Re: [Zen] Fwd: The Gateway to Chan Wisdom - II

2010-10-26 Thread Anthony Wu
JM,   I am not going to pick up any other books. My question is about the words by your Chan Master.   Anthony --- On Tue, 26/10/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: The Gateway to Chan Wisdom - II

RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
Chris, I confess I haven’t read any of ZEN AND THE BRAIN, and don’t intend to. However, I encourage you and others to read and discuss it if you wish. …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChrisAustinLane Sent: Monday, October 25,

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ChrisAustinLane
Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:25, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: However, I encourage you and others to read and discuss it if you wish. Fortunately, the forum is an entertaining outlet for my writing and reading desires without the give and take over

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ChrisAustinLane
Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Oct 25, 2010, at 18:19, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: All in due course. Cool. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups

RE: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, No, I wouldn’t drink freshly brewed coffee immediately. I’d put cream in it first…Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:21 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Zen, Self,

RE: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
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Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-26 Thread ED
siska, Welcome to the Zen Forum. If you like what you have just seen, you must be (at least partially) enlightened. The Buddha might say: Seventeen trillion events transpired in the course of that interchange. I look forward to your joining in the conversations. --ED --- In

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-26 Thread ED
Bill, That's an illusory red-neck perspective. ;-) --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Ed, This is a good example of 'a can of whoop-ass! Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com /group/Zen_Forum/post?postID=xWZxIe_-uLCmWDoLxQEQ_vMs7bzcEvQwAYb2nfGs1N\

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ED
Bill, The differences in pronouciation signify class difference, which were/are a huge issue in England (and the world over) in conjugal alliances. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, billsm...@... wrote: Mayka, It's from an old song entitled LET'S CALL THE WHOLE THING OFF. It's

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ED
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Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
That's fine. I, having spent a good amount of time in book groups, find that 'give and take' over a book that multiple people have read, never fails to bring me some understanding of perspectives I would not have arrived at in seclusion. Not every one's cup of tea, I'm sure. (Another

[Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ED
Your post in April 2010 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/message/18653 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/message/18653on 'Zen and the Brain' did not grab me - and, it appears, not anyone else either. Had you posted one or both of the two reviews I have recently posted here

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
No, I am a layman. I do read Scientific American and Science News (a weekly) and my wife used to be an experimental psychologist (I have some very pretty PET scans of my brain doing memory load tests). I did take some science classes in school, but more math, physics. I stopped taking biology

[Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ED
Chris, do you possess an academic background in neurophysiology/neuropsychology etc. ? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote: As this thread shows, I initiated such a conversation in April, but found no fellow readers. It's ok, as I posted else where

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
Oddly enough, you actually posted three replies to my initial post, none of which confessed to have reading it however, so I ignored them. I don't really have a shortage of articles and stuff to read - I have a shortage of people that have read the same stuff I find interesting. --Chris On Tue,

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ED
And, you would agree that zen suggests that one 'Carpe Diem', regardless of the ambiance one finds oneself in (and has most probably contributed to creating)? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@... wrote: I, having spent a good amount of time in book groups,

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Maria Lopez
Anthony:   There is also beer without alcohol in Spain.  Not sure if in the UK but in Spain definitely is.  My younger sister told me and tried myself while I was there. Similar taste as the one with the alcohol.  Beer is  a drink never enjoyed much on its own.  the way I like it is in very hot

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
If anything, zen suggests to me Not Always So and to look at the given situation, not relying on pre-formulated rules. Carpe Diem fits the situation sometimes, definitely. --Chris On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:17 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: And, you would agree that zen suggests that

Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-26 Thread Maria Lopez
Anthony: Sinners are in minority.  .  The  word sinner has been changed for unmindful and applies both genres.  Before there was a private confession and now we confess in the Internet forums .  And in some of them the moderators give even a zen,  buddhist or whatever absolution!.  The same

RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Maria Lopez
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Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread Maria Lopez
Chris:   I'n familiar with that colloquialism as it's used a lot of here. The greatest difficulties are all those American expressions and slang.     Thank you all the same.    Mayka --- On Tue, 26/10/10, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote: From: Chris Austin-Lane

RE: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-26 Thread Maria Lopez
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[Zen] sitting and science

2010-10-26 Thread S. Jennifer Gray
I haven't written here previously, but there is a struggle going on here I hope to assist with, maybe a little bit anyway. My husband, Zeera (Zee), is almost 75, and he has spent most of his life attempting to unite scientific truth and spiritual truth. Science and spirituality are explorations.

Re: [Zen] Fwd: The Gateway to Chan Wisdom - II

2010-10-26 Thread Anthony Wu
JMJM   If words are unimportant, why do you keep posting here?   Anthony --- On Tue, 26/10/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: The Gateway to Chan Wisdom - II To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date:

RE: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-26 Thread Anthony Wu
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Re: [Zen] sitting and science

2010-10-26 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
One of the most spaciousness connection to spirituality and science that I have read. Thank you Jennifer for taking the time. It gave me a warm feeling. Indeed, as long as we can accept everything with open heart, our heart is the collective hearts of everyone. Please continue to post.

Re: [Zen] sitting and science

2010-10-26 Thread Anthony Wu
Jennifer,   Thank you for an interesting post. It is great to unite scientific truth and spiritual truth, if at all possible. To make your post more impressive, it would be fine, if you give more specific examples.   Anthony --- On Wed, 27/10/10, S. Jennifer Gray jennifer_g...@rogers.com wrote:

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread ChrisAustinLane
On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:33, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: Fair enough: You do what you do (set up requirements) and you get what you get (no interaction). Well said. The Buddha made no such demands, but skilfully interacted with people at their level of knowledge and

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
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Re: [Zen] Questions, questions, question

2010-10-26 Thread siska_cen
Hello Ed, Thanks for the welcome :) I am not familiar with the terms being used here, especially when you all are discussing about buddha nature, zen, the Law and all that. The way I understand it from this forum, there are no fix definitions for the terms anyway and I somehow feel that is

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
, calmness and wisdom need not be instituted. And there are no need for rules, multi-fold paths, vows, dogma, rituals or attachment to the concept of karma. Entiende? Kao Jai? ...Bill! __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5565 (20101026

RE: [Zen] sitting and science

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
 mistakes, but we can if we want to.   Trying to be useful, writing this helped my consciousness anyway, thank you kindly, Jennifer     __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5565 (20101026) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus

[Zen] My new poem

2010-10-26 Thread Timgoes
ATrip To The Well byTim Harris 10/26/10 Iask for the water to spill from the well toallow me to tell some secret wishes, insightsfrom heaven and hell. Withouta light Iclimb down to a higher height shakesome things free. Thosereflections could be me. Fivedecades past Petalsunfolded,