of Firefox 1.5 (DeerPark or
later) the Javascript Console also flags all CSS errors (including
properties that Gecko doesn't support, such as display:inline-block).
Another nightmare. (all those errors in those Google ads...).
Very useful for debugging, btw.
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apparently resize the font-size, a few needed
help from the staff.
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? It displays web sites, with the same quirks, bugs and
stupidities, same risks in browsing the web, same everything.
[1] I now run VPC 7 + XP on an old, tired dual 450Mhz G4; it isn't
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. There could be some
display bugs due to a particular OS configuration (Panther vs Tiger),
difference in font rendering, ... It shouldn't cause major layout
problems though.
PS - Jan, Safari v312 (1.3, Panther) beats Safari v412 (2.0, Tiger) by
35% in *my* stats.
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yet what the final release of IE
7 will do.
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support. It runs well on OS 9, even on
older machines with low CPU power and not much memory.
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your text pretty small, and
zoom up a few notches.
[1] browser is the Japanese developed Netfront
http://www.access.co.jp/english/products/nf.html
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System 8 (Mac OS 8).
And no Safari doesn't do it. That is a bug I filed ages ago (when
version 1.0 came out, iirc).
According to recent blog postings they are working on form widgets, it
would be about time they add this functionality.
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pane, you'll see a checkbox for that purpose.
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of the page, you have a p class=clear/p
make that p class=clearnbps;/p
(adding a non-breaking space in it).
Clear your cache, and try again.
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John is referring to this bug in IE Mac
http://www.macedition.com/cb/ie5macbugs/#whitespace
which is about the use of multiple classnames with the same substring
in their name.
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unexpected consequences. (I've just tested that for the style,
it 'looks' like it works, not sure about the behaviour of the element).
PS - the input[type=submit] {text-align:left} doesn't work either in
Opera 8 and Safari.
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Konqueror recent builds should support SVG as well.
Internet exploder: no support, except via the Adobe plugin. Maybe in
the elusive Longhorn.
As far as webstandards goes: no shift. You can use svg as a
background-image, or for a series of buttons, or...
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morbidly curious, it's at
http://www.kennygraham.net/reset.css
Because IE Win doesn't understand the keyword 'inherit'.
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the content will be visible.
what you probably want is setting some height in em/px/km/
then your overflow:hidden will have some effect.
If I'm wrong, please provide a test case (url).
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On 19 Jun 2005, at 6:10 pm, designer wrote:
Hi Chris,
Try border-collapse : collapse in your ul declaration.
Bob
Applies only to tables, or block level elements set to {display:table}
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(2.8.4) is available through Fink (package
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http://fink.sourceforge.net/index.php
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Note that I don't see any problem running Firefox 1.0+ latest nightly
build, at any zooming factor.
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border-property, is another fix that has been mentioned on CSS-D once.
As I said, I don't see the problem at all on my nightly build at
various zoom levels. Lots of work has gone in some of those rendering
issues (rounding errors).
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Note that with percentage width on the pre, I more than once had
problems with IE Win, requiring a wrapper div anyway.
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could add a font-family that does contain Cyrillic characters,
like 'HelveticaCY'
See this OS X font-list
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301332
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inline' to quote from a MS document.
[1] sometimes display: -moz-inline-box is an alternative. Sometimes.
[2] bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9458
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displayed.
Like: if it fixes inside the bounding box for the image. If the text is
too long, (ie a long long alt text) on a 20px by 20px image, the alt
text is not displayed.
Not Good.
When the alt text is displayed, it takes size and font-style from the
context.
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-block is not supported at all by IE 5.0 Win, if one
need to support that browser)
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I can't even tab past the first (embeded) movie using the latest
nightly builds of Firefox on OS X.
Do you know if there is any bug filed for this in Bugzilla ?
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section c12
It is valid for text/html (aka tagsoup). If you serve the document as
application/xhtml+xml, then the browser should ignore named entities
except the 5 ones (quot, amp, lt, gt and apos).
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solutions:
1/ delete the title form the print stylesheet.
2/ give both stylesheets the same title
(And IE doesn't support the title attribute for stylesheets).
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-- xhtml1.1
table border=0 cellpadding=1 cellspacing=0
..
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.l-c-
n.com%2F_temp%2Ftable_1.phpcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=I
nliness=1verbose=1
Doesn't mean it is a 'best practice' however.
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from IE Mac \*/
selector {property:value}
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is a valid attribute for html 4.01 and xhtml 1.0
strict and 1.1.
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cannot allow it.
And Safari, Opera, Camino, OmniWeb will all allow the user to resize
the text, no matter what.
You'll have to use an image, bearing in mind that Opera can resize that
as well, and there are some extensions to do it in Firefox.
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The problem is *less* pronounced if you move the image horizontally.
A solution is to space out the fragments of your sprite more, or put
them in an horizontal row.
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that one yet).
Some more reading matter:
http://weblog.delacour.net/archives/2005/04/
bitstream_vera_not_for_me_thanks.php
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this
issue?
a:focus is simply not implemented in Opera. It uses its own scheme, but
doesn't listen to the css :focus. It only works partly on form
elements, I think.
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display:-moz-inline-box, that is an internal alias to
inline-block that works sometimes.
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my commercial sites in
shift_jis. This provides less hassle, esp when dealing with forms and
cgi scripts.
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for display as
'inline'. I had expected 'block'.
This is the OS X default forms.css for FF latest nightly. (But those
setting go as far back as dec 2004).
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Based on the comments, I don't expect anything to change soon.
And, agreed, it doesn't make it easier to style the legend. :-/
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is using Mac OS 9.
The best browser available on that platform is Mac IE 5.
The most recent Mozilla build is the Wacom build (Mozilla 1.3.1), you
can get from here
http://wamcom.org/
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A quick look around with Safari 1.2 and Omniweb 5.0, I'd say yes.
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10.3.8
http://emps.l-c-n.com/misc/gretagmacbeth-select.png
(using customised widgets for OS X builds).
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style sheet with a 'title' attribute (alternate
stylesheets is another matter).
Delete the 'title' attribute from your print stylesheet link and
you'll be OK.
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I think that is an old list.
Also Safari supports RGBA colors - testfile:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/CSS3/transparent.php
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should I do? Anyone come across this before? BTW, I'm sending as
application/xhtml+xml for browsers that understand it.
In your case it seems related to the use of position fixed.
maybe file a bug in Bugzilla ?
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On 20 Feb 2005, at 6:10 pm, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
In your case it seems related to the use of position fixed.
maybe file a bug in Bugzilla ?
No need to file a bug, there is one already
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281455
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something like this:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/disp-table/equal-H-nav.php
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text-justify:inter-ideograph is very cool in IE for longer articles).
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On 17 Feb 2005, at 9:21 am, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
Because I really want to suggest multiple background images for
CSS3.0 (provided it isn't suggested already)
Has already been suggested in various ways on the www-style mailing
list.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/
Forgot
in
the right direction...
http://www.skyrocket.com.au/Concepts/Grindley/BuildingProjects.html
It is not a problem with overflow:auto; but with Safari acting up on
the ul adjacent to the floated images. Having the images part of the li
should help fixing the problem.
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by other things.
Take care of character encoding, and be aware that MS Office uses some
non-standard characters that only display fine in that browser (ahem).
Hope this get you started.
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users of
other devices.
Zeldmans top navigation use images, and does what the OP wants.
http://www.zeldman.com/
he uses absolute positioning and negative text-indent.
HTH
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wrong in my coding? The CSS XHTML validate.
the problem is the clear:left on you #container which is kind of
inherited in IE Mac
See
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of the space.
It should be * html rest-of-selector {property:value}
Note the space between the * and html.
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those
'weird' hacks, a bit of ASCII art is not bad to brighten a style sheet
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in Gecko, nor that
other browser.
Alternatively set both elements to display: inline, but it might be
problematic
depending on what other (inline) objects you have there.
Or float: left/right. Both create problems though, in this particular
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a are floated elements, again without a width, each block expands
to the full width of their parent.
Take a look at how I coded this navigation:
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Using inline-block instead of float to deal with IE Mac.
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be used to serve a style rule to IE Mac *only*.
Given the context mentioned by Helen, it might have been one of those
'be nice to Opera' hacks associated with the Tantek voice-family
filter.
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#firstAttempt ul#mainNav li a {
/* rest of styles */
line-height:normal /* - this fixes it in Mozilla */
}
Use padding (in px) to create the height of the line box.
http://dev.l-c-n.com/Gecko/moz_spacing.php
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for good measure and increased accessibility,
providing your image doesn't use tiny text, and has good contrast
between text and background ?
All my Mac browsers display the 'title' as a 'tooltip'.
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complex (CSS3) selectors, those described
in the CSS2.1 CR:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#attribute-selectors
The losers are the usual suspects.
(I personally love those pattern-matching thingies, and some other
goodies in the CSS3 selectors).
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spent (OmniWeb is a very nice browser,
compared to Safari - imho).
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lists though.
As a possible alternative, take a look at this one:
http://dev.l-c-n.com/Rfloatnav/slidingdoors.php
I use display:inline-block for IE Mac, and a few other goodies.
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collapses in height in IE Mac.
If you need to use the overflow property on the li here (and I'm not
convinced you need to), hide it from IE mac.
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, and it is extremely useful to
have on your local dev server, esp when you work with dynamic pages
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On 12 Nov 2004, at 4:17 pm, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
IE 6 surprises me :/
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_j/head2.html
A solution:
ul {_display:inline-block}
And IE 6 is beaten into submission.
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if I reduce each
float to only 100px wide it still happens.
http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/float2misc/#fm002
hint - the problem is with the #panel-wrap div
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. And I still find it more easy to deal with that browser than
with IE win.
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of the logo
image to the left)
Solutions ?
(I know that thing is way to long - not my idea, client even wants 4
more links in there)
TIA
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On 12 Nov 2004, at 3:23 pm, Chris Stratford wrote:
www.neester.com/beta/
The navigation menu has extra pixels in the margin after: JOURNAL,
CALENDAR and UNIVERSITY...
does this matches your problem ?
http://dev.l-c-n.com/Gecko/moz_spacing.php
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suggestions for a good hack?
I've been using CSS 3 media queries to serve Special Values for Opera
7.x
@media screen and (min-width: 0px) {
selector {property:value}
}
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doesn't really enables @media
for IE Mac; the rules will apply to all media if used.
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to the IE
Mac bug list (see sig).
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Doesn't work the same in IE. 5.2 for Mac - everything stacks
vertically and overlap each other
Float require a width !
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#floats
enough said
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the site was all broken.
It i not that bad... Give #leftcolumn a width and it will work much
better (at present, that column extend to 100% width of the viewport).
And add background colour to your body, lime green is probably not
what you want to see.
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. Omniweb
uses Webcore and doesn't rely on the Webkit frameworks.
Anyone running OS X 10.2 could check ?
Anyway, it is a bloody annoying bug.
[1] http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/colorCheck.php
[2] http://dev.l-c-n.com/safari/images/Safari_colourTest.png
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: allow sites to set
font-family of font-size on/off).
[1] granted, it is not as powerful as full blown user stylesheet, but
as Felix notes, only a few users are capable to manage a user
stylesheet.
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for me on Mac OS 9 Japanese localisation, both IE5.00 and
5.17 - as it does on IE Win (Japanese localisation), Gecko, Opera 7.x,
Safari, Konqueror3.2 (running on OS X, not 100% sure how reliable that
is).
Do you have the Japanese language resources installed ?
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Proud presenters of Web
and lang attributes, just doesn't know
they exist.
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adjustments to your markup, but
unfortunately
doesn't address the issue of images being turned off when CSS is left
on,
and it utilises a box-model hack.
A much better method imsho
http://www.ryznardesign.com/web_coding/image_replacement/#glrj
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, then the
syntax td+td+td will give a background colour to more than one column.
You'd need to add td+td+td+td to override the previous one.
[1] Safari, Omniweb5, Opera7.x, IE Mac and Gecko based browsers now.
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with text-indent and padding should work
fine.
Over multiple lines, maybe as
p:first-letter {float:left; height: /*image height*/; background: /*
path to image */; padding: /*image width*/}
might not be easy to get a consistent look cross browser.
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End user upgrades should be available soon for Firefox 0.9 and Mozilla
1.7, 1.4.
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://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/global.css)
So - is there some way of tricking IE for this excact type of listmenu?
li {float:left; width:100%; clear:both}. But this is better hidden from
other browsers than IE win.
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