Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Huh? So you're saying both servers don't return a Content-Type? What's the url? (and in the meantime complain to the admins of the boxes) The content-length of the first one seems a little small. 10677 bytes is only about a second of audio. also as a side note, when

[WSG] Re: [off-list] positioning definition list elements site check needed

2005-03-09 Thread Erik Peterson
Btw, this is something that I would definitely avoid having in my javascript files: function pasuser(form) { //password form if (form.pass.value==support) {location=referrals2.htm} else {alert (The password you entered is incorrect. Please try again. For more information call

Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Helmut Granda wrote: Here are the site tests that I am doing Doesnt work on IE or FF: IE- Fails Server 1 http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch2.html Ok... this site is producing vastly different to the headers you previously posted. There's now - perhaps magically - a

Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Helmut Granda
Matthew, Thank you very much for taking the time to respond and help. Your links are great resource! One thing is for sure that the server www.multimedia.net will play in IE and FF because it has the mp3 headers correct, while www.hamsterballstudios.com has the headers incorrectly. So to

Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF

2005-03-09 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Helmut Granda wrote: So to recap. 1. headers in multimedia247.net are set up properly 2. headers in hamsterballstudios.com are not set up correctly 3. code does not validate - solution 1. fix the headers in hamsterballstudios.com 2. fix HTML So my fears that

[WSG] RE: clear:both vs br clear=all

2005-02-24 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: clear:both vs br clear=all ha! Cancel this, I just fixed it... FYI br class=clr / -Original Message- From: Jamie Mason Sent: 24 February 2005 11:35 To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: clear:both vs br clear=all In Firefox, this; HTML div class=clrnbsp;/div

Re: [WSG] Re: firefox bug?

2005-02-21 Thread Alan Trick
Interesting, I thought I had replied to this. But no, it is no longer an issue. I just changed my margins on 'div#header p' into padding and now it is all good. Thanks for the help. Rosemary Norwood wrote: Is this still an issue? Looking in my FF 1.0 it's nicely up there against the top (I

[WSG] Re: firefox bug?

2005-02-18 Thread Alan Trick
Sorry, I forgot to include the link: http://www.cgemery.com/new -Alan Trick Alan Trick wrote: I've been working on redesigning a website and I have a bug where there is a bit of space at the top of the body that won't go away. I'm not sure it it's padding or margin or what, but I tried setting

Re: [WSG] Re: firefox bug?

2005-02-18 Thread Rosemary Norwood
Is this still an issue? Looking in my FF 1.0 it's nicely up there against the top (I assume you mean the nav links back - login - privacy - contact us.) Rosemary Norwood Blackwork Web Intelligence ** The discussion list for

[WSG] RE: Multiple list via CSS - newbie question...

2005-02-18 Thread Devendra Shrikhande
As I did some of my own poking around, I went ahead and increased the width of the disc-list and found that I could then eliminate the short wrap that is inherited from the menu list. So does that mean that I need to have a width declaration for every other list style - I thought if I was using

[WSG] Re: unsubscribe

2005-02-12 Thread Jorge Laranjo
Oops... WRONG LIST. PLease ignore this and the other message. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:49:44 +, Jorge Laranjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 please unsubscribe me from this list. thank you take care. - -- Atentamente, Jorge Laranjo site

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-09 Thread Andy Budd
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Sorry, ended up being a cyclic argument, but you see what I mean...and *that's* what Andy meant (if I may be so bold as to make an educated guess) That's exactly what I meannt. Go for your life :-) Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Andy Budd
Ian Fenn wrote: Thanks for that, Douglas. Unfortunately my client has accessibility guidelines that insist the pages are built in XHTML Strict. So what do they believe the accessibility advantages of XHTML Strict are? As far as I'm aware valid and semantically correct HTML is just as accessible

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Ian Fenn
Hi Andy, So what do they believe the accessibility advantages of XHTML Strict are? As far as I'm aware valid and semantically correct HTML is just as accessible as XHTML strict. And I'm guessing they probably aren't serving their pages up as XML so strictly speaking they are serving their

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Geoff Deering
Andy Budd wrote: So what do they believe the accessibility advantages of XHTML Strict are? As far as I'm aware valid and semantically correct HTML is just as accessible as XHTML strict. And I'm guessing they probably aren't serving their pages up as XML so strictly speaking they are serving

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Geoff Deering wrote: There are a number of advantages to using HTML/XHTML Strict. [...] If you use transitional, that is exactly what you are doing, and you may need to do it, strict may not work for your design because of current lack of support and other things, but you are using a DTD that is

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Peter Firminger
Can I just offer an opinion here. When thinking of semantics it sometimes helps to go back 20 years and use pen and paper. If you were writing a big list (numbering each item) in a small notepad you would, on successive pages, keep the numbering going. So on the second page, the first item may

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: I think what Andy meant (as I've got a feeling he's well in the know when it comes to css and separation of content and presentation) is what the advantages are if you can effectively write strict code while still declaring a transitional doctype. Yes, transitional

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Jalenack
Hey, I'm new here :-) In response to Geoff's email, XHTML is the web standard of the future. If we implement it now, we are just helping move it along faster. A friend of mine recently created a php script that makes your XHTML into HTML for browsers that cannot support it. You can check it out

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread James Bennett
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:49:55 +1100, Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please explain why you would use a transitional DTD where a Strict one is valid and works just as well? Depends on the client and how they'll be maintaining their site; I've handed sites over to clients before who were

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Geoff Deering wrote: That is a misconception. There are differences to the way a rendering parsing engine will work with the different doctypes. Ok, let's narrow down the field to the core issue: what are the rendering differences between XHTML1.0 Transitional and XTHML1.0 Strict? Ok, now the

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Paul Connolley
On 9 Feb 2005, at 00:49, Geoff Deering wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: There are *no* inherent benefits to tableless, css driven layouts in XHTML strict versus tableless, css driven HTML (strict or transitional) or even XHTML transitional. That is a misconception. Provided the XHTML document has

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Geoff Deering wrote: That is my point, not all these other arguments about where to or where not to use transitional or strict. However, that *was* the point of the original question. To recap: something can't be done in strict which is not presentational, but nevertheless has been dropped from

Re: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread James Bennett
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:50:56 +1100, Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a document that validates as doctype Strict, then why declare it as transitional? For what reason are such decisions made? That is my point, not all these other arguments about where to or where not to use

[WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-07 Thread Douglas Clifton
Ian, Why not switch to XHTML Transitional for the page that you want to use the start= attribute on? I outline this technique on my website. You don't have to be using PHP to do this, you can simply cut and paste the correct DTD. http://loadaveragezero.com/vnav/labs/PHP/DOCTYPE.php Doug

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-07 Thread Ian Fenn
Douglas wrote: Why not switch to XHTML Transitional for the page that you want to use the start= attribute on? Thanks for that, Douglas. Unfortunately my client has accessibility guidelines that insist the pages are built in XHTML Strict. All the best, -- Ian Fenn Chopstix Media

Re: [WSG] Re: MSN redesign

2005-02-01 Thread Anthony Timberlake
But at least it looks like they were. It is better than that crowded horrible page that they used to have. On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:55:56 +0100, Raffaella Biscuso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Timberlake Scrive: I like it, but it leaves room to improve. They are a large company and

Re: [WSG] Re: MSN redesign

2005-02-01 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Actually, it's kind of ironic that they would even consider trying to use standards when those very standards are so poorly executed on their own product(s). Maybe there's hope...I just won't hold my breath. I'm sure after this experience, they'll add a few of their own new standards buried deep

[WSG] Re: browser snapshot services?

2005-01-26 Thread Tim White
I've never used a snapshop service, but it seems an un-necessary expenditure. You can easily test all PC variations. I've got the latest versions of Opera, Firefox (and Mozilla); all flavors of Netscape (4.x - 7.0); and IE 4 - 6 on my PCs at home and work. There is a handy tutorial for how to

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
BUT - for development purposes wrapping is far more readable. Same way that code indenting is a nice thing to do but serves no practical purpose. Of course, if you're very concerned about page size (kb wise) the wrapping, indenting etc are just pointless wastes of space. Most of my pages are

[WSG] RE: newbie with popup menus question

2005-01-24 Thread Devendra Shrikhande
Andreas, David, Boss, et al: Thank you for taking the time to respond. Your comments have certainly helped. Had forgotten about the invisible load associated with adding those popup menus and the need for an alternate navigation system is JavaScript is turned off. Cheers! ¤ devendra ¤

[WSG] Re: double space after period

2005-01-23 Thread Antonio Bueno Delgado
Hello, John, What do you think? First of all, can this be done in CSS? Secondly, is this even proper with (X)HTML documents? Not with CSS, unless you have all periods or sentences surrounded by a tag. And about being proper, I see it as a typography convention, not anything X/HTML related.

[WSG] Re[2]: double space after period

2005-01-23 Thread Antonio Bueno Delgado
Hello, all. Multi-message comments follow: David R: AFAIK, the all the non-markup specific entities (ie: the ones that aren't: quot;, amp;, lt;, gt;) have been depreciated, if not removed, from XHTML2.0 since being based on XML means Unicode should be used. While the W3C says should not be

[WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-23 Thread David R
I was referring to wrapping text on the markup site: Like so: pHello, this is wrapped, like so, do you see?/p rather than: pHello, this is wrapped, like so, do you see?/p In both cases, UAs will render the content exactly the same... I was wondering if there were any advantages to the former... I

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
In both cases, UAs will render the content exactly the same... I was wondering if there were any advantages to the former... I heard something about some obscure UAs ignoring content beyond the 80th Column or something myth. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-23 Thread Michael Cordover
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:23:58 -, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In both cases, UAs will render the content exactly the same... I was wondering if there were any advantages to the former... I heard something about some obscure UAs ignoring content beyond the 80th Column or

[WSG] Re: [WD]: Re: How Do I Learn to do Website Design?

2005-01-20 Thread Bruce
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: snip Unfortunately, I can't recommend any sites or books at this time -- I don't have many beginner sites bookmarked, and my beginner books are all quite old at this point! ... One of the best sites I have seen is W3Schools, they have a lot of tutorials and working

[WSG] Re: [WD]: Techniques for Search Engine Optimization [SEO]

2005-01-20 Thread Bruce
Christoph Herrmann wrote: Well, many blogs are! I am just writing an article about blogs and how they can be used to create search engine friendly content. Think about it: And yes, I have successfully built sites this way and they are at the very top of Google rankings for their targeted

[WSG] Re: [WD]: How Do I Learn to do Website Design?

2005-01-19 Thread Bruce
I was just at dreamweaver website. Templates. No doctype, tables, imagemaps and javascript. God forbid. Randomly choosing four of them and viewing source showed me quite enough. Lets go backwards??? Font face font size the whole works of what we are trying to get rid of. Someone new would be

Re: [WSG] Re: [WD]: How Do I Learn to do Website Design?

2005-01-19 Thread David R
Bruce wrote: I was just at dreamweaver website. Templates. No doctype, tables, imagemaps and javascript. God forbid. Randomly choosing four of them and viewing source showed me quite enough. Lets go backwards??? Font face font size the whole works of what we are trying to get rid of. Someone

[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-01-08 Thread Erwin Heiser
I definitely like the new look of your page. No question. I am not a big fan of those dropdowns, though. Why do I have to click on the primary item to get the dropdown? It forces the user to make an additional click that is not really necessary. The good old mouseOver would do the job much

[WSG] Re: Search Engines/Spiders and SSIs

2005-01-04 Thread Tom Livingston
My apologies for the _very OT_ topic. I got my lists mixed up... :-P If you happen to have any insight on this however, off-list replies are welcome. Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com On Jan 4, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: Hello all, Can

[WSG] Re: stylesheet switching in IE6

2004-12-29 Thread Erwin Heiser
Title: Re: stylesheet switching in IE6 Ijust cracked it, IE was chocking on the lang=en statement inside div lang=en class=en (in the XHTML code) in combination with this statement div:lang(en) in the style sheet. I remembered that IE doesn't suppport pseudo classes on anything but an anchor.

Re: [WSG] Re: stylesheet switching in IE6

2004-12-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Erwin Heiser wrote: Ijust cracked it, IE was chocking on the lang=en statement inside div lang=en class=en (in the XHTML code) in combination with this statement div:lang(en) in the style sheet. I remembered that IE doesn't suppport pseudo classes on anything but an anchor. For what it's

Re: [WSG] Re: stylesheet switching in IE6

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:36:26 +, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erwin Heiser wrote: Ijust cracked it, IE was chocking on the lang=en statement inside div lang=en class=en (in the XHTML code) in combination with this statement div:lang(en) in the style sheet. I remembered that IE

[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org (Out of office )

2004-12-22 Thread Wayne Whittaker
I am on holiday !! Back on the 10th of Jan. Contact Adrienne Foley for urgent stuff. __ This message contains information, which is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If

[WSG] Re: Standard for text email newsletters

2004-12-08 Thread Laura Carlson
I've been using the TEN format as a navigation aid for screenreaders in my Web Design Update Newsletter for over two and a half years now. All user feedback has been positive. Some comments from subscribers regarding what they like about the TEN format: - Attention to accessible-friendliness

[WSG] Re: image captions again

2004-11-23 Thread designer
Ignore my last message - I realised I'm putting a block level div in an inline p Duh! :-) But I don't know how to get around it . . . . http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/imagesintext.html Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

Re: [WSG] Re: image captions again

2004-11-23 Thread Gary Menzel
Use span instead of div. That seems to give a more pleasant outcome. Regards, Gary On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:10:35 -, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ignore my last message - I realised I'm putting a block level div in an inline p Duh! :-) But I don't know how to get around it . . .

RE: [WSG] Re: image captions again

2004-11-23 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Ignore my last message - I realised I'm putting a block level div in an inline p Duh! :-) But I don't know how to get around it . . . . Close the paragraph before you open the div and start a new paragraph after the div. Putting the image with alt and caption inline (with span as

[WSG] RE: [css-d] label problems in Netscape 7, input problems in Safari 1.2

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Drake
I just downloaded and installed netscape 7.2 and everything looks fine. It probably was just a 7.0 thing. Ted Drake wrote: *** I noticed some problems with Netscape 7 and Safari 1.2 and I wanted to know if anyone had any ideas. Here is the browsercam public page to look at the screen shots:

[WSG] RE: legend formatting issues

2004-11-16 Thread Ted Drake
So, I've been sitting here blaming my legend for the page falling apart and I think I need to apologize. I'm sorry legend, I may have been wrong. Do you forgive me? Well, that makes me feel better, but it doesn't solve my problem. I threw some borders on my divs and elements and

[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-11-12 Thread Laurie Keith
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RE: [WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-11-12 Thread Patrick Lauke
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[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Alan Milnes
Taking a stab in the dark, I'd guess that all you did was change the content type meta to it. Well...that's not the way to do it. It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the article you reference: Oldie but goldie on the subject:

Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Joshua Street
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 20:28, Alan Milnes wrote: So does anyone have a link to an article which can tell me how to properly serve up application/xhtml+xml using PHP? Jeroen Visser shared http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ as a link before... that tells you how. The

RE: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Patrick Lauke
From: Alan Milnes It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the article you reference: Oldie but goldie on the subject: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html Aeh...where exactly? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster /

[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Alan Milnes
It may not be the way to do it but it's the way it's taught at the article you reference: Oldie but goldie on the subject: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html Aeh...where exactly? It's in the section Accommodating legacy browsers and the PHP code is:- ?php if (

Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Jeroen Visser [ vizi ]
Alan Milnes wrote: So does anyone have a link to an article which can tell me how to properly serve up application/xhtml+xml using PHP? Jeroen Visser shared http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ as a link before... that tells you how. The datestamp on the message was Thu, 11

Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Jeroen Visser [ vizi ]
Alan Milnes wrote: Why is the content-type not sent? What errors or warnings does PHP display? What content-type _is_ sent? What problems does Firefox have? Some possible reasons for this script not to work: - headers are already sent out by PHP; - one ore more conditions are too narrow or wide

[WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Alan Milnes
Thanks to everyone for all the help, suggestions and links. I've amended the code from http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ to send IE XHTML 1.0 and if anyone wants to borrow it then it can be found at:- http://www.college.gameplan.org.uk/wsg/mimetype.txt Alan

Re: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-11 Thread Simon Jessey
- From: Alan Milnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: [WSG] Re: It's all in the MIME Thanks to everyone for all the help, suggestions and links. I've amended the code from http://www.workingwith.me.uk/articles/scripting/mimetypes/ to send IE XHTML 1.0

[WSG] Re: Font-size issue on Mac

2004-11-10 Thread John Penlington
Many thanks for the help. Problem is now solved. The site's authorresponded greatly relieved (as is the coder!): But yes! You have identified the problem! It's the font size, which I hadreduced to 12. For your info, the author was using the following: Verdana? yesIE: 5.1.7OS: 9.2.2 I

[WSG] Re: Flyout menu questions

2004-11-08 Thread Laura Carlson
Some references: http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/navigation#menus Laura ___ Laura L. Carlson Information Technology Systems and Services University of Minnesota Duluth Duluth, MN, U.S.A. 55812-3009 http://www.d.umn.edu/goto/webdesign/

RE: [WSG] Re: Flyout menu questions

2004-11-08 Thread Pringle, Ron
Thanks all for your responses. I left off tackling the final navigation til last because I knew it was going to be an issue that needs a lot of thought. My current thinking, after reviewing the responses, is to break the navigation down by each section. If I make the nav section an editable part

Re[2]: [WSG] Re: Flyout menu questions

2004-11-08 Thread Iain Harrison
Monday, November 8, 2004, 10:10:04 PM, Ron wrote: The main issue there will be trying to balance easy access to nested information without frustrating the user with unusable navigation. I suggest that you have a high-level menu for main (section contents?) pages, and a fine-detail menu for

[WSG] re: Another site review

2004-11-04 Thread Bennie Shepherd
is this a language declaration? html lang=en xml:lang=en xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; and also not sure what the lables are for the form pages. I would like to get comments on my site. It looks fine in winXp ie and firefox, the code is all valid and accessible (though it could use a

[WSG] Re: [WD]: Re: Display large images in photo gallery

2004-11-04 Thread designer
Hi Bennie, Nice site. Good to see a change from three column layouts with a banner at the top! :-) However, looking at your markup, I see you've got a certain amount of classitis and divitis! You have, e.g., got lots of li tags, all classed as menu [ li class=menu]. Could you not incorporate

Re: [WSG] re: Another site review

2004-11-04 Thread Susan R. Grossman
is this a language declaration? html lang=en xml:lang=en xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; Yes - and also not sure what the lables are for the form pages. Labels are an accessibility feature. The WSG has an example of an accessible form at

Re: [WSG] re: Another site review

2004-11-04 Thread Susan R. Grossman
is this a language declaration? html lang=en xml:lang=en xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; Yes - and also not sure what the lables are for the form pages. Labels are an accessibility feature. The WSG has an example of an accessible form at

[WSG] Re: IE6 + float bug

2004-10-31 Thread Conversant Studios
apologies to bother thee crew... was just an extra float in the center column that was throwing it out. have a great sunday night! Benvlio p.s. the silent is the master of the hasty Ben Webster Conversant Studios

[WSG] RE: Content moves on hover in IE

2004-10-28 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi, I'm having difficulties with that IE shift bug thing. The one where the content moves when you hover over a link. I've tried adding _height:100%; _line-height:100%; _width:100% To every element in the div to no avail. Example here: http://www.websemantics.co.uk/workshop/sessions/session2/

[WSG] Re: Web Design for PDA?

2004-10-19 Thread Isabel Santos
Thank you all, so very much! I gess I'll have a long study night, it won't be as easy as I first thought it would (gess it was kind of naif), but all this info you shared is valuable. I gess, if we can put standard code, to work properly, in a cross platformand browser maner, including pda

[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-10-18 Thread Trick . JR
I still keep getting these digest emails even though I unsubscribed. Please take me off your list. Thank you. Jim Trick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14, October, 2004 13:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: digest for [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-10-18 Thread Indranil Dasgupta
Hi, just do this. Send an email from your subscribed account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with set mode digest wsg (no quotes) as the BODY (not subject) and it will be so. And you will just receive one email every few days or so containing every mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still keep getting

Re: [WSG] Re: Text Escaping from Floats

2004-10-15 Thread Matt Andrews
hi Natalie, just delete the height rule from the .floatleft div. that way the divs will expand to contain the text. in fact, Mozilla and Firefox are behaving exactly as the standards say they should - it's IE that is getting it wrong by expanding the div beyond your stated height. On Fri, 15

[WSG] Re: Safari bug - calling CSS that is not there messes with p

2004-10-13 Thread J Rodgers
ARGH; http://pole.uwaterloo.ca/cpadev/engtest/bugs/callingcssthatisthere.html http://pole.uwaterloo.ca/cpadev/engtest/bugs/callingcssthatisnotthere.html - messed up On 10/13/04 12:12 PM, J Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pole/cpadev/engtest/bugs/callingcssthatisthere.html - should

[WSG] RE: One remaining problem with header

2004-10-12 Thread Lyn Patterson
Thanks to Russ this is now fixed - a missing end tag - I should have validated before posting. Thanks Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

[WSG] Re: Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-08 Thread Alan Milnes
Ian Hickson is _not_ saying XHTML is harmful, he is saying that serving up XHTML with the wrong MIME type is bad. I've read the article and what I don't understand is that if it is so bad why is it acceptable to the Validator? I write my pages in XHTML with a XHTML 1.1 doctype and send the

RE: [WSG] Re: Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-08 Thread Geoff Deering
From:Of Alan Milnes Ian Hickson is _not_ saying XHTML is harmful, he is saying that serving up XHTML with the wrong MIME type is bad. I've read the article and what I don't understand is that if it is so bad why is it acceptable to the Validator? I write my pages in XHTML with a XHTML

[WSG] RE: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

2004-10-05 Thread Peter Goddard
Title: RE: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth? I would discourage anyone from keeping with old mark-up habits where tags are left open. It is a legacy from browsers that ignored such semantics. Don't count on a browsers 'interpretation' of the DOM to get it right, feed the browser good code and it

[WSG] RE: Left and right: inline content...

2004-10-05 Thread Ted Drake
Try putting them in a dl This isn't semantic, but could work. dtABN 72797798055 /dt dda href=http://validator.w3c.org/check/referer;XHTML/a/dd dda href=http://validator.w3c.org/check/referer;XHTML/a/dd dda href=http://validator.w3c.org/check/referer;XHTML/a/dd dda

[WSG] RE: Left and right: inline content...

2004-10-05 Thread Ted Drake
Try using a dl. It wouldn't be semantic, the objects are not that related, but it would offer you the style flexibility dl dtABN 72797798055/dt dda href=http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer;CSS/a/dd dda href=/accessibility/Accessibility/a/dd /dl dl {width:100%;} dt {display:inline;

[WSG] Re: Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth?

2004-10-04 Thread Genau Junior
Thank you everybody. Paul, Torrence, Nick and others . I understood the semantic order. - Original Message - From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth? At 05:19 PM 10/4/2004, Parker

RE: [WSG] Re: Free Editors

2004-09-17 Thread Michael Kear
.com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amit Karmakar Sent: Saturday, 18 September 2004 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: Free Editors And speaking of Macromedia itself how accessible

Re: [WSG] Re: Free Editors

2004-09-17 Thread Amit Karmakar
AUD$20/Year -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amit Karmakar Sent: Saturday, 18 September 2004 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: Free Editors And speaking of Macromedia itself how accessible is http

Re: [WSG] RE: Jad Madi Web Standards Planet

2004-09-13 Thread Jad Madi
Thank you Steven, I agreed with what Steven said, I got some weird replies like http://validator.w3.org/ could be a good start, and why its table based layout, and so on However, in general the reaction was more than great, but I have few words Actually I had a list of url that must visit

Re: [WSG] Re: broken navigation bar in Opera

2004-09-09 Thread Isabel Santos
It works! Thank you so mutch! Isabel Santos - Original Message - From: Irapuan Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: [WSG] Re: broken navigation bar in Opera At 06:26 9/9/2004 +0100, Isabel Santos wrote: I'm

RE: [WSG] Re: delayed rendering of containing div's background colour

2004-09-09 Thread Richard Lake
Thanks Hans. I've tried that, it didn't work unfortunately. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Hans NilssonSent: Friday, 10 September 2004 12:06 a.m.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] Re: delayed rendering of containing div's

Re: [WSG] Re: delayed rendering of containing div's background colour

2004-09-09 Thread Tom Livingston
: Friday, 10 September 2004 12:06 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Re: delayed rendering of containing div's background colour Hey Richard! Try and remove the background-color:transparent; from the float's.. the div's default background is transparent anyways... _ Hans

[WSG] RE: PHP, FORMS and XHTML validation

2004-08-26 Thread Steven Clark
Well first I'm a goose cos I never turned sessions back on (so the test was flawed but then I was tired so it evened out I guess hehe). re: http://www.blog.lindenlangdon.com a) is proven that the change from relative to absolute url did nothing to cure the problem - even though at one point

Re: [WSG] RE: PHP, FORMS and XHTML validation

2004-08-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
James Ellis wrote: There is a setting in your php.ini file to turn off auto propagation of your session id's via URLs (enable_trans_sid I believe). This is good for validation (if you are having amp; problems in URLs) and very good for security. Correct me if i'm wrong, but: without trans_sid,

Re: [WSG] Re: PHP and XHTML 1.0 Strict

2004-08-26 Thread Mordechai Peller
east wrote: There is an issue with session generation through a web form and validation. Automatically creating a session that is to be passed through a POST creates a hidden input field directly after the first form tag. Since in XHTML, a form requires that a block level element (like

[WSG] Re: PHP and XHTML 1.0 Strict

2004-08-25 Thread east
There is an issue with session generation through a web form and validation. Automatically creating a session that is to be passed through a POST creates a hidden input field directly after the first form tag. Since in XHTML, a form requires that a block level element (like fieldset) enclose

[WSG] Re: Xhtmlandcss.co.uk Email

2004-08-23 Thread Mark Harwood
Hi All, I've just bought the Domain XhtmlandCss.co.uk and wanted to offer email forwarders to anyone intrested in one? I know its not what i should really use the list for but i just wanted to offer it out to y'all Just email me what you would like and where you would like it forwarding

Re: [WSG] Re: Xhtmlandcss.co.uk Email

2004-08-23 Thread russ - maxdesign
Please reply to Mark directly offlist as this is offtopic Thanks Russ Hi All, I've just bought the Domain XhtmlandCss.co.uk and wanted to offer email forwarders to anyone intrested in one? I know its not what i should really use the list for but i just wanted to offer it out to y'all

Re: [WSG] RE: Image replacement techniques for linked elements

2004-08-16 Thread Chris Blown
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 23:44, James Ellis wrote: What I've done is probably not done often but it is worth considering. Firefox ships with its minimum font size turned off. I also use the very same setting. It can be a common adjustment for people who use XFree86 or X.org under unix ( and

[WSG] Re: You have subscribed to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-08-16 Thread ikon
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RE: [WSG] RE: Image replacement techniques for linked elements

2004-08-15 Thread Peter Ottery
Title: RE: [WSG] RE: Image replacement techniques for linked elements James wrote: I have my minimum font-size set to 12px, so websites can't set text I can't read (or see for that matter) - like 6px :D. I think this is rendering your (ed: smh.com.au) plain text headers to be 12px

Re: [WSG] RE: Image replacement techniques for linked elements

2004-08-15 Thread Rick Faaberg
websites can't set text I can't read (or see for that matter) - like 6px :D. I think this is rendering your (ed: smh.com.au) plain text headers to be 12px - and they are appearing over the image headers on the smh.com.au home page ... making both types of headers unreadable. GOLD medal to

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