hi bill...coming in loud and clear... yours in zen..merle
Everyone...
There has been a drastic drop-off in traffic since Yahoo! implemented a new
format for its Groups including the Zen Forum. I assume this is mainly due to
difficulties in accessing the forum and not a lack of interest.
go to facebooki will not be interested...merle
Hi, Bill, List
Not very much about Zen, but my experiences in
other groups
Yahoo new surface is different from the other, and
myself finds the old one more easy.
But as some others said, maybe is to make it look
more like Facebook.
good one
Merle
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PRESENT...merle
here
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:07 PM, larry maher lcmahe...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you might be wasting your time. Nobody lives here no more. Not sure y?
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
Whoever reads this post please REPLY.
. I'm living in a four bedroom,
2/12 bath wilderness 70 miles above NYC.
The Buddha to you
Larry
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
PRESENT...merle
here
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:07 PM, larry maher lcmahe...@gmail.com wrote:
I think
there is a 'you' that is separate and
distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else follows from there such
as logic, reason, judgment, categorization, time, etc...
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 bill...which intellectual characteristics
bill...which intellectual characteristics?..merle
KG,
That's why I said seems to be. I have know way of really knowing. In fact I
do think some animals share some of our intellectual characteristics. And
maybe in that respect also share some of our delusions.
...Bill!
--- In
the ability to
experience their environment have 'True Essence which can also be called
Buddha Nature.
...Bill!
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bill..i see..very human type of understanding. what about animals and
vegetation... have they true
yea bill...you hit the nail on the head...full marks to you!..merle
Mike,
I think you could also say that humans are the only beings that actually need
to make an effort to become self-realised by following the Dharma. All other
sentient beings of which I know seem to be already doing
the destructive bit.
Mike
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mike..what are you attempting
from there such
as logic, reason, judgment, categorization, time, etc...
...Bill!
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 bill...which intellectual characteristics?..merle
Â
KG,
That's why I said seems to be. I have know way of really knowing
so. who creates the good and the bad? need i say humans?..merle
And humans are self-aware and capable of pondering all things good and bad.
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
mike..what are you attempting to say?...humans
right..why bother with the brain at all?... merle
On 9/14/2013 5:20 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
thinking...really bill..must it be discarded full stop?...merle
Spiritual questioning (self-inquiry), ultimately serves only to
reveal the illusion (for those with eyes to see
@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
Â
 thinking...really bill..must it be discarded full
stop?...merle
Â
Merle!!! BINGO
Buddha taught that 'all sentient beings have Buddha
Nature'.
Humans aren't the only beings that are sentient
really...so you are busy avoiding the truth...shakespeare one of your
gurus?..merle
Merle,
'There is no good or bad. Only thinking makes it so' - Shakespeare.
Mike
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there is a 'you' that is separate and
distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else
follows from there such as logic, reason, judgment,
categorization, time, etc...
...Bill!
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 bill...which
is it possible to survive day to day in our present civilisation
egoless?...merle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egolessness
full screen pleasehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH6WkQcRBZA
about 'there is no path' yadayada). As for
vegetables, they make a good addition to any Sunday roast.
Mike
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so what is true essence?...merle
I agree with this the way I interpret it ... But I say it a lot more clearly in
my book...
Edgar
On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Bill! wrote:
Here's a nice one posted especially for Edgar for two reasons:
1. to see if he's still around
2. to
bill..i see..very human type of understanding. what about animals and
vegetation... have they true essence too?..merle
Merle,
I believe in zen (and Buddhist) terminology Buddha Nature is the same as
true essence in the subject graphic.
...Bill!
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hi joe..no rain, early spring..hot yesterday herald first fires... in this
hawkesbury/ blue mountains area...cheers merle
Hi, Bill!, and thank you for the kind welcome.
I don't see the usual Zen Forum masthead: I see a view of the onion-domes of
the Kremlin, an image set to serve to
hi joe...merle
Joe,
Welcome back. Traffic on the forum has been slow and muted lately. Is that
what you mean?
...Bill!
__
thanks for sharing..good advice...am ill at the moment... lung
infection...merle
FEELING THE INNER BODY
Although body identification is one of the most basic forms of ego,
the good news is that it is also the one that you can most easily go
beyond.
This is done not by trying to convince
enjoy...merle
Subject: Fwd: ▶ (Track 8) Tiny Tim Live in Vancouver 1968- On the Good Ship
Lollipop - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYn15X4Qzvc
From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com;
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Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: the human body
Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2013 8:57:54 AM
because i can and it's fun!..i do not follow the norm mike..do
you?..merle
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because i can and it's fun!..i do not follow the norm mike..do
you?..merle
Your definition
!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 bill...meaning what?..clarification please..merle
Â
Larry,
I agree most of what you posted here, but would like to add that most people
however choose security over freedom.
...Bill!
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happening.
Mike
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Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:27:37 AM
mike...i see..so no deity and no painting legs
good idea... it's nature doing what nature does best...merle
And the law of jungle was in full force I.E. no fat people and few old.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
harmony and balance is the key..merle
Dictatorship or Chaos. Take
, slogans etc. All
those are blockages to God if you truly want to find him. I know little but I
do know one thing spirituality is not what we THINK it is!
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
who said god was a preconceived idea? merle
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who said god was a preconceived idea? merle
mike..
your not following my thread..
either you are playing hide and seek or you just plain don't get it...
but that's ok..
we all have our difference of perception..
dats whata makes ze world so zingy pingy..merle
Merle,
what planet are you coming from??
The one that took
mike
not all is as it appears...merle
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/non-sequitur-slideshow/
just have a birthday or something?
...Bill!
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 rubbish...you missed the point then .
the forest is god..the forest and the people are one..
.god, forest and people are all in harmony..it's called life...Â
god
not the cut and paste..leave out the body of the message
i pray to hear what you mean by your post
what appearances?
huh?
merle
On 8/25/2013 5:17 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
now tell me i'm delusional... as i struggling to cope with the lack of
awareness from some human beings
..not the old man with a long white beard syndrome? or some other equally
absurd notion?
Watched it. Yep, no god.
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.
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
bill...butting in..practical for who?...the mob at the top of the food chain
whilst they hold a gun to the herd?
there is the term noble savage... and let us not forget these noble savages
are living in the NOW
mike...i see..so no deity and no painting legs on snakes...pray what do you do
for fun?... merle
Thing is tho, a belief in a deity *is* the norm. And is also 'painting legs on
a snake' because it just isn't needed. Also, not sure how believing in a god is
fun. Each to their own, I
oscar wilde is my hero figure that out... merle
Tell that to Oscar Wilde!
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yes... but we do it anyway..so let's have fun doing it..merle
Merle,
The idea behind self-realisation to to stop the weaving and deconstruct. You
should know that..
Mike
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delusional...huh?...wait till the sun goes down on you!! merle
Most people of such delusional persuasion also use 'creation' as a noun.
KG
On 8/25/2013 1:01 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Your definition is meaningless though and certainly not in accord with how
most people
and yes creation KG..what a lovely word..coupled with create and creativity it
dragged us from that original swampy pond
remember when you were a fish and struggling to breathe the breath of life on
land...?...
how far back to you wish to travel..a single cell..is that then the so
will you watch it larry, and give me feed back?..merle
Sorry Merle. I did get it in another email.
Thank you
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
this is a beautiful documentary about beautiful people living in harmony with
each other
stands that the universe works perfectly well
without giving it imaginary fairy-stories as to how it works.
Mike
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mike..you said you had great respect for australian aborigines now you tell me
the rainbow snake is all crap..merle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vh6moD9ZOU
take time out to care...merle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRBMdS4t36c
which self?..merle
The creating and identifying of the ego as self is what creates suffering: the
First Noble Truth.
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tell me tell me... this culture is delusional...merle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mntq_zD54Ys
and yes creation KG..what a lovely word..coupled with create and creativity it
dragged us from that original swampy pond
remember when you were a fish and struggling to breathe the breath of life on
land...?...
how far back to you wish to travel..a single cell..is that then the so
i see..your a text book fanatic..lordi be...merle
Simply because your's is not the meaning of the phrase as it relates to Zen and
how I originally used it.
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i see..your a text book fanatic..lordi be... lighten up mike and let the
sunshine in...merle
yes mike..i know your meaning..however you refuse point blank to see mine..
why?..merle
Merle,
The meaning of 'painting legs on a snake' indicates the pointlessness of giving
doom wiki kklko ujji p ship.
Njiik
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Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2013 9:31:48 AM
bill... not yet..it's coming to a store near you next month...merle
Merle,
Did you just have a birthday or something?
...Bill!
.
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ah ha..now your experiencing the original buddha
of communication makes
me a text book fanatic. Where do you come up with these things?!!
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mike ... lighten up... where is your sense of humour?..merle
Case in point: I just typed in random
bill...they are in yahoo ... ..merle
Merle,
I was just wondering where you got all those emoticans you started using
lately...
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
bill... not yet..it's coming to a store near you next month...merle
Merle
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Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2013 2:31:44 AM
i bit of nonsense never hurt anyone... all seriousness can lead to fanaticism
and text book
near the end of the doc said, civilization was
nice but she missed the group sex the village engaged in every week or so.
Not advocating anything here, just wondering if our 'noble' values are really
'noble' or just practical?
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit
bell? At least address/finish a topic before
starting a new one. Or is that too conversation-nazi for you?
Mike
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okay..your turn..merle
My chosen subject is EMOTICONS!
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Â
 right!!!... so what's your chosen topic?...merle
Â
Mike
Well, that would depend on whether you wish to have a discussion and stick
. One old lady
interviewed near the end of the doc said, civilization was nice but she
missed the group sex the village engaged in every week or so.
Not advocating anything here, just wondering if our 'noble' values are
really 'noble' or just practical?
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Merle
because we crave (want, desire, whatever)
It doesn't matter where you live or whom you live with. We can always chose
freedom through 'want' reduction. I'm a victim to. No need to remind me.
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@...wrote:
**
bill...butting
try me..merle
Merle,
Anything you might be able to follow thru' on...
Mike
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was introduced to zen, via a Japanese form of Zen Buddhism.
To sum up, I believe zen is not in any way dependent upon Buddhism, Buddhist
teachings, dogmas, doctrine or practices.
...Bill!
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Â
 from what i gather you would
, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
from what i gather you would not have zen if you did not have
buddhism..correct me if i am incorrect..merle
Merle,
Yes. IMO zen is not an exclusive subset or sect of Buddhism.
Buddhism is a religion has does have many, many lists
!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
Â
 from what i gather you would not have zen if you did not have
buddhism..correct me if i am incorrect..merle
Â
Merle,
Yes. IMO zen is not an exclusive subset or sect of Buddhism.
Buddhism is a religion has does have
so what is american...?...merle
Chan is Chinese interpretation zen is Japanese. Tibean is Dali Lama?
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bill...still confused...so zen is chan...?..if you wish to experience buddha
nature directly you
interesting bill..your streaks ahead in consciousness..merle
Mike,
No and Yes...
The no part is that I experienced Buddha Nature on my own before encountering
zen. I'm sure we all have. When we were infants before our intellect was
developed enough to create the delusion of
i'm australian...estonian parents..came to sydney in 1949 as refugees..merle
I think we looking for an American buddhism. Want to be it?
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
so what is american...?...merle
Chan is Chinese
this is a beautiful documentary about beautiful people living in harmony with
each other and their environment... paradise lost where did our
civilisation go so wrong?. cheers merle
'http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/
people are Irish-American from NY a few generations
back. I was raised Catholic and left the minute no one was looking. I've been
looking for God all my life in the easiest spots I could find:)
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
i'm australian
yes please... merle
yes you ...merle
Do you mean me, Sir? Do you need my clarification? If so, let me just say it
was no big deal when it happened but I'll tell you if you want.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
clarification
mike..explain yourself please..
and KG not true...on a beautiful spring day one rejoices and gives thanks
that one has eyes to see and ears to hear and a tongue to speak..merle
And comfort is only sought when dis-eased.
KG
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cynical mike..tut tut..shame on you..merle
God is no different than a haemorrhoid cream. I like it!
Mike
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opinion) means 'before the encroachment of the
intellect and the rising of duality'
You can read more about what I think about this at:
http://www.billsmart.com/writing/zen/self/self.htm
...Bill!
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Â
 Bill...still
what is AYPsite.com? merle
I am very very impressed with how you lived your life. I found this, well, to
be frank, all too late. I knew about it, read about it, even tried it a few
times but I didn't get more interested until I was desperate.
Thanks,
Larry
PS I've sort of belonged to a
too much far too much intellectualisation..and too much blah blah blah...merle
Bill!,
I'd still be careful as to the distinction between acting on auto-pilot and
being completely awake as to what you are doing.
Mike
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mike excuse me...what's soul got to do with ego?..merle
Bill!,
Would you agree that you probably
meaning what? MIKE maybe just maybe you have not even arrived?...
filled with preconceived ideas and prejudices...
..dust yourself off
and try using the refresh on keyboard...
merle
Don't worry, Merle. It's not a completion - you'll catch up one day.
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so self is no self but the other..hence we need to refresh our ideas and
return to the garden of eden... the brazilian rainforest tribe eh?..merle
Merle,
You can read more about what I think about this at:
http://www.billsmart.com/writing/zen/self/self.htm
...Bill!
mike ..you have missed the boat...( the point)... watch the brazilian tribe
doc..then tell me there is no god...merle
Merle,
Just because belief in a god gives comfort it doesn't make it true.
Mike
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have you considered it as cruel?... usually those who have nothing to offer
resort to teasing..merle
Merle,
Just winding you up. You know it's a favourite pastime of mine : )
Mike
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suresh..it is illegal to hit a child in many countries... would you hit your
wife? try humour...he hit you first... so you hit back to get him to speak?..
i'd go to a doctor..maybe there is a medical condition..you have a computer..do
some searching on net... a hug and a cuddle and a tickle
meaning what bill?. clarification please...merle
If you beat you wife you must go by the rule of thumb...Bill!
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 suresh..it is illegal to hit a child in many  countries... would you hit
your wife? try
Merle
www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
clarification please...merle
I have. A few times, a few words. The bridge opened as a reaction to some
extreme things going on in my life. I just thought it was weird or funny at the
time. Still do.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:05 AM, pandabananasock pandabananas...@yahoo.com
wrote:
dear suresh...my heart goes out to you...
i too suffer as my son age 36 suffers from ocd, anxiety and has been diagnosed
with clinical depression..
it's not easy being the parent
blessings, prayers and love are sent your way
all the best
take care
with love merle
Dear Merle /
KG ..have you ever been in contact with an autistic kiddy?...merle
Perhaps you could buy the child a small parrot to care for and train...
KG
On 8/22/2013 10:19 AM, varam...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear sirs,
Today unfortunately I have beaten my younger child for not speaking. I become
very
yes you ...merle
Do you mean me, Sir? Do you need my clarification? If so, let me just say it
was no big deal when it happened but I'll tell you if you want.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
clarification please...merle
I have. A few
love this ..merle
...Bill!
Buddhists.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 hallo bill...so tell me why oh why is the classification referred to as zen
buddhism?... can you have zen without buddhist principles?... merle
Â
Merle,
As you should very well know by now I don't
, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
Â
meaning what bill?. clarification please...merle
Â
If you beat you wife you must go by the rule of thumb...Bill!
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 suresh..it is illegal to hit a child in many Ã
good one..thanks for sharing suresh..merle
THE URGENCY OF TRANSFORMATION - ECKHART TOLLE
When faced with a radical crisis, when the old way of being in the
world, of interacting with each other and with the realm of nature doesn’t
work anymore, when survival is threatened by seemingly
? What did I
do to deserve this? I just want it to go away!.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 have you been in pain bill..and thought it was judgemental delusion?...merle
Â
Merle,
I don't know how you got from what I said earlier
@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 bill...not why me...that's plain silly..why not you?...merle
Â
Merle,
I have been in pain before. When I am in pain I don't think of pain as a
judgmental delusion, I think of it as pain and judge it to be bad; and maybe
even think
for the new member..welcome aham... cheers merle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2XUTeoUsM
for aham...cheers merle
http://mro.org/zmm/teachings/daido/teisho61.php
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