Hello WSG List Members,
I am delveloping a website that can switch between english and
itallian. I am wondering if I should be using en-GB or en-gb for my
lang attributes
and also for the meta http-equiv=Content-Language content=en-GB /
are these attributes sensitive to casing? or should I
Robin Berjon wrote:
Geoff
Deering wrote:
Does anyone use transparent content
negotiation to handle multiple language sites? I get the feeling this
is hardly ever used, if so, why not?
The problem IME is that when you use it you have to also provide a way
for the user to pick
I would use Flash to play the audio and provide an alternative link to
the sound file as alternative content
thanks SS
Stevio wrote:
I have a sound file that my client wants me to put on his web site. It
is a radio advert that they currently have running.
The format of the file is m4a (mp4).
Hi List,
I visited the www.makepovertyhistory.org website last night and was
pleased to see that the site uses Geoff Sterns FlashObject. This seems
to reaffirm my opinion that the flashObject method of placing flash in
the page is more approprate than the MM object / embed code and flash
Message-
From: sam sherlock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 May 2005 17:13
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] make poverty history website
Hi List,
I visited the www.makepovertyhistory.org website last night and was pleased to
see that the site uses Geoff Sterns FlashObject
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So.
On 5/19/05, Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nancy Johnson wrote:
Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so
why?
Because Flash is a proprietary product!
So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only
This tangent has gotten quite interesting and turned out to be very
informative indeed
here is a basic prototype of a site I am making, still early doors yet
http://s107442706.websitehome.co.uk/kos5/flash/
I am using flashObject to place the swf in the page. users with a
version of flash
last week i poted a question on this topic asking list members what
they thought of the variousmethods of embedding flash
below is a link to flash object so far it has never failed any test
posed to it
http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best-practices/
Ian Fenn wrote:
I wrote:
I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked
fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the code to work from my server.
I forgot to add that it crashed with a _javascript_ error - object expected.
All the best,
--
Ian
http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best-practices/
if your not adverse to using some javascript, no ones be able to prove
any draw backs to using this system yet
certainly much easier than merthods you re trying!!
designer wrote:
OK, I'm getting a bit
I would try youngpup.net and may be shaun innman
atb Sam
Peter Ottery wrote:
i really like this accordion show/hide script...
http://openrico.org/demos.page?demo=ricoAccordion.html
.. and am thinking it might be useful for a really long list of FAQ's on a page.
this particular example relies
Hi All,
I have been using flashObject for some time now
I have heard that satay does not display the object until the movie is
loaded
also I have found it to be quite hard to work with, and flash object is
soo simple
I strated a thread a while ago asking if anyone knew of / could
What I would like to be able to do is detect to see if the user has the
proper support
for web standards and if not redirect them to a version of the site
using old skool junk HTML
---
Owen Briggs used a style class named .ahem set to display: hidden which
links
Thanks for the responses.
I agree with the points being made so far I am relucant to maintain two
sites
(actually I am using PHP to rebuild the junk from the XHTML semantic
site and will be adding a full flash version too :) but this is not a
php list )
Bert Doorn wrote:
Why? What benefit
it was eariler in the discussion
Bob McClelland
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote:
if (!document.getElementById)
{window.location=/v4/?dom=false}
Bret Lester wrote:
Curious--how do you check for DOM?
BL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
further more part of my stratergy is too use some kind of php sniffer
script
like http://phpsniff.sourceforge.net/ - not straying out of the remit
of this list check the following stats produced
property_name
return value
ua
mozilla/5.0 (windows;
I found this CSS on a site www.kiss100.com quite interested to know how it
behaves in browsers, though it is heavy javascript
I often use a .reset class which i gather is to serve the same purpose via a
different approach.
.clearfix:after {
content: .;
display: block;
height: 0;
clear:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rowan Lewis wrote:
Or how about the much simpler more correct method?
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html
is there something wrong with standards mode?
dwain
thanks to all you sugestions on this 1 - great help
atb Sam
I believe that you need to do something like the following
window. {
stripe('playlist', '#fff', '#edf3fe');
}
atb S
Drake, Ted C. wrote:
Hi All
I've been trying to get a straight answer for this question from our
_javascript_ person but haven't gotten it yet. I hope this is
bullet proof here also
Dean | eCreate wrote:
If anybody out there has Win 2000 running IE6 could you check this URL:
http://www.stthomasaquinasacademy.org/
I am getting one report that it is loading but then hanging up IE.
Thanks,
Dean
I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.
http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/
I would like to know what the list members think of the site critism /
praise and other comments
atb - Sam
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ciao,
Zulema
Z u l e m a O r t i z
w e b d e s i g n e r
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
website : http://zoblue.com/
weblog : http://blog.zoblue.com/
browser : http://getfirefox.com/
sam sherlock wrote:
I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.
http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/
I
with my aims and research
can members be descriptive with critism? please
many thanks Sam
David Laakso wrote:
sam sherlock wrote:
I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.
http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/
I would like to know what the list members think of the site
Not much
and of course time)
personally I find it strange that he has choosen to use both sIFR and
flashObject
atb Sam
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
sam sherlock wrote:
I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.
http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/
I would like to know what the list members think
Hi
I have been using the following:
/* clear this fix */
.clearThis:after {
content: .;
display: block;
height: 0;
clear: both;
visibility: hidden;
}
/* Hides from IE-mac \*/
* html .clearThis {height: 1%;}
/* End hide from IE-mac */
more information at
As far as I know web browsers for os9 are limited
however against my expectations you should be able to get a build of
firefox / mozilla
here
http://www.mozilla.org/download.html (scroll to the bottom of the page)
safari camino are only supported in osX as far as I know.
atb Sam
Drake,
I have been using FlashObject for sometime now, indeed I have posted
here before asking what members of the list think of the technique.
You may be interested to know that makepovertyhistory.org uses the
flashObject technique, as an alternative there is also ufo
i spotted this in the css
div#thumbnailheaders dt dd {float:right; width:100px;}
should'nt it be
div#thumbnailheaders dl dd {float:right; width:100px;}
atbSam
Rachel Radford wrote:
There are many ways of making a css rule so that different browsers see it
differently (do a google search
Hi,
You should check out
the creamweaver task force sit
There are a number of
adjustments and customisations you'll need to make
http://webstandards.org/act/campaign/dwtf/
atb Sam
Angus at InfoForce
Services wrote:
I
do not know if this is off topic for this list. Just incase
I think your question should be rephrazed a little
table based sliced image html (as seen in david seaguls book Killer
Websites)
Vs
Webstandard 'Tableless' CSS design
table based sliced image layout
pros
easy to produce consistant layout
may even use images instead of text (at the
You can leave out the xml prolog, its IE messing things up again (yet
again - over and over)
if you choose to put it in IE (aka inferior explorer) will use
quirksmode and ignore all mannor of things such as absolute
positioning, and a whole raft of other things, other compliant browsers
will
I thought it was not possible, since flash is suppose to be rendered
outside the browser and place on top by the OS
at least for windows anyway.
I use flash some times and am not dead against it, I viewed you example
in disbelief not expecting it to work
I did in IE.
I think it would in FF,
Hi,
Just to put the cat amongst the peigons - some of the points raised are
valid IMHO.
and by the by so is the mark up. I think he is off mark on the use of styles
My position is about temperance - moderation
‘reality in the field’ and not some ivory-tower specification - the
reality and
Any site using sIFR in FF cramps the text into an unreadable mass, the
flash is not used and I am left with illegible text
I have flash block installed, sIFR detects flash block and does not
display the flash. The css leaves he text unreadable
is this only me?
Drake, Ted C. wrote:
or so sublte its unnoticable and it increases the overall complexity of
the site
SS
kvnmcwebn wrote:
'And I agree Sam, having movement like that behind text is one of the
worst
things you can do.'
I think that was meant as an example.
If this trick is used in a more ambiant way it
I have noticed that
some repeated background are not displaying in IE 5.5 since everything
else works I was wondering if the background issue could be resolved?
Also the perspective
from IE Mac is messy the styles are not applied or have obscure
results. I am not on mac so testing is a
no need for replies just thought this would be of use to many of you
http://www.siteprocentral.com/cgi-bin/feed/feed.cgi
all the best - S
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"The current version of IE for Macs is effectively
three
years old, making it an outdated browser compared to its Windows
equivalent."
like the current version of IE on windows is not outdated?!
Richard Stephenson wrote:
Well you have probably all heard about this already but Microsoft
Example:
ADDRESS
Newsletter editorBR
J.R. BrownBR
8723 Buena Vista, Smallville, CT 01234BR
Tel: +1 (123) 456 7890
/ADDRESS
with whatever styling provided by CSS you care for.
for more details see the link below
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html
tee wrote:
Hi there,
I am
I have just installed the web developer tool bar for internet explorer
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038displaylang=en
its gonna come in real handy for me, I have'nt seen a post on WSG
atb - S
I have a wrapper div containing a base display I want the base display
to extend to
the full height of document or screen which ever is greater
However the background image in the base display is cropped when
scrolling is required
this only occurs in FF, Safari and Opera - not in IE. I have
Hi,
A while back I made a site which had invisable text in IE, this was not
intended I could
not figure out why either I had never seen it before nor since until it
happened on Snook.ca
Below is a screen shot from an article on snook. I have cropped the
same area of the screen in
I came across this the other day also . Since flash was colliding with
my use of sweet titles.
I was advised to set wmode to transparent, I works I am not begruding
that but is there
any logic to this. Surley wmode would just allow you to see through the
flash object if set
to transparent.
wmode=transparent is something you want to look at
earlier versions of safari does not support that, also you have issues if
there is active content in the flash which competes for space with active
content in divs that over lap.
I would curb your enthusiasm as much as possible so as not to get
Hi,
something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!)
and always when you least need it :)
you could try
textarea {
margin-left: -200px; /* though this would be best in an
IE-fixit.cssstylesheet using ie conditional comments */
width: 70%;
height: 12em;
font-family: helvetica, arial,
works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000
I click the beige links and get pdf's
- S
On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem!
Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?!
- susie
On 14/5/07 12:04 PM,
/07, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not the links on the calendar that don't work - it's the links in the
left nav. Not sure why but it's something to do with the h2 because taking
it out fixes the problem.
On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:58:37 +1000, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
works
it on the site and it's fine in IE7. If you
want to give it one last look in IE6 that'd be wonderful (but I am sure I
can find someone somewhere here at UQ with IE6 if you can't!)
Thank you so much!!
- susie
On 14/5/07 1:43 PM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, for me too.
sorry to say. However
Hi,
I am like you merely trying to keep a grasp of the situation
I have glanced over this article today
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/05/10/70-expert-ideas-for-better-css-coding/
featuring some ideas from Rachel Andrews.
and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but its still not
I have mixed feelings over this site, on first appearance I like the look
esp the header and the colour changes
Though I don't think its appropriate for the BBC, especially when alot of it
seems to be a carbon copy of other sites.
I hope there will be an option to theme the site 'classic' - so
Additionally you can use something like CSSTidy in that case
I am using cssTidy for just this. A simple php script that puts all
required css in buffer and writes a single file used by the page. For JS
I am using JSMin in the same way
with gzip etags also loading times improve
looks like another quagmire is about to open up;
funny how I still feel that I am getting over ie6
2008/4/29 Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Don't fix or change anything in your site to be compatible with a beta
version.
The beta version is available so that developers can report problems to
As many have already commented I apply caution when using flash (because of
it creates extra work, because users like Sven disable it by default and
much more besides)
The thing is some clients care initially more for the visual appeal (things
bouncing around etc) of websites and not for features
learning curve:
Create the Flash:
Then along comes 'A Visitor' and disable all your hard work..*doh
Kate
http://jungaling.com/bichons/
http://jungaling.com/Malaysia/
http://simplyborneo.com/gardenforums/
http://jungaling.com/katesplace/
- Original Message -
*From:* Sam
) content can be useful/attractive.
(Emphasis on 'can'!) Some people (probably a lot) really like that sort of
stuff ... :)
- susie
On 7/5/08 5:03 AM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I take the point of view that web pages are created to communicate with
your audience.
thats how I
that timbuk2 is great.
wholeheartedly agree about the small fonts and poor contrast
though this is designers getting carried away with things, and pleasing
their own egos
often I get asked by clients to create a flash intro for a site, with
cinematic ambitions they describe what they had in
debugging is easier and the license fee is a lot
lower :)
its all to easy to end up a blind alley with flash
also flash often allowed designers to ensure cross platform display
Opera 9.5
looks great - very slick and dragonfly will be amazingly advantageous :)
2008/5/7 James Ellis [EMAIL
iPhone can do better
does'nt support flash :)
2008/5/7 Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
some BIG usability NO-NOs I see on a lot of flash sites.
intro pages (one of my pet hates - I HATE waiting ... and I'm sure I'm not
the only one! - they are pointless and should be BANNED! - if you
or try 64 squares
http://64squar.es/
wish i had the time :)
2008/5/10 Svip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Not only Mac users are locked out (of course, so are Linux users,
etc.), but also users of older Windows. And you didn't even mention
Vista!
MSN in my opinion has too many users for the service
up as a ? when it's
unknown rather than mangled as ’
has caused me truma in the past.
now I use UTF-8 aiming to entifyand quotes aswell as £ and such
dealing with large amounts of content thats been created in a wyswyg editor
can be quite an
issue erronus classes nbsp; also some
all I have to do is create had to do was create a new profile and set
shortcuts to
load ff3 with the new profile.
heres some info
http://blog.codefront.net/2007/08/20/how-to-have-firefox-3-and-firefox-2-running-at-the-same-time/
2008/6/18 Sajan Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It will replace the
have a look at
http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/developer-tools/list-o-matic/
I think your going to need to set the width of the ol (and the li inbetween)
set the margin of your ol to someing like
margin: 5px auto;
get firefox+firebug as it will allow you to test styles in firebug
chris's suggestion looks simluar to particletree's rediscovered button
element
button type='submitspanSubmit/span/button
http://particletree.com/features/rediscovering-the-button-element/
2008/7/15 Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Taco Fleur wrote:
I have a question in regards to
ok - seo is a bit like voodoo to me
the following sites seem to be contray to suggestion
http://wordpress.org/ .com - h1 with text-indent: -1000px
http://www.alistapart.com - h1 with img alt text same on various pages - a
duplicate on all pages (AFAIS)
http://www.zeldman.com - h1 with
Old Mac Users are stuck I tried to a get a friends mac online and using
Yahoo Mail (around the time a ymail dropped support of that browser) it had
ie5 and nothing would work at all, no other options it was a second hand
(supposedly cost effective machine) phazed into obselence. I frequently see
Any bets for it being done in time to watch the 2018 World Cup on an HTML 5
video feed?
in a ie browser without any fudging?
my initial response was only if Google are in position to take over
Microsoft before that date, but...
hated that.
Sent from my iPhone
On 14 Jun 2010, at 16:34, Sam Sherlock sam.sherl...@gmail.com wrote:
That's an industry education project in itself.
indeed it is and Microsoft was forced to inform windows users of the choice
of browsers a little while ago
BBC Click reported that one XP
Dan I would look past per-site design choices such as that.
and look into the neat and beneficial features which are many and various
(also the example in use there is outdated compared with the code on github)
the site has the initial release of html5boilerplate where as the github
repo is
Kroc Camen video for everybody
http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody
I think Steve Jobs is thinking about everyone using Safari browser (or
another modern browser that support h.264 not ff3.6 but ff4 will maybe,
chrome does)
but in reality for now such modern browsers are not as wide
transitions with css
here http://timvandamme.com/ some icons use transition with css with in .
vcard
in firefox the icons just use hover active
- S
On 29 September 2010 01:12, cat soul cats...@thinkplan.org wrote:
On Sep 28, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Sam Sherlock wrote:
Kroc Camen video
to Flash, so perhaps a critical mass is forming...
I do feel that flash has its place, but that it was a mistake jumping in
head first as the web seemed to do over flash so many years ago.
cs
On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Sam Sherlock wrote:
transitions with css
here http
@patrick yes pinning tasks is an example of what does not need to be done -
flourish added by microsoft for extra flare :) - bet that was the result of
some blue sky idea in some board room / focus group; more reason for ie 9ish
being on xp (50% users)
@mike some of the eloquence/stats I was
Also you can get opera mobile emu for pc or mac :)
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2010/04/22/get-the-opera-mobile-emulator-on-your-mac-or-pc
and the info for the Samsung Emu is here (think this is the appropriate link
for what Tee mentioned)
Sectioning within Aside
Yes. These section would have a title
as seen on html5doctor
http://html5doctor.com/aside-revisited/
aside.extras contains sections
also this maybe useful to you
http://html5doctor.com/wp-content/uploads/HTML5Doctor-sectioning-flowchart.pdf
- S
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