean the same
thing. The slash is ignored by the parser. However, the slash is not
permitted for non-empty elements. e.g. p/ is not allowed in HTML,
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That can be set in the SGML declaration, but because it's not explicitly
set in HTML4, it uses the default.
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and few people took the idea seriously because the whole
idea is nonsense. HTML5 will not be becoming a presentational language,
though it also won't be a strictly and purely semantic language either.
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it's an encoding issue, but
the computer I'm on at the moment probably doesn't have those glyphs
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Select the New Document pane.
Set the Default Encoding to UTF-8
Check Use when opening existing files that don't specify and encoding
Uncheck Use Unicode Signature (BOM) - Unfortunately, the BOM causes
problems with PHP and other things, so it's safer to not include it.
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e.g. /mars/news/2006-03-20
Or maybe:
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that triggers quirks mode, an xmlns
attribute and XML empty element syntax, they really haven't got a clue
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experts will
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bookmarks, links, etc. If you do have to, make sure you set up
appropriate redirects (using HTTP headers, never use meta refresh)
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will also give some useful warnings that a real XML parser won't, such
as reference to a non-SGML character. That's very useful for
detecting common mistakes like #146; instead of #x2019;.
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Incidentally, I would be interested in any browsers you know which won't
support application/xhtml+xml, apart from IE of course.
http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/xhtml/media-types/results
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Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Designer wrote:
Incidentally, I would be interested in any browsers you know which won't
support application/xhtml+xml, apart from IE of course.
http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/xhtml/media-types/results
Thanks, Lachlan. I studied the list
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It worked in Strict which is why I've been misled for so long.
If you're talking about XHTML 1.0 Strict, then it will only work if
you're using the wrong MIME type: text/html. Serve your page as
application/xhtml+xml and I doubt it will work.
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not defining strict correctly. Here is a test page which
works in FF,IE6: http://urbits.com/_/test.php
Add this function call to the top of your PHP file:
?php
header(Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml);
?
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(with the exception of our esteemed friend Internet Explorer, which
doesn't even attempt to render pages served as anything other than
text/html).
...or text/plain. But that's another can of worms :-)
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on 10/03/06 13:56 Lachlan Hunt said the following:
I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height.
With that many, you may be overusing/abusing the div element. [...]
You should probably try and find more semantic elements.
So in this case
http
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Unfortunately when printing they sometimes get divided between 2
pages... is there any way round this?
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valid use cases for HRs.
Are there any compelling reasons not to use them? (Apart from them being
empty tags).
Why would the fact that it's an empty element be a reason not to use it?
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Thierry Koblentz wrote:
I think it worth mentioning that the * html hack works in IE *Mac* too.
I forgot about this earlier, but that's the reason for the comment hack
to hide from IE5/Mac.
/*\*/ * html { ... } /**/
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comments in CSS. You could place it
in an include file of some sort, which gets included in every file.
For that, you could use SSI or, if you're using PHP, ASP, JSP, or
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Al Kendall wrote:
The attached pic is a screen shoot from IE 6. Firefox 1.5 was fine
Yes, I know. I think you misread my e-mail. I knew it was broken in
IE6, I'm looking for a way to fix it. Any ideas?
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still required in IE7b2, but that was
before I realised that IE7b2 was nothing more than a joke and I probably
shouldn't have bothered with it.
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since we do know that * html is equivalent to [if lte IE 6], both are
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The following test case demonstrates how I want it to look and my
current solution that works in Firefox. Both examples in the page
should look roughly identical
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That will select
a href=# class=contentpagetitlelink/a
and
.contentpagetitle a:link
Specificity is the same, but will select differently:
p class=contentpagetitle
a href=#link/a
/p
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Rob Mientjes wrote:
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Hi Everyone,
A new site I recently developed the front-end for over the past few
months, called Edentiti [1], has just officially launched and I wanted
to get some feedback...
Looks good, everything works. Just not sure
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
[1] http://edentiti.com/
The layout can't cope with any degree of font-resizing in any browser,
which I think is a weak point.
In my testing, I can resize a substantial amount before seeing any
problems occur, and even then it's just slightly
Tom Livingston wrote:
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[1] http://edentiti.com/
Took _minutes_ for the home page to display, and once it did, it still
wasn't finished loading things.
Mac OS 10.4.5 Safari 2.0.3
Really? Maybe the server can't cope with the load
nice
here?
What's Thierrys TIP?
Besides that I looks great... and I'm crazy over the form validation.
Looks awesome.
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Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/02/20 06:32 Lachlan Hunt apparently typed:
[someone else] wrote:
Or better: Is there a way to please both groups?
Yes. Don't use small fonts.
Don't blame me, I wasn't the designer, just the implementer so I had to.
But I also wrote somewhere else
can do. We apologise for the inconvenience.
and couldn't bear them being brought up by (cough, splutter) a *customer*
What kind of person would rather insult the customer instead of
admitting they have a problem?
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use that instead:
body
div id=container
... content ...
a href=#containertop/a
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Ian Anderson wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
It depends where the H1 is positioned. If it's not at the top, the
page won't be scrolled to the top.
If the H1 isn't at the top of the content, then I'd say there's a pretty
good case for saying that the H1 is in the wrong place.
I meant
and right margin.
img { display: block; margin: 0 auto; )
IE 5.x doesn't support this method, but that shouldn't matter since it's
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in the near
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Terrence Wood wrote:
On 22 Feb 2006, at 2:50 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Outlook users should ...switch to a better mail client that isn't broken.
Outllok can be configured to send plain text can't it?
It can, but there are a variety of serious problems with Outlook that
make it an extremely
. Unfortunately.
Not natively, but Dean Edwards' IE7 script will add limited support for it.
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[1] http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/
[2]
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Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
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No, that just demonstrates how ignorant judges can be with regard to
technical implementations. The article states:
Off topic, but it made me smile thinking about my not so clued up higher
management going on about adding a GIF to pages to mean
. because they're already EMPTY in HTML and don't require end tags.
In such cases, the '/' is just handled as part of error recovery, the
browser doesn't keep looking for an associated end tag. The same is not
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pushing the other column
to the curb.
table { table-layout: fixed; }
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http://www.xs4all.nl/%7ewijnands/nnq/nquote.html
Note: Outlook users should get Quote Fix or switch to a better mail
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text/html to the client, even if there are benefits gained from working
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it comes to font sizes, it's better to be slightly too
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exactly that on DVDs and Videos, often
on porn sites where the user must agree to being over 18, etc. But from
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not to see new windows, then they must be ok with them?
[1] window.close(), on the other hand, is a pain in the *** thanks to a
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Ian Anderson wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Many users hate popup windows. There are no valid use-cases or
reasons for opening a popup window, don't do it.
I disagree with this statement. In my opinion, there are several very
good use cases.
Name one for which a popup window is the only
James Gollan wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Ian Anderson wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
I think generalisations like users hate popup windows are perhaps a
little unhelpful.
But the statement is 100% accurate...
It may be technically 100% accurate, but in that case so is the
statement users
Stephen Stagg wrote:
On 15 Feb 2006, at 12:28, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
What I really don't understand is that there are so many people who
participate in this and various other mailing lists, newsgroups and
forums that actively advise against using popups and explain why they
hate them, yet you
is a usability
benefit. Browser developers realised a long time ago that alert boxes
are useless and annoying. This is why they are moving the much less
obtrusive information bar approach.
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Jona Decker wrote:
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For what reason are they annoying? You can't just say something is
annoying because you think something else is better, you have explain
what it is about it that is annoying, and perhaps the issue could be
addressed to improve the method without resorting
Kevin Futter wrote:
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Many users hate popup windows. There are no valid use-cases or reasons
for opening a popup window, don't do it. If you think you have one, I'd
like to hear it, but know this: I've heard many excuses over the years
; }
But I think the best option is to completely disable the target
attribute to prevent the author from interfering with your decision and
make it yourself, every single time. You cannot possibly rely on the
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Jude Robinson wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
There are no valid use-cases or reasons for opening a popup window
Well...there's *one*: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/open_new_windows.html
No, Jakob is wrong about that one. I know, it's strage, he's rarely
wrong about usability issues, but he
Herrod, Lisa wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
The users! Please, won't somebody think of the *users*!
This line reminds me of something from my favourite show when I was a kid:
Fantasy Island. the plane, the plane! :)
Actually, it's a slightly misquoted line from Helen Lovejoy
application/xhtml+xml .xht .xhtml
(After doing this, you won't be able to view it in IE, only Firefox,
Opera and other descent modern browsers, but you will learn a valuable
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are trying to make here. There is no
difference between refusing access to someone based on physical/mental
disability (those that require assistive technology) and someone based
on their race, culture, religion, etc. It's unnecessary discrimination
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for an interesting discussion of why DTDs don't define
semantics.
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Angus at InfoForce Services wrote:
Most people have JAVAScript turned off,
According to what statistics? I think you'll find most people actually
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paranoia, I'm sure no-one would mind if you quoted it
fully. It sounds like they're probably sending the same template e-mail
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the user's
system decide what to do with the file. Some may have configured
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to quote at all) is often the
result users of broken e-mail clients (usually Outlook or some web based
mail). I find the best approach is to just set a good example, and hope
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Stephen Stagg wrote:
flashmovie{ display:flash;}
and then your document reads:
flashmovie src=file://a.c.v/me.swf /
This shows that you have very little understanding of how the display
property works; and probably little understanding of CSS in general.
That's already
right, except that in the end, we *are* catering for
humans. We just need to do so in a way that allows machines to
effectively pass on our messages to the user; and that is what requires
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, .customer-details tr { display: block }
.customer-details th, .customer details td { display: inline; }
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any element. Just add an id attribute.
div id=foo.../div
Then reference it with the fragment identifer like this.
a href=#foofoo/a
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technique in the future won't be the multi-column layouts, but
the new techniques being worked in the new draft CSS3 Advanced Layout
module [2].
[1] http://dbaron.org/log/2005-12#e20051228a
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-layout/
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