Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Knowles
= It's not just you! - Very insecure - breaks all the rules Chris Knowles *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Knowles
submitting code. Chris Knowles *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Knowles
Paul Minty wrote: I'd like to see a microformat for this, and an external javascript, so that people who author these links without the aid of server side scripting can develop this user experience easily. Anyone seen anything like that? Cheers Paul heres a generic javascript function

Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Knowles
Kit Grose wrote: Just a note: Your function doesn't currently use the RegExp function for anything useful (you might as well use indexOf). RegExp is the right way to do it, though, so you can enforce word boundaries to match complete classNames only (if I want all a.pop to be new window

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Wilson
McLaughlin, Gail G wrote: We always ask the client if they require that the site comply with accessibility. The response ranges from What is accessibility? to we'll worry about that later to No! So you build poor sites unless specifically told to build them to standards? Ouch.

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
A private company should be able to do whatever the hell they like. Suit is without merit and frivolous. What's next, suing vehicle manufacturers for not providing a braille manual? I'm all for accesability, but there is no reason it should be mandated, and lack of is in no was discriminatory.

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Better yet, since not everyone can see, lets require all publications to include a braille copy, all musical artists to provide a written transcript of ever performance. That would of course be madness... Why should a different standard be applied to the web? On 10/3/07, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
... Cat On 10/3/07, Chris Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or do you think that your right to 'do what the hell you like' outweighs other people's right to be treated equally? Be treated equally? They have to CHOOSE to visit the site. So, because they want (want need)to do

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
If you are going to argue for standards and accesability, follow your own advice first. Captain table layout over here. You don't even have alt tags on your images. Hypocritical aren't ya? Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
bigeasyweb.co.uk ? There is no reason why an accessible site should cause blindness. On 10/3/07, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, October 3, 2007 11:18 pm, Chris Wilson wrote: I think my point is being missed entirely. I completely support standards and accesability

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
No, not madness. Instead, it would be a good way to bring art to audiences that might not otherwise know it. Yes, but once you start applying that logic inside legislated rules of presentation and usage (which is the issue here, or will be), a site can no longer be the art the artist desires.

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
As it happens, a Braille version of a publication is one of the least useful things you can do. In the UK only 2% of registered blind people read Braille. How many web users are disabled to the point of using screen readers (anyone using it by choice not by necessity doesn't count, that's their

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Oh, this mailing list has been stagnant for quite some time, needs a good argument if you ask me. :) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Those are all well and good, but utterly useless in a global marketplace. Should I be under your countries guidelines? Mine? What if I'm international? All of them? What if country As guidelines are incompatible with country Bs... Or should legislation hinge on guidelines proposed, created, and

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Williams
quite sure any of a number of people here would gladly help them accomplish that at their legal team's hourly rate :) Chris *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Speaking of ' logical fallacy' On 10/3/07, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are some of the worst analogies I've ever seen. The target website is not a work of art, it's not a mountain, it's not a car, it's not a drive up ATM, it's not a building. Not to mention the slippery

Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Chris Wilson
That's the same short sighted question asked when WYSIWYG editors were introduced. If something like this is making you fear for your career, you really need to reevaluate if you are even in the right feild let alone career. ***

Re: [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2007-08-16 Thread Chris Williams
You know, I belong to perhaps two dozen email lists, and this one and one other are the only ones plagued with the oof (out of office) notice problem. Yahoo groups, in particular seem to have this well under control. I am on something like ten Yahoo groups, with thousands of members across them,

[WSG] Dropdowns not working in IE

2007-08-13 Thread Chris Rahe
(for this part) is in the page HTML. Is it possible a conflict with the external file with the rest of the CSS is at fault? Like I said it works fine in Firefox, but IE won't drop down at all. Thanks! Chris Rahe Executive Director of Marketing and Development

Re: [WSG] Using target=_blank

2007-07-24 Thread Chris Price
are fairly ignorant of the ins and outs of web browsers and think the Google toolbar is the address bar) who find the back button just about the most useful and intuitive tool on their browser. What you're suggesting is contrary to the spirit of the WWW. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw

[WSG] RE: WSG Digest

2007-07-11 Thread Chris Skene
Is this the Web Standards Group or the We Spam Group? Christopher Skene E-Business Officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Land Water Australia knowledge for managing Australian landscapes Land Water Australia graphic Level 1, 86 Northbourne Ave, Braddon ACT GPO Box 2182, Canberra ACT 2601 phone +61

RE: [WSG] Select that goes to a new URL

2007-07-10 Thread Chris Taylor
Your select name attribute is New_URL but you're looking for a POST attribute called id. Change your PHP script to $_POST[New_URL] and it should work. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 10 July 2007 15:58 To: wsg

[WSG] Is this a good use of dl

2007-07-07 Thread Chris Price
ddpa href=[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a/p/dd dtskype:/dt ddp my skype/p/dd /dl /dd /dl Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825

Re: [WSG] Is this a good use of dl

2007-07-07 Thread Chris Price
what I want. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451 4488 Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder while Excellence is in the Hand of the Professional ~~~ -+- Sent on behalf of Choctaw

Re: [WSG] Re: Microformats was [ Is this a good use of dl ]

2007-07-07 Thread Chris Price
, and typically placed at the top or bottom of the document. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451 4488 Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder while Excellence is in the Hand of the Professional

Re: [WSG] scope, cols and colgroups

2007-06-30 Thread Chris Price
Nick Gleitzman wrote: On 30 Jun 2007, at 4:11 PM, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Surely you don't mean that ;-) On Sat, June 30, 2007 2:49 am, Chris Price wrote: My thinking was that my real aim is to make the data useful so just making it valid or logical may not be my prime concern. Yes, I

Re: [WSG] scope, cols and colgroups

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Price
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Jun 28, 2007, at 11:17 PM, Chris Price wrote: I have built a simplified table that illustrates this at http://choctaw.co.uk/tabletest/ Your page is invalid. 1. a colgroup cannot be nested in another colgroup http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#edef

[WSG] scope, cols and colgroups

2007-06-28 Thread Chris Price
that I want to know where my logic has gone wrong. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451 4488 Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder while Excellence is in the Hand of the Professional

RE: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Chris Taylor
on the page, which is frowned upon by some. Can anyone else expand on the reasons for that? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Web Man Walking Sent: 27 June 2007 09:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Page Structure Hello I am

RE: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-06-27 Thread Chris Taylor
Good point Tony. Your example with the branding in a p looks like the best one for this situation. I'm certainly going to stick to that for future projects. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Crockford Sent: 27 June 2007 10:09

RE: [WSG] Tackling tabular data + per row form input

2007-06-22 Thread Chris Taylor
-wise, but useful for users. Hope that helps Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C. Bergström Sent: 22 June 2007 08:42 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Tackling tabular data + per row form input Hopefully I'm missing

RE: [WSG] Tackling tabular data + per row form input

2007-06-22 Thread Chris Taylor
that's the choice I make. But it could be a whole lot easier. Anyway, good luck. Chris *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Chris Taylor
Cheers, I thought that when I went back to it as well. I'll get that done very soon. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thierry Koblentz Sent: 20 June 2007 17:49 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs

RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Chris Taylor
, of course. It happens regularly with me. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida Sent: 20 June 2007 15:52 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links? I put together a box that expands

RE: [WSG] Back to the Future

2007-06-14 Thread Chris Taylor
tissues ready and waiting in case I cry. Chris (30 years old today, but feeling at least twice that age) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alastair Campbell Sent: 13 June 2007 19:34 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Back

[WSG] Back to the Future

2007-06-12 Thread Chris Taylor
the way back to 1996 tables and spacer gifs? Or am I doomed to non-standards hell? Cheers, and wish me luck. Chris *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

RE: [WSG] Back to the Future

2007-06-12 Thread Chris Taylor
. My initial tests show that NN4.03 handles some CSS (float, background, border, font etc) but not some important things (list-style, margin and padding on lists). Is there a source for information about CSS support on old browsers? Thanks Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

2007-06-01 Thread Chris Williams
...the teacher is paying attention to the stupid, mute, blind, and crippled kids. Well, Mr. Compassion for the User... stupid, mute, blind, crippled? Nice choice of words... From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size the teacher is paying attention to

RE: [WSG] div hiding and expanding

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Taylor
. Take a look here, it's free to use: http://www.stillbreathing.co.uk/projects/performer/performer.html Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: 22 May 2007 16:39 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] div hiding

RE: [WSG] div hiding and expanding

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Taylor
. Take a look here, it's free to use: http://www.stillbreathing.co.uk/projects/performer/performer.html Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: 22 May 2007 16:39 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] div hiding

Re: [WSG] ive given up on css

2007-05-16 Thread Chris Williams
And THAT web page was last updated 5 years ago... From: Rob Wilmshurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] ive given up on css http://www.coolpage.com/cpg.html *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] problem with 1 and 1 wordpress blog

2007-05-06 Thread Chris Williams
://themes.wordpress.net for a few hundred...) from which to draw ideas. Using WP as your CMS system to build your whole site is a really clean, simple solution. I'm a huge fan of the concept. As for a local LAMP setup, I am using XAMPP (as was suggested) and it works great. HTH, Chris

Re: [WSG] problem with 1 and 1 wordpress blog

2007-05-06 Thread Chris Williams
As I said, none if this us anywhere near as hard as you're making it. Go into the theme's directory and open up the files. Change just a couple of small things and see how it changes things. You'll quickly see that this isn't complex. Dive right in. See below: From: dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread Chris Williams
I'm afraid I agree completely with Bill, on almost every point. See below: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Open Vision Subject: Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final] Sorry, but I still see a mess. Maybe worse than before as far as layout is concerned. Text size,

[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Skene
You can also solve the IE problem using conditional statements in your HTML: See http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/cc-plus.html For the gist Christopher Skene E-Business Officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Land Water Australia knowledge for managing Australian landscapes Land Water

RE: [WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-04-06 Thread Chris Rahe
for all your help. It's been invaluable. Chris Rahe Executive Director of Marketing and Development 1020 High Road - P. O. Box 8 Bremen, IN 46506 Telephone 574.546.8011 Facsimile 574.546.4312 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: [WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-04-05 Thread Chris Rahe
is http://www.bremenhospital.org/testsite/index2.html so you don't have to scroll through all the previous responses to find it. Thanks! Chris Rahe Executive Director of Marketing and Development 1020 High Road - P. O. Box 8 Bremen, IN 46506 Telephone 574.546.8011 Facsimile 574.546.4312

RE: [WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-04-05 Thread Chris Rahe
, but OMITTAG NO was specified. /script You may have neglected to close an element, or perhaps you meant to self-close an element, that is, ending it with / instead of . Chris Rahe Executive Director of Marketing and Development 1020 High Road - P. O. Box 8 Bremen, IN 46506

RE: [WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-04-05 Thread Chris Rahe
Awesome! That worked. Thanks! Chris Rahe Executive Director of Marketing and Development 1020 High Road - P. O. Box 8 Bremen, IN 46506 Telephone 574.546.8011 Facsimile 574.546.4312 Email - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message

RE: [WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-04-02 Thread Chris Rahe
That's great! I've made some changes and I think this design is almost there. But I can't seem to adjust the height of that top navigation bar. Does anyone know why there seems to be so much extra height? I even tried specifying 20 px in the #navigation, but that didn't budge it. Thanks! Chris

RE: [WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Rahe
and Mac, but now Safari is annoying me. At this point, I decided I can live with it, but if you have an easy solution I'd certainly be happy to hear it. Thanks again for all the help. Chris Rahe Executive Director of Marketing and Development 1020 High Road - P. O. Box 8 Bremen, IN 46506 Telephone

[WSG] Need help with CSS breadcrumbs and navigation

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Rahe
in a number of browsers, but now that I'm trying to add the breadcrumbs it's proving nearly impossible to get it to look right in different browsers. I'm sure it's probably something obvious to more experienced designers, but I'm at my wit's end. Thanks for any help you can offer. Chris Rahe

[WSG] stopping the email

2007-03-20 Thread Chris Cheetham
Greetings I signed up to this service a while back and I want to be removed but I don't know the password I signed up for the account with. If you could cancel the account for me that would be ace! Cheers in advance Chris Cheetham

Re: [WSG] Global and page-specific style sheets

2007-03-13 Thread Chris Williams
OK, I'll bite... Why is this better than one, nicely formatted and commented file? It would seem to me that your way would be significantly slower to load, and harder to find things in (where is that #main_title div again...). It would seem that there must be major advantages to this I'm not

Re: [WSG] doing things right

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Price
this up because I've just realized I have done the same thing with a calendar showing dates available. I've used css to indicate availability when the actual data tells me nothing. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js, document.submit IE

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Price
Gaspar wrote: I thinks this would help, http://www.friendsofed.com/download.html?isbn=1590595335 DOM Scripting he have somes examples it's allowed to download, in chapter 11 on contact.html see the example. And if u buy the book u will learn some good stuff . On 04/03/07, Chris Price [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Simple to use page layout 'tool' ?

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Williams
A pen and a yellow legal pad. Lightweight, portable, can be used on the airplane, available anywhere for under $5, available in a wide array of colors, understood by everyone, supports annotations of all kinds, and is the same sophisticated tool used by 99% of web designers world wide for making

RE: [WSG] Simple to use page layout 'tool' ?

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Williams
live feedback as they play with it. I prefer to just start with *something/anything* [hat tip to Tod Rundgren] and work from there. But clearly it's your client, and you have to work they way they want to work. Chris -Original Message- From: Nick Roper Subject: [WSG] Simple to use page

RE: [WSG] Simple to use page layout 'tool' ?

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Williams
I *was* the early poster... From: Dwain Alford Subject: Re: [WSG] Simple to use page layout 'tool' ? i agree with an early poster about the pencil and paper layout tool. *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] PopUp windows

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Price
and users, not the canons of WSG. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451 4488 Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder while Excellence is in the Hand of the Professional ~~~ -+- Sent

RE: [WSG] PopUp windows

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Williams
This sounds like a perfect application for Ajax. Have the TOC on the left, the actual document on the right... opens as you click through the TOC? Just a thought... -Original Message- From: Bob Schwartz Subject: Re: [WSG] PopUp windows Example would be a page with a sort of table of

Re: [WSG] PopUp windows

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Price
the pop-up link on his website and, of course, that brought the main window back into focus and hid the pop-up. Its easy to forget how frustrating some of these nifty tricks can be when you don't get the behaviour you expect. Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [WSG] tabular data

2007-03-06 Thread Chris Price
is not well constructed. There is no thead, tbody, summary, scope... and where the judges are highlighted with an image there is no data. Rather, a class is used to style the cell. Have you checked this against the spec for html tables on the W3C site? Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js, document.submit IE

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Price
Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob. 0777 451 4488 Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder while Excellence is in the Hand of the Professional ~~~ -+- Sent on behalf of Choctaw Media Ltd

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js, document.submit IE

2007-03-05 Thread Chris Price
a form so that I can post the information. The difference between IE and Firefox is interesting. It makes sense why IE didn't accept the instructions. Thanks for your help. Its fixed my immediate problem and got me a little further in mastering the DOM. -- Chris Price

[WSG] unobtrusive js, document.submit IE

2007-03-04 Thread Chris Price
('library_form') p = o.getElementsByTagName('div')[n] o.removeChild(p) } } function submitform() { document.getElementById('library_form').submit(); } Kind Regards -- Chris Price Choctaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.choctaw.co.uk Tel. 01524 825 245 Mob

RE: [WSG] Use of Enter key to naviagte between form fields

2007-02-27 Thread Chris Williams
It's not my client... it is Nick's. I'm just saying that for decades, heavy data entry programs have used enter to move between fields, and yes, shift-enter to move back. If they are converting an existing app to use a browser, the client may well prefer to change the app, not the 100 users...

RE: [WSG] Use of Enter key to naviagte between form fields

2007-02-27 Thread Chris Williams
have your answer: a very efficient (albeit stunningly boring) way to work. -Original Message- From: Nick Roper Subject: Re: [WSG] Use of Enter key to naviagte between form fields As Chris points out, the use of the Enter key is quite common in data-centric applications (which

RE: [WSG] Re: Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-21 Thread Chris Taylor
.html You may have guessed, for very large sites it's a whole lot easier to use a database! I use this technique to also map navigation, so nested menus (drop menus with sub-sub lists, such as About us Profiles Chris) translate to the correct page (about-us/profiles/chris/). The filesystem

[WSG] o 0

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, A accessibility/usability quirk was posed to me and led to a me neither response. I've yet to encounter a font for the web that has a distinction between the uppercase letter O and the number 0. If such a font exist, which is it? Respectfully, Chris

RE: [WSG] Web design education

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Taylor
/ are the ones I'm aware of (there are others, I'm sure). thanks Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

RE: [WSG] Re: Web design education

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Taylor
to happen and b) I will learn to keep my big gob shut :0) Regards Chris Taylor www.stillbreathing.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

[WSG] Web design education

2006-02-13 Thread Chris Taylor
? And, a larger question for us all: what are we as web standards and accessibility evangelists to do about the continued ingorance and apathy towards this vital subject, especially in academia? Let's hope that the recent Target website court case in the US highlights the cause. Chris Taylor

[WSG] Alternate Navigation

2006-01-30 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, It appears that a bid may be lost due to a client insisting on FLASH being used for navigation. The concern from this end is if FLASH is not installed or broken the entire site is DOA (Dead On Arrival). With the use of the object tag is it possible to include an alternate ul

Re: [WSG] Alternate Navigation

2006-01-30 Thread Chris Kennon
apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee On Jan 30, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: It appears that a bid may be lost due to a client insisting on FLASH being used for navigation. The concern from

[WSG] A Question of Slices

2006-01-29 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, I've a question regarding, preparing the navigational tabs for a ul background. Would someone take a look, offering suggestions on correct slicing so as not to leave it to ImageReady's, sometime non- standards solution? http://working.bushidodeep.com/remix/remix_bg.jpg

Re: [WSG] A Question of Slices

2006-01-29 Thread Chris Kennon
-rollovers.html Perhaps I'm complicating the issue, please expand on your reply. Chris On Jan 29, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Lea de Groot wrote: On 30/01/2006, at 4:35 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: http://working.bushidodeep.com/remix/remix_bg.jpg Interesting - its a fixed size image. Why slice at all? Drop

Re: [WSG] A Question of Slices

2006-01-29 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Thanks Lea Byte, Does this also beg the question, are the tabs to small? Both slicing suggestions seem valid, and which is most suitable will have to be proven in a UA. So thanks again, a good start for experimentation. Chris On Jan 29, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Lea de Groot wrote: On 30

[WSG] Drop Down Navigation

2006-01-27 Thread Audano, Chris
target=_topFlexible Spending/a/li /ul Chris Audano City of Overland Park Information Technology 913-895-6069 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [WSG] Google HTML Check

2006-01-27 Thread Chris Dimmock
And congratulations to John Allsopp for having his earlier research cited by Google! Did anyone else notice that Google finally put paid to the rubbish urban legend metadata meta name=revisit-after ? Chris Dimmock http://www.cogentis.com.au/ On 1/26/06, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[WSG] Font Replacement With PHP

2006-01-26 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, I recall, although from where unsure, a standards compliant method of embedding a font within a site with PHP. Can someone shed some insight on this? __ Respectfully, Christopher Kennon Principal/Designer/Programmer -Bushidodeep bushidodeep (http://bushidodeep.com/)

Re: [WSG] Screen-Print-Wireless

2006-01-25 Thread Chris Kennon
On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Miika Mäkinen wrote: By wireless do you mean mobile and pdas? Problem is that most of the PDAs will include stylesheets they shouldn't (@media screen). I've found that the only way to do good contents for mobile is to server different pages. Hi, This was

Re: [WSG] Screen-Print-Wireless

2006-01-25 Thread Chris Kennon
On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Nic wrote: Any suggestions on creating stylesheets specific to wireless? Well, obviously, declare your css with media=handheld, then style your page accordingly :) Always a good place to start, smarty pants :) So it seems advantageous serving the same

[WSG] Screen-Print-Wireless

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Any suggestions on creating stylesheets specific to wireless? The object is one site served to (3) UAs. Return True, Christopher Kennon Principal/Designer/Programmer -Bushidodeep http://bushidodeep.com/ __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply;

[WSG] CSS background problems in IE6

2006-01-20 Thread Chris Taylor
) is being repeated, then doing all manner of strange things when the menu is rolled over. I've had a look through QuirksMode but not found quite the same problem. Can the wise persons on this esteemed list please point me in the right direction? Many thanks Chris Taylor Senior Web Developer

[WSG] Title Attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, My understanding of the title element appears shallow. Usage of the title attribute within an Object , Frame and link is well documented. However, when I encountered it with p title=some titleSome Text/ p my was took on a wide-eyed look of embarrassment, as I was unaware of its usage

Re: [WSG] Title Attribute

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Kennon
Thanks, The impression I'm getting from the replies today are title as an attribute, has inconsistent interpretation by most UA's. However, as an element it is essential to the document. Is this interpretation correct? Respectfully, Christopher Kennon Principal Creative Director

[WSG] Scrolling A Div

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Kennon
:) Respectfully, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Safari Lightening Entire Background Image - FIXED

2006-01-13 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, So the problem was resolved with the re-saved images alone, or in concert with changes to the CSS? Respectfully, Christopher Kennon Principal Creative Director -Bushidodeep www.bushidodeep.com On Jan 12, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Mani Sheriar wrote: Thanks all, especially Nick Cowie who

[WSG] OT:Javascript/DOM Mailing List

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Would someone share their booty of a JS/DOM standards based mailing list? Happy New Year (Better Late Than Never), Chris Kennon ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Safari Lightening Entire Background Image

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Would the screenshot being in .png cause a difference? In photoshop check your color setting in the save for web window, it could be a gamma issue there? Also confirm the flattened image does not have a color profile. Nice site, all things aside? On Jan 12, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Mani

[WSG] Server-side includes?

2005-12-18 Thread Chris Lamberson
I suppose I have always very much disliked server-side includes, for no reason I can immediately think up, they just seem like bad form. But if I really think about it, it doesn't matter what goes on as long as it gets to the client in a standards-compliant, semantically correct form. A business

RE: [WSG] Pipe separated lists

2005-12-13 Thread Townson, Chris
Chris Townson wrote: what a list looks like or how you want a list to look are irrelevant in the context of this debate. also irrelevant is whether the pipe or vertical bar has accrued implied or associated meaning through (ab)use. semantic mark-up is about utilising the most

RE: [WSG] Pipe separated lists (was: CSS foul-up in IE)

2005-12-12 Thread Townson, Chris
etc. end of story. Chris DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is confidential and should not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-09 Thread Chris Dimmock
Michael Cordover's comments were the correct answer. :)Here is an excerpt from an Interview with Matt Cutts, Google engineer, just last month:Q: In more general terms, what do you think is the relationship between Google and the W3C? Do you think it would be important for Google to e.g. be

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-09 Thread Chris Dimmock
in context of Google's market share - its a huge amount of bandwidth. Either way - small coding issues (and vaildation/ use of semantic code etc) are going to meana lot of bandwidth when looked at in light of that kind of volume... Best Chris a href="" href="http://w

RE: [WSG] CSS drop down box pushes down following content

2005-12-06 Thread Chris Harrington
Here are some excellent resources 1. http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ 2. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns/ (original version) 3. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

[WSG] getElementById() always returns null

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Lamberson
Through foresight, i already know this will be a very pitiful question to real web designers, so bear with me.I was having some trouble finding out why, whenever I call for document.getElementById(id), it returns null (even if there is a valid id-matching element). Consider something simple, like

[WSG] Learning asp.net with standards

2005-12-03 Thread Chris Kennon
regarding CSS implementation in the .net framework, leaves me with the question how best to guide this student on utilizing web standards with .net technology? A great opportunity exists to usher someone into best practices. Respectfully, Chris

Re: [WSG] firefox 1.5 is official

2005-11-30 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi Jay, What extensions are you running. You can reply off-list, if desired. Chris On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Jay Gilmore wrote: Felix Miata wrote: Does the Web Developer Extension run in it with your old profile without fussing with it? I've been using both, but web dev only

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