[Zen] Which Holy Man was in the best shape?

2008-12-19 Thread fitness4u2163
Could Jesus Bench Press his own weight? Could Buddha run a lap around his cave? Could Moses swim the Red Sea? Could Mohammed hump a camel? Did Krishnamurti maintain less than 5% body fat? Was Mohatma Ghandhi capable of running a marathon? Which famous Holy Man was in the best shape?

Re: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread fitness4u2163
billsm...@... I agree that Joju certainly did directly address the question. Mojo Jojo? He used to be on the Powerpuff Girls! Really a great character. He knew how to turn a phrase! Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or

[Zen] Where is Chinese Chan Master?

2008-12-24 Thread fitness4u2163
What happened to that guy? He really made a lot of sense regarding CHI, and Bill has scared him off due to his constant Dharma Combat. We need year of peace in 2009. Someone must restrain Bill, he has become too powerful in the CHI which he does not believe in.

Re: [Zen] Where is Chinese Chan Master?

2008-12-25 Thread fitness4u2163
billsm...@... he had to form a coalition (now called the Yellow Shirts) with other groups. The other major political force is the vestiges of Thaksin’s old party (Thai Rac Thai) and are called the Red Shirts. Which shirt are you? Current Book

[Zen] Re: Merry Christmas

2008-12-27 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 a little Viagra or Cialis will help, I'm sure. Just call your doctor if you're sporting wood for longer that 4hrs. Thank you for your expert advice. I am glad that you have shared your insights as a willing receptacle for the woody, and have helped others release their frustrations.

Re: [Zen] Where is Chinese Chan Master?

2009-01-01 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu In Thailand, fried rice is no difference than flight lice. you make poriticrally incrorect rethnric jroke. flerry runfrunny. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups

Re: [Zen] Where is Chinese Chan Master?

2009-01-01 Thread fitness4u2163
billsm...@... In Thailand 'fried rice' is 'khao pat', and usually specifies another ingredient like 'chicken fried rice' (khao pat gai) or 'shrimp fried rice' (khao pat gung). Just 'plain fried rice' would be 'khao pat kai' (egg only). You sound like one of those college graduates we been

[Zen] Most Physically Fit Holy Man

2009-01-01 Thread fitness4u2163
Right now, Krishnamurti is leading the 25 Holy Men for the title of Most Physically Fit Holy Man. Anyone that remembers J. Krishnamurti will recall he was very thin and he always enjoyed walking, especially walking on the beach. However, Jesus was a carpenter and he was also strong enough to

[Zen] Re: Was Buddha The Most Enlightened???

2009-01-03 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 This question has no answer. Is it a Kohn? Is a KOHN a Jewish Koan?? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Zen] Re: Was Buddha The Most Enlightened???

2009-01-03 Thread fitness4u2163
billsm...@... When I spoke to groups a lot I used to say in my beginning remarks:'There's no such thing as a dumb question; there are only dumb people asking them.' You must have been very popular among the Republicans. Current Book Discussion: any Zen

[Zen] Re: Was Buddha The Most Enlightened???

2009-01-03 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 now that I think of it, maybe there is an answer, I think it bears some discussion. There are those who believe they surpassed Buddha. Did they? On the other hand, shouldn't Buddha be the starting point? If the practice of Buddhism has evolved over the past 1500 years, then it would

[Zen] The Reason For God

2009-01-04 Thread fitness4u2163
Has anyone read that book? It is by Tim Keller, and I have read most of it and I found it to be very interesting. I would like to read it with others in order to get some feedback a chapter at a time. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-05 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 it looks like it is written by a pastor trying to justify Christianity to skeptics. I don't think I'd be too interested in that. Is this the case, or what is it about? What have you gotten out of it so far? I have found it to be very spiritually uplifting. It connects the Bible to

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-05 Thread fitness4u2163
Vince There is way to much ambiguity for me. So instead you prefer zen buddhism, where every koan is open to interpretation and most of it is totally undefined and completely subjective depending on who the teacher is. HO HO HO Current Book Discussion:

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-06 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu The book you mention seems to advocate blind following. What part of my description mentioned blind following? I don't even go to church. I found the discussion to be stimulating and thoughtful. How did you interpret that to mean blind following? It is very seldom hard to probe

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-08 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 Your annoyance is very telling! Someone so broad in his intelligence should have found a way to tame his temper by now. You wouldn't talk like that to Dogen. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-08 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830I believe the answer is somewhere in the middle. In a non- dualistic existence that can only be experienced through strict adherence to a certain belief system along with deep meditation. What you believe is duality and your solution is Christianity or Judaism or some other strict

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-08 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 If you can break your attachment to this dualism and dissolve your Ego, you can get in touch with your True Self. Imaginary battle is just a substitute for the battle between good and evil. You are so totally twisted with your dualisms and cliche' phrases that you have no clue what you

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-09 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 I know it may sound like I don't have a clue what I'm talking about, but I know what I believe and I have found what I am looking for. Words that ring hollow. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading!

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-09 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu Your statement is always great and sweet. It feels like a carrot. Al is carrying a stick. Are you two in the same performance in two different characters? All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-10 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu Since we all have the same Buddha mind, everything we do is justified. That's what I don't agree with, as I see that there are opposing forces (good evil?) which are at work every day. Open the newspaper and there are people being killed and otherwise assaulted and those killers

[Zen] Re: Al's Salvation

2009-01-10 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 I am still fairly new to this group, compared to many others. I am always willing to post what I believe, and expose my ignorance, all for the sake of discussion. no excuses Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-10 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 Zen Master Al strikes again! I usually make my best points when I don't intend to, and people often disregard those things that I feel are the most important. I am not sure if that even qualifies as idiot savant. Current Book Discussion: any

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-12 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu I can agree with all you say except for your statement that nothing needs to be justified. Then, kiling, lying, womanizing, drinking... do not need to be justified. They are 'just this'. I think that is New Age Zen where everything is OK. I recall reading an old zen book that

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-13 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu Is this a Buddhism? Of course, there is a place for playboys in this world, but not in a monastry, I think. If you have no standards (no line in the sand), then you can justify anything. That is what is going on in America today. It is call immorality.

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-13 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 at least tell me where I can find that zen is a moral system. Please post a list of the zen books you have read, the zen masters that you have studied with, and the zen temples that you have practiced at. Current Book Discussion: any Zen

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-13 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 I have read the Zen forum. Gee. That would probably result in an automatic disqualification if you were applying to be a monk at any reputable zen temple. I hope that I have not contributed anything to your mis-education. Please forgive me.

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu -  A monk licks maggots on a wound of a dog, for fear of hurting the maggots and the dog That's not funny, that's sick. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
billsm...@... OUCH! What if you stick a porcupine in your narrow hole? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
cid830 So, what were your Zen qualifications again? You read some books? You visited some temples? Reading zen books was always a great pleasure for me. There are lots of great zen books, the older ones seem to be the best, IMHO, though I have not been reading a lot of them in the past ten

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
Jue Miao Jing Ming -In our school, karma is just a label for any energy that causes Good or bad are just human interpretations of the result after the fact. It is not a believe system or a reward system. Just simple cause and effect in Chi terms. I can relate to that, because

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
Edgar Owen Anthony is anticipating what will happen if he runs into a killer or how he will react while starving, I see Bill's point as telling him the anticipation is the problem. The zen training will allow him to react to the situation at hand from his Buddha Nature. That is kind of

[Zen] Re: The Reason For God

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu There are strict rules governing material world, down to subatomic particles. I tend to believe the same applies to the spiritual world. It is not convincing that a personal god can set the rules. Hell Yeah! And what we have in most zen groups is a bunch of half- baked

[Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-15 Thread fitness4u2163
If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-16 Thread fitness4u2163
Edgar Owen edgaro...@... There is no such Yahoo requirement. I run several groups and have never done this 'roll call'. Are you a member of the Yahoo Power User group? This is for moderators who have groups that total more than 25,000 members. We answer to a higher standard.

[Zen] Re: ROLL CALL

2009-01-16 Thread fitness4u2163
Ann Nelson as to dead or alive, not sure, but sitting regardless Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come. Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody tuesday. Man, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long. I am the eggman, they are the eggmen. I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-18 Thread fitness4u2163
Edgar Owen May I ask which groups you run that total 25,000 members? Just curious, certainly not this one. ironically not the poweruser group you link to The poweruser group is run by Yahoo, and it is by invitation of Yahoo. Only Yahoo posts messages there. Apparently there is a lot that you

[Zen] Toxicity

2009-01-18 Thread fitness4u2163
Are we living in a toxic society? I watch TV, it is a non-stop bombardment of commercials for Viagra, Encyte, Extenze, etc. MAKE IT BIGGER, LONGER, HARDER! Women have commercials for the thing they can put on the tip of their finger (sold by Trojan condom company). Then there are the non-stop

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-19 Thread fitness4u2163
Mayka This is not way to talk to people particularly if you are the moderator of spiritual or religious group from whatever tradition that group is. This way of doing is harmful to yourself and everyone else. Are you having your period? Current Book

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-19 Thread fitness4u2163
Edgar Owen Well I do know that 8 doesn't equal 25,000. Other than that I know nothing for sure! :-) Trust me on the rest. Keep clenching. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo!

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-19 Thread fitness4u2163
fitness4u2163 Are you having your period? Sorry for being so crude. I should not post what I am thinking. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-21 Thread fitness4u2163
Mayka I see no wrong of posting what is in your mind, what are you feeling or what is really in you... THANKS! Words carry in them energy positive or negative. Only one word can heal or destroy. HO HO HO Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that

Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL

2009-01-21 Thread fitness4u2163
Edgar Owen May I ask which groups you run that total 25,000 members? Just curious, certainly not this one. OK, I wanted to keep things clean, but here is the list of the groups that I run with 25K or more each. I post this list at the risk of getting the groups shut down, since you cannot

[Zen] Moderators Wanted?

2009-01-22 Thread fitness4u2163
I have no interest in participating in this group this year, so I would like to find someone who can handle the moderator duties. This entails deleting spam, banning spammers, and reading the emails in order to take people off moderated status if they are halfway normal and put people back on

Re: [Zen] Moderators Wanted?

2009-01-22 Thread fitness4u2163
Edgar Owen I'd be happy to moderate the group if you wish. I already moderate a number of science oriented groups so am familiar with what is required, and it would be just a little extra effort. Dear Edgar, thanks for your interest. You are a very nice person, and I enjoy reading your

Re: [Zen] Moderators Wanted?

2009-01-23 Thread fitness4u2163
Anthony Wu Correction: Confucius should read O.J.Simpson. OJ Simpson can read Confucius, but not the other way around. Confucius is dead and OJ's book never got published. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are

[Zen] Re: Signing Off

2011-05-30 Thread fitness4u2163
What a lame-a*s poser. This reminds me of so many other d*ckw*ds that have faked it for a couple of months and then bailed out as if they were Greta Garbo taking that last backwards glance at the cameras. Goodbye, chief, don't let the door hit you on the back of your a*s on the way out!!